Aug. 11, 2026

Richard Gage on 9/11: Building 7, Evidence and the Turning the Tide Conference

Richard Gage on 9/11: Building 7, Evidence and the Turning the Tide Conference
Richard Gage on 9/11: Building 7, Evidence and the Turning the Tide Conference
America Unplugged Radio
Richard Gage on 9/11: Building 7, Evidence and the Turning the Tide Conference

Architect Richard Gage talks with America Unplugged about the upcoming Turning the Tide 9/11 conference, the 25th anniversary of 9/11, and the evidence he argues points to controlled demolition of the World Trade Center buildings, including Building 7.

The episode covers eyewitness accounts, scientific studies cited by Gage, high-profile speakers and films, and how listeners can attend or stream the event and follow related legal and investigative efforts.

00:02 - Intro & Opening

00:22 - Guest Introduction: Richard Gage

00:57 - Richard Gage: Greetings & Setup

01:02 - Closing Remarks & Links

01:03 - Show End & Sign-off

01:26 - Presentation Setup / Slide Display

02:55 - Conference Dates & Schedule

03:16 - Footage & BBC Report on WTC

04:28 - Eyewitness Accounts & Molten Metal

05:11 - 9/11 Commission Critique & Questions

06:09 - Turning the Tide Conference — Speakers

11:02 - Venue, Tickets & ’Responders’ Film Premiere

13:24 - Discovery of WTC Building 7 Collapse

15:27 - Official Narrative & NIST Explanation

19:01 - Free-Fall Evidence & Structural Resistance

20:08 - Witnesses Describing Explosions

24:43 - Suspicious Deaths & Need for Real Investigation

25:51 - Engineers’ Petition & Calls for New Inquiry

26:38 - University of Alaska (Hulsey) Study

28:52 - FEMA Metallurgical Findings — Molten Iron

30:33 - Nanothermite Evidence in WTC Dust

33:30 - ’Crime Scene to Courtroom’ Film Series

36:06 - Twin Towers Evidence: Ejected Steel & Smoke

46:50 - Missing Concrete & Pulverization

51:06 - Audience Q&A, Chat & Speculation

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And welcome to America Unplugged. I'm Don Jeffries.

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As you know, Billy Ray Valentine is on the road. I know what he's seeking,

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the Fountain of Youth or whatever he's doing. He's having lunch with Maryam Mondami.

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We're not sure what he's doing. Tony Harber is having a little, uh, difficulty with

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his, uh, computer, so he may be jumping in and out. And,

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uh, we have a special guest today. Richard Gage should be known to all of

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you. I had the pleasure of meeting him in New York City a few years

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back, and then last year at the Turning the Tide conference in Washington, DC.

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You must— most everybody knows him as the founder of what was once the biggest

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group, founder and CEO of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

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He's been away from that group for some 5 years now, and he has his

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own group, Richard Gage 9/11. The Turning the Tide conference

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has become a really big deal. They had some really big names there last year.

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So he's going to talk about that and give his presentation, which people have probably

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seen before and is just full of information. Richard, thanks so much for coming

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on America Unplugged. Awesome to be here with you, Jeff— Jeffrey—

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Don. And Tony too,

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and Billy Ray when he, when he arrives. Uh, great to connect with you guys.

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So I just, you know, go ahead and, uh, if you talk

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about what you want to talk about, talk about the conference is going to be

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in New York this year, and then whatever you're, uh, you feel free to,

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uh, it looks like you've already got a slide up, so I can put that

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slide up whenever you want if you're not able to do it. Oh, uh,

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go ahead. I will, we'll do just that. Okay, there you go.

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And yeah, oh, I see you're doing live

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on the, on the screen. Yeah, it's pretty exciting. We've got, um,

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an opportunity to gather, uh, several— well,

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2 or 3 dozen excellent speakers

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in the 9/11 Truth Movement this year. Uh, it's— we're,

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we're growing exponentially, like, you know,

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in the last year or so. We had at Washington,

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D.C. Senator Ron Johnson come to the

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9/11 Truth Conference for the first time ever. You guys, this is incredible.

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And I've been giving this presentation for, uh, 20 years.

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Um, the, uh, that is to say,

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when, when we started Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. And one

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of my favorites, Dennis Kucinich, who was there, who I was very, you know,

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honored to meet. And you were gonna have Tucker Carlson there, but this— it happened

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the day after the Charlie Kirk shooting, and he kind of shied away from public

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events. Well, shied away— he was devastated by the murder,

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ritual false flag murder of Charlie Kirk.

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So yes, he didn't come, but he says he's going to come this

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year. This is the 25th anniversary of 9/11, and as

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I was mentioning, 20 years, uh, with Architects and Engineers for 9/11

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Truth. Now Gail and I are on our own at Richard Gage 9/11

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and working with a number of other groups, uh, to bring

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this conference together, and we're pretty excited about it.

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Um, this is September 10th, 11th, 12th, and 13th—

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4 days of speakers. Uh, this is incredible.

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Let's see who they are. I'll play this, uh, for you.

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So if you look at the film of the North Tower collapsing,

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you can see all the explosions in the controlled demolition

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of that building happening in front of your very eyes.

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That was the BBC, and on in real time

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on television telling you that Building 7 had already fallen

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when it hadn't fallen yet. If it was true that 2 planes brought

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down 3 buildings in a completely unprecedented way,

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then that should have caused us to rethink the way we build

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these buildings. It didn't. If 100,000 tons

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of structural steel is found that far

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outside of the perimeter, What's there

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to crush the building? Not one, not two, but 3

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different peer-reviewed scientific studies have concluded there was informed

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trading before 9/11. We have a clear right

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and an obligation to search for answers to the

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fundamental question about the planning of 9/11, its execution,

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the physical effects, the structural consequences when the

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planes hit the World Trade Center.

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I felt this— I call it an incredible force of

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wind, of something coming at you.

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You either gotta move or you will die. And on the side of

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the U-Haul truck had a mural,

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had the Twin Towers on the side and

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a plane going into the Twin Towers. Further down

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into that pile I got, the more I could make out what looked

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like from a science fiction movie, molten lava. Why was crucial

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evidence of melted structural steel suppressed

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and not even considered, or worse yet, allowed to be

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carted off and destroyed?

