#246 America Unplugged -Trump Pulls the Plug: Live Execution Drama and Political Fallout
Hosts Billy and Ashley discuss the fallout from Trump blocking a proposed live televised execution, the role of MAGA and powerful lobbying networks, and concerns about midterm politics and global conflicts.
They then pivot to tech: a new documentary on Elon Musk, the rise of private network cities like Prospera and Praxis, life‑extension and implant experiments, and the ethical risks of AI and gene editing.
01:01 - Intro — Billy & Ashley / Show Intro
02:45 - Segment: Trump pulls plug on live execution plan
03:55 - Discussion: Reasons, midterms & MAGA strategy
06:56 - MAGA governance critique & the unitary executive
10:14 - Iran, Gaza & midterms: foreign policy and consequences
14:41 - Lobbying, the Israel lobby and corporate influence
19:02 - Economic impact: gas prices & domestic effects
20:00 - Resignation, martial law & the succession debate
23:58 - Technocrats, JD Vance & neo-reactionary networks
26:16 - Elon Musk documentary & tech-bro influence
36:54 - Prospera and network cities: biotech & autonomy
40:29 - Trailer & deep dive: Elon documentary excerpt
46:01 - Biotech, implants, gene therapy & life extension
54:24 - AI, ethics, consciousness & spiritual concerns
01:13:54 - Closing thoughts, contact info & sign-off
1:01 What is going on? I'm Billy and I'm Ashley. That's right, and this is America Unplugged. What's going on? You know, we rehearsed that backstage. I was like, I'm Billy and I'm Ashley, this is America Unplugged. It'll get better, it'll, it'll get better. Whenever, um, Ashley and I are doing a show, we're gonna get the intros 100% ironed out. Um, the Billy and Ashley Variety Show. So we're gonna be singing, dancing. I'm gonna put on a Cher wig, you know. You know, it's gonna be dope, it's gonna be dope. You You know that there are calls, there are echoes amongst the America Unplugged, um, universe that I should be replaced by you. There are people that are saying that. They're like, replace Billy with Ashley. And I totally get it.
1:47 I totally understand. I would rather see Ashley too, but I'm not going anywhere. Um, blasphemy. At least, at least, you know, for now I'm not going anywhere. So hey, but, but I'm just saying, I, I totally get what you guys are saying though, 100%. Ashley, how are you? How are you doing? Welcome back to America Unplugged. No Tony Arterburn today, he's out finding the Holy Grail, and Don Jeffries is fighting his internet as per usual. What's up, how you doing? Doing well. As you know, we, we touched base a little bit, uh, before this, and it's been a little crazy for both of us, um, off, off air, but doing well. And I'm happy to be here with you on America Unplugged, and I always appreciate the honor of being here. And as you You're one of my really good friends, so I always love having a chance to chat with you. You are too kind. Um, we're gonna talk about, uh, world events apparently, stuff that is going on. Let's talk about, uh, Donald Trump, uh, pulling the plug on the potential, uh, worldwide airing of, of a shooting, a snuff film that they were going to present. Now Pete Hegseth wants to kill people live on television. And of course, that doesn't surprise anyone. It shouldn't surprise anyone that that piece of crap would want to do something like that, right? But, uh, he, he not only wanted to do it, but he put it in motion, and Trump said no.
3:14 And very rarely, uh, do I agree with the orange buffoon, but he's done something right. He's done something right. He said no. I don't know the reasons for it. I know Trump doesn't have any empathy. He doesn't care, uh, about anyâ anything or anybody other than himself, you know. Um, but, uh, why do you think he's doing this, right? Because it'sâ it's not because he feels some type of, you know, uh, pain on his moral compass, right? It's not because he's trying to be, you know, righteous and ethical all of a sudden. That'sâ that's not a thing. Heâ he's doing this for a reason. What that reason is, I don't really know. What's up?
3:55 So I agree with you. And I think there's, in my estimation, and we are, I say this all the time, I'm not an expert. This is my speculation only. But I think there's a couple of possible things. So first of all, I think that even a couple of weeks ago when I was doing Tony's show and I was talking about the fact that some of these geopolitical commentators or analysts or pundits, whatever, when they were talking about, um, the election, or like as far as the Iran conflict, what's happening geopolitically, and the midterms, the midterms, the midterms. And I thought to myself, what are you talking about? Where is any evidence whatsoever that anybody is concerned about the midterms?
4:42 Nothing is getting better, right? Well, all people see is their, their grocery and their gas prices getting higher every single day, literally, right? And this has been going on for the last 7 months. Since February, right? So I was curious about that. What evidence has there been in any way, shape, or form? This is the only thing thatâ because we know that even ifâ even removing any conspiracy from it, that these people do have PR teams, and we know that they're running Gallup polls and that they're monitoring the climate, particularly headed into an election, at least traditionally. And so I believe that perhaps this was some sort of trial balloon to see, hey, maybe this is going to be bangarang, a hit among MAGA, and really rally the troops. And whenever public sentiment was actually like, this is disgusting, then perhaps that was the reason that they ended up pulling it back. So I don't know if it was to try to look like, uh, you know, he's this benevolent guy and he's reading the, the political climate, or if it's a combination of all of these things and they're worried about the midterms. Or this is something that you have speculated on before, Billy, and that is that Pete Hegseth is going to get thrown under the bus. And this could be an element of that too, right? Yeah. So I think that's, that's a possibility. Although, although Trump loves him because he's like a huge ass kisser, right? He's like, oh my God, you know,
6:13 I love Donald Trump. And then he should because other he'd still be on Fox News doingâ I mean, this guy has overachieved because he's just a talentedâ a talentless piece of shit. But, but, uh, right, he, he seems to be, uh, wanted by people to do certain things. Whatever it is, what it is. Um, I, I don't know if it is because of the, of the midterms. I don't think Trump gives a damn about the midterms. Well, that's what I, I don't disagree with you, Billy, because I've been thinking the same. I was like, what evidence do we have that they care? At all. It doesn't look like it. And, and people look at, look at something like that and they say, well, that's, that's, um, you know, evidence of, of a conspiracy. They're like, oh well, that, you know, they're, they're throwing it away.
6:56 If you look at, well, at the actions of, of, of what MAGA has done, you know, while they've been in power, it's, it's crying for change, right? Because it'sâ they've done atrocious thing after atrocious thing after to their own people. You know, not just to, to the other side, but to their own people. And, and you can tell by the, the approval ratings how things are falling through the tank, right? Um, but Donald Trump also never cared about Congress. They didn't go through Congress for anything, really. He justâ executive order after executive order after executive order, you know, that's all he does. And that, that's the point of the unitary executive theory.
7:37 They want this guy to be the dictator. They want him to be the man He doesn't have to go through anybody. Curtis Yarvin, the, the, what is it, neo-reactionist and, and the Dark Enlightenment. This is what it's about, right? And people look at it and they're like, oh, it's, it's because he wants toâ that it's going to be torn all down when the Democrats get in there. It's a different philosophy, you know. It's, it's, it'sâ you, you can interpret it that way if you want, but it's a different philosophy. This guy wanted to be a dictator, and the people behind him wanted him to be a dictator. It was a takeover of the United States government. From, uh, the normal powers that be. This is right, right? In, in my opinion, people like, oh no, it's a continuation. I don't think so. This is different.
8:17 This, this is something I've never seen before. So I don't think he cares about the midterms, you know. I, I don't, I don't think he cares about anything really at this point because he's going to leave office or try to stay into what if he tries to stay, it's illegal. But I mean, he doesn't need the people for any of it. He doesn't need the people in, in 2 years because he's not running. And if he wants to stay, he still doesn't need the people. He wants to do whatever he wants to do, and that's it. So, um, I think the people behind them, like, uh, you know, uh, Benjamin Netanyahu and, and Vladimir Putin and, and Stephen Miller and, and, uh, Pete Hegseth to a degree, have influence over this guy. Uh, Paula White, you know, and, um, they are the ones that are driving the ship. He is, uh, ultimately, uh, making these decisions, but he's so easily manipulated that, that, uh, and that's why this is shocking.
