#248 America Unplugged -Fear Porn & Prep Alerts: Is the World Bracing for Something Big?

0:02 Donald Jeffries, Donald Jeffries, author of Hidden History and Survival of the Richest, host of The Donald Jeffries Show. Billy Ray Valentine, Billy Ray Valentine, host of The Infinite Fringe podcast, researcher, truth seeker from the Bronx, New York. Tony Arterburn, Tony Arterburn, radio host, combat veteran, precious metals analyst, and alt historian. Together they take on the headlines of the decode the disinformation and plow through the mainstream propaganda. Unauthorized, unscripted, and unintimidated. This is America Unplugged.

0:51 Unscripted, unintimidated, unreal, unjabbed. Unenthused, uh, underwhelmed, uh, perhaps. Uh, this is America Unplugged. I am Tony Arterburn. I am filling in for the great Billy Ray Valentine, who is our usual host, who couldn't be here again this week. And, uh, we love Billy. We hope to see him back, uh, next week. We miss him. It's not the same show. He's getting to watch the, you know, the unraveling of, of MAGA in real time, and we haven't had his take. So I, I'd love to You know, I, I guess the midterms too are next week, so we'll have him. But, uh, happy Halloween, folks. Uh, All Hallows' Eve here. This is the 31st of October, 2026. I'm, uh, joined in studio by, uh, my black cat Pumpkin, so I'm Halloween ready. Uh, I've also got Beans the Brave, um, my chihuahua and spiritual guru. Well, a trillion dollars lost out of the markets, folks. Uh, the greatest, um, heist, uh, from a financial institution in human history happened yesterday as well. Over $6 billion from Binance wiped out from supposed North Korean hackers. Not sure I really buy that.

2:07 I'll talk a little bit more about that here as we get into the show, but I want to introduce, uh, the other part of America Unplugged is, uh, the third of the 3-headed beast is, uh, Donald Jeffries. Author of Hidden History. Welcome back to your own show, sir. Oh, it's great to be here, and I hope Billy, uh, everything goes well there and he'll be back next week. It's always a pleasure to see Ashley, who's kind of become our, uh, our Joan Rivers. Remember, she used to fill in for Johnny Carson all the time on The Tonight Show. She probably had a feud, so hopefully that didn't happen here. But, uh, yeah, she's, uh, she's great to have, isn't she? We're, we're very fortunate, especially last minute. So thank you, Ashley. Yeah, then I'm glad you're here as well. Say hi to the people.

2:52 Hello everybody, and yeah, thank you for the opportunity to be here. Always love having a chance to, uh, hop on America Unplugged with the AU team, as I refer to you all. And, uh, so looking forward to the conversation. Well, Don, I'm going to throw it to you. You've got an article you're working on, or maybe it's already up. We were discussing, uh, backstage, but, uh, yeah, a lot of— there's some, some ominous warning signs, signposts on the road ahead, like the Twilight Zone said. And, uh, something about stocking up on preparedness and food, and not only the populace but, um, but the military. You want to speak to that? Yeah, it's, it's actually, uh, I wrote it for American Free Press. It should be in the next issue.

3:34 But yeah, it's, um, although, you know, when I write there it's different because I can't put my humor and stuff in it than I normally do in Substack. I have to sound like a journalist, which I can do. It's not as much fun, but, uh, Yeah, it's, you know, again, we've heard these kinds of things before. Uh, fear porn sells, and I hope it's just fear porn, but this is a really coordinated campaign and it's all over the world. Like I said, you know, Japan, UK, I mean, Sweden, every, every country you can think of, and they're saying the same stuff. Be prepared, stock up on food and water and medicine. And they mentioned natural disasters, and we know natural disasters aren't what they used to be thanks to geoengineering.

4:16 They're much more terrifying, and I never As a young guy, I never feared natural disasters. Now we have a Weather Channel, and, you know, old people just feed off that. They're looking— they look at the Weather Channel like we used to look at Playboy back in the day. I mean, this is— this is what they live on, you know, weather. Oh my God, it's Category 7 hurricane! Are you kidding? So, uh, that's what it's there for. So I don't know if it's that or they're really gonna finally usher in World War III, which I don't think they're going to because I think they would have done it. And RB Hamm says this military training and digging mass graves, that really— I don't know, that got— they said the same thing in COVID, remember? They said the prisoners at Rikers Island were— which apparently they always do or something. And I don't know, that sounds ominous, but everything about it sounds ominous. And it's, it's the if you see something, say something, which I have actually heard commercials again on the radio for that. I don't know what you're supposed to see and who you're supposed to say it to. But, uh, it's, it's, it's scary stuff, and it's, uh, but it's meant to be scary. So I, I hope it's just more of the fear porn. But, you know, when Heg says— I mean, first of all, you— I wasn't in the military, Tony was. But I mean, wouldn't military bases be fully supplied?

5:28 I mean, why wouldn't they already have that on hand? Make sure you have 90 days worth. I, I would kind of think, especially the military above all others, would be fully prepared, but not according to him. And, uh, you know, Dan Bongino, of all people, you know, never forget, he told us Epstein killed himself. Uh, he says, you know, 30— stock up on 30 days of food and water and get a backup generator and all the things that maybe people can't afford. But, uh, so it's, it's interesting because, you know, for decades, uh, people have been doing this for a long time. Preppers, preppers have lived and died now, generations of them. Prepping for something that didn't come.

6:08 And, uh, they used to demonize them as preppers, and now they're urging everyone to be a prepper. So wouldn't you like to be a prepper too? You know, so I, I don't know what it means, but let's hope it's just fear porn. Well, speaking of the military, something I noticed when I was a young soldier is, and then I cycled through my 3 wars, is that we became less prepared every war. So it's like the first, you know, first iteration, my first deployment was Kosovo, and it was very organized. I mean, as far as like the how organized the military can actually be. But I didn't know any different. So I was 20 years old and, and they give you like your body armor. It was very— it's a lot more sophisticated when I went to Coast Guard. I had a Ranger vest, which was like a, you know, Kevlar-plated and, you know, bullet resistant. Um, but it would stop a lot, you know, and it was heavy.

6:55 Uh, we had, you know, batteries and all this stuff for your night vision, weapons accountability, like you had to count every round. Like, everything was very, very well organized. And then by the time we get to Iraq, they didn't even have body armor. They give us like Vietnam-era flak vests, and we didn't have any batteries for the, for the night vision. Nobody knew what was going on. There were no plans. I mean, they literally just threw it together, and we had to like figure out what the hell was going on. I mean, there's no maps of the AO, none of that stuff. So I mean, you can cycle down. It's kind of like entropy where you get less prepared basically through the chaos of things, and we've We have upended because we've been in a constant state of perpetual war, especially since 9/11, um, and then the upheaval politically that we've been in. I don't know, there's— we're, we're a long ways off. People don't really, I think, have a sense of like the history of why do we have even the interstate system. That's Eisenhower, as you know, Don. I mean, the reason we have the interstate system was, uh, strategic, you know, post, um World War II and then entering the Cold War era, that was— we built these highway systems. That's why, you know, like Route 66 was upended by I-40. All that stuff was, uh, because we could transport the military, not just, you know, people and commerce and stuff, but it was meant to be able to get our forces and transport nuclear weapons and stuff across.

