#242 America Unplugged -$5,000 Bribe or Baloney? Trump, Tariffs and the MAGA Promise

0:01 Donald Jeffries, Donald Jeffries, author of Hidden History and Survival of the Richest, host of The Donald Jeffries Show. Billy Ray Valentine, Billy Ray Valentine, host of The Infinite Fringe podcast, researcher, truth seeker from the Bronx, New York. Tony Arterburn, Tony Arterburn, radio host, combat veteran, precious metals analyst, and alt historian. Together they take on the headlines of the week, decode the information and plow through the mainstream propaganda, unauthorized, unscripted, and unintimidated. This is America Unplugged.

0:46 What is going on? How is everyone doing today? Hope everybody is doing well. My name is Billy Ray Valentine, the War on Reality Report. It's America Unplugged. Tony Arterburn is back from the Crusades. How are you, sir? Tell Tell the people what's going on. It's good to be back. I got a chihuahua on my lap. I've got some coffee. Maybe, uh, maybe I'll start smoking again. We'll see. What, what will we be smoking? Oh, that, that's good. I don't know if that— should we censor that? Either or, whether it's tobacco or non-tobacco product. On, on America Unplugged OnlyFans, we will divulge what Tony Ardaburn will be smoking. And, and if, if, um, you pay for it, you can smoke with Tony Ardaburn virtually, of course. But if you have enough money, Tony Ardaburn may come out to you at some point and you guys can smoke together. Much like my affinity for old TV shows, I only smoke non-filtered cigarettes like Rod Serling. I mean, if we're gonna do it, we got to do it all the way, right?

1:50 So that's what I do. All these barriers— non-filtered, damn it, no filters. Just like America Unplugged, the legendary Don Jeffries is here today. No glasses, but, uh, but you know, they're coming back at some point, you know. And it looks super cool in them last week. Tell the people what's up. Yeah, not much. The eye is healing. Uh, yeah, I, I don't know if you guys heard, Pat McAfee on ESPN, uh, was caught smoking— it looked like a joint— on air. So constantly, but you know, everybody knows. Although Twisted Pistols says you can't smoke weed in Texas, it's a felony now. I didn't know that. I thought it was legal everywhere. I don't know what they're doing down there in Texas. Good thing I don't smoke it anymore. I wouldn't know what to do. It's a different world down there in Texas, man. I don't know, Tony Arterburn might know something about that, man. Um, I, I don't know what's going down there. What's, what's up, Twisted? What's going on, Pat McAfee? Uh, it's Disney, damn it. It's, it's a Disney— it's a Disney-owned station and you're smoking a joint. Think about that.

2:47 I'm sure he won't get fired. I'm sure he'll be fine. And if he does get fired, his, uh He'll just have a bigger show online. So yeah, that's right, they have to, they have to hold on to him. They have to keep him. All right, man, a lot of things have gone— are going on in the world. I do want to talk about Russia a little bit and the tensions with the EU and NATO, um, but I think we'll start off— and the $5,000 that we, we're gonna get. Everybody's gonna get blessed. Everyone. We just have to make sure that, uh, Republicans win the midterms. So there's a prerequisite here. The Republicans need to win the midterms in order for everybody to get 5 G's, man. So I'm down with it. You know, I think whatever happens, it's gonna go to hell anyway, so I might, I might as well get paid.

3:32 Um, so I'm down. Let's all do it together. $5,000, and that's what it takes to buy my vote. Tony Arterburn, the wisest of all the wolves. Let's start off with the 5 G's, and then we can go over to Mr. Trump banning more news outlets from the White House. I, I know, uh, Hegseth did the same with the Pentagon at one point. I think as soon as they came into power, they, they kicked CNN out, right, and replaced them with OAN or somebody, or Newsmax or something. I don't know. Um, but the, the pattern continues regardless. $5,000— can you use $5,000? What will you do when you see these $5,000 extra in your account? You're like, oh my God, there's an extra $5,000 in my bank account.

4:15 How did it get there? And, you know, then you see, courtesy of Donald J. Trump, what's the reaction? Well, if you're tracking in, um, ounces of gold, you go back about, uh, 80 years and that's, uh, $35 that you get instead of $5,000. So, I mean, uh, that's what's happened to our dollar. I, I, I'm gonna take the, the Doge, uh, rebate plus the tariff rebate plus the $5,000, uh, bribe Yes, vote bribe. And I'm going to put those together. I think that'd be a great investment. Unfortunately, it will all total zero because you will never see the $5,000 either, even if you do take the MAGA bribe. And I think that's where we— I think we are, we are end-stage, uh, democracy, if you want to put it that way.

5:00 Um, I think it was Alexander Hamilton that said that democracies were as short in their lifespans as they were violent in their deaths. That's why the founders didn't want a democracy. That's why they wanted a constitutional republic. That's why we're framed that way. And every time you hear the word and they use the, the, the mass voting thing, um, this is bribery. And of course, Trump's using that. And whether or not it'll come true, I— it's very low probability. I mean, I'm almost— we're in agreeance that's pretty much a zero, right? I mean, it's not like you're never going to see that rebate. Oh yeah, no, I mean, we're just— we're arguing about fictional, fictional things, but I think that's just where we are.

5:43 I mean, it does turn some heads. People, wow, that's, that's crazy, you know, we're gonna get $5,000 just like we got none of the other rebates. Uh, we're, we're in a bad fix economically, you know. The, the Federal Reserve just raised rates against Trump's protest. I don't know if you're following me this, but like Trump nominated, uh, Walsh to head the Federal Reserve after he, I mean, badgered and harassed Jerome Powell, even putting in criminal indictments to the Federal Reserve for like over— cost overruns on the, the wing of the building they were putting together. I mean, this is unprecedented. So he nominates a new guy because he wants lower rates, he needs the weaker dollar, we got to keep the casino open. And unfortunately, his war of choice in the Middle East with Iran, with the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, has driven the prices of energy up so high That it's causing the economy to overheat, not because it's doing great, but because the cost of everything. So the Fed raised rates, and the reason they do that, it, you know, contracts them— in theory, contracts the money supply, can slow down inflation. So we're not, you know, just having a, a great time here economically.

6:51 And you offered the $5,000. People could really use the $5,000 because now we have diesel prices at a record high. Never seen that. I mean, I, I drive a diesel pickup. So now, I mean, it's like $6+ a gallon. And in some places, like you go out in California, it's $9.99 a gallon. And the machines don't even track that. The machines aren't built— the meters on them to show, kind of like the, the Y2K thing where there's not enough zeros, you know, to roll over. And they, they don't know how to— they're gonna have to put new, you know, measurement systems up there on the pumps to show the new prices of gas for Trump's war of choice. So All of this is pointing to me just something that goes back, you know, the, the old Greek philosophers that talk about, uh, democracy and how it works, uh, is a, you know, as it swings towards tyranny.