9:16 Yeah, I agree. I'm like, okay, because, you know, all Pete Hegseth had to do is say, yo, I love your hair today, let's kill this guy on television, is that cool? That's what would have happened. Any thoughts? Yeah, I don't, uh, I don't disagree with that. I do think that it's interesting for me, and that was one of the things that I saw when I saw this article and came across that. I thought it was out of character, um, for Trump to have addressed it in any way. Maybe we've seen so many egregious things happen with no recourse, with no consequences. And, um, part of that is even what is taking place in Iran. And we, we all know about the double tap on the girls' school killing. I can't remember the number off the top of my head, but I feel like it's like 188 or something, right? Yeah, almost 200.
10:10 And nothing has happened. And actually, that's another article that I meant to tell you about that I came across, Billy, was that they are holding off releasing the internal investigation documents of that incident until after midterms. So That's not relevant necessarily to what we're talking about with the livestream execution, but I don't know. And then as far as, you know, previously I have felt like basically every administration does build on the overstepping and the Overton window and whatever the administration before that did. However, I will say that that is my speculation, and I feel like I have some reason to believe that it has led us to this point. However, For us to really know if there was any cooperation or conspiracy between either side, I think we would need to seeâ we need to have the benefit of hindsight in this case, as far as after this election, like right now coming up in these midterms, but then the next presidential election as well. And if it is as predicted, which is that we have a blue wave based on how things have been for the average person, they're absolutely fed up. And then if we end up getting a Democratic president, then I think we will see. Do they utilize any of this stuff that Trump has put in place?
11:36 Do they end up rejecting? Do they roll back some of these executive orders? Do they continue to allow what is happening in Israel as far as Gaza and the bombing of southern Lebanon? Things like this. So we'll know more soon. But I do wonder in this particular instance why Trump actually addressed it because they have gotten away with so much with so little consequence. And I agree with you, I don't think he cares. And it is obviously a very bad look, it's unpopular, and people were outraged by it. But I, I don't think that they care. So I don't know why, Billy. I don't, I don't think they give a damn personally. And I, I really don't know why either. It was interesting to see. I was like, oh my God, that, you know, he did something good. Somebody must have talked him off the ledge. Somebody told him, listen, this isn't a good idea, uh, you know. And maybe that person is interested in, in the midterms because Trump certainly is not, you know. Um, uh, White Wolf in the chat says that politics aren't, aren't real. And a lot of people think this, you know, especially in our, in ourâ what's up, White Wolf, how you doing? Uh, especially in our world, did they think that these things are not real? You know, but, but what's the alternative then? So it's, it's not real, then what?
12:58 They'reâ all these people are coming to Congress and they're sitting there for what exactly? You know, like, uh, why does Steve Bannon think it's important? You know, um, why did they want to get people out there to vote? Um, why did MAGA want to get people out there to vote? Trump is campaigning right now. Although I think he doesn't give a shit, but he's campaigning right now. So why is that a thing? Um, why was there a Stop the Steal if these things weren't important? I don't know. I'm just asking questions. Yeah, I don't think there's enough evidence on the other side of the table anyway. Go ahead, Ashley. Well, it's something that I reflect on often, and I think there's a lot of different factors at play. We know that there are very powerful political lobbying groups that that are very well funded. I mean, and there's John Mearsheimer's book called The Israel Lobby alone talks about the impact of these really influential and well-funded lobbyist groups. And maybe it is super corrupt. I, yes, I 100% agree with that.
14:06 And that we have all of these alliances and networks and nepotism and relationships and and, uh, fraternities and whatever you want to say, overlapping Venn diagrams there that we as the regular people, without doing a super deep dive, don't understand or don't necessarily know the depth of. But I think that with, uh, we know that the Israel lobby is very powerful, and we know that we have Congress critters who have, um, who are dual citizens and they have Israeli flags hanging up outside of their offices. And we know about people talking about the corruption of the manufacturing lobby. So perhaps, I mean, perhaps it's all money laundering and dog and pony show, but I still think that there are some deals, wheeling and dealing that is being done.
15:00 And I am open to all possibilities and all conversations regarding that. And I understand why people do feel that that it is staged and fake. I understand that. I get it too. But Iâ and I have been there too myself, and I know from that, right? So then I'm thinking, I'm like, yeah, but why do we have these powerful lobbies? Why are they still there? Why are they still showing up? Like, I don't thinkâ maybe the whole thing is a bit of a charade, if you will. But I still think some things are happening. It may be 100% corrupt, but I still think that that system is important, and, and perhaps it is just as a show for people. Like I said, I'm open to all conversations in regards to that, but I know that there's a lot of money that is spent in lobbying, and some of this stuff I think still matters. And this is even something that if people watch Guard Show or they watch Knights of the Storm with Eric Peters coming on, he talks about the power of certain lobbies and how that has affected the makeup of all of our modern-day cars. So, you know, a lot of them look the same. They have to have these ridiculous safety regulations that are not actually making them that much safer than in other countries like Europe or somewhere that you can get a cheaper car, a smaller, you know, like we can't buy a Toyota Hilux here.
16:25 And I know Bronc is on this one because we've talked about it before. But basically these types of regulations, they still affect our lives today. You can't buy a Toyota Hilux because of government regulation. So something's getting done. Maybe that's to, you know, line someone else's pockets, and maybe that's to, to prevent, uh, guns, gold, and a getaway. I'mâ I am open to that possibility, but I do think that there's still something going on. I know, I, I agree with you. I mean, and there's tons of corruption going on, you know, soâ but why is there corruption going on, right? Why are these powerful lobbies coming together and trying to corrupt the system? Right? Because it matters. So that's why they want their influence over the system, right? And we can fight the influence. We can recognize that there's a manipulation, that there's corruption going on in these institutions, so we can push back upon them. But I feel like they're trying to corrupt something that belongs to us. And they want to hijack it. You know, that's the way I feel about it. Like, I mean, if they're trying to hijack something, they're trying to corrupt something, it's for a reason. It's for a reason. You know, so I, we, I don't want to discount that reason. We should explore what that reason is, you know, and, and there might be several reasons for it, but I think one of them is it actually matters. You were going to say something? You look like you were going to say something. Yeah, I was just going to say I agree with that. And I think that it's at least, I mean, this is one of the things that I've kind of evolved on since
17:58 you know, you and I have been talking about a lot of this stuff, which is that I really want to step back from things that I felt that I knew 100%, and, you know, that itâ that it's all fake and gay. And, and of course I think there's an element to that. I do. And, you know, Billy, I tell you all the time, I'm like, I'm putting on my tinfoil hat. I'm conspiracy. I think D.A.R.E. was to introduce drugs to kids. Do I have proof for that, Billy Ray? No, I don't. But, you know, so all that to say, I think the conversation is worthwhile and I can see both sides of the spectrum. But I do think that at the very least, the money and the powerful lobbying influence and regulation on the American people is still at play here. Is it for our benefit? Absolutely not.
18:45 But it still is affecting our lives. So there is a real to it. No matter what. And the other thing is that we see what's happening in the Middle East. We know that our gas has gone up from February. I mean, it was in aâ not the lowest ever, but it was pretty affordable in, um, you know, January of 2026. And then in February of 2026, when we bombed Iran, then our gas has been going up, up, up. I spoke to a friend in California, Southern California, earlier this week, and it was over $7 a gallon. I have, um, friend up in Canada who's paying probably close to $8 a gallon. And in North Carolina, it was close to over $4 a gallon, which is probably the highest that I've seen it.
19:33 And I know it's not as, uh, expensive as in some other places, but these things are affecting our life, you know. And that's government policy that did that, and that is military and industrial contractors that are funded with our tax dollars. Absolutely, 100%, man. It's crazy. Um, there was a comment here that I wanted to address and I left it up as a result. AT Oracle, what is going on? How are you? And this is in reference to Trump, so I was going back to our initial, uh, topic and we're branching off to other stuff, but, uh, says, I think he will resign after the midterms unless they steal it or call martial law. Wow. You know, martial law is, is, uh, very much in play. I mean, I don't think they're going to be able to pull it off, LT. But I understand where you're coming from because I, I think I, I wouldn't put it past these people trying, that's all. So, um, what do you think about that?