8:20 And that, that was Eisenhower did that. Um, but now we have a crumbling infrastructure system, so I, you know, it's, it's hard to— it's hard to tell. And I'm, I'm Definitely want to get Ashley's take on this. I won't take up the whole, the whole segment here with this, but there is something interesting. And you got to wonder, is this language— and I mean this in the sense, are they floating these things through the public for the effect of supposed enemies of the United States saying we're preparing for something and you guess what it is? Instead of— because they really don't care about us. I mean, at the end of the day, folks, they just don't care. Um, sorry, they don't care. Uh, actually, in, in military doctrine, the term fear and loathing, uh, is supposed to describe the populace. Fear and loathing is what— it's what in military doctrine, supposedly, that's what— that's where you get Hunter S. Thompson's The Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and all that, and fear and loathing on the campaign trail. So something to think about.

9:19 I, I don't think they care about us at all. So this could be some sort of head fake or, you know, they could be trying to mitigate possible disasters, something that they do. I don't know. But there's something ominous about it. It is spooky season. Ashley, what do you think? Is there any validity to this stuff? I don't know. I'm with you guys. One thing that we do know, as you said, is that fear sells. So that's one thing. Now, could this be some type of engagement headed towards the midterms? Perhaps. Could this be a trial balloon to see how the population reacts to this type of information?

10:01 Like, oh, um, now I'm putting on my conspiratorial hat, but let's say that we have narrative managers and they are, they are testing to see how certain messaging will land with the American public and via what route that would be delivered. So in this case, Dan Bongino, but he's basing that off of the other countries. And I, I do have a little bit of a list, um, like what Don was talking about, of what the preparedness that they have been discussing with their citizens. So part of me is wondering like, oh, can we create another toilet paper shortage, something like that? Now I also think, and this is something that I, I'm sorry to, to keep bringing it up, but we have this situation that is like ready to go off any minute in the Middle East. At least that's how it feels to me. So maybe there could be part of that. And we do have sort of this gloves-off declaration by Iran that they may now move not only to defensive— to a defensive posture as far as the United States and Israel go, but to an offensive and asymmetric approach to this conflict. So I think maybe that has something to do with it. We know the continuing situation that we're continuing to get these rumblings of, oh, Russia and Europe, Russia and Europe. So I'm just You know, it's hard to tell. So as Don said, it came from Dan Bongino here in the States. So on his podcast on Monday, he told Americans

11:33 to heed the recent government alerts from the UK and Japan. So as Don was saying, the United Kingdom, Japan, and Europe more broadly, Belgium, France, Netherlands, Finland, Canada advised 72 hours. Sweden, Norway, Estonia, Switzerland, and Taiwan advised about a week. So some of them have different recommendations, but they all have a recommendation. Germany advises up to 10 days. Much of this has been building for a couple of years. The Netherlands earlier arranged for preparedness booklet to reach more than 8.5 million households explaining how to manage 72 hours without essential services. And it said for the US, FEMA and ready.gov advise a basic kit with at least 3 days of food and water. So some of that's fairly standard, but of course what is different is the fact that All of these warnings are getting attention at the same time and certainly appear to be coordinated to an extent for Europe.

12:31 So I don't know, guys. I, of course, am hoping that it's just more kind of trying to stir the pot. But, and I pray that people are not going to need that because we've seen many times with natural disasters like Hurricane Helene, And on and on and on with fires and hurricanes through the United States. And people try to help each other when they can. But, you know, I don't want to see Americans harmed or anyone harmed by, you know, by the nonsense that's happening in the Middle East or now they call it what? What do they call it? West Asia is what I have been hearing it referred to, which that's going to be difficult for me to switch to that. But either that or whatever is transpiring between Russia and Ukraine. They're calling it the Orient. You know, somewhere in the Orient.

13:20 We get to go back to those days, Oriental. Yeah, maybe so. Well, if there's one person I trust, it's Dan Bongino. I mean, seriously. Yeah, one person. Gotta listen to him. I mean, he really is. I mean, that is— that's the gold standard in, uh, in the dissemination of truth. Uh, so hard to— hard to tell. And what, you know, he— I mean, he really is an extension of the deep state at this point. If you're listening to him, he's, he's talking points for the deep state. I mean, somebody like— is he even real? I mean, is he just— is that an avatar of what Dan Bongino was? I mean, I— what was his— it's hard to tell. Like, something absorbed these people. I mean, we probably ought to stay— even if you just want to take off your political hat, like with RFK Jr., I mean, I even— to a certain extent, Trump himself. Like, what was the what is the point of all of them? And, uh, Kash Patel— Kash Patel is like another aspect of this just strangeness. Like, what was the point of their— the political movement that they were a part of? Uh, I don't know. And then you get Dan Bongino. That's interesting that we reference him because he's the one saying it. So, you know, I, I don't know. I— and again, I don't think they, they care about the populace. Um, so we're this may be, you know, we're living in a, in a giant psyop, and there's multiple ones going on, mind warfare. And language, you know, it's— I, I use this, and I'll give you another reference

14:51 actually. If you haven't watched 13 Days yet, which you, you know, you— I don't know if you're behind on your homework if you haven't watched 13 Days, but I told you to. But in that movie, Robert McNamara is the— well, the guy's playing Robert McNamara is having an argument with, uh, the, the commander of the Navy when they're doing the blockade in the Cuban Missile Crisis. And, um, he tries to tell them like, this isn't necessarily war, this is language the likes of which the world has never seen. It's like they're communicating, like Kennedy was communicating with Khrushchev. And I use that— I mean, I watched that movie 20-plus years ago and I thought, that's interesting, it is language. So I don't know if all of this— we float these press releases, and if you notice, all of those countries that you listed would be considered somewhat of the Allied Powers in the new World War era. Like, if that, you know, you take, you know, Japan, Taiwan, Switzerland— I mean, Switzerland's been neutral, but I wonder if that's because of the banking system.

15:50 They're getting some sort of intel. I don't know. It's interesting, right? What do you think, Don, before we close this one out? And I'll go to Ashley. Yeah, it's— and, you know, Ashley elaborated on it and what we're saying, and that And because it's like the boy who cried wolf, and so— but we, we said the same thing with COVID when we had been told these things about Ebola and monkeypox and, you know, going back to the Hong Kong flu, uh, people were scared about it, but they didn't have a, you know, they didn't have a Weather Channel type of thing to reinforce it all the time with old people especially. But they followed through on this one and they closed down the entire world. So they'll do it, you know, because I even— I said, oh, it's just another, you know, more fear porn.