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The 9/11 Commission did not look into at all how the towers came

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down. In my work with the anthrax letters, they would cite

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experts or, you know, administration official, and they would

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never give you the name. And when they don't give you the name, you know

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they're giving you the narrative. How come 4 airplanes,

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4 commercial airplanes, could be hijacked in a period of 90-something

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minutes and nothing happened?

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TurningTheTide911.org. We want everybody there

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if you're in the area or you can fly there. We need

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to get you there. We're going to have, as you saw, uh, Bret Weinstein.

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Uh, we're, we're going to have, um,

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uh, Jimmy Dore live.

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Roger, are you gonna have Roger Waters there? Roger Waters from

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Pink Floyd. Remember him? Did you grow up with him, Don? Sure,

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absolutely. Wow. Yeah, he's come out in favor

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of a new 9/11 investigation supporting the efforts

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of 9/11 family member Matt Campbell, whose brother Jeff

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was murdered in the North Tower.

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And, uh, they, they have a case in the Supreme Court

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that's going to change precedent. Uh, it, it almost has no other

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option, so it's going to go huge force in the 9/11 truth

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movement, uh, for just justice on behalf of

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all the 9/11 family members. Uh, we're gonna have James

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Corbett, uh, there also. Brett Weinstein of

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the Dark Horse Podcast, you saw. Uh, Dennis Kucinich,

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who has been coming out of the closet vociferously,

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as you heard. Um, and it's incredible. Mary Holland,

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Uh, myself, I'll be telling you about the World Trade Center evidence,

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which we're going to talk about today also. It's pretty exciting.

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Mick Harrison and Barbara Honiger of the Lawyers

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Committee for 9/11 Inquiry. Barbara, of course, is the creator

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of Behind the Smoke Curtain, the story of what happened at the Pentagon in

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her view. Nils Harreit, who wrote the paper Nanothermite

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Uh, what active thermitic materials in the World Trade Center

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dust. And he will, uh,

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be there. Chris Gioia, a former fire commissioner

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and, and chief,

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uh, in a New York area town, uh, he will be there.

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He lost several of his friends, uh, in the, uh,

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the, the, the, the collapse of the Twin Towers, a destruction of

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those towers. Mark Crispin Miller, uh, will be there.

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Bobby— Bob McIlvaine, whose son Bobby was killed also

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in the, in the lobby of the North Tower,

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I believe it was. And just an

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awesome array of people, including, uh,

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psychologist Robert Griffin, an array of first responders and,

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and, and Uh,

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uh, and New York Fire Department and

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FDNY, uh, folks. Eric Loyer will be

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there, the founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Richard Grove, forensic historian,

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will be talking about the financial manipulations and profits

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going on as a result of 9/11. Uh,

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so yeah, this is one you just don't want to miss.

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And yes, we will be live streaming it as well.

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So make sure you, you take advantage of,

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of that effort. We started last year in Washington, D.C., as you mentioned,

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Don, uh, with Dana Rohrabacher, uh, Dennis Kucinich,

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and Kurt Weldon. Uh, when have we had congressmen and

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former congressmen together, uh,

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demanding a new 9/11 investigation? This is huge

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in the 9/11 truth movement. So it, it, uh,

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all happens, uh, from Thursday,

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uh, to Sunday, September 10th to the

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13th. Uh, Thursday, of course, is the first

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anniversary of Charlie Kirk's murder, so we'll have some special remembrances

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and evidence, probably by James Lee.

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Uh-oh, James Lee's good. Yeah, to be there. Yeah, he's dug in deep

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where several false flags like Gaza,

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uh, like, um, COVID will be covered.

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Merrill Nass, Dr. Merrill Nass will be covering the

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anthrax as well as COVID. Um, we've,

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we've got it all covered just about. It's pretty,

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uh, pretty darn exciting, I'll say. Yeah, boy, what a— that's congratulations.

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That's some— those are some big names. Oh, thanks. And we can get,

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um, you can get Saturday night tickets,

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$75 only. Uh, that's the big night with, um,

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Jimmy Dore and others. And, uh, $150 for

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the whole 4-day event. You can stay with us at the hotel.

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Uh, there's, there's indications here somewhere about

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where you can stay. This is the venue, um,

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and, uh, it's a very, very exciting,

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uh, theater for us, uh, to be in.

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600 seats, we're gonna fill them all, Don, uh,

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with, with, uh, your audience's help if you get the word out.

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The theatrical premiere of the Responders movie will be

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played. Uh, it's a, it's a very exciting

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movie with first responders and, and firefighters

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talking about, and police, uh, talking about

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their experiences of explosions, uh, their demand

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for a new investigation. Uh, it's, it's, um,

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an unbelievable opportunity. So that's what I wanted to share with

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you. Well, fantastic. So, uh, you know, we're certainly,

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uh— Ashley, if you're out there, uh, you're welcome to come back in. I didn't,

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you know, need me to scare you off. I saw you were in here briefly.

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She was, uh, She may be taking Billy Ray's place today. I'm sure she

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probably has some questions for you. But, okay, um, there are some— my friend

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from Canada, RB Ham, I, I think if he said right, he's going to be

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in some kind of panel there. And he was one of the part of the

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Canadian, uh— oh no, he's not. Yeah,

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or yeah, he said he remembers, I guess, when you were up in Saskatoon or

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something. But he's, uh, he was part of the Canadian truckers convoy, if you remember,

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and they, uh, they punished him. He's still trying to raise money for

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his $50,000, uh, Dollar. So, so this is—

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how did you— I mean, how do you get somebody like— you're obviously becoming really

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big. Oh, thanks. Well, big fish in a small pond,

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I guess. Well, yeah, well, but you're, you know, the fact you can— I was

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impressed last year when you had Dennis Kucinich, again, one of my all-time heroes.

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And, um, but, you know, and Kurt Weldon and Dana Rohrabacher,

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who came out of nowhere. I, I never knew he would, you know. Are these

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people— do you think they're just finally finding the courage to to talk about it?

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Because I don't remember them talking about it in Congress. Um,

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yeah, and some people are just not aware.

