#243 America Unplugged: Clown Time at the UN — Trump & Netanyahu’s WWE Show

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Donald Jeffries, Donald Jeffries, author of Hidden History

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and Survival of the Richest, host of The Donald Jeffries Show.

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Billy Ray Valentine, Billy Ray Valentine, host of The

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Infinite Fringe podcast, researcher,

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truth seeker from the Bronx, New York. Tony Arterburn,

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Tony Arterburn, radio host, combat veteran,

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precious metals analyst, and alt historian.

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Together they take on the headlines of the week,

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decode the information and plow through the mainstream propaganda,

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unauthorized, unscripted, and unintimidated.

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This is America Unplugged.

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What is going on? How is everybody doing? My name is Billy Ray Valentine.

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This is the War on Reality Report, America Unplugged.

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Thank you for showing up. Thank you for being here. We appreciate it.

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Um, things are getting crazier and crazier. We say that every week,

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but it's true. Tony Arterburn The wisest of all the wolves. How are you,

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sir? I'm here for it, man. I speak clown now.

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I'm clown maxing. Not myself, but, uh, projecting clown

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onto other things. Clown maxing. That's new. I just coined that.

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You, you can't use it. Damn. Sorry.

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Can't? Because it's in the umbrella of America Unplugged, I should

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be able to use that. Read your contract.

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Go back, go back and read the contract, Billy. Hardball. Incredible.

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Anyway, uh, Don Jeffries the Legendary, how are you, sir?

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Good. I'm sure everybody's here. We talked before the show. I'm sure I, I have

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lots of great comments about losing Riley earlier this week,

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and I wrote up on Substack about it. I have to do that. Uh,

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it's cathartic for me. It really does help to have, have some kind of platform

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when you lose somebody, and I've been losing too many, too many things close to

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me recently. And, uh, so it helps to be able to write about it

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and hear people comment back and talk about their own dogs and everything.

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So it's everybody going through it. So that's been, you know, on my mind this

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week, obviously. Um, uh,

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God bless your dog, you know. Um, and, and I've,

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I've been thinking about this a lot lately, and it was separate from

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what happened with your dog. And this is a factor that—

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I mean, something that we all have to deal with as, as, you know,

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as a part of this reality, right? As a part of this experience that,

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that that we're all engaging in, right?

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But I thought about it, you know, and there's the— especially like, I mean,

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I grew up in a heavy

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Christian household,

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and I went to Catholic school for 8 years, you know, but I got the

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narrative that animals don't have souls.

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It's only, you know, humans that do, right? And I'm like,

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if animals don't have souls, Humans don't have

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souls either. That's, that's where I currently stand on

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this, you know. So we gotta pick. I don't think there

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is, oh, they don't but we do. Sure, there's a— there's differences

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between us and them, but at the core,

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these are animals that love. They're animals that feel,

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right, and that, that are loyal, you know, and, and are an

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integral part of people's lives. You know, I have a cat. The cat loves

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me. You know, and it's a cat, but, but he's always

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around, you know, he's always— well, he's meowing at me when he wants food,

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but he likes to hang out, he likes to get pet, you know.

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Um, and my dog is the same way. My dog is—

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when I come in, he's the happiest person in the world, or the happiest dog

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in the world, you know, you, you would think. But this is every dog right

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across, across the spectrum of dogs. Um,

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I don't think that we're any more special than they are. In terms

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of existence, in terms of the life energy that

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runs through all of us. I think it's the same, you know. And, uh,

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if, if, if humans return to God, then dogs are also—

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or all animals are a creation of the Lord, and they also return to

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the Lord. That's the way I look at it. You can argue with

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me if you want, but, you know, um, I just can't

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can't come to terms with, yeah, they're just gonna die and

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disappear. Nothing happens to them. They're soulless. But yet

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we, we, you know, we go on and, and we enjoy,

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um, another existence. I, I don't think it works that way. And,

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and that's from every life form on Earth, in my opinion.

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We— the same breath of

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life, uh, runs through them that runs through us. Tony, what's up?

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Well, I think if you're fortunate enough, it's a symbiotic relationship

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that happens between you and your dog. And I've experienced that. That's why, you know,

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knowing what happened to Don this week, I really don't have any words of wisdom

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or anything that I can share that would make it better because I've felt that.

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Uh, but I do think that, that they absolutely do have souls. And,

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um, you know, I, I said when I lost, uh,

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Layla back in 2020, the first thing I thought of is that,

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you know, dog is God spelled backwards. And I learned a great deal from her,

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and she was a great teacher to me and a friend.

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And, you know, I can't imagine— like, I, I was at the airport going

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to Colorado a few weeks ago, and one of the TSA agents— see,

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I was carrying Beans, and he didn't want to touch, like, or be around

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Beans. Like, he had one of me, like, turn her head, like, so he could

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inspect me and stuff. He's like, I don't really like dogs. And I thought,

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what do you have then? I mean, what is interesting— if I, I just thought

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that's so, like, morally or spiritually bankrupt. I mean, what is it

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like you you don't want to see this dog. I mean, it's, it's Beans.