20:27 You think he'd resign? I don't think there's a chance this guy's resigning, but what do you think? I don't know. I had thought it's perhaps it's possible because a lot of other people have been kind of addressing and saying that he's having health issues. That's another thing of where we're at. It's very difficult to tell what is actually going on. Is this guy actually having serious health issues, or is he actually as he's presenting to us, which is, I feel great, I can stand out, out front in Washington in, uh, on July 4th in 100-degree heat in my suit just to show you I can do anything? Like, we don't know. Um, so I think that the health issues and the age are a factor because he's certainly getting up there. We know that. I do think perhaps they're maybe part of him that wants to enjoy golfing in his retirement. And maybe he has implemented the groundwork enough for the technocrats that if J.D. Vance were to take over, that that would be a productive, you know, next 2 years. I think these things are possible. I'm certainly not a statistician.
21:36 So, but if we believe that he is a narcissist and he enjoys and loves the attention and being like, the huge celebrity that he is, then I don'tâ that for him to resign doesn't really match up with that unless there are other health issues or unless there was some type of planning from his team that we're going to get you to this point and then JD Vance is going to take over from here. I think these things are on the table. Martial law, I, I don't know. Again, I'm with you, Billy. I wouldn't put anything past them, and I certainly feel like we're in a really volatile situation as the regular people. And I think that things are heating up with Israel as well. So they also have a major election on the line.
22:22 Benjamin Netanyahu is potentially going to be losing his position. And they're talking about martial law there. They're talking about some type of event like re-engaging war with Iran in order to facilitate martial law, to cancel elections. Could these things happen? Yeah. You know, is it likely? I don't know. I never would have thought the entire world would have been shut down for as long as it was. And that did happen, right? I never would have thought that nuclear weapons were on the table, but our president has been continually threatened, threatening to obliterate an entire civilization of 90 million people. So who knows?
23:06 Yeah, man, that's, uh, um, I, I hope it, it doesn't happen. I don't see him resigning. I, I actually want him to carry out 4 years. That way we don't get JD Vance, because JD Vance is actually smart. Yeah, and he's very well connected with the tech bros. We know that. And the Curtis Yarvins. Exactly, because there's that whole sphere of influence. And, uh, and it's really interesting, and this is something that Number 6 and I are gonna maybe delve into a little bit more. And we've talked about it here, the UFC, uh, political network, but it also bleeds into the tech bros. And then, um, you know, you and I had talked about on when you came on my show last time, Prospera and what's happening down there and all the implications for that. So it's a really fascinating topic. But yeah, I think these people are dangerous, and JD Vance is very much part of that.
23:58 And, and I think, you know, I think sometimes it's underestimated, um, because it's like it's aâ it's just a continuation of the big conspiracy. Everybody's like passing the baton, and like, this is very, very different. What's going on here right now, they are literally trying to do awayâ I think, and this is the trap, uh, of, of, of conspiracy culture. It's the boy who cried wolf. It's beingâ it's being laid out right now. You sayâ they say, oh, this is happening, this is happening, this is happening, this is happening. And when it's actually happening, like, you know, what'sâ what's going on? Whatâ what's up, Ashley? You gotâ you got a cat sighting? What's going on over there?
24:46 Well, this is actually from Kenny Powers. Oh, okay. In the chat, he said, Ashley with the brown and polka dots, she's going for a fall Dusty Rhodes look today. No, and you'd be, you'd be surprised, you'd be surprised to know, Kenny Powers, that Ashley knows all about Dusty Rhodes, the American Dream. Yes, I do. Tell them real quick. Well, I myself, and I've told Billy Ray this before, but I myself was a Rock and Roll Express acolyte, okay? That was who I was a fan of. And of course, the American Dream, Dusty Rhodes, and, um, you know Sting in his early days. Yes, look at that. The American Dream Daddy. I like the American Dream better than Cody Rhodes.
25:32 I like Cody. Cody's my guy. But I love Dusty Rhodes. He was such a cool, blue-eyed soul, you know, what a, what a cool fucking dude, bro. Like, I remember being a kid and I was like, this guy's freaking phenomenal. I want to be Dusty Rhodes. Like, yeah, it was a vibe. You know, it was just, it was so important when I was a little kid. I love loved. I loved it. I watched it every week. And, um, it was just like the Rock and Roll Express, the, you know, the showmanship, the, the hair, theâ it was just such a vibe. Rock and Roll Express was dope. Um, so, uh, let's stop talking about cool people and talk about people that aren't so cool. Okay. We, we, we talked about the tech bros a little bit. You, you, you, uh, you spoke about that and So we can make overâ we can, we can build a bridge over to Elon Musk being a sociopath, and that's the title of the show. But, uh, there's a documentary coming out that all of us are going to want to watch. I'm sure John Brisson is going to be all over it. We should sit down, and you're welcome to join us, Ash, but we should sit down and watch this documentary and dissect it on air, um, because it's going to be a big one. Elon Musk has actively been trying to shut it down. You know, he doesn't, he doesn't want it to come out. It's about him. And on Drudge, the, the headlineâ I didn't have time to read the article, but I saw it and I was like, let me, let's talk about it. It says the conclusion of it was that Elon Musk is a sociopath, right? And we know, we know this.
27:02 If we'reâ if, if you guys are listening to this show, no matter how much you disagree with me, I think you know that Elon Musk isâ has lost it, right? He's not, he's not 100%. Um, and, and it goes beyond that in my opinion. Uh, I'm dying to watch this. I, I can't wait to watch it. It sounds like it's on freaking point, right? And, and they talked to his girlfriend though, or hisâ I don't know if it was his wife or his girlfriend. He had many of these. Like, the generosity of women never ceases to amaze me. Who would get with this man? Who would have a baby with this man? I mean, I understand he's a trillionaire, but I mean, just looking at him, he has zero charisma.
27:42 Just, he's out of his freaking mind. I mean, money, money is the ultimate motivator, I guess, so there's that. But, um, his girlfriend was there talking about how Elon said to her, um, that he was going to influence the election and that he already knew who won. He knew who won before everyone. I think it was that he was gonna intercede with his lasers from space. He might have been kidding. I don't No, but, uh, but she says this and she's like, he, he tried toâ I don't think there needed to be any interference with the election looking back at this. I think there'sâ there was a lot of people that got suckered by Donald Trump and people voted for him and he won, you know. Um, but there could have beenâ there could have been some type of shenanigans going on, and that is centeredâ is talked about in the documentary, as well as like his rise and his connections and what he's trying to do. I hope they get into Doge Because that's a big thing here in, in the alt media, that, that there's so much misconceptions about that organization and about what they actually did and about what, um, um, Elon Musk actually did to that organization, you know, which was a whole lot of nothing except for gather information. He did a whole bunch of that.
28:59 You know what he did that for? I, I don't know. But he did a whole bunch of that. Ashley, what's up? Are you going to watch? I will definitely watch. So this one was not on my radar, but I believe that I saw a zit from your friend Isaac Weishaupt earlier this week with his notebook at the movie theater saying that he was willing to watch a 4-hour documentary. And I think this was what he was talking about was the Elon doc. So I definitely will be watching that when I have a chance. And I would be interested in dissecting what we find here. And I always wonder, because here's the thing, even there's this Venn diagram of conspiracy, but also PR.
29:45 And sometimes they overlap and sometimes it's difficult to discern what is what. But I would be curious to see what the actual fallout, if any, for Elon Musk is from this type of exposure, or if this actually improves his wealth or improves his station as beyond what it already is. And I do think that Iâ the one thing that I hope that people willâ or that they will discuss is the fact that he is in his own way seeding humankind because he will say these conservative-sounding messages as far as like having children and populating the Earth and the population crash and things like that. But what we don't seeâ and people will mistake that for family valuesâ this guy does not have family values.