7:40 And I, I want— wasn't it de Tocqueville, uh, Don, that talked about, you know, a democracy, a republic can last so long as until people discover they can vote themselves something from the treasury? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I think that's, that's where we are. Unfortunately, you can't even really depend on that because Trump lies. I mean, it's, it's, uh, the grifter-in-chief is gonna— is not gonna give you your $5,000, unfortunately, even if you do, uh, succumb to the bribe. Well, you made a really good point, several good points, but I'm, I'm going to highlight one because we've been following this here on America Unplugged since the beginning because I personally am very interested in money. So if they want to give me money, you know, even, even though I don't agree with anything that they're doing, but if they're going to send me money, I'm not going to give it away, right? I'm not going to say you take it back, or I'm going to— I'm not going to say somebody else take it. I am going to take that money. So right now, as, as I— as far as I can tell, I am owed about, about $15,000 by the Trump administration, give or take, right? Maybe more. It might be about 17. It— I might be underestimating the amount of money he's promised the American people at this point. I want my tariffs, I want my Doge, I want my $5,000 now, and whatever else he, he promised. I think there was something else that I'm forgetting, but those are 3 things and probably something else that I'm forgetting that he promised money that we have not seen, you know.

9:08 So I, I want my freaking 20 grand. I want— I want it, okay? Like, I am owed this money. The American people are owed this money. So that's $15 grand with interest. If we take a loan out in the— from the bank, we're gonna— we're gonna be charged interest on this. I think we should do the same on the money that is owed to us from the Trump administration. So that's $20 grand for BRV. If all of you want to sit down and say, no, we're good, you know, whatever, whatever, that's on you. Send me your money. I'm— if 4 of you send me your $20 grand, I'll be in a really good place, you know. So that's what I want. I want my money, Donald Trump. Where is my money? You promised me money and I don't have it, and I want it now. Don Jeffries, what's up?

9:53 Yeah, no, certainly. I, I think that, uh, this may be the way to get a lot of us to vote. Uh, I, you know, if they, you know, they show me the money and, uh, yeah, they're all terrible. So I'll vote for any of them. If John— if they resurrect John McCain, I'd vote for him for $5,000. I mean, it doesn't matter who. I mean, that's more money than I've gotten from my government my entire life. Somebody said on, on the chat that that's about the average property, personal property tax, and mine's more than that, but that's pretty much what we're at. And Trump hasn't talked about eliminating that. I'm looking at Jackson T. Barrett's comments. Jackson, why don't you come on my show You know, when I have a show Friday, I put— I invite people in the second half. You can come on and say whatever you want.

10:37 I don't know why. I don't know what you're talking about half the time. Just do it. You're invited to I Protest. Yeah. Every Friday. Why are you sitting there like a— 5 PM Eastern. Yeah. Listen, like a lumpy— I, you know, well, I'm, I'm, I'm, uh, I don't interrupt people. So what do you— and, you know, but I was agreeing with what he was saying there. So, but I, you know, this is, and I, I think it's unfair to the Republicans who are loyally voting that why should the Democrats who vote against them be paid $5,000? That doesn't seem right. So, you know, I don't think that's— I don't know how you're going to determine who voted what, but I mean, the whole thing is just so stupid. But if you look online, his cult, the people, what's left of it— and it is a cult now because that's the only people left— they believe it. Sounds good to me.

11:20 Everybody complaining, you're complaining the Democrats want to throw money around all the time, but you're not going to get the money. It's not here. I'm all for giving because the money— the government's a joke. Whatever they give me, I don't care. I tell people Take advantage of anything you can. Absolutely. Get any government perk. It's all a joke, and it's, it's all counterfeit money anyhow. If you can get anything out of this crappy government, get it. Don't sit there and stand on principle. Well, that's not right. None of it's right. Yeah, but they actually believe that. And they, they, the same people, they're posting all this stuff about the gas prices. And now the new tact is that, uh, I'm, I'm willing to pay a little bit more for gas so that Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon. Well, I— yeah, well, I'm not, and I don't think very many people are. So that's where they're at, and that's what they've made. They've rebuilt MAGA to that.

12:10 That, and I guess painting the reflecting pool and the big beautiful ballroom. That's what it's become. Peter Sikach talked about, yeah, this insane weapons sale to Israel. Yeah, at the same time, again, he's propping up even more sales to Israel. Uh, the— again, it's just so disappointing that— and it's what's most disappointing is that he still has any support at all. And again, the other side is horrible, so, you know, you want to talk about them, they're, they're no, uh, you know, they're no winners either, as, uh, as Rodney would say. But, um, yeah, I, I don't, I don't know. Uh, but this $5,000 thing, as BRV said, we're supposed to get a $5,000, and that was the first check. Because first of all, Doge was supposed to continue and go from agency to agency. So Elon Musk said, for starters, because the whole idea was this was supposed to be a form of reparations to the American taxpayer for all this waste, fraud, and abuse they were going to discover. Well, he stopped after one agency, and so we might have gotten $100,000 each or something, who knows. I mean, my estimation would be at least.

13:15 So we didn't even get the $5,000, and they stopped talking about it. The tariff thing, and Trump said again, I don't know if you heard, Tony, again he said once again that we can eliminate income taxes and replace them with tariffs. He was saying that last year. Sure, said it 3 years ago, 5 years ago. Yeah, yeah. And he— so he still talks about it. And he said— I was watching a documentary, anybody who wants to watch it on Netflix, and Netflix has some good things here or there. It's called American Factory, was done several years ago, but it just showed like one factory closing, GM plant, and like they showed one worker there that, you know, a ton, you know, very integrated, uh, grew. One woman there that was making— talked about she was making more than $29 an hour. Again, this is 7, 8, 9, 10 years ago. When the Chinese company bought it out, she was making $12. And that, that's the reality. And that's the stuff Trump was supposed to change.

14:11 Yes, sir. Yeah, that— I'm with you, Karen. Yeah, there's lots of reasons why we take— there's no reason for anybody to stand on ceremony, take it. But, uh, Trump has still not done anything that industry I'm all for tariffs, but not when they're not coupled with any— he has no industry to protect. The whole thing is that's protectionism, to protect— we have no industry to protect. So there, it's just, it's ridiculous. And they're talking about how they've been success— I don't know how they've been successful. How are they? So I don't know at this point. I obviously, I can't defend Trump anymore, but I will definitely accept whatever he gives, $5,000. And if, if we get up to all those different rebates, I'll gladly accept them. If he pays me $5,000 more, I'll vote for him again, or I'll claim I do. How does he know if I voted for him or not? But the whole thing is just ridiculous.

14:58 Hey man, listen, I, I, I agree, Don, man. If, if the, the ship is, is going down, everything is getting harder for Americans no matter what the statistics say, right? It was the same thing with Joe Biden. Everything was getting harder. They were saying one thing, Americans were experiencing another. Right, same thing. Um, take the money. Get your— you get yourself and your family in a position where you can— first of all, this is all fictional. We're not getting any money, okay? But you know, in the event that you did get some money, you know, you— I mean, there's a lot of people that say we're going to stand on principle, and then when they get that money, they forget all about that shit, right? So, so there's that. So I don't really believe the people that say, oh, I'm not taking it because it's socialism or whatever.