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It's not like I've got a, you know, I've got a pit bull or something

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I'm carrying and it's like maybe a little bit intimidating. It's literally Beans and she's

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looking at you. It's, it's funny. But there is this, uh,

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I think vacancy of, of feeling in some people that don't, don't like dogs.

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It's fine, you don't have to, but they are very special. And, uh,

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they are— they are, I think, of all the species too. And I

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love cats, you know, I've got I've got 2 cats, but, uh, yeah,

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there is something very special about, about the relationship with dogs. And,

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um, you know, again, this is— sorry for, for Don's loss.

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I know he's— I mean, you can still show up and function, but it's tough.

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So been there. I appreciate that from everybody.

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Thank you. Better to have loved and lost,

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and I, I stick to that, you know. Um, and it hurts. One of

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my, one of my good friends lost his dad, uh,

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this week, you know, and he's in shambles, and I totally

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get it, 100%. But that's the transaction

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that we— nothing is free. Nothing is free. We pay for it in some way,

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shape, or form. And that's the transaction that

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we engage in when we love as deeply as we do.

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It's going to hurt. Um,

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so I mean, I would accept it and embrace it

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as a testament to the

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relationship, um, that, you know, Don,

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you and your dog, or, or, you know, with any loved

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one, um, the relationship that you guys

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engaged in, you know, then, and that's why it hurts so much.

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But it's a privilege. It's a privilege to be able to to live

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at the same time and walk through this experience together.

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You know, so I look at it that way. And, you know, extended to you

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guys, I feel the same way. It's a privilege to be here with both

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of you at this point in time, you know, and have these discussions week

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to week. I value our time together. I value our friendship. You know,

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everybody in the chat, I value that you're here.

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And things are going to hurt, but it's, it's the human price to pay,

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you know. So here we go. God bless. God bless

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your dog, uh, uh, Don. Thank you. Let's, let's, let's, uh,

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talk about, uh, bad stuff going on in the world.

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More bad stuff. Donald Trump, we could talk about him.

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Where do you want to start off? They did this UN thing,

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uh, it was craziness here in the city. And Netanyahu went off

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and cut WWE-style promos, and so did

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Donald Trump. I mean, I, I mean, what was I watching? It looked

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like, uh, a telenovela of some sort, you know. They were up there saying,

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I'm gonna get you and I'm gonna annihilate you

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and there's nothing you can do about it, and when I'm done with you,

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I'm coming for your friends, you know. It's literally the craziness

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that we got. So we'll talk a little bit about that. We're going to talk

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about the situation with Russia and NATO and the European Union

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a little bit. And also, um,

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martial law is in talks. It's not going to— at

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least I don't think it's going to happen. It could very well happen. I don't

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think it is going to happen, but these desperation talks are, are,

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are being injected into the narrative at this point because the midterms

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are coming up. And whether you think elections are fake or not,

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there's going to be a shift. And, uh, you know,

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uh, some people within Trump's, uh,

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orbit are suggesting that maybe you declare martial

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law. And while I think the probability is very low,

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I wouldn't put it past these pieces of filth. Anyway, Tony Arterburn,

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the UN. What did you think of the WWE promos that

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Donald Trump cut and Netanyahu cut? Which one was better to you?

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Who's the better promo cutter. It was insane

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last night. I mean, it was next— not last night, this week.

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It was the next level WWE for me. What's up, buddy?

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Well, it was war of the teleprompters. Uh, that's one

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thing that I noticed, you know, Trump's delivery of,

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uh, really just unhinged rhetoric. I mean, it's not, it's not,

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not presidential. It's not something that you could, uh,

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you know, lay over a, a Reagan-esque speech or

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John F. Kennedy or any of the times that the UN is actually been relevant,

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um, if you want to call it that. I mean, we've had since the

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start of the Cold War back in the 1950s,

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the UN came into play many times. Cuban Missile Crisis, it came into,

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uh, play during the Reagan administration and

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other times. There was a, there was a theater about it.

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But one thing I've noticed about this administration and even the

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declining political relevance of Netanyahu

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is that people are just kind of yawning. That's one thing I noticed about it.

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Was, it was unhinged rhetoric. And if you

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notice, Trump says, uh, he, he says, should I completely destroy Iran?

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You know, should I wipe it off the face of the earth, or should I

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do a deal? You know, it's just, it, it's bizarre. It's bizarre

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to watch. Uh, and then you have like, it pans over and it's showing the

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the representative from Iran just looking at him, you know.