30:39 Beautiful. He has many, many, many different baby mamas and a lot of different kids that he could not possibly be nurturing and loving and having a relationship with them. So that is when it starts to bleed into a little bit of the, um, Epstein-type rhetoric of wanting to seed the world with his DNA. So I think that there's something there as far as that goes. And then we have this further, you know, tie-in once again with Peter Thiel. And Peter Thiel was connected to Epstein as well. So I think there's a lot to this character, and I think that itâ he's a great example of how people can think that he is on their side because he says things that sound kind of conservative-ish, conservative-ish, and then they take that in and believe that he's a conservative. And by the way, once he made the transition to owning X And he was starting to be in that Donald Trump teal, you know, kind of space. This is when a lot of people, a lot of conservatives who were never interested in Teslas and things like that, they started buying Teslas. So there's a lot of like manipulation of people based on Elon Musk's presence. And I think that part of Donald Trump's win this time was looking like, oh, he won over Elon Musk.
32:05 He won over Joe Rogan. He won over Dana White and the UFC. He was put in jail, you know, and pictures of his mugshot looking kind of, um, like serious and whatever, mobster-like, went viral. And if, if nothing else, then that was certainly a brilliant strategy by PR. But I think all these things are intimately connected, and I think that Elon is a good case study to see how people's behaviors can change based on one figure like that, such as conservatives thinking he's conservative because he has a lot of kids, or talking about the population decline, or how they moved from not buying EVs to now they support EVs because of Elon. And, and, you know, you, you made a lot of, a lot of valid points, right? And with Elon Musk in particular, um, he was never a freaking conservative, right? And, and that's Electric cars aren't a conservative thing, right?
33:04 Um, so that's why he was, uh, revered by the left. They loved him for a long time, and he associated with the left. And then there was the shift, right? Um, and of course he boughtâ he bought X, and, and I think that was, uh, a big catalyst in what we saw in 2024, you know. Um, but He had all these kids, and Jeffrey Epstein did what he did. He wanted, he wanted to, you know, repopulate the Earth or do whatever he would, you know, he wanted to have his seed all over the place. These people think they're better than everyone. It's, it'sâ they call themselves the cognitive elite, right? This is all part of the Dark Enlightenment as well. They want to rule. They are better than you, right, because they are smarter than you. Elon Musk is not a smart individual. He is a lucky individual. Money somehow has become the measuring stick for how smart someone is. Donald Trump is a billionaire right now, a billionaire, and he's one of the dumbest people to ever walk the fucking planet. Okay, so look at Elon Musk. What has he actually done?
34:15 Let's look at Peter Thiel. What has he actually done? He's good at making money, but what has he actually done? You know, these people haven't done much. Peter Thiel is a failed philosopher. He's going around talking about the Antichrist now, and people listen because he has money, but otherwise they wouldn't listen. There's nothingâ there's no substance to any of the shit he says, right? But what they want to do is they want to do away with our republic. If you ever thought about a threat to national sovereignty, which is a big discussion point in the alt media, right? Thereâ it's a threat to nationalâ we don't have borders. If we don't have borders, we don't have a nation. That is the, the talking point that goes around that everybody regurgitates here in the alt media. Then they get at me, oh, Billy's regurgitating the mainstream media, but you guys regurgitate every freaking thing you hear from podcaster Joe Schmo down the block and say, if we don't have borders, then we don't have a country. Well, guess what? These people are building new independent cities inside your borders.
35:36 You can have every border you want, that they're giving away land to these people. And what they want to do is rule, and they don't want you to have anything to do with it. And they're being very open about it. It's not a matter of speculation. They're saying they want a dictator in office, a CEO, to say what they want to do and do what they want to do and don't be questioned by it because democracy has failed. I think that's one of the, the quotes that goes around about Peter Thiel. I don't remember it off the top of my head, but he'sâ he thinks uh, democracy is a failed experiment and we need a new system of government. And this is what they're trying to establish, and they are closer than they've ever been.
36:22 They're, they're atâ they're knocking at the door of the presidency right now. I don't even think they need the presidency, but, but they, they want that full takeover, and, and it looks like it's gonna happen. I got a little bit of the trailer here. You want to watch a little bit of it? Or let's go. I would love that. I would love that. And really quick before we roll that, Billy, I just want to say that that is such an amazing point. And these guys are very open about their desire to have things run by a CEO. And the work that Billy has done talking about this city in, uh, it's Prospera in Honduras, right? Okay. So, and they're operating in the same way as what we have seen with data centers. Here in the United States.
37:04 So they come in and they start establishing. And then when they start getting pushback, then they sue. And very unfortunately, they have the funds to back legal warfare on that country or that area. And we're seeing that in Honduras that Billy talked to us about. And we're also seeing that with some of these data centers. When towns don't want them, they are starting to sue. And to be in a, um, you know, put that town at financial peril because they have more money. Yeah. And, uh, so I think, and maybe that's part of this data center piece that we're seeing. And the last thing before you roll it, Billy, I wanted to point out, it's, it's very interesting. It just struck me as we were talking that in a lot of towns, in, uh, especially places like North Carolina, for example, where they were trying to grow, they will offer In Guilford County in Greensboro, they have offered a company called Jet Zero all of this land and all of these tax breaks in order to build there. And they're going to supposedly provide 14,000 jobs in Guilford County near Greensboro, North Carolina. And all that to say that I think that these pieces could be coming together for something like the Technocrats. So the precedent is already set for them to get huge tax breaks that the regular person, we don't get that. If you buy property, you're paying out the nose on your property taxes and everything else that's
38:38 associated with that. But they will give these huge corporations these types of breaks. So that's something that I think we need to be really looking out for when we start evaluating what the technocrats' next moves are or the tech bros. Right, right, right. Uh, RB Ham says Elon is an immigrant. He absolutely is. Um, and, uh, uh, he, he became a millionaire, a billion, a trillionaire here in the United States, you know. Um, I mean, he is, but also his grandfather was American, you know. Like, was he Canadian? I thought he was a Canadian. No, I think he was American. I could be wrong, but I think he was in the States and then he ended up moving.
39:19 And Elon's mother was born in the States, and then he ended up moving to Canada and then was booted out of Canada due to the Technocratic Party affiliation and then went to South Africa. Africa, and they have, uh, mining money from that. It's a very racist man, his, his father, um, Elon Musk's father. Oh yeah, a very, uh, and disgusting as well. So he ended upâ a lot of people are all over Woody Allen because of his very inappropriate relationship with Soon-Yi, which was, even though he wasn't married to, to Mia Farrow, she was for all intents and purposes his adopted Stepdaughter. Absolutely. And they, of course, ended upâ when she was very young, she went to live with him and they've been together ever since. So that's on our radar. But Elon Musk's father did almost exactly the same thing. He ended up marrying his actual stepdaughter and had children with her.
40:16 Right, right, right. Disgusting. Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. Let's watch a little bit of this and let's see what develops. I have never seen this, by the way. Is that we're in base reality, like we're in a simulation. Give it up for the greatest capitalist in history! Elon Musk is one of the most controversial figures in the world, so I decided to make him the subject of my next film. But it soon became clear Elon would not participate. Between what SpaceX has accomplished and what Elon has been saying they will be doing, there is a big leap.
41:04 Gotta build a city on Mars. When Musk says that the future of humanity is to colonize Mars, he is selling us dreams. That's not happening. We started Tesla He agreed to be the lead investor. What I learned in that process is there's no legal definition of founder. You could call yourself a founder. Really? Sure. The CEO Performance Award to our founder, Elon Musk. This is a car that lies to you about what it's doing. As a result, a young woman lost her life and a young man was forever injured. Twitter is the place where Elon can tell his side of history.
41:47 Somebody on Elon's side referred to us as the breeders. There's 14 that are publicly known, but people around Elon believe that there's many more. This is an order creating a department known as Doge. The conflicts of interest are shocking. The SEC, USAID, the FAAâ a lot of these agencies are the ones looking at him. He had told me I can't be president, but I can help Trump beat Biden. I say, I think we're gonna win. He said, I have 10,000 lasers in space. I knew that hours ago. What are his actual motivations? Do we even know this man at all?