15:50 People put $5,000 in your account, you're going to take it and you're going to spend it, and you probably need it, right? So, so there's already in arrears though. Even if you got the $5,000, you've already spent that on inflation. Inflation is insidious. I mean, it's a tax, it's a stealth tax, it's a silent weapon for a quiet war to rob you. Jesus, that's already going on anyway. So even if you got the $5,000, if you put it against— like, you actually use math and overlaid it, you already spent it. I mean, yeah, maybe it's a rebate back, but it's like a tax return, so you're not even going to get it on top of all the stuff that's already— you can at least leave me with an illusion that I got the $5,000. You don't have to do that to me. No, I'm sorry. I, I feel like, you remember the, the John Cusack movie Better Off Dead? This is a deep reference, you know, like early '80s or mid-'80s when he goes, give me my $2. I want, right? Yeah, that's what we need. Uh, maybe we do a class action lawsuit, uh, against this administration, like, to get all the rebates we were promised and all the stuff that was supposed to be true. I mean, it, it is a breach of promises.

16:55 Angel Blue talks about, uh, maybe there's, uh, right, there's fine print in the writing, what we're agreeing to. I don't think we're signing anything to vote for it, but yeah, that we certainly have to watch that. Angel, I sent you, I emailed you the, uh I had to take it down because there was too much COVID talk on there, so I took it down from YouTube and, uh, I sent it to you, the America Unplugged link. So I emailed it to you, so you should have that. Oh, that's a, that's a, that's a good thing done. Um, that's what it is, it's 40 acres and a mule. That's what they're doing. If, if, uh, you should, you should start a program, like if you need to take the, the show down and somebody else wants it, you can email it or whatever.

17:35 If for subscribers, if subscribers want it, you can email it to them. I don't know, it's something real quick that Don touched on. He's talking about supporting tariffs, and I, I mean, gosh, guys, if you go back in my life and like even when I was in politics, like running for office, that's just something I truly believed in. I was an economic nationalist. Trump has beat that out of me. I can't be the only one. Um, and I think that maybe is the whole purpose of him, is that abandoning nationalistic or traditionalistic, traditional beliefs, because now I'm just completely libertarian. I just like, I just do what, you know, as far as, uh, trade is concerned, I just— no barriers. Uh, I used to believe in strategic, um, you know, economic nationalism, tariffs. I, I think it works, but I don't think it works, you know, because it's been so bastardized. So I can't be— I think that's probably a— well, you're right. And Trump, Trump probably ruined that and so many things for so many people, because we— how long did we wait for somebody to, uh, to criticize NAFTA? I mean, I remember in the '90s I was arguing with all these, you know, I'm a community college dropout and I was arguing with these people that graduated from big universities and they're talking down to me.

18:41 And I said, you know how stupid this is? Well, you don't understand. Yeah, I don't understand. Right. I'm one of the unwashed masses, but obviously NAFTA blew up in our face. It was horrible. All these deals were terrible. And that was one of the many things that Trump ran. He caught a lot of people on the left from that. Because again, if you watch that movie American Factory and you watch the other documentaries like that, you see what an impact this kind of stuff had— these kind of decisions had on working-class people. People don't realize how much money people in those factories used to make. That woman, she clearly didn't have a college degree. She might even graduated from high school, I don't know. And she was making $29 an hour and change probably, uh, 10 years ago or more.

19:21 So which is, I don't know what, maybe $35 an hour now. Decent. And I'm sure she had much better benefits because again, they had a trade union. They eviscerated the unions. People on the right that don't like unions. Yeah, I don't like the mob influence either, but they mean higher wages and better benefits. I know. And, and, uh, so for people to, to not understand that the betrayal here of Trump, he doesn't talk about that. Now all he talks about are the tariffs, but there he's isolating them. Somebody pointed out in the chat, you can't have tariffs. Tariffs don't work if you don't have any domestic industry. We're not building anything. It's ridiculous. Yeah, I, I just put that up. I forgot who it was though. Um, speaking of libertarian, um, I have a theory, but let's, let's flesh it out a little bit. Um, Trump says he has control of Greenland, right? Let me, let me pull this up, um, and we could talk about it real quick. Hold on, let me take this comment down. And I'll put this up. What's up, buddy? Just like he has control of the Strait of Hormuz.

20:29 Just like he has control of the strait. I mean, I, I don't know, I— this might be legit from what they're saying. I have no idea. Uh, it says President Trump announces complete and permanent— I mean, this sounds— who knows, right? Who knows? Winning American security, um, control over Greenland and, and, uh Excludes, uh, any adversary. Uh, Greenland. And then what else is saying here? Hold on for a second, let me see. Historic deal with Greenland. Well, he's saying he has full control. This is what he's saying. Uh, this is, uh, Donald Trump's official post. Um, now I wanted to get your thoughts on this, Tony, because I know the whole deal with, uh, with, uh, Pat Buchanan and, and what happened here.

21:16 I got you, bud. Hold on. Thank you. The, you know, Pat Buchanan has been talking about Greenland for some time, and, and this isn't a new idea, right? They've been talking about the, um, why it's needed for geographic protection, right? Uh, a military strategic point to defend against, uh, Russia and China. But there's a new wrinkle in all of this, and I think it's, it's, uh more influential at this point, in my opinion, than the strategic defensive aspect of the whole deal with Greenland. Um, there is the potential, and I think it's a high potential, definitely under Trump.

22:00 But if Gavin Newsom gets in or any of these other people, it's still happening, in my opinion. Like, nothing is going to change here. They They want to set up a, a quote-unquote freedom city in Greenland. They want to do this. Uh, uh, it's called— they're called freedom cities, network cities. There's a whole bunch of stuff. It's this, this one company named Praxis. The dude that runs it is, uh, Dryden— Dryden Brown, if I remember correctly. And, um, he personally tried to buy Greenland with some money. He said, we're gonna buy it, but Peter Thiel actively contributes to this project, and he contributes to a lot of these quote-unquote freedom cities throughout the world. There's one in Honduras, right, Prospera, that, uh, Peter Thiel has, has given money to. But he's invested in Praxis through another company.

22:57 There's a, there's a company that gives money to Praxis, and Peter Thiel gives money to that company, right? And they fund these independent cities. That build, build themselves as libertarian because, you know, all restrictions are down, right? There are no barriers to a lot of things, right? But I think that's like a Trojan horse. I, I— it sounds appealing to a lot of people when you hear the libertarian aspect of it, right? Because there's a lot of things that are personally appealing to, to that philosophy. Um, but I think it's more of a neo-reactionary city that we're looking at. Right? And it's, it's being presented under the gaze of libertarianism, but in reality, you know, it's neo-reactionary.

23:39 And sure, there's a lot of, a lot of restrictions that, that are— and barriers, you know, that, that are— that have been brought down as a result, but it's only for Peter Thiel and his ilk to be able to do whatever the hell they want. It doesn't necessarily apply to you, to you or to us. And, and it's going to be incredibly selective to get into these cities. This guy, uh, um, Dryden Brown has compared what's going on, what he wants to happen in Greenland, to Hyperborea, for one. Okay, so this is what these people are thinking. And if you think that, you know, because you're white you'll be able to get in there, it's a specific IQ and it's also an age restriction. So if, if, uh, if you're older, you're not getting in according to this guy. And they— this is going to happen at some point under the Trump administration. If, if— I mean, they are greasing the skates. J.D. Vance is the Vice President of the United States. If something happens to Donald Trump, he will be the President of the United States, and then Peter Thiel is the President of the United States, period, point blank. There's nothing that J.D.