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Uh, and I even think it was weirder, um, you know, we put sanctions

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on their air travel, and this is what Scott Bessin has done, the Treasury Secretary,

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and he was kind of jokingly asking, I wonder how they'll get home since they

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can't use the planes that I've sanctioned that can't take off. I, I don't know,

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we, we're, we're definitely— we crossed some boundaries

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when it comes to, uh, foreign policy and relationships

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and especially this war. And, um, interesting that Trump

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and Netanyahu have the— I don't know, they're,

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they're pretty much of the same ilk. Like, it's the brand goes together.

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It's like PepsiCo. Like, you have a KFC Taco

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Bell. That's like what— that's the Trump, uh, Netanyahu connection.

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They're this, this owned by the same corporation.

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So it's interesting to watch, uh, but, uh sad too,

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in the fact that we're, we're not talking about diplomacy. No, we're not talking about

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bigger ideals. I mean, if you go back to the 1960s,

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and Don, I'm sure you remember this, you know, when Khrushchev takes off his,

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uh, shoe and beats the podium and says, we're gonna— we will bury

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you and your children will grow up under communism. Uh, that was the kind

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of theatrics that you would expect from, you know, an unhinged Soviet

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leader. Um, but now we have that here. I mean, we did everything but take

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off our clown shoe and beat it on the podium. And they went after,

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uh, well, Trump also went after Cuba. Let's not forget about that. Just completely,

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we're going to take over, you know. Uh, it's, it's insanity

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what I heard. Uh, Donald Jeffries, your thoughts, sir? Yeah,

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and again, as I said, I just heard, you know, snippets of what I heard.

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He talked about annihilating Iran, but it just looks like he's going full bore,

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um, WWE bad guy. I mean, again, I think he's—

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the Trumpenstein Project has taken that turn where it's, it's nothing. I mean, he's got

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Lyndon McMahon is still in his administration, isn't he? So it's surprising Vince McMahon doesn't

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have some position. Uh, it's— and he's a WWE Hall of Famer.

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This is, this is what he does best. I mean, he, you know, if he

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could have been a real wrestler, he would have been great because he loves to

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trash talk and he, he can dumb it down so that all the yahoos

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love it. And, uh, I, I don't know what he's talking about. He's all—

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he's been this way now for so long. He's all over the place.

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One second, I'll not— we'll wipe you out the face of the earth. We'll pretend

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you, you, you never existed. And then, but we might take a deal,

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you know, but we should have peace, you know. He's He's all over

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the place. And Netanyahu, I don't, I don't know that he's WWE.

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He's just, you know, he's an evil leader of the Zionists at this point.

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But I mean, uh, he's going along with it, of course,

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because his stooge is still— he's not about to disengage

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from this disastrous, uh, war or whatever you call it with

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Iran. So yeah, but I agree that it's, it's clown time. And, um,

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at this point, you know, when I look at X, I, I see the people

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that are still supporting him and it's It's the remnants of— it,

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it is truly cultish. It's like Jim Jones at this point, because you

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have to be. There's nothing— I, I can't, you know,

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come up with any kind of a positive thing about him at all,

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because he just— and this has been for at least a year. Yeah, he just—

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and I'm looking at him there, he's just, he just keeps doing the same thing.

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He's 80 years old talking like this. They've never had an 80-year-old

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WWE guy, have they? I don't think. But I said maybe Trump can Give,

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give hope to senior citizens. But it's, it's laughable.

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But I don't fear beyond that because I don't— I think that,

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that, uh, and people are talking about martial law, and, uh,

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White Wolf I think made a good point in the chat room. I— we're

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pretty close to martial law now. We have militarized police forces.

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And yeah, you're not, you're not randomly maybe going to get it when

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you walk outside, but any little thing could set them off.

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And we know now that, uh, you know, people are being prosecuted

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for the most ridiculous things by both, you know, wokeness on the left and,

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uh, you know, crazy, you know,

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Zionist nonsense on the right. So I don't know how much farther they'd

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have to go with, with having martial law, but I've heard the martial law fears

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for going back to at least Bill Clinton. The conspiracy

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world used to talk about, you know, Clinton's going to declare martial law, Bush is

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going to declare it, everybody's going to declare it. When Reagan, you know, we talked

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about the FEMA camps even farther back than that. People talked about, well, that's obviously

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why else would they have it? And they're still sitting there, I guess, empty.

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We all fear that they're going to put us in there, but, uh, I don't

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know. I, I think they like toying with us and there's a lot of fear

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porn. But, uh, right now they have a complete buffoon

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up there that's their spokesman, and I don't know if he's distracting or what,

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but like I said, I can't— all I can do is just look at it

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and it's, it's, it's a sad indictment of, uh, of our leadership.

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Well, there's this guy named Peter Tinkton, he's a lawyer for

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Trump who is advocating for martial law. This is a little different than,

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uh, what was going on, uh, you know, with during

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the, the Clinton era and, or, or in conspiracy tropes. This is the

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administration in power suggesting these things,

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you know, uh, in order to take over, uh, the elections in, in,

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in November. This is not a theory. They are

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suggesting these things, you know. Will they carry it

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out is one thing, and even if they do carry it out, will it be

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successful is another. Um, but to put it past these people

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is, is something else altogether, right? So we need to be up on this.