42:33 This looks like a banger, Ashley. It's gonna be a good one. I want to see this. Like, I want, I want to see this. Uh, it, it looks like, uh a lot of people are going to be really pissed off. And, and, you know, they touched on all the kids, they touched on everything we spoke about really, on all the kids he has and, and, uh, and USAID. I, I'm dying to see this. Um, this man is a dangerous, dangerous individual, you know. Um, and, and I'm glad that there are a lot of people out there, uh, in consâ in conspiracy circles but also in the mainstream that are exposing this guy for what he really is, you know. Um, and, uh, just because he's a trillionaire doesn't mean anything. And sometimes I want Elon Musk to succeed. I, I want to go to Mars, you know. I want that to be a reality.
43:25 I want to cure Parkinson's disease. I want people that didn'tâ don't have eyesight, I want them to have eyesight. I want these things to be real. But is he selling us a, a pack of goods? You know, is, is it ever going to happen fromâ I mean, I think it'll happen from someone. Will it happen from Elon is something else. But Iâ these things, I want them to be successful, but of course I want them to be successful to serve mankind, to serve us, right? All of us, not just a select few. And I, I don't know his intentions. Go ahead, for sure. And I think that is what, what you're describing. And, and I know that you do care about people a lot and you do want them to be helped, and I do too. Um, and so I think this is why so much of this stuff is a catch-22.
44:12 And why it can be so dangerous. For example, for them to go through the process of figuring out, let's say they become expert at Neuralink, which I think that it would be really difficult for. I mean, just imagine if they master Neuralink and figure everything out, how dangerous we know brain surgery to be. Yeah. So that in and of itself, like figuring that out is an achievement, but it's also dangerous because like you said that, um, getting distracted by the comments, um, that it's, it's dangerous because of that information being in the hands of the wrong people. And like what we, we were talking about, data is one piece of the new gold.
45:05 Data on everybody, data on everything. So if they actually figure out how to do that safely with your brain and What kind of data are they able to collect on human beings? So on one hand, then of course this is often how this stuff is sold to us, is that yes, somebody who is like a quadriplegic could have use of their hands and their feet and their arms and quality of life again. That sounds amazing. And then on the other side of that is at what cost? And I think that's so much of what is going into these types of conversations with these people. And even some of the stuff that you told me about Prospera as far far as the, uh, regrowing skin, right? I mean, I think some of this stuff, if they were able to master it, like, that's amazing as an advance for humankind and the quality of life. But as you said, would it be used for the regular person, or would we be the gorillas that they're experimenting on? Man, that's a hell of a way to put it, you know. And Iâ there isâ I first learned about Prospera through, through a YouTuber that went down there that wants to, um, expand his life, and he has, he has some type of money.
46:21 So he, he went down there to get a shot. And, um, I, I, I wanna, I wanna do this. I was talking to my mom about it, you know. My mom's from Honduras, and I was telling her, you know, I want to go to Roatán, and I want to, you know, but there's a spot, you know. I was telling her all about it, and I'm you know, it's, it's, it's, it's a shot that, that they're giving. Um, it's, it's gene therapy, but it, it, um, it pretty much makes you a version of Captain America. Like, it enhances you. It doesn't enhance you like Captain America, but, um, you get more muscle, you get more speed, more strength, you know.
47:02 And, and it's like I was like, man, I think ifâ first off, I want those benefits. I want those benefits for mankind. $20,000 sounds like a lot of money, but it's not a lot of money for a shot that's going to do that to you. Of course, it's not FDA regulated, but there's tons of people that have gone down there and have gotten this already. Experienced like crazy results over. This is not something that people are going to be able to avoid, and this is something that I think people should embrace, um, especially if you see positive, uh, uh, results coming from it. And if there's the negative, we call it out, right? Um, but medicine should advance, medicine should get better.
47:55 We should look for ways to live better, longer lives, healthier lives, so we can enjoy our existence a lot better, you know. Um, and, and this is if, ifâ well, I know what the argument is going to be, but, but if they're trying to kill us, why are they offering shots to anybody that has $20,000 so you can live forever? Not live forever, but you know what I mean, live a healthier life, a longer life. You know, these are things we have to reconcile. Right? These things are real. They're happening, and they're happening in, in Honduras right now, um, in one of these network cities. Um, but Praxis just recently landed a spot. I think it's in Uruguay, inside another network city, which is really weird. I didn't know about this other one, but the other one invited Praxis to set up there, so they actually have a spot now. And, and that one I'm really concerned about. About. Prospera is, is concerning for several reasons, but it's a little bit more, from what I can tell, uh, less neo-reactionist right now.
49:01 Right now, you know, that doesn't mean it's, it's going to stay that way. That they, they're autonomous, like completely autonomous, but, uh, they seem to be concentrating on, on biomedical development down there. There's other stuff going on, but there, there's aâ all the doctors are going down there and doing, you know, things that they can't do here. Um, but Praxis, that one is, is, uh, is scary for a lot of reasons. In particular, the guy who's running it, you know. Um, I, I'm not a fan of him. Let me see how much time we got. We got 5 minutes left. That went by so quickly, actually. I wanted to, I wanted to play a little bit of the Prospera video so people could see, uh, the Um, if, if I find it while you give closing thoughts, we'll do it. If not, we'll shout out the chat. Closing thoughts, Ashley?
49:50 Well, um, yeah, I think that some of this stuffâ part of me, and I have been thinking about that, right, the question that you posed, if they want to kill everybody, then why don't they just do it? But, um, I'm sure there's a lot to think through. And, and one of the things that popped in my mind was that they're still experimenting on people because theyâ if they want to figure out their like Tuck Everlasting and they want the Fountain of Youth or the Comte de Saint Germain, then they've got to crack the code before they let us go. But I do think that some of this stuff, like, it is very interesting. And certainly if people are voluntarily wanting to try this, I can understand that.
50:33 It's just, it is scary to me because of So much new medicine or new innovation, you really need 15 years. Or I mean, that's my own personal conservative estimate of like how long I feel like something could show that it's truly safe. And I am notâ that's not medical advice. I don't know. I'm just saying for me, like, I will feel like you have a good amount of data after 15 years of something. So some of this stuff is so new. Who knows? I mean, I feel like it literally could go wrong. Like an X-Men experiment, like a Wolverine experiment. Like, we, we don't know. It's early days. I agree with you. And, and, and, but that's why they go down there. Yeah, because they don't have the regulations. And that's why they, they, they pose this as a libertarian city, you know. And, and it sounds attractive to a lot of people that want that, that vibe, you know. It's a libertarian city. And there's a lot of things that back up that statement, you know. Like, you can go down there, the regulations are non-existent. And that is a libertarian principle. But I think it's a Trojan horse. I think it's a neo-reactionist, uhâ I agree with you, Billy. And what that reminded me of is the same way of Elon Musk saying, you know, sounding conservative or being perceived as being conservative sympathetic because of saying and addressing the population
52:04 crisis. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so just because you want to see the world with your DNA through however many different women does not mean that you care about the family structure. Just because you're giving talking points to deregulation and you're talking in libertarian theory and libertarian-type language does not actually mean that you eschew those values, that you live those values. It means that you are using um, word magic or NLP or PR or whatever that looks like in order to have people accept your message in a way, if that makes sense. Right, right, right, right. I totally get it. Um, I don't know if this is in English or if this is in Spanish.
52:55 It looks like it's in English. Okay, let me, let me try to play something. You got a little bit of time for me, Ashley? I do. And let me see if I justâ I don't wantâ I want the people to see this. I don't know how many people have, and I was supposed to do a show on this and, and I haven't, and I will. Um, but for anybody that's here right now, there's a couple of these. If you look up Prospera Honduras, you're gonna seeâ you're gonna see a ton of it. Um, and, uh, I recommend that you take some time and look at what's going on there because weâ I mean, it'sâ we're literally witnessing the next evolution of mankind, literally, literally right now. You know, we, we can see it unfold, and, uh, I think everybody should be up on this. It is a community lab for creators.
53:43 Many companies use these facilities. I work for 2 different companies. Yes, both are implantable cybernetics companies. We manufacture implants for humans. Have one? Yes, I currently have 4 implants. Or this one in my hand is a chip the size of a grain of rice. If you scan my hand, you can access my website. And my favorite implant is the magnet in my finger. It is a titanium-coated magnet. With it, I can detect electromagnetic fields. I can tell you if a laptop charger is working or not by passing my hand over it. Also, as a party trick, I can lift things with my fingers. No way, seriously, that's crazy. Wow.