24:43 Vance won't do for Peter Thiel. He's completely altered his character. He's a totally different guy. So it could definitely happen. Under Donald Trump, and, and the, the skids will be greased heavily in order to happen. But don't, don't think that when Gavin Newsom gets in, or any of these other fools, when they get in, that it's going to get any better. Some things will change, but these people will still get what they want. We got problems with this, I think, given that they're actively trying to create new ways of governance in which they are the monarchs. They are the kings, not us. It doesn't get any better. We're trading one thing for another, and it's not a good thing. That's what I'm saying about Greenland right now. I, I, I, I don't like the talk of Greenland. I don't like any of it. And in particular for this, I think this is the main driver for it. There's also an aspect of defense, I think, Tony. I think that's still a thing, but I think this is the main driver for it personally. What's up, Tony? Well, it may be outdated for defense, and I I learned about this years and years ago reading Pat Buchanan's book from 1999 called A Republic, Not an Empire.

25:50 By the way, he wrote that book and he was sabotaged by Donald Trump in the 2000 Reform Party election. All Pat wanted to do was get into the debates. Trump ruined that, just, I guess, on purpose, just coming in and, uh, completely throwing it into chaos because of this book. And then he called, uh, Buchanan a Hitler lover. That's what he called him because he wrote an America First blueprint. Now you fast forward all these years, Greenland was a part of that by being more strategic. Now I don't know that what that— that this is part of that. I don't think that the strategy of America First, uh, via Pat Buchanan is part of what we're looking at here with Greenland. It could have something to do with, uh, minerals. There could be some, like you just mentioned, the Freedom Cities or some sort of tech experiment by one of these deranged assholes, something like that. I, I don't buy any of the strategic stuff anymore, even though it does make perfect sense. But we're being so non-strategic everywhere else, uh, being so vulnerable, um, you know, pulling our Pacific Fleet to support Operation Epstein Fury, you know, in Iran. So I, I don't know. Um, I think all things are on the table, and you're absolutely right, Billy. Whatever goes on with Trump could take something and brand it, but this must be behind the scenes and in the works before him anyway with whatever's happening in Greenland. There must be— they're probably putting some sort of, of branding on it that is not what it actually is. And that's where I think that's probably where we should have caution

27:21 when we're discussing whatever Greenland is. It probably isn't even what I thought it was, uh, was just a strategic initiative, right? And I think you're right, Tony. Uh, Don, what are your thoughts, brother? Well, if Pat Buchanan was concerned with Greenland, that's— I mean, I didn't agree. I, I liked Pat Buchanan for most things. You know, Pat Buchanan never, you know, always believed Oswald killed JFK. So, you know, he certainly was far from perfect. But, uh, if he was distracted by Greenland, again, that's not an America First position. And that's why I object to— I object to any of this foreign stuff. I don't care about Greenland. I don't care about, uh— I, I feel for the Palestinians, but I don't care about what's happening in the Middle East as far as— unless we're supporting it. America First means what it says, and Trump is not doing that. Obviously he's doing everything but that. And this $5,000 payment, which of course will never happen, that would be about the only America First thing he ever did. But, uh, yeah, I think I don't even understand the issues in terms of Greenland. And, uh, but somebody in the chat talked about— I didn't know Roger Stone, my, my friend that I was on his show recently, again, out of nowhere he called I don't know, that was bizarre. But, um, he said, I know we disagree on everything. I said, yeah, yeah, we do. And he said, but we had a nice conversation about the JFK assassination. But, uh, Trump definitely did his best to destroy Pat Buchanan. But people need to, to not forget that when Buchanan— he stole a lot of Buchanan's ideas. He stole his entire anti-NAFTA thing and trade deal stuff, and, uh, from Buchanan.

28:50 And yet he tried to stop him from getting the Reform Party nomination of, uh, Ross Perot. And, and that infighting is what killed the Reform Party. We had a third party. We had what looked like a viable third party in Ross Perot's Reform Party. What happened after Buchanan got that nomination? They claimed he got 1% of the vote or something, which is probably fake, but whatever. That was it. Reform Party hasn't been heard from since. Jesse Ventura was the only, uh, politician to ever get elected as governor of Minnesota. He really didn't do any Reform Party stuff after he got out of office, and he started getting radical, but, uh, I don't know, man. It's not very, um, as always, things, uh, things are not looking up here. I like to come on sometime and have some good news, but I just don't see any on the horizon there.

29:35 Well, I'll join you with that. I, I don't see very much of, of this, uh, getting better. I, I want, I want some hope. Give me some hope. Oh, well, what, what, what word spells— obviously a fantasy football guy keeps talking about the Chiefs-Broncos game script. Well, you know, they're all People are coming around to my way of thinking, man. In the 1970s, I was alone talking about the games being fixed. Now more than half of X thinks that. Just— you see the Michigan-Western Michigan game where they just gave them an extra play at the end so they could win? It was ridiculous. And they had a Hail Mary. I mean, the clock clearly ran out. But yeah, these, these things are— why people think they wouldn't be fixed when there's how many billions of dollars are involved with gambling and betting lines and everything. And me, like a heroin addict, still paying attention to it. Who knows why, dude. Puka Nacua is questionable, brother. Uh, don't scare me like that. That's a problem for me. I, I have him on my team. He's, he's on my, on my keeper team, on my, uh, what do you call that thing, my, uh, you know, my keeper league. There you go. He's on there. Please don't scare me about Puka Nacua. I love fantasy football. It's fantastic. Do not take that away from me too.

30:45 If you know something about fantasy football, Tony, that, that's gonna further degrade my, my entertainment here, please just don't mention it. I don't want to know. I want to live in my ignorance. Have you thought about— this is the extent of my knowledge— have you thought about adding Roger Staubach? Or maybe, maybe Emmitt Smith? What's Emmitt Smith? Michael Irvin? Hell yeah. That's when my knowledge of any sports cuts off. It's sometime in around the time The Matrix came out. It wasn't for fantasy football. And, uh, DraftKings and all these horrible betting things which have caused so many young people to lose tons of money because it's so easy. You can just go on your app and they, they bet things and they think they're going to win, right? Uh, if it wasn't for that, the NFL would be dead. The NBA was— is already dead. They're just corporate sponsors keeping it alive. The only thing keeping the NFL afloat is fantasy football and this betting stuff. So you can bet on everything— who's going to score the first touchdown. People are betting on the coin toss at the Super Bowl. I mean, just insane. Decadent stuff. But, uh, you know, this is— well, you know why, Donnie. You wrote Survival of the Richest and you understand, like, we become a gambling economy because you can't make anything off traditional investments anymore. Like, that, you know, you're— our grandparents, especially your grandparents, Donnie, I mean, going back, um, and your parents even, uh, if you go back, if you were able to work and you saved, you could retain value. That's what a lot of the craziness you know, I know this is my wheelhouse, but a lot of the insanity with our, our culture, what's happening with,