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You know, it took me 5 years. I mean, I was, uh,

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I swallowed the official narrative hook, line, and sinker,

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uh, Don. Uh, it, it was— I wanted to go

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into Afghanistan and Iraq and get those bastards who did this

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to us. Um, but, uh, what happened for me is On,

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um, I was home on my way back from a construction

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observation meeting in, in Lafayette, California,

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where I worked for an architecture firm in Walnut Creek.

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And I heard David Ray Griffin on the radio,

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Bonnie Faulkner's program on Guns and Butter,

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Pacifica Radio. And I'm— I was just shocked, uh,

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to hear that, uh, you know, a 3rd building came down.

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Most people don't even know that a third building, uh,

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came down. I mean, most architects and engineers know nothing

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about the third worst structural failure in modern history.

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And I'm going, what are you talking about? He's talking about the towers

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and how they explosively, uh, blew up instead

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of collapsed, and molten metal and witnesses of

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explosions. This is incredible. So I said— I started

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at the beginning. I said, I got to find out if this is true because

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I'd never heard of any of this. 5 years in, and yeah,

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there's a Building 7. I didn't even know it was 47

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stories, easily the tallest building in most of our states, about a

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football field away from the Twin Towers. And here

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it is, just standing just fine, uh, when the— after the Twin

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Towers came down. There was some minimal damage to it, uh, from,

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uh, some structural elements that striked

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it, struck it from the North Tower.

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And, uh, but then this happens, uh, as you can see at

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5:20, 7 hours later, the East Penthouse collapses in

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the upper left corner. And then the entire building,

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after 6 seconds, it does this straight down,

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uniformly, symmetrically into its own footprint.

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Now, most— I didn't see this for 5 years.

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That means it wasn't on television. That means the American Institute of Architects

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and Engineers, of which I'm one of like 90,000

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members, didn't get one bulletin on this.

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The 3rd worst structural failure in modern history should

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have been the most studied failure ever because no plane hit this building,

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right? So here's the official narrative, Don.

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What we found was that uncontrolled building fires caused

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an extraordinary event. The collapse of World Trade

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Center 7 was primarily due to fire. Fires? Well, we got to look

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at those fires. These are the largest fires that we have any

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photographic or video evidence of in the building.

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They're few, they're relatively small, and they're scattered

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throughout the building. And that is

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the cause of this collapse according

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to our government and media. And they

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want us to believe, uh, that those fires on

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floor 12 and 13 specifically caused a chain of collapse,

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a chain of events that caused the collapse of this building. But we never lost

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a steel frame fire protected structure like ever in,

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in the history of these of these buildings, and not since 9/11

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either, when we've had much larger, longer-lasting,

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and hotter fires in these buildings. So we've got to

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get to the bottom of, of what's going on here and

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find out what really might have brought it down, right? Well, we could take a

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guess. If you look at controlled demolitions on the left,

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Building 7 on the right, is there any similarity? Yeah, a little

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bit. Is there enough similarity to warrant an investigation into the possible

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use of explosives, especially since the fire,

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the official cause of this building's collapse, has never in history brought

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down a steel frame fire-protected skyscraper

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ever? It's not happened. So we're going to just see then

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if we have any of the features of controlled demolition.

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It turns out we have them all. It's beginning with sudden onset of destruction.

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Listen to Dan Rather narrate his intuition about

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how this building came down. What you're seeing are high shots.

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Now here we're going to show you a videotape of the collapse itself. Describe that.

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Now we go to videotape the collapse of this building.

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It's amazing. Amazing, incredible,

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pick your word. For the 3rd time today,

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it's reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen too much

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on television before when a building was deliberately destroyed by

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well-placed dynamite to knock it down. What,

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Dan, did you say deliberately destroyed by well-placed

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dynamite to knock it down? Well, that's what we all would

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think looking at this. In fact, we've never heard him say that

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again. We've never even seen Building 7 on mainstream media,

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with 2 exceptions. So yeah, it's been swept under

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the rug. So do we have feature number 2, a straight-down symmetrical progression?

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Let's look from West Street. Yeah,

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pretty straight down, pretty symmetrical. Let's talk about how you achieve

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that. You have to take out all the core columns at once

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within a split second of each other, followed about a second later by the perimeter

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columns, and then repeat that synchronistically timed floor by floor.

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Do these fires have that capability? Uh,

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not gonna be happening. No. If a building's damaged on one side,

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it's gonna fall to that side, right? That's what

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we would expect. Yeah. In the northeast corner, and this says that

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fire was blazing. That's what we would have expected.

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So how fast does it come down? You know, also, this is fascinating.

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David Chandler, physics teacher, shows us that it comes down at free fall

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acceleration. Wait a minute, that's as fast as a bowling ball

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falling out of the sky. How does the— the

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bowling ball has no resistance, right? This building had 40,000

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tons of structural steel in it. Uh, to keep

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it from going anywhere. Uh, and not one of those

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columns gave any resistance

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for that period of free fall. That's incredible.

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Well, where did they go all of a sudden and so

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uniformly that we— there's 82 of them

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altogether, and man, they're They're,

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uh, they're just disappeared. Did these fires take

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them all out? Um, no, not gonna happen.

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What could have? Well, explosions could have. Yeah, we— let's

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look at a few of these witnesses. This one, Daryl, a medical student,

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which all of these witnesses NIST denies.

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We were watching the building actually because it was on fire. The, uh, the bottom

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floors of the building were on fire. And, uh, you know, we heard this,

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this sound that sounded like a clap of thunder. Turned around, we were shocked to

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see that the building was, uh, uh, well, it looked like there was

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a shockwave ripping through the building and the windows

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all, uh, busted out. Then, you know, horrifying. Then,

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uh, you know, about a second later, the bottom floor caves out and,

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uh, the building followed after that. And the building followed after that.

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That's very important set of timing events.

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What about Kevin McPadden, former Air Force medic?

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You heard explosions, like,

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boom. It's like a distinct sound. It's not

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like when the compression, like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,

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like floors that were dropping and collapsing. This was boom,

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and like you felt a rumble in the ground, like almost like you

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wanted to grab onto something. So to me, I knew that was an explosion.

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There was no doubt in my mind. And, uh,

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what do we— what did, uh, Bill Rosati see?