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That's what, uh, we can discuss it a little bit, a little bit more in

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a few. Let me play this clip of Trump, uh,

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fires threats of annihilation at Iran. Let me see here.

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Let me see if it plays. But I have a big decision to make.

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Will a deal be made with Iran that

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lets them rebuild and create a far greater country

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than it ever was before? Maybe one of the

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greatest in the Middle East or even the world? Or do I

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annihilate the Islamic Republic and do it quickly,

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never giving them a chance to kill and destroy people

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and countries again? Do I drive them into hell

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with no chance of survival and no hope of future

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greatness or generations? But I believe we'll make a deal

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right after the election. What is wrong with this man?

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What is wrong with him? Something is seriously wrong with this guy.

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I'm gonna drive you to hell. You know, like, I'm surprised

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that dude just sat— I mean, a lot of people got up and left,

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you know, but I'm surprised that dude just sat there and took it. Like,

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I don't know how these people do it. And the Iranians were going, hey,

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that's how we talk, you know, you— yes, that's our

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playbook. Like, we're gonna drive Israel into the sea, you know. Like, I think

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they're— I think they're all part of it. I think that's why he didn't get

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up. I think that they're all— I mean, because otherwise, I mean, at this point,

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the way he sounds, if we were a serious country, we had seriously— like

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I said, I, I still think this is all an act. It's, it's a,

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it's a very confusing act at this point and convoluted. But,

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uh, because he certainly sounds demented when he talks like that.

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So if we had responsible leadership, he would have been impeached.

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But they were impeaching him over nothing the first term, and there's

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not even talk about it now because I think, I think everybody's

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in on it. I really— I'm not everybody, but most of them are because a

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lot of— he's easy to genuinely hate. So a lot of people genuinely hate him

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because of his personality before he even started saying this really crazy stuff.

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But yeah, I mean, he's— when he's threatening to annihilate countries and,

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well, we might make a deal, him and the deal stuff.

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I mean, I guess he remembers that there was a book called The Art of

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the Deal published under his name, so he has to keep talking about deal.

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What, what is this deal? We might work out a deal.

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What deal are you talking about? But he's the greatest dealmaker ever,

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Don. He said this in

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2024 and everybody believed it and they voted for him. Because, you know, he was

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going to make deals. He was going to end the war in one

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day in Russia and Ukraine, 24 hours, because he's

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the greatest dealmaker ever. Turns out he doesn't know how to make a deal.

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He doesn't— probably doesn't know how to spell the word deal. You know, like,

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it's a ridiculous,

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ridiculous state of affairs that we find ourselves in right now because of this dude.

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Um, but, uh, I disagree. I think he did impeachable

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stuff. During the first term. Regardless of that, um,

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you're gonna start hearing the— first off, you are hearing impeach, impeach,

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impeach. Um, but, but once after November,

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it's going to kick into high gear, right? They're going to want to— and,

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and, you know, my initial reaction to this is

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yes, they need to impeach him, they need to remove him.

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That's not going to solve our problem. It's not going

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to solve our problem if J.D. Vance takes over. That might

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even make it worse. If we're going to do things,

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we have to impeach both of them and remove both of them,

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and that's not going to happen, right? It's just not.

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Um, so maybe we're— the best course of

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action is waiting for 2 years, you know,

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and hoping that this can go away. And then we have to deal with a

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whole set of other problems, of course. Um,

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and hopefully we don't get Gavin Newsom.

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Um, but I was telling Tony, um,

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backstage, you know, that my,

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my attention has shifted. Although I will always detest

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Donald J. Trump and his cult— if you're

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still in the cult, it goes for you. If you're no longer in the cult,

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welcome home, right? But if, if I will, I will always have

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a soft spot in my heart to hating this piece of filth,

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right? Um, I don't think he is relevant anymore.

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He will do things these next 2 years that are going to piss us off

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and that are going to put us in compromising positions if he

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makes it. But I don't think that this is

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what we should concentrate the majority of our time on

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anymore. And we're going to address these things because it's so

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outlandish, right? When he says some things like this We can't just turn away

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and look in a different direction. They're gonna try to go into Cuba. They're gonna

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try to do these things. You know, they could try full-on martial

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law. You know, I don't think it's gonna happen, but they could try it.

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I think our biggest threat is the technocrats,

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and they already have, um, you know,

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a J.D. Vance just waiting, licking his chops,

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uh, trying to get into the presidency. And once he's the president of the United

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States, it's Peter Thiel. And I feel like Gavin Newsom is compromised in the same

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way, you know. So I think that's, that's the

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biggest issue we need to, we need to concentrate on. But that doesn't mean we're

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not going to cover this, uh, Trump and, and the decline

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of MAGA, the, the end of MAGA once

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November comes around. I know that, well, we think— I think Tony agrees,

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tell me if I'm wrong— they're going to take over the House. I don't know

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about the Senate, but it looks like that's a probability too. Go ahead,

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Tom. High probability. Yeah, yeah, just, uh,

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Don was mentioning that, you know, they haven't impeached him, and I, I agree.