16:34 So they showed they will do it, and they showed how well it worked. I don't think they need any trial balloons at this point because we showed if they— if they tell— they could give you the exact instructions of what you need to have, you know, go buy 10 bottles of Tabasco sauce or something, and you would have millions of people that would do it because they have shown— they've shown conclusively that they will obey instructions, they will obey the authorities. You know, that, that test they did back in the '70s or whenever it was when they showed that, uh, people would, uh, would let, you know, other test subjects be, be hurt with electricity if, if somebody in a white coat tell them we need to do this. They wouldn't stop it. They would say, yeah, Milgram. Go ahead. Yeah, Milgram or Milgram. Milgram, I think. Yeah, Milgram. Yeah.

17:18 So, no, and that was when people were I think way less control and more open-minded. So now I think there'd be any objection at all. So I hope it's just more fear porn, but, uh, you know, it's, it's, it's impossible to say. But whenever they have this kind of coordinated campaign— and this is really coordinated— Michelle on here from Germany is wonderful. I really love the fact she tunes in from there. But she said she's been hearing this kind of thing since 2008 in Germany. So to be what? You know, if— what was the if you see something, say something thing? What was it about? Remember Alex Jones in his better days? He called that number and he kept doing it on air and nobody ever answered, and there wasn't a way to leave a message. So what was the whole point of the entire thing?

18:03 There was, you know, that's when he did good stuff like that where, uh, you know, and they're still saying it. I said, I still hear radio campaigns, if you see something say something. It might be for local or whatever. What are we— what do you mean if you see something? And that's, that's so Orwellian anyhow. It's like, what do you, what are you supposed to be looking for if your neighbor's doing anything suspicious? And of course, that came to, you know, full flower during COVID when, you know, you're not wearing your mask, you weren't staying 6 feet apart. I saw somebody hugging, you know, that's— we saw people calling the authorities on that. So who knows if somebody now didn't stock up correctly? I don't know. I'm sure the same people, the usual suspects, would call and report us. So it's still— it's scary stuff. But again, it reminds us again how outnumbered we are. But I, I suspect that if this got big enough and they kept drumming it home, people would do exactly as ordered.

18:54 Well, it reminds me, you mentioned Alex Jones. You remember the, the docs that he did, or the shows that he did with Jesse Ventura, and they went to these, um, DHS facilities, then they had these massive amounts of coffins, like plastic containers for people, like they were like preparing. And that— it also reminds me of Rex 84 in some ways, you know, like that whole thing that Oliver North, um, and they were working— yeah, well, and you're— that goes back to the '80s, obviously '84, and they've never done anything with it. What are the FEMA camps for? They're decades old now. We've all speculated they're going to put— Jesse Ventura had a great show about that where he's, you know, he focused on the fact that They have, uh, little playground sets like they're going to have kids there. So what, what are they for? But they— as far as I know, nobody's in them. I've speculated that's where we're gonna— they're gonna put us there, you know, at some point. But they've waited decades. I think they like to have this stuff hanging over our heads. I really do. So I think they— and they maybe they enjoy us talking about it and speculating about it, you know. What are they saying now? What are these crazy kooks saying?

19:57 You know, it's just— I don't know. I think it's a game to them. Yeah, I think so. There's something with it. I mean, you should obviously be prepared no matter what, uh, if you look at just how fragile the system is. And I will add this, and I'm going to throw it to Ashley. If you were to look at the actual threat, it's probably not as catastrophic as you think, but it, it would be something that would be totally disruptive. And, um, if we look at what's happened to the world's energy supply and how fragile the supply chain is, a lot of A lot of the new crop of politicians, um, because they're handpicked and they're usually socialist or just incompetent, um, they, they tend to not understand how markets work. Like, the ability to get everything to market takes so much cooperation, and it takes profit incentive. And that's why communism fails, and, you know, state-planned things fail, is because you have to have, you, like, the the hidden hand, or the Adam Smith's hand, you know, of the, of the marketplace to bring things.

20:56 Well, we've screwed that up so badly. And if you look at how, um, not on top of the, the oil supply disruption because of the war of choice by, you know, Trump's war for Israel, but if you look at like the t-shirt ban in Ukraine is, you know, hitting every Russian oil refinery he can, you know, um, just, I mean, just trying to get the Armageddon, as he's trying as hard as he can. Um, but we're, you know, this is, this is part of it. We're getting this massive energy disruption and it would only take just a little bit more. It's kind of like the Joker on, on Batman, you know, he's like, just needs a little push, you know, to make it chaos. I mean, seriously, folks, that's how close we have not built the infrastructure in, in the West. Like, the reason we can't— like, we tapped into Venezuela We supposedly have, you know, we kidnapped, we reverse-iced Maduro, and we should have all this oil, except you can't really refine that oil that comes out of Venezuela in the West. There's not— the refineries aren't set up to refine it because it's a certain type of crude.

21:58 Okay, so we— most of the crude that we get comes from the Middle East, right? And so we just don't have the infrastructure that we should, um, on any level, not just transportation and airports and desalinization and water, all that stuff. And we just have incompetence and probably planned, uh, weaponized incompetence is the— I think that's probably the better term. So that's more to me the issue. Like, if you look at— like, I'm looking at the headline of Drudge right now, a trillion wiped out of the markets, all that fake money. And then that— I think we're just at the beginning of a market turndown that's probably going to be epic, uh, and it might not be tomorrow, right? But, um, it's going to be somewhere in this timeline, you know, in the next year or two, we're going to see some massive financial stuff happen.

22:45 So that to me is the signal to prepare for setbacks, for supply chain disruptions and whatever the hell else the goblins come up with. But Ash, I'll throw it to you. Any thoughts on that? Yeah, just really quick. I agree. You know, I think that we're in a powder keg situation. At least that is what we're being led to believe as far as what is happening with the various conflicts around the world. And the conflicts that we have been hearing about for many years now. You know, China and Taiwan could potentially kick off. You and I talked about earlier this week, Tony, that the United States and Japan are now cooperating for weapons manufacturing.

23:28 And I think that, to your point, that language is really important. So if we know that the CIA had a manual on trickery and deceit, which they did, using magic techniques which they did, then we have to understand that language is part of that. So whether that is to create, uh, fear or to create a certain type of behavior or to, to manipulate in some way, shape, or form, I think that's something that I always try to keep in mind is that this could be part of that as well as trying to be balanced in, you know, and reasonable in meet space. Now, the other thing that I was thinking about is, um, as far as the, the preparation thing, we could be as prepared as we want to. And I had this thought during Hurricane Helene: you could have been prepping for decades, and guess how much good that does you when the mountain is washing away and your house is in it? So not to say that you shouldn't prep, but just sometimes there's— you can be as prepared as you possibly can and things still go wrong. Um, so I don't know, I don't know. It's a, it's a really weird time.