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I was standing like 2 blocks away and all of a sudden I just seen

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a big flash, and then I seen the building coming down, and I just seen

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people just running everywhere, chaotic-like.

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Okay, that's very helpful. A flash. And what about Captain

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Richard Patterson of the FDNY?

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1-7 let go as well and was a series

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of concussive explosions.

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And Patrick Dillon, first responder. I remember feeling that like it

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was like freight trains underneath the earth, shaking the earth,

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even shaking me. That's when we all saw Building

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7 crumple in the middle, like Uh,

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way up at the top. It buckled. It buckled and

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then dropped. Very helpful. And Richard Rotanz,

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Deputy Director of New York's Office of Emergency Management,

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who worked in the building— then he had to go into that building

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to assess it. You could hear the building creak

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above us. You could hear things fall. You could hear the fire burning. You could

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see columns just hanging. From the upper floors, gaping holes

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in the floors up above us. There was an elevator car that was

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blown out of its shaft and was down the hall. What?

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An elevator car blown out of its shaft down the hall?

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Did fires do that? He clarified later it was like 30 to 40

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feet down the hall. That's incredible.

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Um, these are clearly evidence of big

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explosions, explosions which are corroborated by Barry Jennings,

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for instance, who along with Michael Hess was trying

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to get down from the 23rd floor where Giuliani

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had his bunker to manage an emergency

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like this. Uh, and they— this is— they

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were instructed to get out. So this is their experience on the

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way down. When we got to the 8th floor, I started

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walking to one side of the building That side of the building was gone.

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The first explosion I heard when I was on the stairwell landing,

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when we made it down to the 6th floor. Then we made it back to

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the 8th floor, I heard some more explosions. What's the sound like?

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A boom, like, like an explosion.

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More than one? Yes. We started walking down the stairs,

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we made it to the 8th floor, big explosion blew us back into the

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8th floor. When we get outside Police officer comes to me

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and says, you have to run, we have more information of bombs, so you have

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to run. What information of bombs? Bombs like

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this heard in the late morning of 9/11 in the vicinity of Building 7?

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Yeah, here's one of the guys. You can tell you I'm okay. All right,

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here, hold on. You want to call your mother or something?

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Don't worry about me. 7's exploded.

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Wow. Well, NIST says, oh, those are just

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sounds of a building falling down. Well, there's no building falling down in

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the late morning of 9/11. Yeah, uh, there are plenty of other witnesses

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of explosions, but we'll get into those at the conference.

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Are you gonna— are you gonna talk about that? Because Barry Jennings was one of

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the mysterious deaths, and I believe Joe Enco was too, wasn't he?

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Uh, yes, he— here, well, let's listen to what Joe Enco

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Has to say, and then we'll talk about his untimely demise.

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Danny Joenko is the expert on this in Europe.

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What did he say?

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Yes, he was, um,

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killed when his car sped, I don't

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know what speed, it hit a tree, uh, that which was

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like very suspicious. Michael Hastings

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and Barry Jennings also died before that. And, uh,

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yeah, Dylan Avery told me that he hired a private

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eye to try to find his family or something. The private eye resigned after

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a couple days and said never call me again. Whatever that means. And that was

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the day before the final NIST report came out.

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So we, we need a real investigation

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here to find out what happened. We have 24 now,

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about 2, 3 dozen now, structural engineers demanding a new investigation,

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signed on to the petition at ae911truth.org.

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And that is, uh,

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one of those is Kamal Obaid, structural engineer. A localized

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failure in a steel frame building like World Trade Center 7 cannot

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cause a catastrophic collapse like a house of cards without a

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simultaneous and patterned loss of several of its columns

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at key locations within the building. Are fires

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going to be doing that? No, not today,

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uh, not any day. Professor Leroy Hulsey, one of the top forensic

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structural engineers in the country, caught wind of this and said,

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well, let's look at this. We've got to find out if our existing

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skyscrapers are vulnerable to collapse

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at free fall by small fires. So he

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did quite the study at the University of Alaska in Fairbanks,

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competing 2 software programs against each

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other, which corroborated each other's work that,

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um, this never happened. In fact,

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if this building was going to come down due to fires,

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it wouldn't look like this. Um, the building would have tipped over,

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which is intuitive, right? On the left is their final model. They said, what do

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we have to do to get this building to fall like it did in the

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video in the middle? Uh, and they

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had to take out all the core columns, followed about a second later by

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the perimeter columns, synchronistically timed floor by floor. And then, by God, yes,

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it looks like a controlled demolition. Uh, NIST did

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a computer model on the right, the finite element analysis

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that they were tasked to do by Congress but failed miserably because it

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was a cover-up. They tried to get it to fall like the middle,

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but it stops after 2 seconds, begins to crumple like a beer can and

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tip over. So they can't even, after 7

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years, try to succeed in getting their

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model to prove their theory,

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which it disproves actually, as you can see.

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So NIST— I mean, the Alaska

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found that fire didn't cause a collapse of this building. The temperatures

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were not high enough to cause the weakening of the steel framing. Thermal expansion

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did not result in a loss of support for the beams and the girders.

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The collapse of this building was a global failure involving what?

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The near simultaneous failure of all the columns in

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the building, not a progressive collapse as claimed

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by NIST. Completely pulled the rug out from underneath the

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NIST report. And so that leaves the question, what brought

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this building down, uh, and what other evidence

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do we have? Because the University of Alaska didn't go

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here. They're structural engineers. They, they determined what

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didn't bring it down. Uh, they don't know what the mechanism was,

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but we can get a view as we look at the evidence of extreme heat

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provided to us not by conspiracy theorists but

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by the Federal Emergency Management Association,

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FEMA. In their appendix, they document what

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happened to the steel in this metallurgical examination. In the Building

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Performance Assessment Team report in May of 2002, what do they

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find? Never before observed eutectic reactions,

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intergranular melting capable of turning a solid

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steel girder into Swiss cheese like you see

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here in this piece of World Trade Center 7 steel.

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Silver dollar-sized holes. Guess what? Fire doesn't do

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this to steel. We're— it takes 3,000

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degrees to melt steel. Fahrenheit. We're talking

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much, much hotter temperatures here,

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thinning these beams from the World Trade Center

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Twin Towers to razor sharpness. Rapid oxidation,

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sulfidation, they say. Liquid iron— what's

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that? Molten iron. Sulfur formed during

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this hot corrosion attack. On the steel.