32:16 you know, like the sports betting, what's happening with entertainment, what's happening in politics, it's because we don't have sound money. And so there is no basis for any sort of exactitude. There's like, there is no more math. And so basically there's nothing is real. So everything is on the table. And it's become, it's like, you know, 5 years ago when you had All these people getting like their— we did get checks under COVID-1984. Like there was some checks you got. Yeah. And people took those checks and they bought like, uh, GameStop. And they did that. They bought GameStop stock because it was, it was shorted by these big hedge funds and they wanted to hurt the hedge funds. People literally held that stock to screw over the 1%, which is— yeah. What I, I, I know, I, I think that in, in addition to this, it gets to the underlying problem I talked about in Survival of the Rich is people aren't being paid enough. So that's why you have so many people with the get-rich-quick schemes. The lottery, the lottery is popular because everybody dreams of that. Even though it's, you get more of a chance of getting struck by lightning 8 times in a day or something than winning the big one. But everybody dreams of that because they know that no matter how they can work there and work 2 jobs their entire lives, and they're never going to be able to get ahead really.

33:31 And it's, they're not being paid enough so that you have that. You have betting on sports. I know so many people, I'm not making any money, but hey, I'm, you know, I'm doing good on betting and they don't understand that. These things are rigged so that you have to lose 80% of the time so they keep winning. And, and again, people are being fooled into that— the lottery, all these things— because they know there's no path to upward, or even like you said, security. In the past, when you had a job, at least when you retired, you got at least got a gold watch. You had a traditional pension, and, uh, Social Security supplemented it. You were— now that's not the case anymore. Pensions have been eliminated. People aren't getting paid enough. AI is going to come in. Who knows what jobs will even be left?

34:13 So this is the hope people have. That's why you have so many media influencers doing what we're doing and, you know, much more successful minority of them trying to get clicks and trying to make, you know, like the Cast Me Outside girl and all these crazy people that somehow made a lot of money doing it. Or OnlyFans. That's, that's the hope for young people. That's why I want to be a media— they can't play sports, so they'll— or maybe can't make it in Hollywood. They're going to be immediate. It's all because we don't have enough money. We're not being paid. You can't get a good job— is what, for a very small group of people? 80% of the people are being underpaid, correct? That's my premise anyhow. It's gonna be— and that's only gonna be more and more of a truism, you know. Um, for the audience, and something to think about, let this rest in your subconscious. I like to do this every once in a while on my show. You know, gasoline has stayed a dime a gallon our entire lives. If you go back to 1964, but right before, uh, you know, Lyndon Johnson decided to take the silver out of our coinage, gas was about a dime a gallon.

35:12 Don can back me up on this. Now if you fast forward all these years, if you take a silver dime, it's worth about $5. Okay, so retail maybe $6. So maybe a dime for a diesel gallon now. So that's, that's the static issue with like real value and how crazy our, our currency has gotten. The gasoline didn't change, the silver didn't change, it's your currency that changed. But everything else is a side argument of nothingness. Like, you can argue about politics and balancing the budget and all this other stuff, but unless you have some sort of exactitude with your currency, you get all these problems that we get now. And you cannot be paid enough because you can't outpace inflation. It's, it's, that's the, that's the magic trick that has really, uh, come close to coming close to destroying Western civilization, in my opinion. Very good, very good.

36:04 All right, uh, Donald Trump has banned CNN and MSNOW and Politico from the White House. I don't know what triggered this. I think it was probably Epstein, uh, to some degree. I think he was being asked about Epstein or something like this, and he was like, everybody has to go. Ago. Um, it's all fake news and they suck, so they can't be here. Uh, this is fascism 101. Very, very simple. Uh, whether you agree with the outlets or not is not the point. The point is that he is banning, uh, journalists from covering the White House, being inside the White House, and being able to ask him questions that he doesn't like. I mean, the, the relationship between, um, uh, the government and the press should be an adversarial one to begin with.

36:47 Right? We're supposed to— not that we're, uh, journalists here, but I'm just saying in general, we're supposed to ask questions that make them uncomfortable, questions that they need to answer, right, for the American people. We shouldn't be making them— giving them cushy passes like, great, great hair, sir Donald Trump, or saying, what is it, great job you did with whatever. And that's what he wants to hear, you know. So those are the people that currently have access to the White House. Anybody that challenges his narrative or challenges anything he says, first off, he gets belligerent and very, very, uh, uh, uh, offensive, you know, to, uh, to the people that, that are asking him the questions. And now he's banned them all together. Angry Tiger sent me the, the, um, the article, and I was like, didn't this happen already?

37:34 Because, because Pete Hegseth did it in, in the, in the Pentagon, you know. Um, so this has been an ongoing assault on journalism by the Trump administration, uh, further degrading, uh, what makes us America here, you know, because this is what happens in third world countries, man. This is what happened over in, um, in El Salvador, right? This is what, what happened over with Viktor Orbán. This is, this is what happens. This is the script. Anyway, go ahead, sir. Go ahead, Tony. Well, first of all, I remember the first time I came into contact with the press as someone who I originally had articles written about me when I was really young, you know, going back to my powerlifting days. And that was really friendly, like sportswriters and things like that.

38:16 And I dealt with the press. But when I decided I was going to get into politics at 32, I had my first run-in with the Dallas Morning News, which is the big paper here in Dallas. They called me. I had a great conversation with this young lady, and we, we talked for about 45 minutes. And then she published this terrible hit piece on me. I mean, it was like, it was not the conversation that we had. And even the title of the article was, uh, Army Veteran with PTSD Takes on Local Rep. I mean, like I never mentioned those words. I just talked about being a combat veteran and some of the challenges. I mean, they, they did an over-the-top job trying to kill off— because I had some momentum. I was ranked like in the top 100 of digital influencers in politics in the nation at the time. I did that myself. Wow.

39:00 Anyway, they— this young lady just completely— and I emailed her, I was like, what's— question mark, what is this? You know, but I realized what it was. Um, but, you know, months later I had a chance to use the same outlet for another piece that was positive, and they took it. So it's kind of like you work with them, you understand what they are. It's a thin-skinned thing. It is fascistic, like you mentioned. Um, the press has a job to do. I'm— I assume that this is a harbinger of things to come. Yeah, because even the Nixon administration, uh, with their enemies list still kept their enemies close. Like those people, you know, Jack Anderson from the New York Times and all, like those people were still like in the sphere of the White House and talking to Kissinger and all this stuff. Trump's isolating himself. Remember where he got where he was is because he would talk to anybody. If you remember back in 2015, 2016, before, you know, the first administration, he would sit down with any outlet and it was all the time and he got a lot of coverage. Um, so this is probably just part of the, the, the life cycle of whatever, you know, MAGA. And then the mere fact that I didn't know this until Thomas Massie said it the other day, like, we're— this is a paper tiger in a lot of ways, what we're looking at with the Trump administration. Thomas Massie mentioned the other day that, you know, they really can't truly change the Department of Defense to the Department of War without Congress's authorization. And I didn't know that. Like, that has not been a thing.