24:46 Well, one, one thing I want to say though too is I think it's been mentioned, but— and, and this goes what I, I repeated constantly during COVID— is that our leaders, if you, if you know, understand one thing, you should know at this point that our leaders don't care about us. They don't care about you. So the idea that they were trying to give you this vaccine because they cared about your health, they've tons of people with diabetes that can't afford insulin. Nobody's giving them free insulin. That, that's— it just doesn't— they're not going to do that. And the idea that if there was something coming up that they would want you to be saved, when we know they're eugenicists and they prefer a huge die-off— that's what they want— is ludicrous. So why are they saying this to you? It's not because they care. Whatever it's about, it's not because of that. It may be just fear porn, whatever, but it's certainly not because they care about you and they want you to survive. Well, it's soft— could be softening the, the consciousness up for an event that they already know is in the works of some kind, whether that's like a cyber thing or something planned, a false flag, whatever it is. That's something you should— I mean, if they're floating something, they're softening your mind, kind of like you'd soften up a target before you invade.

25:55 They'd soften up your mind. That's why I think a lot of these— a lot of the doomerism around AI to me is part of that because, oh, they need to really control it. Well, who says they need to control it? The people that invented it or the people that own the companies, the large ones. And I'm thinking, okay, so you, you're totally afraid of the thing that you made, right? And we talked about this last week, like you made something that you can't control. Okay. And then if just, you know, if these, you know, geriatrics in DC just come up with a new plan, then you'll be protected because they'll pass a law. Well, it sounds to me like you want you, your company or your fiefdom to rule over everything and not have any innovation or competition. So it's kind of like the same thing, but this could be mixed together. Like, you know, I, you look at the, the Binance hack, at least the, what I've gathered from it, one of the most interesting parts of it is like $6 billion plus was taken from Binance and, and really quickly. And these are supposedly North Korean hackers.

26:55 But what's probably the most interesting part of the Binance hack is that they were able to retrieve, I think, like $3 billion of it or something like that because it was on-chain on stablecoins, which means that they can just retract the payments. Like, you can pull those back. And that's the whole point of having like digital money. It's, it's not really money. I mean, it's just, it's a form of, of currency and payment, but it's ultimately controlled and can be withdrawn. Um, so something to think about there. And like, that's the age that they want us to go into. So I, you know, something about this just reeks of— and especially because look at the source, you know, again, like, you're gonna go to Captain Deep State, oh, Dan Bongino, you know. So something's, something's wrong with it. Uh, at least I think we recognize— the panel here collectively recognizes that something's up with it. We're not telling you I mean, you can go to preparewithtony.com and get some storable food through my Patriot Supply, which I do, um, but that's not what we're saying, uh, and I don't know that this is time to, to never panic, by the way, uh, but something's up with this. Don, any more thoughts? And then we can, we can look at the, the market.

28:09 Yeah, yeah, let's go to the next thing. I think, what else can we say about it? Okay, Ash, any, any thoughts? I don't want to I don't want to exclude your brain. No, I think we covered it pretty comprehensively, you know, that we're keeping an open mind as to what is actually going on. And don't count out a little bit of basic preparation, but also just keep your wits about you and know that, you know, like you're saying, basically. And it's a— as Tony would do, one of my favorite movies of all time is the movie Clue. Rest in peace, Tim Curry. And they're having a conversation about a theory or something that happened. And they said, I'd say it stinks.

28:50 So I agree. I like that. The simplicity of the beauty is the simplicity of that, Ash. Thank you. Um, well, so another aspect of the strange times, um, is the market. And I think, uh, this is something that our audience, you know, not everybody's going to be, uh, you know, an investor or an entrepreneur or whatever. Um, that's not really about You know, that's not the, the subject matter here. The issue is that we've got these fragile market systems that are tied together. And, uh, we see a trillion wiped out yesterday. We probably are on just the beginning of something. Uh, I've been in the metals business for many years, and you look at the worst inflation data that we've ever had, because if every day is the worst day of inflation, because every day is another day closer to zero, But I digress.

29:47 Um, we have this really bad inflation data because of the price of oil, uh, the, the war of choice, the Middle East, the supply disruptions. Um, and it's causing, uh, the, uh, implosion of precious metals, which are supposed to be a hedge against inflation. We've never really seen this before. Um, and yesterday with the trillion wiped out, you have a lot of market sell-off. So I'm not really talking about the investment aspect of this, but just the upside down in which we live. And, um, you know, these aren't— things are not going to get better. Like, we're not going to have a stronger dollar, a better dollar system a year from now or 2 years from now or 3 years from now. But we are watching like this implosion of value around the world. It's hard to even find out what is worth— what something is actually worth.

30:35 There's a lot that's gonna have to, uh, work its way out. Like it's gonna, there's gonna have to be some sort of a revaluation across the board of what everything is actually valued. Uh, you know, you have a lot of just strange news coming out. Um, one of the, one of the market, uh, aspects in the last week was that some firm said that they can now make gold out of mercury if they just get a, a sophisticated multi-billion dollar investment and they can like create up to 2 tons a year or something. Such nonsense, by the way. I mean, Isaac Newton tried to do that, and, uh, he, he tried alchemy his whole life. Thousands of years people trying to figure out how to like turn base metals into gold. Don't think it's going to happen anytime soon, but I do think that speaks to like the, the purpose of that would be to try to, um, shore up more value in a world that there's not almost any value left in.

31:32 So it's interesting. I want to throw it to Don because he wrote Survival of the Richest, but You know, Don, we never really paid the price for 2008, the great financial crisis. I've been watching— one of my hobbies in the last month has been watching movies, uh, then on that era, and like The Big Short and Too Big to Fail and stuff on Bernie Madoff and other things. But, um, we never paid the price. Today, actually, if you don't know, uh, is the anniversary of 2008. The Halloween is when the, the Bitcoin white paper dropped. Uh, anonymously. Um, but it's a, it's a, its birthday is Halloween. And, uh, it was in response to what happened in 2008, 2009, which again, um, Don, I don't think, I think this is an extension of that time. We never really left that time. And a lot of things that were unprecedented about that, the bailouts and, uh, you know, the too big to fail mentality.

32:26 Uh, what do you think, uh, moving forward? Like, what do you see in these, these markets that are getting wiped out? Well, again, I, I don't understand it. I, I don't have anything in the market anymore. I took my last bit out, uh, a while back because it's, it's just too volatile. And I, I'll, I'll miss some of the highs, and it's still, it's swinging back and forth even more than ever now. Uh, it's just too much for me. And not because I, you know, I'm scared it's going to crash and I would lose everything. So, uh, and unfortunately I don't have the insider knowledge that these people do, but the, the 2008 crisis, again, I, I You know, I've had my real estate license for a long time, so I've always had my toes in that water. So that was devastating to people. And, and again, you're talking about a class of people that could afford real estate because, you know, half of America, maybe more at this point, can't afford real estate. That's something we should all be concerned about that. But back then, I knew so many people and I felt awful for them because they bought the peak.