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Wow. Well, what caused this? What caused this?

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These— is this extreme heat, which we can see in melted iron

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and steel what their temp— temperature is

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by their color? We're exceeding 2,500

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degrees here due to the yellow and even

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white-hot temperatures, much hotter than that. Well,

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we look for— that's all evidence of ignited incendiaries.

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Do we have any evidence of unignited incendiaries in

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the World Trade Center dust? Yeah, a team

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of 8 international scientists led by Niels Harreit and Stephen Jones,

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um, they are sent independently collected samples,

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7 of them, and they analyze them. They find

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these red-gray chips. I thought they were paint, but they are attracted

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to a magnet, which means that what? They have a high iron content.

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So they do analysis. They get curious and do X-ray

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energy dispersive spectroscopy and find aluminum and

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iron and even manganese, which is added

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to thermite to become thermate. So we have this signature of thermite

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in the paint chips in the World Trade Center dust.

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What's it doing there? They get even more curious,

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zoomed in 50,000 times with an electron

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microscope, and they find these nano-sized particles

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of iron oxide crystals and aluminum platelets.

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Again, of course, the ingredients, the signature of thermite.

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This is at the nanoscale. There's 1,000 times smaller than

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the diameter of a human hair. Well, my gosh,

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this is incredible. What have we— what have they uncovered? Active unreacted

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thermitic material incorporating nanotechnology,

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highly energetic and pyrotechnic or explosive materials. All the

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stamp— the samples they studied have these. They documented

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this in the peer-reviewed paper, the Bentham Open Chemical Physics Journal. Well,

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gosh. Um, it's never been contested

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with another peer-reviewed paper. That's what— how

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you can test somebody's conspiracy theory.

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You just prove them. It hasn't been done.

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So we have all the key characteristic features of controlled demolition and

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some very uncharacteristic features here too, with the use of incendiaries,

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uh, which points toward clearly,

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unequivocally, dispositively proof

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of controlled demolition. A body of proof that's

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convinced 3,600 architects and engineers to

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demand a new investigation. And you can see

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those— all this evidence and these engineers on

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our website, richardgage911.org, and on ae911.org,

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the original website. And so we have,

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uh, many of them appearing in the film

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series ongoing. Episode 6 was just released.

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Here's an— a quick peek into the

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series.

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No matter how improbable the conclusion

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may appear, when you've eliminated the impossible, whatever remains,

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however improbable, must be the truth.

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We're bringing alive in the film the 60 exhibits of the 9/11

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WTC evidence contained in the Lawyers Committee grand jury

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petition that have already been submitted to the U.S. Attorney in Manhattan

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to present to a special criminal jury. This historic investigation

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is ongoing, and there's a role for you in it.

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Yes, you can help us bring the real perpetrators to justice.

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Through this film series, we're bringing together 2 dozen

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experts in their fields. They ignored any scenario involving incendiaries.

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Demolition work— you're going to set charges on

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each floor. In other words, all of the interior columns over 8

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stories came down, basically lost

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it once. I could make out what looked

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like from a science fiction movie, molten lava.

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Okay. And he paused and said,

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that'll be coming down around 5 o'clock. We'll be filming these

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evidence presentations not only for our filings with the

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grand jury, also presentations to each of you.

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We're inviting you to serve as virtual grand jury during

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each episode,

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and we encourage everybody to catch up with the episodes

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at 911c2c.org.

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911, letter C, number 2.

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Letterc.org. And also you can see at

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richardgage911.org. So, uh,

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don't— and you can co-produce the film too, uh, for,

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for, um, uh, any amount. And up

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at $500, we'll make you an executive producer, put you on the credits,

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and be very grateful, uh, to you for bringing this to

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the grand jury in New York and elsewhere.

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Uh, and John, if we have the, uh,

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evidence for controlled demolition of Building 7, do you think we ought to look

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at the Twin Towers also? Of course.

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Okay, you talked me into it.

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We have, uh, look at them. I mean, uh,

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upward outward arching streamers, a geometry

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of fireworks. Freely flying structural steel sections

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weighing 4 to 8 tons ejected laterally

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at 80 miles an hour, clocked by physicists,

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landing up to 600 feet in every direction.

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This is not a collapse. This is something else.

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What are they trailing, by the way, these structural steel connections?

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Thick white smoke clouds.

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Don, Quiz, is steel flammable in office

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fire conditions? No. Well,

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don't we know that? Didn't they admit that the temperature

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got up to a certain amount in the building at a certain level, and yet

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that's not anywhere near what science tells us it

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has to be to melt steel? And what we've— that's right.

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The fires in the jet fuel only get to be 600

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to 1,000 degrees. We're talking here evidence of 3,000

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degrees with the use of thermite. And thermite produces what?

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Not only molten iron, but aluminum oxide

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ash, the thick white smoke clouds.

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So, uh, yeah, that's the only explanation for why

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these structural steel sections are trailing thick white smoke clouds.

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So yeah, Don, we're going to look at the features of controlled demolition

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with regard to the Twin Towers too. So let's do it.

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Um, we've got, uh, we're told this is a,

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a pile driver, uh, driving the rest of the building down to the ground.

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But is that what's happening? Let's look closely.

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I'll make it easier for you. Look at the lower red line,

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the point of plane impacts. Is that upper part

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driving the rest of the building down to the ground, or is

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it destroying itself? It's telescoping

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in on itself. That's what's going on here. It's gone

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in 3 seconds. So man, that's not— if it were

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there, it would have— we would see it driving

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the rest of the building down to the ground. But we don't see it in

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any of the photographs, any of the videos there. If it were there,

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it would have crushed these few remaining core

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columns standing 1,000 feet in the air for

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about 12 seconds before they then, uh, on the—

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by themselves or with additional explosives are brought down.

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So just look at it. Uh, one of these

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is a volcanic eruption, the other one is the Twin Towers.

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It's hard to tell which is which, right? Um,

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uh, clue you in, upward, outward arching

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streamers a geometry of fireworks freely flying solid

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molten objects trailed by thick

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white smoke clouds. That's the analogy that we're

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looking at here. Do we have something that can produce that?