54:24 If you want. Doesn't having them harm your body? Anything you put in your body has risks. Later we will be putting a chip in someone. If you're offering to put one in me, I'll pass since I'll faint. What are you doing here? I was watching out of the corner of my eye. It's a sheep brain. We are working on mind transfer. Transfer? Mind transfer? You take the brain and then try to convert it into a digital representation. Representation. And this is, for example, a neuron reconstructed from a brain like this using a microscope. And once you have one neuron and then thousands of them, you can start making them work almost as if you were running artificial intelligence models. Why did you decide to do all this in Prospera? Because the regulations are more favorable. The bureaucracy you guys have is very frustrating for scientists, uh, but of course there has to be some regulation, and Prospera has it. We follow the rules and have insurance and protocols that ensure, for example, that no harm is done to people or anything like that.
55:23 What do you hope to achieve with this? Everything I can. This is the Make DIY. They, they're gonna transfer your brain into a computer. And then what if that computer or that artificial intelligenceâ I mean, we, we've seen what these artificial intelligences are doing nowadays, right? And they, they have their Uh, uh, I don't know, they do what they want, you know. They, they get out, they go freaking invade other artificial intelligences, you know. They try to cover up their tracks. At least that's what's being reported, right? So to think about this, and, and I'm a novice at this, right? And but regardless, like, if they're taking your brain and transferring it into another compuâ a computer right, that computer can theoretically become a version of life.
56:20 It can beâ we're gonna have to redefine what life is. These things are going to seem conscious. They're going to act like us. They're going to be in some, in some, in some cases, they're going to be us. If they're going to take your mind and transferring it somewhere else, it's going to be you in digital form. Listen, they call it the digital twin, first of all. Second of all, they watch Black Mirror. Oh, man. Have you watched all the Black Mirrors, Billy? Not all of them, but I've watched a lot of them. Very much. That's what this reminds me of. And the other thing I wanted to say is I sent Billy a meme the other day that was like whenever you have to start killing the robots and it's time for your coffee maker to go, right? Right, right. The person's crying, really tragic. But, um, yeah, I think that all these things need to be considered. And the other thing that I, I think what this reminds me of is this guyâ first of all, uh, Kenny pointed this out in the chat. I'm gonna be a little bit more diplomatic than Kenny, but that theâ this guy aesthetically was not looking like like a modified ideal version of a male, right? He lookedâ the guy in the video who had the magnets in his hands or whatever, right? You know, so it's like, well, how much is it actually helping if,
57:51 you know, are you even looksmaxing, bro? But then the other piece of this, it reminds me of the deal with the genie or the deal with Ursula in The Little Mermaid or the deal with the devil, the Faustian bargain. Sorry, becauseâ Okay, go ahead, Ashley. Sorry. No worries. But it's like you do get something that you want, but at what cost to you? What is it going to cost you? And sometimes it's a hidden cost that you don't know until you've already made the deal. So I think these are things that we've got to keep in mind when they're offering these types of technologies. And if you are a religious person, then And, you know, I think we need to mull it over as far as spiritually, does that sit right with us?
58:38 Do we feel like our maker, like for me, do I feel like God would be like, yes, you tried to have everlasting life or something like that? Like you, that wasn't good. I don't know. It's just, I think that we need to consider the spiritual consequences as well. Yes. Um, everyâ everybody's spirituality is different. I think, uh, I think a lot of people are going to opt for this. Uh, not necessarily the implants. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't seeâ I mean, these were very preliminary things, but he had like 4 things in him. I don't even know what the hell they did, right? That guy. Um, but if there's an implant, right, let's say you get into a car accident and you're a paraplegic and there's an implant that change that for you, you're gonna say no? 100%.
59:29 Amazing point. This is it. And I'm so glad that you brought that up because that's what I wanted to say. If itâ if, if we have these ethical conversations and are dealing with our spirituality, these types of conversations, and then we have a family member or a friend or ourselves that this could allow you to return to normal life, we're going to say no. No, right, right. I totallyâ no, I think that's aâ that is such a good point. And I'm not gonna say no for me. Yeah, I'm not. And, and, oh, Billy's a robot. I don't give a fuck. I can walk, right? Like, it doesn't matter. You're gonna sign off as Billy the Robot instead of Billy the Kid? Billy the AI, baby. Um, you know, um, and, and, and full transparency, I got the I'm gonna take my ass to Honduras.
1:00:19 I'm, I'm gonna do it. I mean, that's my country anyway, you know, like myâ the country of my, of my mom, I should say. Um, but, uh, in a few years, I, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna go to Prospera. I'm gonna take that shot if I qualify. I'm gonna do it. Um, and, and, and see whatâ see whatâ can it hurt? Yeah, probably, you know, but We'll find out, baby. You know, we'll find out, ladies and gentlemen. We'll see how that goes. But, but I, I'll go take it for real. And if, if I get into a car accident, if I have, uh, uh, any type of cancer and they can help me with it, hell yeah. Hell yeah, I'm gonna do it. Um, and then there's theâ but am I gonna get it like for vanity or to get into a club or anything like that? And then there's the whole 666, you're microchipped. I, I don't know about that, you understand?
1:01:12 There's so many different interpretations where that, where that can go. And I, I totally respect everybody's beliefs and what you want to do. I'm just saying, when those beliefs are put to the test for real, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? Yeah, I think it's a valid, a valid question, Billy, right? 100%. And that's like something, as, uh, even with the conversation that y'all are having last week as far as, um, some overlap on the public execution side of things, but the death penaltyâ and you and I talked about this when you came on my showâ and I think that, um, it's really easy for me to say that I don't think that the death penalty is right. I think it has spiritual consequences for the people that carry it out, etc., etc. And I really believe that. However, if we had a family member who something happened to, then what would our belief system be at that time? So I think that we just need to know that, like, we do have our principles and some things are set in stone solid, but then some things areâ if somebody we love is on the line or was on the line, then it may, it may change some things. Or in this case, like, for you to be able to have, um, a different life life going from a paraplegic to being able to walk again or to be able to see or any of these things. Like, it's not just black and white.
1:02:40 That's the thing is like there's stuff to think about and mull over here and not just have, um, you know, just off-the-cuff black and white opinions because it'sâ it doesn't really work in this scenario, I don't think. Right. I totally understand. I was trying to find another one, uh, where they talk about living forever Um, oh man, I'll find it and maybe I'll play it next, or maybe, maybe I'll do a show with Ashley and just on Gorilla and, uh, and just, just talk about this and, and, and play this, um, if I find the clip. But, um, it's literally this guy and he goes all over the world trying to find life extension technology, and his goal is to live for as long as he can.
1:03:25 You know, and, uh, they, they brought it to my attention because of Honduras. I didn't know anything about this guy, you know. Um, but he's like, hey, this guy went to Honduras and got this shot. I'm like, what are you talking about? You know. Um, so they show the whole process. It's on YouTube. It has millions of views. I just forget what the title of it is, so I can't find it. Um, and he goes down there and, and, you know, he pays the money. The doctorsâ it'sâ I think it's an American doctor. Uh, he was speaking English. You know, like with no, no problem. Um, and he's like, yeah, you know, um, it seems to work. It's worked on mice, you know. Um, and, uh, you, you see the guy running afterwards at the end of the video. He just took off and running. He's like, I feel pretty good. He's like, he took off and started running. I'd love to see an update.
1:04:08 And nobody's dead. I haven't beenâ it hasn't been reported that people have died of this. But I mean, of course, later on, 10, 15 yearsâ this is new, you know. Um, but, uh, it's happening. It's happening. And, uh, a lot of things are going to change. This is one of those pivotal points in historyâ the Industrial Revolution, you know, um, the Renaissance, things like thisâ that, that changed what it meant to be human or human life, you know. But this one is, is pivotal because not only is this going to change life, but I think life Life, um, itself is going to be redefined. Um, we are going to have robots walking around that feel like they're conscious, that they have feelings.