40:27 Like, it's, it's just— it— when the next administration comes in, they'll just take the stickers off, they'll take the placards off and redo it. It'll be the Department of Defense again. And that's how temporary all this stuff is. And you're already talking about a lame duck presidency that's going to be mired in, uh, a blue wave, if you— whatever the hell that means. But it's coming. Like, if there's any semblance of, of legitimacy to our elections, then that will be a thing. The, the economy sucks too bad, the gas prices are too high, and uncertainty is too high, you're going to get something else to oppose it. So this is a harbinger of things to come. The press is, um, the, the press can destroy you. Um, that's their job, you know. And a lot of them are, um, well, that their job is— they've kind of obviously neglected their job to what their true job is, is to get to the truth.

41:16 But you got to understand what the beast is, what you're looking at. I, I got to learn that at at 32. I was, uh, I didn't know the Dallas Morning News was a medical institution until like, like they diagnosed me with something, which is, uh, you know, I guess it's infamous. Go ahead, finish up. No, go ahead. That's, that's about it. I just think it's a, it's probably par for the course. Don Jeffries. Well, it would take somebody who has deteriorated as much as Trump to make people— I didn't know, I didn't— MS Now, that's how I had a clue it's not MSNBC anymore. I didn't know they changed the the name. Okay, but, uh, regardless, these outlets are state-controlled press, so it's hilarious. I think this is, uh, it's just smoke and mirrors. And they get people— get the left— the left, you know, when I was on the left, we cared about free speech, and we had organizations with free speech in them, ACLU and everything. Now they don't care about it at all. So it's laughable that they would be upset about not even being there, uh, because they're— for years they're, they're like trained puppets, you know. They, they don't ask any hard questions of any president. They never have. I mean, with Trump, every question seems hard because that's his shtick, you know, that's his act, just to get irated when anybody questions him about anything. So I, I don't look at it as much of anything because I don't think— I'm for you. First of all, they never let— if, if Trump was really an alternative type president, then he would let people like American Free Press, what I write for, he would let those kind of people have White House credentials. But he's not going to do that. He never has. He's never let any alternative people in there except

42:46 for, uh, Who did he— some— was it Joe Rogan? I don't know, some— somebody was, you know, and not my idea of alternative. But, uh, so I don't look at this much of anything. It's certainly— I'm against censorship, but we don't have a— we don't have a press— we don't have a free press. So yeah, the premise I think is, is stated incorrectly. You have, you have, you know, this, this actor now playing, uh, Emperor Hirohito or whatever, Genghis Khan or whatever he's trying to play his new act as. And you have a— you have TASS, basically. You have TASS and Pravda sitting there who are acting outraged that they can't ask questions. I mean, whoever's over there will ask the same stupid questions. You just— you just won't get him to say it's fake news, you're out of here, and leave, and all the other drama he does, whatever. It's— it says much ado about nothing, as Shakespeare said. Well, um, uh, uh, I think Caitlin Collins Uh, has pushed back pretty hard against, against the president.

43:47 Uh, against this one, against Trump, sure. Because yeah, against Trump, that's the one we're talking about right now, you know, right? Um, I think, I think they've— she's pushed back, uh, hard. I think she's an example of what I think. And I think you're right, I think a lot of people went in there and gave him softball questions because you could have asked them so much, right? There was so much to, to, to push back against. And I think as he becomes a lame duck president— and I want to say that we've been saying this here for the better part of 2 years that Trump was going to become a lame duck president, and people had visceral reactions to when that was being reported here on America Unplugged. And, and now it's a reality. It's gonna happen. He's going to be the lame— as soon as November comes, I would make the argument that he is already that, but when November comes around, he is going to be a lame duck president. And you're gonna see even the most loyal MAGAs start turning on him, meaning in the government, not the cult. The, the people, the pit of vipers that he surrounded himself with, those are the people that are going to start turning on him. And they already have to a degree. Look at Tucker Carlson.

44:52 What's the difference? What's up? I'm sorry to interrupt. What's up? What's the difference between them writing articles critical of you outside of the White House press corps or inside it? Like, what's the difference? They're still going to write them. I mean, if you look at the the, the press in general through the Biden administration, it was fawning, you know, like most of it was just, I can't miss the— remember Joe Scarborough? It's the best Biden ever. He's cogent. I mean, all this stuff like this is, I can't believe how, you know, how sharp he is. And he's just standing there, you know, look like— and, uh, but the press was like, this is the best ever and I love it and he's so great. And I just remember thinking, this is— you just delegitimize yourself. Even given that, to just rem— to have a ban on it just makes you look weak because they're going to write the same stuff regardless. And when the next administration comes, and it most likely will be a Democrat, there'll be no negative coverage. None.

45:47 I mean, you get Fox News. I mean, I guess, and that'll be a thing. Um, but it's, it's, it is the— it speaks to the insanity of our times that Trump does pretty much everything that the establishment wants him to do that is detrimental to liberty and freedom. And then there's still critical press. I don't understand that. Like, he's doing every— he gave you the great lockdown. I mean, he gave you everything you wanted with the COVID-1984 and all that stuff too. I mean, it's, it's foreign policy. We've not brought the troops home. We didn't bring the jobs back. You know, inflation's out of control. I mean, it's all the stuff that the establishment wants. So, you know, the, the press thing, I think it's just an added deal about ego. This is, um, ego politics? I think, I think it's important to have direct access, um, to the president, to be present, uh, while he's, while he's giving real-time, uh, you know, um, comments or whatever, or talking about laws or whatever it is he's talking about. I think it's important to have some press that stands in opposition to, to, to what he's doing, right, or to what the administration wants to carry out. Live in person to challenge him in real time. You know, when, when they have time to regroup or sanitize a message, there's that, right? But then the, the press, the press have to do their part, of course, and challenge him, which I don't think they've been doing well as of— as recently they have because of he's becoming a lame duck. So people

47:17 are less afraid of him at this point, reporters. So they're stepping it up, they're being more more, uh, adversarial towards him, more, you know, they're willing to push back on him. Remember that, that last— I forgot that he did an interview not too long ago where he got up and left. A couple of months ago, he just got up and left. I think that was, uh, Meet the Press or somebody. I forget what it was. Um, but it's important to, to have that type of access to the president for those reasons. He needs to be held accountable in real time, you know, and, and, uh, challenged in real time. And, and there needs to be a variety of people in there that have different viewpoints so they can capture, uh, what went on there in their, um, with their scope, right? So it doesn't just become one narrative coming out of the White House. So that's what— that's why I think it's important that it— that does happen. Will negative press continue to happen? Of course, right?

48:11 Well, we hope so, you know, we want that, you know. But, um, but yeah, that's why I think it's important, and that's why he banned them. He doesn't want to put up with it. He doesn't want the questions. He wants to be asked questions that glorify him, that put him up on a level of godhood. That's what the man wants. He doesn't want anybody challenging any narratives he puts out. Yeah, and I think we need to— Angel Blue in the comments mentioned the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act that happened back in 2012. I'm sure, Don, you know what that is, the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act, uh, where basically we legalized propaganda again. It was, um, revised where, you know, these outlets can run uh, state-sponsored propaganda. So who knows? Factions fighting factions inside of our— it's all a show. There's never— if, if there was really truth— Peter talked about— I didn't— I guess I kind of remember Infowars briefly, I guess, under Trump, was very briefly in the White House, but that didn't last very long.