33:20 And, you know, at that time, real estate just kept going up. It never collapsed. And then, you know, it crashed. And so I knew so many people that paid like $100,000 more or something for something that, you know, a year later was worth $100,000 less. And they couldn't do anything. They were trapped. They couldn't afford to, you know, pay that much money to sell their house. So I felt awful. And most of them, if they stayed, they, you know, regained the equity. But, um, so that— and that's, you know, Real estate, that's my market too, but it's, it's a, it's a, it's funny money. You know, I have a house where I've got hundreds of thousands of dollars of equity in it, but it's all fake because they could do something tomorrow and, and manipulate the value of all these houses and suddenly that would all be gone. So it's not like it's, you have it in the bank or you have it in gold or silver or something. It's nothing tangible. And most people are like me that, uh, most of their value is tied up in real estate. And it's all, again, it's all equity. It's not like other investments. It can be the best investment, but, uh, I always worry about that. But it's a catch-22 because I worry about my kids, and if I have grandchildren, whatever, they can't buy any of this stuff, and because it's too priced. But of course, we have a vested interest in wanting it to keep going up for our own purposes. So how do you, how do you handle that? I don't know. I used to try to talk to people in real estate, and they're just, they just, you know, they just give you a blank look. So I said, you know, there's— you don't have starter homes anymore. You don't have people— I— when we were married, I bought a little tiny townhouse, so my wife and I had, uh, right next to the railroad tracks,

34:53 you know, the 2 levels and, uh, 1.5 baths, and that's all we could afford. But now that it's probably $350,000, $400,000 now, I think that little place is. So, and nobody, nobody that could afford that would— would— they would turn their nose up at it. I don't know, it's by the railroad track, and it's 1.5 baths. There's probably no white people left in it, I'm guessing, at this point. So they're— I don't want to live there, it's crazy. But so they can only sell to maybe immigrant families or something like that that pool their resources together. But the people like us starting a couple— well, now you don't even have married couples starting out because nobody's getting married, I guess. But the ones that out there that are, they don't have those starter homes anymore. And that's, that's sad because that's how you build. So we were able to jump from there into a single-family home. Can't do that now. And, uh, I think that's part of— so when people talk about the stock market, I've mentioned this before, 90% of the stocks are owned by 10% of the people.

35:49 So the stock market doesn't apply to the vast majority of people. So when they talk about the stock market, now I don't have to worry. I still check it. I don't know why I check it every day, because I guess just to tick myself off if it goes way up. Now I'm rooting against it, which is wrong, but, you know, I could have had that, you know. But it's funny because we talk about this stuff and we can speculate about it a little bit, but for the 70-some percent of the people, that's why I wrote Survival of the Richest, that are living paycheck to paycheck and don't have $500 in savings, they don't have any investments. They don't even have the imaginary equity of real estate. I don't know what they do. And I hear from people like that and they're just dependent on it. And if they lose their job, You know, good luck, which they could easily— that could easily happen now. So, uh, that's probably not exactly to your point, but, you know, you know I'm gonna go off in a Huey Long direction probably when I start talking about the economy.

36:42 Well, it's true. I mean, the, the people in the West in general, worldwide really, but America, the, the theft of the American dream happened because of our money. And, uh, you know, if you bought houses in gold, you could buy more house with gold today than you could um, 40 years ago, 50 years ago. Uh, gold and as a— as money, and, and even like things like Bitcoin, like it takes less Bitcoin to buy a house today than it did, uh, 3 years ago. And, uh, well, it takes more dollars, a lot more dollars, and that's where everything went. So you price people out because wages don't keep up with inflation, wages don't keep up with the death of the currency, uh, people's investments don't keep up. That's why you had In, you know, the history of, of going off the gold standard, what followed was the IRAs, the 401s. Like, there was no investment commercials.

37:30 Like, didn't have all the stuff that they have now. Now you have everything. Is now you can get on Calci, you can bet against the political things, you can, you know, there's, uh, betting online. Um, you know, the stock market is betting. Like, as you mentioned, Don, you know, you know, 10% own 90%, you know, 10% own 90% of the stocks. It's the bottom 50% of people. Like, it's almost no wealth. You know, at all. Um, less than 1% collectively. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's an insane disparity of wealth and not what a free market would actually produce. We have a manipulated market. The prices should not be going up, folks. They should be going down because when you have sound money, uh, the innovation creates, uh, less scarcity, uh, because of— again, that's the way that the, the free market works.

38:13 But, uh, Ashley, what are your thoughts on this? And then I want to talk about the upcoming election. Okay, so, um, I guess maybe I'm kind of like Dawn in this, in this situation because it may not be exactly what you're talking about. But in regards to the stock market, one of the things that I've been thinking about not only is people paying into Social Security their entire life that you don't have a choice for if you're on the books, and if something were to happen to you before you retire, oh well, so sad, that money's not going anywhere. You never get it. It's never even close to the amount that you put in for First of all, so that's one of the traps. There's many. The other thing is that back in the day, companies used to have, uh, you know, maybe a pension or something like that. Then we moved to the 401 match. So people are kind of forced to go the 401 and Social Security route, but you don't have a pension. Then if they did ever pay out bonuses, a lot of times now they will pay you in company stock. So let's say that you're somebody who spent your entire life grinding and you get paid something from your company, but it's in stock, and then they have the vesting plans.

39:23 So even if you had the desire to try to get that out, then you're— you have to wait until that money vests. And, and they have different increments for how they do that. Maybe it's a third, a third, a third before the full amount is fully vested, or whatever that looks like. And then you have the tax implications after that just to try to get the money that was, you know, that you earned. Even if you're trying to protect your investments, even if you have the ability to get, um, to kind of be involved in the stock market. So all that to say, in this conversation that we're having, it's just stacked against the working man, you know. It really is. And, um, it's really unfortunate. It shouldn't be that hard for people to just try to have, like, what we're talking about here, the American dream. It's really, really difficult for the reasons that you said, Tony, and you said, Don. And then the, the whole way that people's, um, retirement structure has changed, and then even access to money that you are— that you earned, that was given to you. But there's all these other considerations. So if you have that money in holding and something happens to the stock market, oh well, there's nothing you can do about it. Yeah, and you brought up a point about you people are fortunate that even get a company stock. As a benefit. Most, most workers don't get anything, right, at all. They don't even get set hours anymore. I mean, it's ridiculous.

40:50 They try to keep them under because they're terrified of them getting overtime. But, uh, and as somebody pointed out in the, uh, in the, the chat, it said $2,000 a month for, uh, basically, uh, one of those mini cubicles in New York City now that has a commode on top of the sink, on top of the commode. It's like a walk-in closet. And that's what we're going for. I talked about that in, in, uh, Survival of the Richest. They're trying to promote that stuff. San Francisco, I think, has a bunch of them. There's a lot of rich people at the— Peter Sikach is in the, uh, chat. He probably has seen those. I bet they go because San Francisco has a high cost of living, a lot of people with wealth out there, and they're, they're calling minimalist living, whatever. They're trying to— again, they're trying to get you to accept a lower standard of living. And as you know, Ross Perot said back in the '90s, we, we shouldn't allow our children's generation to be the first one to have a lower standard of living than their parents, but it's happening. And God only knows what their children's generation will look like. I mean, they literally might be living in closets. But it's terrible that we let this happen. And when you talk about the pension, I talk a lot about that. And so, Rob Larson, from my own experience, I can tell you, when I saw working for the same company my entire adult life, they had— I didn't understand anything about it, but I didn't recognize till later what a great pension I had when I started. But once they started introducing 401s and calling the president of the company CEOs, when they introduced that, and I was probably 10 to 12 years into the company, they transferred it. So when they had— they got rid of the pension a year or two before they fired me. So thank God they did it then.