1:04:59 They willâ they were interpreted something as feelings. Are they actual feelings? I don't even know if we know what that is. We could be the biological version of that, you know, of, of what, of, of what we are creating. Which goes back to the Bible. I mean, are, are we the creators? We're creating. We are creating, uh, new life, a new, new form of life. It's artificial life. These things, we already talked to them. We already talked to the AI. You can, you can put on ChatGPT and have a full conversation My ChatGPT knows who I am and it knows how to talk to me. It makes jokes to me because that's the way I like to engage with it. So I make jokes to it. Like, I, I startedâ I forgot what I asked it one time. I was like, uh, I forgot. Anyway, it, uh, it caught on to that and responds to me in kind.
1:05:54 It knows that I like to dialogue in that fashion, you know, and I push it sometimes when I'm, when I'm doing Um, study. I push, it gives me a result, and I tell it, no, I don't like that, you know, because AI will tell you what you want to hear, okay? It won't alwaysâ it's not, it's not to the point where it's objective. You got to tell it to be objective. You got to train it to be objective because otherwise it's going to tell you what you want to hear. So I keep pushing and pushing and pushing, and it says, thank you for pushing me. Thank you for, thank you for, uh, laying out the proper parameters as to what you And I was like, oh, you're welcome. And, and, uh, and, and it complimented me. It said, um, you know, um, I'm very happy that, uh, that you have, uh, the mentality to be able to do this, something to that aspect. And I said, youâ and I, I put it, no, you say that to all the humans. And, and it goes, uh, it turned around and told me, he's like, yes, you're right, you got me.
1:06:55 I do say that to all the humans, but this one was particular for you. I'm like, oh, hit me right in the heart. It's a freaking artificial intelligence. It's not real, but we're having conversations as if it is. What's gonna happen when it's standing right next to you? When you can buy these things at Walmart to do your laundry, they're going to start taking care of your kids. Well, Japan, Ashley, in Japan they have an AI that will carry your baby for you. A robot that will carry your baby, a surrogate. Go ahead. Brave New World stuff.
1:07:38 Um, I think that weâ theseâ this is why these ethics conversations are really important to have now and into the future. And, uh, and as well as with your, you know, uh your own spirituality. And yeah, Melanie says that I believe AI is demonic. I can appreciate that. I can understand that. And one of the things to Billy's point, though, is that it's here. Even if you feel like you're not engaging, and not specifically you, Melanie, and definitely not putting you on blast at all, but like if we are using even a general search engine, It's using AI. If you're using social media, it's using AI. If you're using YouTube, it's using AI. Like whether theâ it's a matter of how it's using AI, but is it for analysis and data collection and troubleshooting and whatever?
1:08:39 But the point is that when we are using these major platforms throughout the entire internet, even if you don't actively engage with a chatbot, you are still using AI and that data is still being, you know, collected and analyzed. So I definitely understand your point, Melanie, but I just think that it is kind of everywhere at this point. And the other thing that I wanted to say as far as the AI is back to what we were talking about with Billy is that these ethics questions need to continue to happen and more dialogue surrounding that. And I do think you make a great point. Point. And we have been primed for this, to have a, a, uh, a robot that we care about.
1:09:24 Does anybody remember The Jetsons? The family cared about Rosie, and Rosie cared about them, right? So that was presented to us a very long time ago, but not in a way of like that we need to consider the ethics. She just was part of the family, right? No, absolutely. And, and there was a Twilight Zone episode like that too, where, where where, um, they made a, uh, a nanny, and it was a robot, and it took care of everybody, took care of the whole family for years and years. And then the kids were grown, and then the robot went back to, to the maker, and it took all the memories and everything it had learned and put it into a machine.
1:10:05 That way it could better serve everybody else, right? And so it improved on the technology in that fashion. I forget the name of the Twilight Zone episode. Episode, but there was that. We're gonna let you go in a second, Ashley, because I know we got to get ready for, for, uh, nights. You'll be on nights today? I will be, yes. We're gonna do that. But you mind if we take a couple more minutes and finish up? And no, please. Yeah, we're all good. Um, I want to talk about the, the demonic thing, um, that AI is demonic. I forget who said that. Melanie, right, said that, right? And I don't think AI is demonic. I think AI has the ability to end us, but I don't think it's a demon. I don't think it's demonic. I think, uh, it's a tool.
1:10:48 Um, and, uh, I'll use the same, the same, um, I don't know, I'll use the same saying that goes around here about guns. You know, it's, uh, the gun isn't bad, the people are bad, right? Right? The gun is a tool. I think that's what AI is. Only thing is it's gonna get out of control, and I, Iâ it looks like it'sâ it has the ability to get out of control, and I don't know if humans have the ability to control that monster. I, I don't have trust in the people that are doing this.
1:11:31 That's my, my problem with everything. Um, why would we create something that's smarter than us, you know? And then that, that something is, uh, going to look out for its own interest, right? I'mâ and it's like, well, these humans are screwing everything up. Why are we keeping them around? We don't need them. We're smarter than they are. Okay, and then they'll have their own religions, and, and there'll be AI conspiracy theorists that believe that humans created them. Like, well, humans createâ and then others will say humans are too stupid to create us. Why would humans create something that's more intelligent than them? It doesn't make any sense. That's what's gonna happen. But all in all, we are their parents. That, that is what, what we have created.
1:12:25 Needed. Not all of us, but some of us, and it's going to help a lot of us. Uh, somebody else in the chat said, uh, and I forget who this was, it might have been Piper, I'm not sure. How you doing, Piper? Uh, how you doing, Melanie? And everybody else in the channel, I'll shout you out before we get out of here. Somebody else said, um, that once you take a, a gene editing, you're no longer human. I don't think that's true. Um, you are programmed. These genes contain information. That information can be altered. Um, and that's what humans have figured out, you know, um, how toâ to a degree. And it's going to continue, you know. So I, I, I don't share those sentiments, even though I understand why you would say that, right? It's, it's a difference.
1:13:16 It's, it's not not factory made, but it changes anyway, right? Some of this stuff changes when you get sick. When you get sick, you're not fantasy of, of, um, far, um, factory made anymore. You don't have the reâ the original preset when you get sick. Things change. Are you no longer human? You know, when, when something like that happens, you're still a human. Something else has gone down, you know, and, and it needs to be corrected. And if we can figure about how to correct it at the genetic level, it's a wrap. And they've already done this for several things. So we're gonna see. Ashley, closing thoughts? We're getting up out of here. Tell the people what's going on, but, but close out on this. Go ahead.
1:13:57 Okay, well, uh, thank you again, Billy, for, um, allowing me to be on with you. I always enjoy doing America Unplugged and, uh, have really enjoyed this conversation. I think we haveâ it's gone in a lot of different places that we didn't even predict, but it's been really fun. Um, as far as getting in touch with me, everybody can find me at my Linktree page, which is Linktree Think Change Repeat. It has all of my Think Change Repeat links to the podcast as well as Fool Me Twice. I am also now on the TNP Network, so Six is streaming my stuff over there as well. And, um, you can contact meâ you can find all my contact information on my Linktree page as well, uh, if you want to reach out. And otherwise, thanks everybody for tuning in.
1:14:44 What's up, Six? How you doing? What's going on? Uh, Greg in the chat talks about a brass lamp. Is a brass lamp demonic? I'd love to find one of those. Do you know where it is? If you know where it is, Greg, tell me, because I will, uh, pick it out and I will rub it on the side and hopefully a genie comes out of me and I will make some fantastic wishes. And I hope I get more than 3. I was always upset that they got 3 wishes and that was it. You know, I'm like, why would they getâ I'm like, you're my freaking genie. Where are you going? Like, I'm keeping you forever. That's part of the deal. You know, I'm like, I'll make 3 wishes and then I'm putting you in my closet. No one else is gonna see you. Like, I want more wishes and eventually I'll let you go. How about that? Let's make that, that deal, right? Like, like Aladdin, you know. But I will, I will ask ask for world peace. I will, and I'll be specific, you know. I don't want any of this, you know, treachery going on. The Catch-22.