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It's strange, you know, you had this, uh, rush to impeachment

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in the first Trump administration, which seems quite tame to

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the second one as far as overreach and executive, uh,

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power. Uh, but the reason why I think inherently is

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because they have a Republican House and Senate, which will change.

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I, I believe both will change in November I think this is going to

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be a pretty historic election, even with all the apathy,

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um, under— underneath the surface that we're seeing. I mean, a lot

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of people are disengaged from politics anyway. That's why you have to go extreme right

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or extreme left to even get anybody talking about anything anymore.

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I talked about this on my show on Thursday. I think there's a reason for

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that, whether it's right or left, just to try to get somebody animated about

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anything. But we are witnessing the end cycle

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of whatever MAGA was. And I think we've been talking about that a while,

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and it is a dangerous place to have a president who's completely

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lame duck, uh, that's still— we've built this,

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um, commander-in-chief, uh,

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persona in the executive branch, especially over the last

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70 years, that's extremely powerful, without— can, you know, wage war without declarations

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of war. Congress has, has completely abdicated its power.

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And abandon its, its moral duty to the American people

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to stop funding wars that are not constitutional and not

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authorized. I mean, we've, we've crossed boundaries that were

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passed in the 1970s and laws. We've already violated the law

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at this point where Congress is not examining the president's,

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uh, use of force over the past, um, 7, 8 months.

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It's supposed to be a timeline of about 60 days,

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and That's it. We have, again, Congress, and that's

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another part about where we are in a budgetary way,

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where we are as far as our fiscal house that nobody talks about anymore.

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These things will matter. They just don't matter right now in

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our political discourse. Like, we're not talking about them because the

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political class doesn't have to. They will eventually, and we

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will be talking about our role in the world. We'll be talking about

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our, our the fiscal house that's on fire and will it burn down by that

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time. So a lot of things are going to change. We're in a, in a

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transitionary period in the United States of America, in my opinion. This is a very

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transitionary period politically. And, um,

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but I, I would, in my opinion, my analysis is

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that, uh, November will be, for lack

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of a better term, historic. Um, we will see a big shift in

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the political spectrum. I agree. I agree with

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you. No, I agree with you. And I think, I think again that there's whatever's

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left, you know, beyond— and I don't think it's going to be because of Trump's

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craziness. I think it's because, uh, the,

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uh, not all the way anyhow, because people that already— people who are the most

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upset about the way he's acting already hated him for a long time. It's people

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like me and, and lots of others that, uh, were giving him a chance or

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still were loyal to him. That he's lost in the last year.

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We don't know how many people he's lost that have decided— and you've tried,

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you've heard them all say, we're going to vote Democrats just to teach the Republicans

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a lesson. And yet the other side, that's stupid, what are you going to do

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that, do you want socialism? And then this, this stuff about socialism and communism

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exemplified by Billy Ray's, um,

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advisor behind the scenes, Mondame, uh, you know, you know, he,

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he's, uh, again, there, that's an easy way to label things.

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But, and I was, I had my guest yesterday, it was Mary Silva, who's running

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for Congress and somehow got the Republican Republican nomination in Washington State. But,

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you know, and I— she's talking about the affordability. I think that's what you need

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to stress. That's the issue. And that's what the— that's why the Republicans

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have no chance, because they're ignoring the affordability issue,

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which— that Mondame, he didn't talk about socialism or communism. He sure

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said free grocery stores and stuff like that. They got people. But his main issue

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was affordability. And as long as the Democrats keep talking that

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way and don't talk about transgender bathrooms and stuff so much,

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they're gonna win because every, every, every— it doesn't matter what party

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you are. Everybody knows how hard it is to get a good job and how

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hard it is to get a raise when you have one, how all the jobs

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don't pay enough. 80% of them— I use that 80/20

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split. You have the managerial class that, that's doing well, but the rest— everybody knows

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that. Everybody that's trying to get a job knows how hard it is to get

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one, to even get an interview. And then when you get one,

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things have changed so much where you don't— a lot of times you don't have

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set hours. They change all kinds of stuff on you. They yank things out

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so you don't get overtime, you don't get raises, you don't have benefits a lot

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of time. That's what— that's what— if the Democrats are smart,

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they'll go back to the party of the working man, which won me over,

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you know, a long time ago as a young man, and talk about wages and

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benefits and pensions and all the stuff they used to have. And they're not

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exactly doing that, but the affordability thing is, is a start.

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And the Republicans have no answer. As long as I see them on X,

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they're saying, well, maybe, you know, they're still doing— if you didn't get Starbucks every

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day, it's like, what are you talking about? How much does Starbucks cost?