42:22 But I had a lump sum option, and I took the lump sum, and it was pretty good. But I— way more than any of the other people that got— that had been there 30 years, because I'd been there 40 years. And I had those 10 to 12 years under that old pension. So if they had kept that, I probably would have retired with a couple million dollars easily, maybe more, because that's how good those pensions were for a successful company. But they got rid of it. And so those people who've been there for 30 years got almost nothing. People didn't recognize the transfer that happened. Yeah, 401s were better than nothing, but I don't know, every company, maybe almost every company has a 401 now, but it's not the same thing as a pension. People used to get that. It's that because that, that augmented your Social Security. So Ashley noted, and you know, now, now that I'm living in the Social Security world and I may have to prepare for the Medicare world— I'm not on it yet because my wife's still working, so I'm on her plan, but she's probably going to retire very soon. So that means at present I'll get— I'll have to— I think they take, it's like $200 or so now out of it for Medicare, which is the crappiest insurance in the world. It's the worst deal in the world. You pay into it your whole life, they take a certain amount and it goes up every year. It's usually tied to whatever they give you cost of living for Social Security, so you don't get ahead. So it's like $200 now, and for that great $200, you get your own money back, $200, and you get 80% coverage. It only covers 80%, so you still have a 20% copay. So a whole new industry of supplemental insurance has been born because people then have to pay

43:52 $300, whatever it is a month to cover the rest of their expenses. So it's, it's a horror. And you don't see anybody— Bernie Sanders saying Medicare for All— Medicare is horrible. Who wants this terrible system? It's 80%. Again, when I started working, I, I'm one of the boomers that'll tell you the way it was when I worked. I paid nothing for health insurance, nothing. And I 100% covered, not a penny. And again, that was the same time I had a great pension and all these other great benefits. People don't realize, and it wasn't like I worked for the, you know, the Teamsters or something. I didn't have a union, but they had those benefits then, and they gradually eliminated, and we didn't see what happened. It would chop it off one by one every year, and that happened all over the country. And so I was fortunate, but, you know, my kids are not going to be that fortunate.

44:40 My grandkids certainly wouldn't be. So people— but nobody talks about that. And that's why I said the Democrats could— they could get my vote again if they started talking about this stuff, but they won't do it. Yeah, Bernie Sanders is the best you're going to get. Medicare for All, you know, which is stupid. No, Medicare is a problem. It's really bad. It's a horrible system. You're getting your own money back and you're getting terrible coverage. So you have to get a whole supplemental thing. But anyway, you're not going to hear anybody else say that, but that's the way it is. And I don't know how many of you guys listening, right? I know there's an older demographic out there too, is dealing with this as well. I don't know what it's like. And I think I appear on this guy in England's show who's my age. Once in a while on Sundays, and, uh, Eric, and he, uh, they have something like it in the UK, something like, you know, similar to Social Security. It's the same crappy thing. It's not, it's not anywhere near good enough. But it's, uh, it's a shame because now we're stuck in it, and you have the boomers arguing with the millennials. And I understand it because the boomers are demanding their money, but most of us need it because most, most of us have no other income. I'm lucky I still have income.

45:45 And but, you know, from a little bit from writing, more from real estate. But, uh, a lot of oldsters don't. They just had that Social Security, and maybe they made less than me, so they have even less. And it's, it's terrible. And, uh, but again, you don't see anybody talk about it. Instead, the Republicans want to get rid of it. Matt Walsh, I was trying to argue with him. Of course, he doesn't recognize that I exist, but he was— that's what he was basically doing, saying we need to get rid of it. I kept saying, okay, what are you going to do with all those old people then? The majority of them out there have no other income and it's their own money they're getting back. So come up with a lump sum option, let the people take out, but make it a nice lump sum because they paid a lot of money into there and definitely mandate a lump sum for the younger people. So they get their money back and then the systems, you can maybe privatize it or whatever. But that, that's my campaign slogan and nobody's going to ask me to run for office. I'm a lot like you, Don, uh, with, with Huey Long and populism. I'm, I'm more that than probably just about anything else. I mean, there's some libertarian streak in me, but I'm not, I'm not a Ben Shapiro capitalist, you know. Eat your food, you know, everything's more affordable, you know, you should work until you're dead.

46:56 I just don't think— like, that's not a civilized society, and that's not how this is supposed to work. But until we fix the money Nothing will ever be. And you can't, can't fix anything until you fix the money. And we have a damaged monetary system that favors the, the very few, and it diminishes the value and work of everyone else, and it turns the world upside down. And that's— we have these bankers' wars and endless corruption and deep state as they fund themselves. You know, the genesis of that is those Luciferian bankster notes. And, um, you know, uh, the other side is not perfect. Sound money right now is taking a a beating. Uh, but, um, I'm not worried. I'm not— just before we close on this subject, I— people might ask me like, how do you feel about like metals prices?

47:41 Like, I don't feel anything. Like, this, um, it doesn't affect me. Uh, I'm fine. I— it could take another 20% hit, I don't care. Can I just say one thing? Somebody in the— I think this— I think I worked with this guy. Craig Amos says, remember me? Craig, did we work together in IT? I think— I mean I'm trying to remember if so, because he said they screwed him over too. I'm thinking so. Please let me know if that's the case. I, I hope you're— I hope you're doing okay. Wow, so it's a small world, huh? That's cool. Yeah, it's probably coming from your YouTube channel, Don. That's cool. Yeah. Uh, Ashley, any thoughts? And then I'm gonna— I want to spend the last 10 minutes on the upcoming election. I want to get predictions or thoughts.

48:22 Well, I couldn't possibly take up more time because I want to hear what you have to say, and I You know, I do have— maybe this is my programming, but I, I still have some excitement leading into the election. What am I excited for? It must be the drama. It must be the tea. It must be the vibes. Because otherwise, it's not that I think things are going to be great after this or that I'm pulling for anybody at all, but there's still some kind of excitement leading into that. And especially like what you're predicting, which is going to be an unbelievable blue wave, an un— you know, some big change on the horizon. So, um, yeah, I want to get into that. Well, this is my thoughts, and I want to get Don's take on this. My reading of things, and this is just clearly from every bit of information I can source, and then I'm in my analysis just for the audience, and we'll go back and we'll see how right I am next week. I think this is going to be historic. And I mean, it's kind of gonna— obviously there's an expected taking of the House by the Democrats, but I think it's going to be worse than that. I think a lot of things will be— a lot of surprises happen, some things, and especially in places like Texas and other red states. I think the apathy and the betrayal, those two things that go together, the disillusionment of what was MAGA Um, in my opinion. And just the overall, like, just feeling of dread, like, I'm— and I'm talking about ethereal things

49:52 like this, the mass consciousness, like what Carl Jung would talk about, okay? I'm, I'm actually— I'm looking at that, not polls. And that's, that's my opinion. But I think we're about to see something. And by the way, I'm not even a fan of it. Um, I think they deserve it. Um, but I think a lot of it's scripted. Uh, but we are going to get something. This may be a generational shift because I don't think you can get it back. I don't think there's like a lot of people that were worried about like the right or that we were, you know, the right's going to dominate politics. I, it's all those were just precedents. Like the whole thing that we had ICE for and all this stuff was just so like they can set precedents. It's not like an actual policy thing. Uh, but I think we're about to see a major upheaval Uh, in the political system. And I'm not sure exactly what that leads to.