49:06 And, uh, really, as loyal as Alex Jones was to him, Trump should have had him up front the entire time. But, uh, they, they, they should open it up to all these. And I, I, I remember when Spotlight, you know, back in the '80s and '90s, they had a far bigger circulation than the Washington Times. I mean, hundreds of thousands more. They just completely suppressed it. And the Reagan administration and all the, uh, Bush administration, they refused to give them credentials. They tried for years because they didn't want to take a chance on a real reporter asking a real question. You, you— Trump gets some of those questions because of I think some of these reporters, they're not all in on the act. So some of them really just hate him. And so they're, they're going to question him more aggressively than certainly they would have Biden or Clinton or something. But, uh, they're never going to ask it. You're not going to see anybody talk, grill him about the Epstein list. You know, sir, on this day, you know, you talked about the Epstein list and now you're calling it a hoax.

50:02 Why, why are you doing that? Yeah. And why don't you want that? Why don't— if you're— if you have nothing to— if you're— why don't you release it all? Yeah, but you're never going to get them to do that. You're not going to get them to show all the times he said about how stupid it would be to go to war with Iran and then doing it. You're not going to do that. And so it's, it's, you know, I, again, I think it's much ado about nothing. And everybody will complain, the left will get all excited, but these are CNN, MS Now, whatever they're calling it, Fox News has said these are all state-controlled media. They're just like TASS and Pravda. It's just the people are too dumb in America to realize that these are not outlets of free press. Yeah, and watch the pendulum swing to then when the next administration comes in, they'll get rid of any other— like, if it's a dissenting view of their administration, that'll happen too. Oh yeah, Fox News will be bad. Yeah, sure, sure. We'll get to be— we'll get to be witnesses to that. Although I feel like, like, act like, uh, I don't even think OAN is still a thing.

50:55 I don't— I don't even remember. But Newsmax, you know, InfoWars, they shouldn't be anywhere near the freaking White House. I'm sorry. There really isn't. I mean, there isn't really the equivalent of a right-wing media. Not really. It's faux. Like, you know, like real, right? Like a real one. Like a real— like, right, it actually has access. There isn't really— real conservatism doesn't exist. Doesn't exist. Yeah, right. So if that were to happen, that would be dope. That would, that would be dope. And I would co-sign it, and I would watch and listen and support and try— you know, we need legit alternatives. We, we don't need what we, what we currently have. White Wolf says that Trump a lame duck. You ain't seen nothing yet. I don't disagree with you.

51:38 I think he is a lame duck, but I think that's when he gets most dangerous. Correct. Um, you know, because, because he's going to, uh, to provide some, you know, entertaining moments, uh, coming up. And, uh, before we go to Russia, I want to address this guy here. Dark Alley Entertainment, how you doing? Uh, remember, um, the record remembers Billy thought 100% Kamala was going to win. Yeah, I did, I did, I did think she was going to win. I was hoping she was going to win because, uh, let the record hold 100%, I told you everything that happened if she didn't win, and it is happening. All right, so, um, give me credit for that too if you're going to give me credit for Kamala Harris. Um, let's talk about Russia real quick before we get up out of here. Um, So, uh, the European Union and NATO have gotten together. Article 4 is, uh, is, is a thing right now, and, and they're talking about, um, or they're actively doing like, like preparing for something.

52:35 What they're preparing for, I don't know, but it's concerning. John Brisson's been following it. Um, I've, I've been reading up on it a little bit and been following the reports. Uh, you know, Germany, Germany has, has upped, uh, their, uh their hospitals trying to, to get ready for, for mass, you know, uh, hospital beds being filled. You know, that's, that's concerning. Um, you know, um, military budgets have been brought up as well. Um, and they are citing that Russia is waging some type of hybrid attack. Um, they've been, uh, drones have been, uh, found, uh, over, uh across the Polish border, you know. And they did recently allegedly try to kill, uh, some diplomats that were between the Ukrainian and Polish border. There was an attack launched there conveniently at the same time. Uh, the German— one of the German airports is closed down now as we speak. At least it was reported, maybe it was yesterday, but, um, I saw the report today because of drone, um, activity, Russian drone activity around the areas.

53:43 Um, it's concerning. Uh, Russia has, uh, I think it's, uh, Sergei— what's his name— Sergei Lavrov. I'm getting the name wrong, something to that effect. Um, he said that, uh, you know, uh, it would be a quick conflict, a short war, uh, hinting at a nuclear strike. Yeah. Uh, Poland said the same thing. Poland was like, we'll take care of Russia very quickly. Um, the European Union, on the other hand, um, is, uh is saying that there is no plans for a hot war, a kinetic war, um, and they are trying to avoid that at all costs. But they're, they're also keeping an eye on Russian aggression. This is the same thing Vladimir Putin did, uh, leading up to Ukraine.

54:26 So it's very concerning to me, uh, you know, same rhetoric, same everything. Um, the Russian propaganda is real. Russians, uh, psychological operations are real, and a lot of the alternative media is under that spell. Heads up. Uh, it's happening though. Uh, so let's hope, uh, it doesn't turn into a kinetic war. We do not want that. Uh, but, but here is where we find ourselves. Tony Arterburn, what's up? Well, let's not forget, I mean, NATO or U.S. intelligence, for whoever, um, probably in conjunction with Ukraine, blew up that pipeline that was running from Russia to Germany that was basically a linkage of peace. Like, here, we're going to sell you energy Um, that happened. And do we have proof that it was NATO, or is that speculation? Well, you know, I think there's a lot more evidence pointing out that it is NATO or NATO-related or U.S.-sponsored in some way than it ever was. Like, Russia didn't do it to themselves. I mean, that would just— it wouldn't make any sense. That, that was the narrative that people do that, right? According to people here. Yeah, I, I personally, I don't believe— from whatever I've seen Um, and I— this has been years. Gosh, it's been what, 20— has it been 2022, 2023? Time is flying, man. Yeah, yeah. And they had quotes from the— quotes from American officials on it that just pretty much did everything but say, yeah, we did it. Like an inside job of just taking it out, making it look like Russia did it, because they want to sever any sort of economic ties to Russia in the future. Because NATO stands on its own. The European

55:58 Union is, is a a bankrupt entity. They're losing, um, the staying power of members due to their economic, uh, disintegration between the, the nation-states that are— they make them linkage together. And the issue that they've got is they— the same issue that we've got, except they've got much worse. The only way to really get out of this or have a, a, an escape valve for their economic policies, which are absolutely disastrous— they've got a shrinking uh, internal population, a growing migrant population, because they have to put people on the payroll. It's like a Ponzi scheme, and the entire thing is causing so much friction internally they have to have a war.