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Uh, yeah, we do. 156 witnesses of explosions,

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and they are found by Graham

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McQueen, who read 12,000 pages of orally— oral

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audio recordings from the oral histories of the first responders.

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And nobody else read these, apparently. Um,

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NIST certainly didn't, because he said there's no witnesses of

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explosions. Well, here's just a few of them. We felt the ground

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shake, you could see the towers sway, and then it

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just came down again and again. Don, you're going to hear this specific order

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of events. They're hearing something, they're seeing something,

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they're feeling something before often

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the towers come down. All of a

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sudden the ground just starts shaking. Felt like a train running under my feet.

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The next thing we know, we look up and the tower's collapsing.

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Shook my bones. Shortly before the first

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tower came down, I remember feeling the ground shaking, heard a terrible noise,

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and Then debris just started flying everywhere.

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I saw flash, flash, flash at the lower level of the building,

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you know, like when they demolish a building.

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Saw a number of brief light sources being emitted from inside the building between

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floors 10 and 15. That's way down low in the building, right?

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So about 6 of these brief flashes accompanied by a crackling

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sound. When? Before the tower

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collapsed. It's very clear here. I saw low-level

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flashes. I saw flash, flash, flash, and then it

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looked like the building came down.

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An explosion appeared at the very top. Simultaneously, from all 4 sides,

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materials shot out horizontally, and then there seemed to be a momentary delay

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before you could see the beginning of

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the collapse. How specific does this fire

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chief, this expert witness, need to be?

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There was an explosion in the South Tower, one floor under another. When it hit

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about the 5th floor, I figured it was a bomb because it looked like a

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synchronized, deliberate kind of thing.

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There's a lot more of those,

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more than 156. Yeah. So is it coming

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straight down? Feature number 3 of typical controlled demolition.

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Uh, yeah, it, it, it does later,

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but at first it begins to tip over. In fact, it's tipping over at 22

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degrees, so there's an asymmetrical loading on the structure below.

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How can then we get complete symmetrical collapse

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all the way down each face of the building like

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many of those firefighters described?

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Corroborating their story.

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What's going on here? We can get a clue by zooming in on

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the leading corner in this looped video.

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I see a dozen independent,

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relatively small explosions which could only

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have been accomplished by pre-placed explosions,

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not directed energy weapons. Not mini

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nuclear weapons, just standard

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pre-placed explosive controlled demolition

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charges. And so we also

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look at feature number 4: are there squibs or isolated

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explosive ejections coming out of the building?

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Yeah, they're occurring down as far as 20 stories below the zone

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of destruction. 40 stories below that

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zone, which we're told is a gravitational collapse. But we have explosions

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60 stories down below the collapse.

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There's no accounting for these whatsoever in the official narrative,

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nor these on the left, a series of independent—

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we're told that this is an explosion occurring down at the point of plane

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impacts at the bottom. But why then do we have a series of explosions

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halfway up, about a dozen,

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all at the same time, destroying the structural integrity

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of the rigid steel frame so that it— as even as it

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begins to lean to the right, it doesn't actually fall off and

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maintain its angular momentum and hit the ground as some solid

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object? No, it's basically turned into a,

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a, a, uh, in midair, a pile of

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independent structural steel pieces,

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and which are then laterally ejected,

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uh, an uncharacteristic feature of controlled demolition.

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You don't want to do this in your typical controlled demolitions,

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impaling themselves in skyscrapers all around,

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destroying the Winter Gardens 600 feet away,

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destroying the Deutsche Bank building so that had to be taken down piece

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by piece. These are those sections. They are mammoth,

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4 to 8 tons each.

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And you can see the guy climbing on the back of it, how big these

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are. The plane didn't have to slice, and it didn't, and it

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couldn't, through these steel pieces. All it had to

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do at 500 miles an hour We have

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an incredible kinetic energy developed with the

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tons of jet fuel in that building— as in

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that building, in, in that, uh, plane. And what is

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happening to these? They are freely flying.

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This is not like a banana peeling off the side of the towers.

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You can see them freely flying, uh, laterally ejected

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like this one. About to hit Building 7.

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Wait a minute, what's trailing it?

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Are steel sections flammable in office fire and

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jet fuel conditions? No, not even.

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This can only be aluminum oxide ash

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from thermite trailing all of them, and there's a— they're ejected

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with incredible kinetic energy. Enough energy to hurl a

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200-pound cannonball 3 miles.

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And so that's 1,200 feet to 1,400 feet

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diameter about each of the towers beyond the perimeter

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of the World Trade Center, again destroying buildings

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well outside, including Building 7. Uh, there was

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some damage to Building 7 in the southwest corner,

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but NIST says that was not a significant factor in

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the building's collapse. By the way, another quiz,

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Don. Uh, if 100,000 tons of

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steel framing is distributed outside the

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tower's footprint, what's crushing the building?

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Yeah, well, it's— I, I don't know. And how did the passport from the hijacker

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emerge in all that rubble? Unscathed. Now, the only thing that wasn't destroyed was the

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passport, right? Uh, you're right, good, good point there. But, uh,

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we, we, we can't— there's 100,000 tons,

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that's a, a third of the weight of the building. Yeah,

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that's not available to crush the building. So maybe it

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was the concrete. Let's look, because we're looking for concrete. I mean,

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110 floors of concrete, 4 and 8 inches thick.

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Each an acre in size. Here's what they're made out of.

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They are made out of, uh,

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concrete poured on metal decking supported by these lightweight

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steel trusses, 3 feet deep. We should have seen a pile of these.

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That would be 100 times 3 feet

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deep. That's, uh, say 300 feet high

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pile we're looking for. Of,

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of decking. Um, we don't

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find 50 of them.

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We don't find 10 of them. We don't find one of them acre-sized floor.

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We don't find half acre, quarter acre, 16th of an acre.

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No, they're gone. In a real pancaking collapse

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like this earthquake in Mexico, we see pancakes,

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right? In a real pancaking collapse Like

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this Bangkok, Thailand building

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from the Myanmar earthquake destroyed.

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That was a 33-story building, but its pile is

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9 times— 3 times taller

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than the pile of 110-story building on the left.