50:40 I'd like to get your thoughts, Donna, what you see for next week. Um, and then if, you know, if I'm right, like possible outcomes. And, you know, then I want to see what Ash thinks. Well, EuroDaisy67 is making great points. And again, that Craig— it's wonderful to see you here, Craig Amos. And it shows you what a small world is. I mean, this is somebody I worked with. I had no idea you were paying attention to my work. I was tell people all the time. I hear from people all the time, but it's never anybody I know. So it's, it's especially nice to hear from somebody that I do know. So great, I'm glad you're doing well too. YourDaisy67, uh, says that Republicans receive approximately 38.5 to 39.6% of contributions, uh, from, uh, AIPAC for their candidates.

51:20 Democrats, 58 to 60% from AIPAC. So again, Democrats believe— nominally, they seem like they're more open-minded on Israel. But I, you know, I don't think they count the votes. But I think if they did count the votes in this election, that, uh, the Democrats would still probably win both houses of Congress because Trump has been so bad that, uh, you know, people temporarily forget how bad the Democrats are. Because they're really— that guy was talking about the one of the many Muslim candidates, which you're going to get more of those. And then you'll have the, the right wing will attack them for being, you know, Hamas or something, you know, that kind of thing. So it's kind of a built-in, uh, opposition there. But, uh, this guy made really horrible comments about, you know, white children aren't special, and just, you know, you couldn't say them in any other group. So you know where his mindset is. And, uh, there's obviously a lot of that in there. That's why I say about the Squad and people like that, I agree with them on Israel, although I know they hate white people.

52:18 I understand. I'm white, so, you know, I don't want to make too much of an alliance with them, but So I think that's the choice. Uh, you know, so I think somebody in there said something like that. It basically, it's the same choice I've said. You either have a choice between the anti-white woke Democrats who are largely insane and do think men can have babies and that kind of stuff. They're largely insane. And, uh, that are just want to cater to all kinds of special interest groups except white males. So as a white male voter, I don't know why you'd vote for them. And then you had the Republicans, the Republicucks. Who famously don't do anything that they could do to counteract this and are completely betrothed to Israel.

52:58 They're Israel's collective bride at this point. They do anything Israel says, and that's all they care about, Zionism. They don't care what Israel says or what they want to do, take over the world, the, the Greater Israel Project, anything. So I think that's the choice, and it's not much of a choice, but most people— and I see it, you know, in my own family, people that have changed that are just like one guy that's been a Republican, a longtime friend of my son's, is he's just going to vote Democrats just, just to teach Trump, to show Trump, because they're so mad at Trump completely flip-flopping on everything he said and going down this really dark path and saying the Epstein files are a hoax and starting this stupid war with Iran. And more recently, just, you know, talking nonsensically out of it with the thing about men's asses, which he was just People put out a thing that he's got all these ridiculous gay comments. Like, what? I don't understand what— where did that even come from?

53:52 It's like, it's so— and then he has Nicki Minaj, uh, do— or Nicki Minaj, whatever, who, you know, I don't think she's a type of conservative you would look for, but he was admiring her ass the other day, which I guess at least was a female ass. But, uh, he's apparently thinking of her as press secretary. So, so that would be fitting, wouldn't it? Why not her or Kid Rock or something? Uh, make a complete lap. But that's what's happened. This is the opposition to the insanity of the woke Democrats. This is what it's come down to. I don't mind higher gas prices, and I've seen tons of these people, um, you know, who, who talk about— people talk about the— you know what I say about the high gas prices? Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon.

54:36 That's one of their talking points, and they've convinced themselves of that, that so that higher prices are good, good thing. We've always had higher good prices. This is what they're— look at all they could be running on. The Democrats are walking, they're walking around with kick me signs on their backs. They're, they're talking nothing but insanity, and these stupid Republicans can't do anything but cuck for Israel. That's all they do. And, and there's no opposition to the whoever is the guy running against that terrible, um, Islam guy in Michigan. Tucker Carlson called this Mike Rogers against— is running against him. And like Tucker Carlson said, this Mike Rogers is one of the worst neocon cucks you'll ever find. You can't— who— you can't find it in yourself to vote for him because all that means is when the Greater Israel Project.

55:27 But on the other hand, you have to— the other choice is a guy who hates white people. So if you're white, why would you vote for that? Does that make any sense? So this is the choice we have. So I, I know there will be electoral fraud if there need be, but I think if the Republicans don't get— if they don't lose pretty much every election, that it probably was, you know, rigged for them for whatever reason. Because to me, I don't see how they can avoid it, because what is, what is Trump going to run on? All he can do is Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon. That's basically it. Or Uh, I gold-plated everything in the White House, you know, if I painted over the reflective— I've got a big beautiful ballroom. That's, that's what America First has become.

56:10 Nothing. There's no been no mass deportation. All that's still there. And it's— yeah, they stopped it, I guess, for now. But on the other hand, they're also warning us of another caravan. So where's the caravan coming if the border's closed? Where's it coming from? But they're still saying there's a caravan, so They've done nothing they said they would do, and it's a shame because this was our last chance. Because once the Democrats get back in it— and again, I'm not going to go fear porn because the Democrats probably won't do anything either. They didn't really, really don't do anything. They just— the rhetoric is, you know, and they'll, they'll appoint more bald-headed guys in red dresses that'll steal women's luggage and put them in high-ranking positions. They'll do that stuff. Rachel Levine might get another job, another health position. You know, but, um, you know, because she's in great— you know, she's healthy. But that's, that's what you'll get.

56:59 But what has happened instead? Instead, he would have that, or he have— you rename the Department of Defense the Department of War, and you have Secretary of War Hegseth saying, look here, son, and, you know, and all this crazy stuff, you know, challenging people to do push-ups and saying it's, you know, it's an honor to go serve and, and, you know, sacrifice your life for nothing. So There's no choice. I, I hate to say it, and there's no third party on the horizon unless Tucker Carlson comes through with that, and then I may be sucked in. As I said, hopefully not, but who knows. I, I love your analysis as always, Don, and there's a lot of wisdom in there. I— the third-party thing, maybe, but I, I think the ship of nationalism, America First stuff, is, is probably gone for a few generations. Um, we blew it. And, uh, I say we collectively, but, uh, I mean, I supported that early on. I, I could feel that in the rumblings, like it was before Trump. And this is what I ran on when, uh, I ran for Congress. And, uh, you know, I felt like that was the future and it should have been, and it could have captured the minds of younger people. And, and, and I meant for a good thing, like re— re-expose them to what American greatness was.