56:39 Uh, I think they want to keep that as an option. I think a lot of these things, when they're pointing out like, you know, opening up hospitals or signaling all that as part of a defense condition, kind of like we have DEFCON here in the United States, they're probably moving to a different DEFCON or at least posturing that, because everything in that, in, in high-stakes foreign policy, is posturing. It's language. You talk about Lavrov putting, putting out that quotation, uh, about it'll be a short war, but it's like national survival. You're pushing Russia to have to fight for its, its own internal nationalistic survival at some point. When Russia loses about a million people net a year in population, they'll have the same population that we had in 1947 in about 10 or 15 years. It's not a booming place. It's a very, it's very high in natural resources and they have the remnants of the armaments from the, the Soviet Empire. It's a dangerous thing to screw with.

57:32 Um, but that's what our leaders are doing. And if you look at these psychopaths, they wanna plant, plant the rainbow flag in Moscow. Uh, they're revolutionary Jacobin bloodthirsty warmongers, in my opinion. Um, there's always a way to do a deal and our boomer overro— overlords have screwed that up. And they cling to all these past, uh, belief systems that are hollow and, um, the, the carcasses of dead policies, as Lord Acton talked about. But I, I, I think that the— it's a dangerous escalation for, for reasons that could probably be negotiated. Don Jeffrey's thoughts, and then we're getting out of here. Well, I'm not really concerned about anything Russia's alleged or anybody's allegedly doing. I know what we're doing, and it's no good. And I you know, for propaganda. We're besieged by Zionist propaganda non-stop, so I'm concerned about that. Um, I, you know, I, we— I'm tired of foreign boogeymen. I don't care if it's Putin or, uh, Osama bin Laden or Saddam Hussein, whatever nonsense they're coming up with. We have boogeymen in Washington, D.C. Yeah, those are my— those are my concerns. Washington, D.C. is the enemy because we have evil people running things, and I'm tired of them blaming, trying to distract us with what's going on here, what's going— do you see what— no, no, I see what you're doing. I see what you're doing— nothing. You haven't touched our infrastructure for 60-some years. You've built a rigged economy where 80% of the people are losing all the time. You've killed upward mobility and any chance of job opportunities for the vast majority of young people. That's what I see. And you're distracting,

59:05 you're giving money to Ukraine constantly and giving money, more money even, to Israel, getting involved in a nonsensical war. That's what I see. I don't care what Russia is doing. And, you know, last I heard, Russia is paying its women to have babies. Maybe we got to do that because, uh, you know, we're going to depopulate humanity and give the eugenicists what they want at the rate we're going. Yeah, well, you know, Peter Thiel has a different, uh, solution to that. It's called, uh, um, everlasting life, and that's what they're working on, you know. But, um, I, I, I don't think we factor into that equation. Something, something funny. Billy, can America Unplug— we move the show to the moon? I think.

59:47 Or can we go intergalactic? What about— can we do, um, Space and Time Unplugged? Like, just get out of this entire zone. Like, maybe I like Moon Unplugged. That's kind of dope. Moon Unplugged. Mars Unplugged. Uh, we're done with all this earthly nonsense, okay? Fuck this. You know how hard it is? You're the commentator anymore when you don't even have a side other than just like, you guys are psychopaths. Like, I just look at the news and I don't— I think my— I locked— I talked 11 minutes on my show on Thursday about, uh, the, um, They found a new species of cat. Did you see that? I saw that. Well, see, I'm interested in that. Yeah, you know, I'm interested in the cat. I want to see the cat, man. That's cool. It's a, it's a jungle cat. It's, it's a, it's smaller than a house cat. It's a good-looking cat. It was, it was, at least if, if that picture that I saw was the correct one, it was— I want one. Yeah, I want him to live.

1:00:38 I mean, they'll be friends with Pumpkin here and, and Wise Wolf and Denison. I can have 2 cats. Since, since my boy Xi Jinping, who listens to America Unplugged all the time, is probably listening to right now, I will make a request. Request for a panda. We don't have one here in, in the Bronx Zoo. I would like one, and I also would like one personally for myself. I will also take a red panda. I'm cool with that either way. All right, let's get up out of here. It's America Unplugged. We're gonna keep our eye on everything. I thought it was a really concise show. We, we freaking tackled a lot. Typically we, we, we have, you know, all these ideas of what we're gonna do when we spend our time on one subject or two tops, you know, so This was good in my opinion. I hope everybody got something out of it. My name is Billy Ray Valentine. This is Tony Arterburn. Tell them where they can find you, sir. You can go to tony.gold, my website, or arterburn.gold.

1:01:26 You can find me there. Arterburn Radio Transmission, Para Truth Podcast, Wise Wolf Gold and Silver, all that stuff. Go find Wise Wolf. Hold on, what is it? The new species of cat was probably developed by DARPA. Can we— can I have 5 minutes? Can you give me something here? Like, you know, like, fuck, bro, just give me one thing. And it's been by Bill Gates mosquitoes. Don Jeffries the Legendary, what's up, sir? You can follow me on Substack. I'm not shadowbanned there yet. donaldjeffries.substack.com. I protest, just like my podcast. Uh, on Twitter, if you're not following me on X, please follow me @donjeffries. My books are all that. They're finishing up my book Unsports. Uh, hopefully that'll be out not too long from now. Finish final touches on it and, uh, becoming the foremost thought criminal in the world after I write that. Fantastic. Dark Alley Entertainment, what's up? You call it the obvious? Tell that to 99% of the rest of the alternative media, buddy, and that's on record. So you call it the obvious, but tell that to them because it wasn't very obvious to them. My name is Billy Ray Valentine.

1:02:29 Listen, I just did a show on Guerrilla Underground. I put it up on, on, uh, gorillaunderground.podbeam.com, uh, what used to be formerly The Infinite Fringe. It's up there, it's nice and produced, it sounds good. And it's, um, you know, um, I had a, a PhD on, on cult, uh, behavior and cognitive liberty on, and, uh, and he grilled me to see if I was in a cult or not. His idea, not mine. Uh, so that was there. Go, go check it out. It's also on my Guerrilla Underground, um, YouTube channel, but I will put it up on Rumble for the haters. I'm gonna do that today so you guys can have it and pick it apart as much as you want, but you, you will get some good information out of it about mind coercion, uh, mind control, uh, you know, and, um, mind privacy and how they are actively trying to get into your mind. So we did cover that before he decided to psychoanalyze me, um, which was entertaining. I, I would say so myself anyway, uh This Sunday I may go live, but if not, I'm dropping an episode, probably a pre-recorded, and throwing them up there. And I have at least 4 or 5 more interviews, not including Tony, who was supposed to come on, and Guard, who's supposed to come on. So that's 7, you know. So we're, we're, we're working. We're starting to get a little bit of momentum, and hopefully we can do consistent shows for a little bit and, and try to see if we can build something. Uh, we also have a Gorilla Underground, um, Instagram page. I'll put a link here for you guys to, to follow it.

1:03:58 It's, it's all news. It's all news related, uh, no, no opinions, just news. That's it. All right, we're getting out of here. Tony, you want to burn it down? Yes, let's burn it down, please. Everything else is burning down, may as well.