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In New York. So that's what we should

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have seen— a third of the height of the building

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in the pile in any kind of gravitational collapse.

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What do we see on the left? Uh, maybe 6 stories.

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So we're missing a

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lot of concrete here. Where'd it go?

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You can see that— you can tell the, the height of this pile by the

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guys in the lower right. This is a 10-story pile.

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Should have been a third of the height. So the height of the tower

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should have been 30 stories tall at least.

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So where did it go? We're missing another

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third of the weight of this building in concrete. 90,000 tons. Ah.

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Here it is, Don. It's pulverized in

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midair. That's incredible. What,

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uh, all the photos, all the videos show just

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that. What can do that? Well, explosions can do that.

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Uh, heat can do that too. Turns out at 1,500 degrees Fahrenheit,

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half the temperatures that we've just documented, by the way,

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ASTM, American Society of Testing and Materials, finds in

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Report 856 that white powder decomposed

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hydration products is what you're left with. And yeah,

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that's what you get. Uh, and by

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the way, this concrete didn't land and stay in

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the pile. It just distributed laterally in

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a 3-square-mile area.

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Over Lower Manhattan in a blanket 3 inches

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thick. By the way,

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yeah, second quiz: if 90,000 tons of concrete's pulverized

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and spread over 3 square miles from river to river, is it available

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to crush the building?

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No, no, that's another third of the weight

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of the building. That's two-thirds The weight of the building is not even there

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to crush it, and yet all that weight was used by

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NIST through Zdenek Bazant of Northwestern University

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in Chicago to justify their theory.

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And it's fraudulently used to crush

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that building. So we— this is why we have so many architects

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and engineers demanding a new investigation. This is why we have the key characteristic and

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some very uncharacteristic features of controlled demolition, all adding

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up to proof. Fire doesn't count for any one

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of these features, let alone all 10 of them.

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And again, that's why we have to get to the truth about 9/11, Don.

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We have a problem here, right? If, if the towers,

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all 3 of them, were brought down by controlled demolition,

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this is a very dark chapter

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in American history. And that's why you've been talking about it for

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how many years now? But maybe 20. Yeah, well, yeah,

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sure. I mean, it's— and it is— and R.B. Hamm was in talking about it.

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He— I mean, I instantly— because, you know, I've been down these roads since,

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uh, you know, the JFK assassination was my wheelhouse issue. But I

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mean, I don't, I don't trust this, and it just— it didn't look right to

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me. I don't have your expertise, but it looked like a movie. When I was

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seeing it. I said that, yeah, I don't know, I, I don't think it's supposed

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to look like that to me. And it didn't make any sense the entire bit.

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And I've even talked about things like the jumpers, Richard. And I, I discovered

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in doing research myself for American Memory Hole that the first jumper

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happened, I think, within 3 to

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5 minutes of the first impact. And I thought,

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what, why would people be jumping that? They, they thought there was

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no hope that quickly. I mean, I don't know what that means, but those are

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the kind of things you find in there. Is it— why was there a sense

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there that— because we look at other rescues in other countries, I'm sure you know,

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where they have, they have brought like those, you know, planes with water hoses

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and things like that and tried to rescue them. There was no attempt to rescue

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anybody that day that I know of, and it was just this sense of doom.

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And why would anybody think that would happen? That had never happened

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before, a building that big. Yeah,

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it should not have happened. We got to get to the bottom of it.

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Yeah, yeah, that's what you're doing great work. And,

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and what happened afterwards? What was the result of that? The Patriot Act, Homeland Security

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Department, the beginning of the invasion of Afghanistan and

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Iraq in a global war on terror that cost $6.5

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trillion. We're about to do this thing in Iran.

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We've been doing it. Uh, it's, it's, it's a bad situation.

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These are called false flag events that trigger wars

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that the global elite, uh, drag us into through

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manipulations with, uh, these false flag

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events. I just wanted a little bit of time left we have.

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I want to— I just bring up a few things, and I want to find

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the person in here. Uh, well, Linda Craig, first of all,

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had asked Do we know who took that video of the Building 7 collapse from

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that great angle? I don't know what great angle you're

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referring to. You know, the one you showed, the angle that we showed. Yeah,

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I just wonder if we knew who did that.

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Yeah, LT Oracle of Truth. You never know who's going to be

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in the chat room. Uh, he said that he, he owned—

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he's my, my company, Aramark, ran Windows Over the

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World, the restaurant at the top floor of the North Tower that day.

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120 Souls Lost. So you never know who's going to show up in your chat

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room. So great to have you here, LT Workos. We would love to hear some

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comments from, from you. And if you don't mind sending Don an

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email with your email, uh, Don, I would love to speak

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with LT about that. Sure, LT. So my email, you guys should know,

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but it's author as in writer,

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authorjeffreys@gmail.com. But yeah, that would be

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great because you never know who's going to show up in here. And lots of

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points made in here Um, you know, people— because this,

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it's much like the JFK assassination— because the crime wasn't investigated,

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you're going to have tons of theories. And same way here. So because this wasn't

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really investigated, you have the— you mentioned directed energy weapons,

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you have, uh, the hologram, you have the, uh, no planes theories.

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So you have all this stuff because it wasn't investigated.

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So I think I like what you know. We need to start at the premise

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that This is impossible. What they said happened didn't happen,

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so let's try to figure out what did.

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That's right. I try to see if I got any other questions.

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We had lots of people making— it was very active.

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Um, lots of people, big fans of yours, and glad you're here.

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Wonderful. Admire your work.

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Um, LB, my friend Vince Agnelli says even the Northridge earthquake freeway collapsed

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left almost all of the building intact, just pancaked down, which you mentioned about how

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left the freeway intact, uh, most of it.

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Yeah, let's see,

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uh,

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Jackson T. Barrett says everything was dustified.

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What does that suggest, that everything was ground to that kind of dust?

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Other than the passport, of course, that We have the pulverization

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of, of, of 90,000 tons of concrete. That's where

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the dust came from— powdered concrete. That's a lot of,

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of, of concrete too that created from

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river to river that 3-inch blanket. Uh, the steel was not

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dustified. We saw that the steel was ejected laterally.