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You're not making enough money. You can get Starbucks 3 times

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a day and cut it out. It's not going to make you to be able

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to afford an apartment that's $2,000 rent a month when that's

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80% of what they're paying you on your ridiculous job. You can't do it.

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You don't want to eat, but they're not stressing it. I,

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I, I was a blue-collar worker. I know what it's like, you know, for a

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long time. And, uh, as a young guy, nobody I knew was a blue-collar worker.

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Uh, well, maybe very few rode the bus, but no,

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everybody had a car, had some kind of beat-up car or something. Now the

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reality is a lot of people in that situation can't afford even used cars.

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Nobody's talking about it. So they have to Uber to work. They're losing half

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their pay on the, on the, you know, override, and they're not getting much to

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begin with. That's the issue. If I, if I was running for office, I'd be

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stressing that because everybody can— well, 80% of the people can relate

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to that. But Republicans are clueless. They're still talking about entrepreneurs.

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They're pretending that the COVID shutdown didn't happen and kill all the small businesses.

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They're, you know, and it's— so there's— they deserve to lose.

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And I know how crazy the Democrats are. And I, I fully

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expect when they get in there that they won't talk about any of this stuff

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because they haven't for a long time. They'll just go right back to pushing the,

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the most incredible woke nonsense imaginable and, you know, come up with maybe

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5,000 genders or something like that. They'll do everything they can to turn people off.

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But, but as long as they say affordability and if

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they actually try to do something— I mean, they could start by raising them,

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but the Republicans want to get rid of the minimum wage. I said,

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and I tried to talk to him about that. So what is your— okay,

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if you get— you— do you really think business owners will then pay people more?

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I don't understand what you're talking about. Why would they do that? And then if

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you— they've done studies that show if you go back to like the 1970s when

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I was first starting working, if you look at the minimum wage then, it would

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have to be like— I've heard estimates anywhere from $30 to $200 an hour or

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something to be able to have the same buying power. And it's, it's, it's just

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that it's barely touched. And it's, you know, that's the problem is that most

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workers are not being paid enough to meet the cost of living. And they're,

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believe me, I've, somebody had the benefits I had. I could tell you all stories

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about the benefits that used to exist for blue-collar workers. Now they don't

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exist. They're chipping it away. No pensions. Uh, they, they want to make it so,

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uh, there's a move in the Republicans to eliminate overtime and all

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the stuff we got out of the 1938 legislation. So it's,

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it's not a winning proposal. I don't know what, I don't know what, because what

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can the Republicans run on though? All they can do is run on the war

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with the Iran, and that at least Iran

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doesn't have a nuclear weapon. I don't think that's a winning platform. No, I think

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you're right. Um, I, I do. What's gone

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on with the Republican Party in scale is that

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they've been inundated with disinformation and they've ran with it forever.

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This is their reality, right? Um, and what

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was going on on the left that, that I, I think personally cost them

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the, the, these elections was this identity politics Because people

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were like, this is crazy, right? And they were like, they were alienated

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from that, and that pushed more people towards Trump.

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Um, there's a, a section of

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the Democratic— of, of the Democrat Party that

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has realized this, right? And they are distancing

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themselves, not necessarily, uh,

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alienating that, uh, those, um certain groups

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of people, but they're distancing themselves from the talk of it, making it as

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prominent as, uh, as it was in the past.

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And they're taking, uh, issues like affordability very, very seriously,

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right? And, and things are being done, you know, they are. Well, at least here

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in New York, you know, there are provable things that, that are being

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done here. I don't know about everybody else and what they're going to do,

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you know. I don't know if it'll continue the same way here in New York.

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I'm just saying this is what's happening. Um, but there is the

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establishment candidates like, again, Gavin Newsom,

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whom I have— yeah, you know, we, we got pro— I

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mean, I don't know. I, I think there is a clear difference between MAGA and

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everything else. I think MAGA is the most deranged, the most evil, the most everything.

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Um, but that doesn't mean we don't have, uh, you know,

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our work cut out for us once, uh, Gavin Newsom takes

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over. So if he does, I don't know if he will.

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Um, he's also unliked very, very much by,

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uh, a large portion of people here in the United States. But a lot of

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those people aren't going to vote. They voted for

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Donald Trump. They're not politically engaged.

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They were never politically engaged. It wasn't a thing for them.

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All they cared about was Donald Trump, so that's what they did.

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When Donald Trump is no longer on the ballot, I don't know how this is

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going to work out, but let's see what happens. What's up, Tom? Uh, I think

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that if you go back and look at the history, we started out in this

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country with the, the duopoly of the 2 political factions.

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You had the Federalists and the Anti-Federalists. The Anti-Federalists eventually turned

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into, uh, Jefferson's party, which is the Democrat Party,

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and the Federalists became the Whigs and then eventually the Republican

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Party. In theory, right? You— so you had these 2 push-pulls,

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and they've housed different factions throughout American

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history. If you go back, you know, during the Civil War, the Confederacy and those

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who sympathized with the South were mostly Democrats.