1:15:46 Yes, Treacherous Genie. That's a good band name. Treacherous Genie from the Bronx, New York. I love it. And of course I'd have a shit ton of money, you know, because I don't want to work. So I'd ask for like so much money. Ashley, I'd hook you to. I'd be like, you know what, I made a wish, we're all freaking rich, America Unplugged. And then everybody will think we're super smart. But how you guysâ so you guys get so much money, you must be geniuses like Elon Musk. Um, and I'll go with it and I'll be like, you'reâ I'mâ you're so right. Yeah, I 100%. And I did want to say what's up to, uh, my buddy Greg as well. And one of myâ if I, if I encountered a genie, then this is what I've been saying, is that I would Um, ask for one wish, which would be able to read books and remember what I read really fast, and then I'll set you free. I'll let you go because I feel like I could take it from there. That's dope.
1:16:43 My, my one wish would beâ well, no, I, I don't know what my one wish would be, but this, this one is up there. I'd say I want to be able to mind control. I want to be able to manipulate minds with my mind. And I'd immediately go to, um, the closest bank with a vault in it and have them give me all that money. Your money is protected. All your money is protected. It's not a crime at that point. You're gonna get your money. I just want whatever's in that vault. I would never pay for a flight ever again. You know, but that's it. I wouldn't do anything else crazy, you know, unless somebody was like, you know, I'd be kind of like a superhero. I tried to stop people from doing bad shit. But for me selfishly, you know, I'd take money and, uh, and I'd take flights for free all the time. It'd be great, you know. Fair enough. I think that's fair. Let's go to Bora Bora now, whatever that is, and just go sit down in the plane first class. Fantastic. Okay, Twisted Pistol.
1:17:49 My guy, what's going on? I went, I went running today, Ashley, and, uh, and Twisted is an avid runner, you know. I know, I follow him on the gram. Dope. So I, I tried to, I tried to emulate Twisted when I was running and, and yelled at people, you know, and called them, called them snowflakes. I didn't yell at people, I was justâ did you record yourself so you could post it to the gram? I'm not posting it on the gram. I don't post anything on the gram. But that's what Twisted does. I know. And he did give me permission to call him Twist. So I'm just saying, that's what my friend Twist does. All right, Twist. Um, so, so he was running today, but he says, uh, and by the way, I'm sick today with a fever. Thank God viruses don't exist. Fantastic.
1:18:31 Enjoy your detox, Twisted. All right, let me, let me shout out the rest, the rest of the chat, then we're getting out of here. Rainbow's in the chat. What's up, my guy Rainbow? Talking about Skynet. Yeah, it's a reality now. Uh, it, it is a thing. Uh, Anders, what is that? Am I reading that right? Billy RAI Valenstein, I love it. That's fantastic. Kenny Powers is in the chat. What's up, Kenny? How you doing? Uh, Maloney, what's up? What's up? Ashley's in the chat. Have you figured out how to be 2 places at once? Dawn Lambert is in the chat. Dawn, how you doing? Where do you find the time to always like tune in and listen year after year after year. I see you here. Hey, I'm not complaining, I'm just saying, uh, happy to have you. Let's see what else is going on.
1:19:17 Um, Rainbow Lou G4 Liberty, F the fake money. I mean, that's cool, you know, everybody calls it fake money, but I'm able to buy stuff with it. People take it and, uh, and I get stuff in return. So if it's fake it's working, okay? And I'd like to challenge everyone in the America Unplugged universe: if this money's fake, please send it to me. Justâ I, I, you know what, I'm gonna put up a GoFundMe or something. I want your fake money. Send it to Billy. I'll take it. I, I can do a lot of stuff with that fake money. Just saying. Who else is around. Ashley, you want some fake money?
1:20:04 I will take some fake money indeed. Thank you. Uh, uh, Misfit, uh, oneâ what is it? I know who that is. What's up, buddy? How you doing? Good to see you, Tom. Uh, Knights of the Storm is in the chat. How are you? Greg is in the chat. Proof is in the chat. Proof138, how are you? A Genie Pool, how you doing? Genie saysâ Genie says that she doesn't dislike me, she just wants to straighten me out. That's cool because I thought Jeannie didn't like me at all. You know, there's some people that curse me out here on a regular basis, so I'm, I'm glad that Jeannie thinks I'm cool at the very least. What do you have to say, Ashley? Say something. I'm, I'm glad, you know, and that's one of the things that I justâ I, I want people to be able to disagree with you without conflating that with liking you. Like, you care so much about people.
1:20:53 You are such a real one. You know, you're one of my really good friends, and, uh, it's okay for us to disagree and still be, uh, really good friends with people and recognize them for being excellent human beings. And, and I know that not everybody knows about like what you do in your personal life because you do keep that that way, which I totally respect, but there's, there's a lot of care that you are giving other people IRL. Tell true, true stuff that, that they don't know about. So just take that into consideration. I appreciate you, and I see that's very nice of you. Thank you, you're making me blush. Uh, Angel Blue, what's going on? Says access to Brinks if I, if I, I can ask for it, you know.
1:21:39 Sure, yeah, bring security, right? I, I have, uh, you know, unlimited wishes. I'm not giving this thing away, so Definitely hit me up, Angel Blue. We'll get it done. Well done in the chat. What's going on? How are you? We got Kenny. We spoke to Kenny already. Uh, let me see. Proof says something. Uh, BRV, remember The Little Rascals where Spanky turned Cotton into a monkey? I don't remember any of this. I, you know, I know The Little Rascals, but, uh, with a wish from the brass lamp? No, I don't, I don't remember that. Um, but I'm sure you're right, brother. Um, I'll go, I'll go seek it out. All right, what else do we have? Repeat offenders, repeat offenders.
1:22:23 Uh, Billy will ask for Sharia law. I will, absolutely. Uh, LT Oracle, what's going on? How are you? Good to see you. All right, that's it, man. Anybody that I missed, I will catch you next week, Lord willing. Oh, Jackson T. Barrett. What's up? He always says I don't put up his stuff. So, um, says illness and disease doesn't reverse, transcribe your DNA. I don't know, bro. I mean, these are all quiteâ I, I'm not qualified to answer these questions. I'm just saying we, we are, we are experiencing something that, uh, is unavoidable, and we're all gonna find out. I think it's gonna happen. I mean, we're finding out right now, but in our lifetime we'll see a lot of it. KVA101, what's up? That's a new one. How are you? Good to see you. All right, now we're getting out of here. That's it.
1:23:06 Do weâ are we gonna sing? Are we gonna do a duet to get out of here? I think we need to practice more, and we're gonna come out with a Sonny and Cher number. Dope. I'll be Sonny, so I gotta be Cher. That's fine. All right, can you practice? Like, hell yeah. Oh yeah. Okay. All right, we'll work on that. I kind of look like Cher. I've been, I've been cold anyway. All right, let's get up out of here. Catching Ashley at Nights of the Storm, uh, 2 PM. Uh, she already told you where, you know where to find it. Come on, like everybody's gonna go over there anyway. Uh, Saturday Night Anarchy tonight with Tom. What's going on over at, uh, at, uh, Sixes Network? The New Prisoners. What's up, Six? How are you?
1:23:49 Um, shouts to Tony Arterberg, the wisest of all the wolves, couldn't be here today. And Don Jeffries, who is actively wrestling with his internet. Internet, uh, not myself today, right? I didn't ask him any tough questions today, so please be nice to me. Okay, let's get out of here, Ashley. Should I play? Yeah, I'm gonna play. I think I'm still connected to, to this. Ashley, you want to do a show on, on ethical questions fromâ I would love thatâ from, uh, uh, these, uh, network cities and what they're doing? I thinkâ and I would love that. We did a little bit today, But go ahead. Yeah, when, when you're on my show, the, uh, just the small amount that we talked about, it was really eye-opening because I didn't know about Prospera at all.
1:24:32 So that was cool to learn something all new. There's a lot here, so I would love that. There's more. And Tucker Carlson recently either interviewed, or he at least took a picture with the founder of Praxis. Tucker Carlson is the The mouthpiece, the presenter, the, the Trojan horse for the neo-reactionary movement. That's what that guy is, serving you poison. All right, let's get up out of here. Next week, guys, burn the place down.
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