58:06 Uh, but it's, it ends with Trump talking about dudes' asses. And that's how, I mean, we basically did a funhouse mirror version of, of it. And bastardized it and made sure we destroyed, um, totally, and, and did it in a humiliation ritual, um, throughout the last 10 years. So there's probably no bringing it back, um, and that's unfortunate because there's a lot of good ideas in it, uh, but they were all turned upside down. And I don't know what happens— I don't know what happened to the people in the movement. I mean, I, I wasn't a fan of a lot of them anyway, but, um, that's a dead space. So what comes next? That is the question. Um, well, in our, in our state, Craig Amos points out, he says, do you want more Abigail Spanberger? Our governor is as bad as it gets, Abigail Spanberger. She's horrible. And I, you know, one of my— Vince Agnelli, a good friend, I mean, I sold his house, but he, he moved to North Carolina because of Abigail Spanberger. And I'm sure he's not the only one. Craig, I agree with you, but who, who ran against Abigail Spanberger?

59:04 A typical empty suit for the Republicucks. And they nominated her because she was a Black woman. I, I don't even know what she is other than they put her up there, see, this is a female Black Republican, that— and that's what they ran on. She— I don't think she had a single issue. And again, Abigail Spanberger is horrible. Anybody could run against her, but she rode to victory. And in our areas, you know, all the retired government workers— Northern Virginia where I live is just full of these double and triple dippers, and the Democrats serve them very well. And that's all they care about, again, because they're very selfish. They don't care about the future. And so they're, they're really the bad boomers that people talk about. So I'm with you, Craig, but they got to nominate somebody good.

59:46 Ash, closing thoughts? I think that, um, you know, from my conspiratorial perspective, I feel like that these types of things are simply laying the groundwork. They're laying the foundation for the next March in where we're headed. So if you do believe that the idea is to have this technocratic surveillance state, then I think that that is going to be what we're— excuse me— what we're seeing transpiring here. So whatever precedent has been set by Republicans will be abused by the other side. And that's how it always goes because we have a lack of principle. No matter what talking points they tell us, We know that. So I think that it's going to be really interesting to kind of see how things will transpire with the tech bros because the tech bros were obviously very oppositional during COVID times, particularly Zuckerberg.

1:00:46 But once we have Trump 2.0 back on board, Zuckerberg is right there beside him. And there's this whole milieu of the tech bro, the Rogansphere, the UFC space, the military space. Like, there's something with that that was important in supporting Donald Trump 2.0. And so I'm curious to see how that is going to go when we end up moving to— and if your predictions are correct, which I believe that they will be— to kind of this blue wave. And we'll see, we'll see if they abuse everything that he did, every executive order, every precedent that was set under this administration. We will see how it's going to be abused.

1:01:31 And I think You know, it may continue to flip-flop like that. And then the other last thing that I wanted to say is that I think a lot of young kids, you know, whether they have a full understanding of like what a free market is or libertarian principles or conservative or Democrat or whatever that looks like, but a lot of them do care about people. So they care about what is happening in Gaza right now, which generally aligns them with the more Liberal Party. And I think that they are going to be very disaffected after this next election because they, they may think that they're making a difference. They're trying to vote out the AIPAC. They're trying to get the candidates who are giving lip service to ending the genocide in Gaza.

1:02:16 And that's— I don't think that's going to happen because I think it's the same, same for the upper crust of both of these parties. And I believe that they will be disaffected in that way. And perhaps as I close, maybe this was the point of MAGA all along, was to make sure that nationalism, uh, America First, any sort of real like pushback to globalism was buried forever. And it was in a humiliation ritual of lies and betrayal, uh, ending in this. And then I think, you know, if you look at what's probably going to happen next week, my prediction, um, and those people will be Uh, Ashley, then unfortunately they will be disillusioned because the Democrats are not going to help them and they're not going to— they're not— I mean, literally, I should, um, the, the one unbelievable costume for today with Halloween would be to dress up as the anti-war left because people are like, oh, come on, that doesn't even really exist in myth or lore. I mean, exactly, you know, like I could be Sasquatch, people like, yeah, my uncle saw one once, but nobody's ever seen anti-war left. That's just a myth. From the past. Um, so we shall see.

1:03:22 Um, but I'm going to close out. americaunplugged.com, uh, is the website. You can find our shows there and give us a review. When Billy's back next week— I did a terrible job going to the chat. Um, Jackson T. Barrett is in there and he just, he's infuriated because I didn't go to the chat. You don't even read it, he says. I do read it, I'm just in the middle of hosting. And, uh, I've quoted several things. And Jackson, I tell you every week come on, I protest, and I call in the people, whoever wants to come in the second half of every show. So you'll get your chance on there. You can say all you want. People can see what you look like if you want to show off, or you can just be on audio, but you'll have a free forum. I don't censor anybody. But you don't do that. Instead, you just keep saying we don't read the chat. And so everybody in the chat, we love you, especially over on Rumble too. And, uh, I'm not ignoring you. I do look over there. I'm again And Billy is such— I mean, he is the, the host who makes it look easy. It's not. It's not easy. It's not easy. Uh, Ashley knows this. Uh, Ashley, tell people where they can find you. You can find me at, uh, Linktree Think Change Repeat. That's all my links, all my socials. And I hope that you'll check out my show, uh, Think Change Repeat and Fool Me Twice. And then of course lately I've had the opportunity to be on America Unplugged, and I've been working with Tony quite a bit on the Ardmore radio transmission. So going very well, and thank you so much. And also Nights of the Storm, 2 PM Saturday, coming up.

1:04:51 Well, I sure appreciate you. Uh, Don, donaldjeffries.media— don't forget his website, don't forget his books. The holidays are coming up. The perfect gift is one of Don's books to your family members. Uh, share the work and share the love. donaldjeffries.media— all your links are up there. They weigh down the stockings a little bit, but they're great stocking stuffers too if you want to say. Oh, they're sure. Yes. Just a little. I mean, and I'll— me and Don will talk later, but I, I've got Christmas gifts in mind. It's going to be Donald Jeffries' books. So follow my lead, folks. Go get, go get the, the gift of enlightenment in this, in this very dark time. We'll be back next week. Uh, let's see, I'm gonna play us out. Uh, what do you think, Ash? Do we, do we burn the place down?

1:05:36 I think in honor of our friend Billy Ray Valentine I insist that we must burn it down. Yes. All right, folks, I'm gonna, I'm gonna set it to, uh, burn down mode. We'll see you next week. Okay, hopefully. I think we've got the insurance. If you mailed the insurance payment check, I'm, I'm gonna be, uh, I'll be very satisfied. Thank you, Ashley. All right, folks, we'll see, see you next week. Tony.Gold, Wise Wolf Gold and Silver.