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Then you had the party of segregation was mostly Democrats. The party of,

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uh, you know, pro-war and other things was the Democrats.

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Like, this was, you know, again, this is something that interventionism

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was the Democrats, and then Republicans were, you know, you go back to

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uh, the 1950s. And Taft,

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uh, you know, Robert Taft, he was Mr. Republican. He was a non-interventionist.

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And so this was like, you know, you— that's why you get like throwbacks

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of people like Ron Paul who were like, hey, I'm actually a real Republican.

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We're about to, I think, lose even more of that understanding

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of where the narrative is, like who controls what. Like back in the 1970s,

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early '70s, they had the— this movement. Pat Buchanan called them

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the, the boat people of the McGovern era. It's like the boat people referring to

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like the refugees out of Cambodia. Yes, yes. Yeah, he called them the boat people

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of McGovern. I worked with them when they first came over. That was who was

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working with them in the blue-collar world. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, this was like a

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reference to that, but he— during the McGovern era, he called

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them the— they were the neocons. And the neocons switched from the Democratic Party

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into the Republican Party because of McGovern's call for peace

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and, and all the rest of that. I, I think we're going to see something

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similar with and I don't want to get too in the weeds here,

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but, you know, with Zionism and other things that have corroded the internal

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integrity of the Republican Party, you're going to see a lot of people— not

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a, not the majority, but a big chunk— will just go to the Democratic Party

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just to house themselves there because there's no other alternative.

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That begs the question, will this country see a,

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a dark horse, real third party on the horizon that isn't

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co-opted? I don't know, it's a real possibility. I think you can only

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swing so many times back and forth housing different, different realities.

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You know, you— the Democratic Party used to be, uh, the Dixiecrats,

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and they turned somehow into, you know, the identity politics

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thing, which has been disastrous for them. And, uh, I don't know, it's going to

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be interesting, this election that's coming up and what they'll do with power.

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Uh, neither party does a good job. The Democrats, though,

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generally believe Like they are true believers of their own

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nonsense. So that's, yeah.

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Yeah. That's why I think, I think both parties are so bad that

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they're the only, they have to be because it's the only way people would

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vote for either one of them. The, the, the party in power makes things

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so bad. Well, okay. Well, okay. This is our choice. Then let's take the other.

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We'll give a chance. And that, and that's an indictment on us. There's nobody to

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vote. There's never anybody. Trump was somebody. At first that

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people thought you could vote for. When I first voted for him, I was voting

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for him because of his rhetoric. And I only— I voted

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for Pat Buchanan and for Ralph Nader, and people had no chance of winning.

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But he's the only guy that ever had a chance of winning. I've only voted

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for 2 winners in my entire life: Jimmy Carter and, uh, Trump.

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That's it. Everybody else I've voted for lost every time. So it's— we're

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always voting for the lesser of 2 evils. We have to stop having evil being

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our choices. Correct. It's, um, yeah,

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the, the— we've, we've been forced to, to take the lesser of

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two evils, even though for some reason this time we were like, let's take the

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most evil, let's go there, let's,

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let's just go, you know, with a full downhill,

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right? And, and I mean, you go back and reverse

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the tape. I mean, I, I was agnostic in the sense that I thought,

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well, let's see how it plays out. I mean, we've got literally the, the second

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Trump administration had some real momentum behind it for innovation and doing

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deals. Yeah, it did not. I just said if they really follow

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through on this, we could have some economic prosperity,

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and this is what we got. So they had nothing, bro.

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They never intended to do anything, and they didn't do anything,

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and they didn't have the capacity to do anything. It was a giant

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lie. And even most of the stuff that they proposed,

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even if it got done right, would probably not work. It's a

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different time. We're living in 2026 now. No way

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these people were, were evading the technocrats, brother. It wasn't happening.

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Um, you know, so I, I, I got to give a little bit of pushback

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to the, you know, they had so much momentum, they could have done— they had

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nothing. They had a bunch of people that

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unfortunately, uh, were misinformed and

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weren't very politically active, had no idea what was going on, throw all

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their support behind a freaking charlatan. And that's why

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we're here right now, because the guy doesn't have a clue.

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And that is, uh, exhibited every day,

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every day that goes on, that the guy is out of his freaking

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mind and the people around him are out of their freaking minds

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and they don't care about us. Somebody in the chat said, you know, it's just

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the passing of the baton. I forgot who it was. I left the comment up

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for a little while. Yeah, yeah. Then I took it down. And I understand that

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it's that, you know, it's nobody's taking over, it's just the passing of a

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baton. I think there's new people taking over, bro. It just doesn't

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include us. And that's why it feels like a passing of the baton. Well,

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you mentioned the technocrats. The technocrats are exemplified by the data centers. Now,

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Mary Silva is running against him in Washington State. Both— is anybody—

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I mean, Bernie Sanders has talked about them. I don't know to what extent,

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but that's something the Democrats should be running against. I don't get— I'm sure

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Gavin Newsom loves them because he's, you know,

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establishment all the way. That's something because Trump has put behind— those

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are dangerous. And that, when you talk about the technocrats, I see those AI

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data centers as exemplifying that. Why isn't anybody— the people,

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that's something that the people are protesting at a ground level.