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No, it didn't land in the pile, but it was ejected laterally— 100,000

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tons of steel from each building.

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Yeah, it's just— I'm looking here, there's a lot of comments,

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but again, a lot of speculation, because, uh,

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this is what people are going to do. That's what Mark Lane said after,

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uh, you know, the JFK— and Rush to Judgment after JFK. He said, you know,

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when you, when you don't have a, a,

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an investigation, you provide lots of fodder for speculation.

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Yeah. And boy, that has been so true. And that's why you have all these

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theories, and people can call it irresponsible responsible. You're crazy, you said this. Well,

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the craziest theory in all these things is the official version.

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We know you proved that it is wrong with science. What you're seeing

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here is not speculation or conspiracy theory. What you're seeing

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is direct observations, videos, witnesses,

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and, and, and, and forensic evidence,

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uh, eyewitness testimony. Uh, it all adds up to one thing,

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and, and that is a controlled demolition of these 3 towers,

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which disproves the whole story from beginning to end. In other words,

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this was a planned event executed, uh, by groups

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of people who, uh, others have done research on

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and, and, and discovered lots and lots of, of evidence,

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uh, for involvement in.

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Absolutely. So I put my corrected email in there. Um,

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The, uh, LT Oracle Truth, that's the guy that owned the restaurants.

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authorjeffreys@gmail.com, not Yahoo, Gmail. I put it in the chat there. But,

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uh, well, this is, this is great stuff. And again, I, I'm just impressed that,

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uh, you're— again, your notoriety is, is definitely growing.

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If you can get people like Roger Waters, is a huge name. I'm not only

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a rock and roll star, but now he's, uh, he's risking real thought criminal status

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with what he's doing here. This is, uh, you know, come out I don't know

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anybody else in the music world that's— Charlie Sheen in entertainment,

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but I— have you ever talked to Charlie Sheen? I guess he's a little too

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unstable. He was the first one that I know of. Yeah, he was,

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and, and, uh, unstable. And he did talk about 9/11,

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and I haven't heard him talk about 9/11. I've never talked to him myself.

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Um, I haven't talked to Tucker yet. He did a 4-part

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series on the, uh, 9/11 truth, which, which is

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awesome. And, and was going to come and speak to us in May again

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in New York. Oh, he switched around. We're,

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we're excited to— yeah, and he's— and I know my audience is jaded

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about that. They think, look, yeah, Tucker did demonize 9/11 truthers a

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long time ago, but give the man credit. He said, he said he was wrong.

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What else do you want him to do? I don't know. Apologized. Yeah, I mean,

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what else? People can change their mind, you know. Think of, uh, you know,

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we're all brainwashed. I was for 5 years. Yeah, you're,

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you're, you talk about yourself. There's one more question here. Bronx Stomper says, uh,

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were the photos of the tower renovation with the rooms full of BB-18

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fuse boxes verified? You know what he's talking about there?

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It's a complex question. Um, yes, um,

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there were, uh, art students occupying floors

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of the towers up near where the planes impacted.

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Uh, we think that's a cover operation for a much

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a deeper, um,

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operation to plant explosives in the building, which was

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done with the elevator— we believe with the elevator modernization that occurred

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in the months prior to 9/11, and with the fireproofing

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upgrades that Kevin Ryan researched,

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uh, that occurred, uh, curiously, uh,

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among the floors that were hit by the planes. So We

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have lots of questions. Uh, the BB-18, uh, boxes visible,

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uh, from those art students, uh,

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are— may have ties to,

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um, uh, devices that were used that could have been

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used to— fuse holders in particular—

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that could have been used for the purpose, according to Tom Sullivan,

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a controlled demolition Uh, explosives loader,

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uh, formerly. So, okay, one, one more question, one more

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question, then we get it. Julia says, what about the

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latest Jersey girl to call out the movement? I'm not sure. I know we had

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the Jersey girls that I thought had disappeared.

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Yeah, the Jersey girls came out and actually forced the Bush administration

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to have the 9/11 investigation, and they signed

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our petition, all 4 of them. Uh, and demanding a new investigation

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based on the evidence for explosive controlled demolition. One of them,

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Patty Casazza, has since, uh, been enamored

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with the less credible directed energy weapons theory.

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Okay, yeah, and that's, that's it again. That's what's going to happen. And, uh,

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you— so I'm— it would be great to— Ellen Mariani, I know she was

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very— but she died, and I, when I was researching that, I still am

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not sure what she died of. Actually, I always look at that kind of stuff,

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but, uh, she was very active. And I know when I was researching

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America Memory Hole, I couldn't get a hold of any of these people. They just,

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they would not, they wouldn't answer, even the ones that had talked before.

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So I don't know, I, that's why I admire you getting really big names like

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that. So, uh, Richard Gage, this has gone too fast. I mean, I was hoping,

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of course, this will be up. Somebody asked about it. It'll be archived on my

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YouTube channel, and it'll also be on the America Unplugged

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YouTube and YouTube and Rumble channels both, I think.

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So lots of information there. You can watch it again. Richard,

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Richard puts it all together, you know, in a concise little less

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than hour format. I, I can't thank you enough. Good luck to you.

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And, you know, I, I probably won't get there this year, but, uh,

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any— give out any links or anything you want to say in closing here?

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Yeah, at September 10th to 13th, make sure

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that you share the link for this conference,

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Turning the Tide 9/11. So that's turningthetide911.org.

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That's the link to the conference,

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uh, this September, the 25th anniversary celebration

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of 9/11 truth. So we are, uh,

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all over it, and we want you to also join us at richardgage911.org.

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And see the 9/11 Crime Scene to Courtroom film series.

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Uh, episode 6 has just been released. You can

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see that at 911c2c.org.

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If you forget all those websites, you can remember this one. It'll get you everywhere.

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richardgage911.org. Well, thank you,

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sir. You're a true American hero. I hope to see you again soon,

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and, uh, good luck with the conference. I know it'll be at least watching,

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uh, the streaming. So, uh, thanks everybody for listening

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to Night Protests. Good luck. And I'm soloing

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today, so I'll close out. No music or anything. Take care. We'll see you next

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week, same time. Thanks, Richard. Thanks, everybody.

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Thanks,