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Why isn't a politician getting behind that? It's a winning issue. But again, because they're

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all, they're all in it together. I think there's

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some politicians that have gotten behind it here in New York. There's been some pushback

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on, on AI data centers or whatever. Trump says we're gonna build them and they're

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good, and if you don't like them, uh, you're an idiot

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and you're poor. That's what— that's what Trump said, almost verbatim, by the way.

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Yeah. All right, let's move on. How much time do we have left here?

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Wow, 12:40. Um, let's talk about

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the Russia situation. Russia, he has— you know, we spoke about this a little bit

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last week, and this has been going on for some time now. They're being aggressive

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towards, uh, um, NATO countries and the European Union.

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Uh, this week in particular, reports have come out about France,

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Spain, and Italy, uh, that they are being

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threatened by Russia. And of course, uh, Lithuania is

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being threatened by a nuclear bomb by Russia. I mean,

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this is, this is where we are right now. Um, I don't understand

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why— I mean, I do understand why they're doing this, but, but, um, I can't—

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there's a mental block in my head why any freaking human being would

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do something like this. But these people are freaking crazy. Vladimir Putin is

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a nutcase. He's a, he's a nutcase on a different

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level than Donald Trump because Donald Trump is an idiot and a nutcase.

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Vladimir Putin is not that much— is not, is not a stupid man.

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He's just a nutcase, you know. Um, so here we are. I'm gonna

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throw it to Tony, then Don, and, and then I'll give my thoughts. What's up,

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Tony? Well, we get into these arguments

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where I end up having to defend people like I guess I'm defending Vladimir Putin

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in some way because of the insanity of NATO and

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the European Union and the United States foreign policy. And I

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guess because I understand the timeline better than the

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mainstream narrative or the mainstream news reports, because the

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restraint that Putin has showed, I'm really thankful for,

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because previous Russian leaders, we would've already been in

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a hot war that would have engulfed the entire globe. I mean, when British

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and American-made missiles supplied by both of those countries,

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authorized by those countries, are fired from Ukraine into sovereign

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Russian territory, striking Russian targets— this is something that never happened

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in the Cold War. We never did anything like that. It would have been unthinkable,

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uh, because of mutually assured destruction. So we've

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crossed a lot of boundaries here. And again, You know, I'm,

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I'm not of the mind that, uh, and I'm not a Russophile, I don't

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work for Russia, I don't know what— I'd like to visit sometime. I think it's

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a beautiful history and a beautiful country. Um, I've always wanted to go, but my

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only argument has been, if you know the, the logistics here,

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if you know that Russia loses about 2 million net people a year

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in population— this is estimated, you know, going back 20, 30 years of

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where we're going to be uh, here in the middle part of this, this,

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uh, century, Russia is going to have about the same amount of people that

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we had in 1947. So they have a massive population decline.

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They have vast natural resources, uh, that is true, and they do have

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a nuclear arsenal, um, but nothing like the mighty Soviet Empire.

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I mean, this is— we're a long way from Churchill's Iron Curtain speech.

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So it seems to me that, you know, with all of the,

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the poking and prodding that we have done, and post,

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uh, Soviet Union collapse in 1990,

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1991, we weren't supposed to expand NATO. We had

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a good faith agreement with, uh, Secretary of State James Baker made with Gorbachev.

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Uh, we broke that. We've expanded NATO. We're right up on their borders. And now

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we have Ukraine, which is, uh, not really a country.

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I mean, honestly, I, I, I'm all for sovereignty. Um, but if you

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look at like the history of that in that region, it's It's the breadbasket

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of Europe. It's always been, it's Russian speaking mostly. It's been associated

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with Russia. It was part of the Soviet Union. Um, to,

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to say that they're leading the charge, they're a proxy. And unfortunately of the Ukrainian

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population having to fight the fight to the last Ukrainian on behalf

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of NATO that really needs to have a, an antagonistic Russia

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for a boogeyman. They need to have something to offset their

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own failures with their economic policy and uh,

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the corner that they've painted themselves into. So I, I— color me skeptical

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on anything where— I don't believe Russia has an aim to

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try to take over Europe. I don't think this is, uh,

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the 1950s. It's not the Soviet Empire.

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And if I was Russia, I'd be very concerned with,

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with NATO on my borders and biolabs and all the things that they're doing,

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uh, through Ukraine and striking,

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you know, refineries and other strategic targets inside Russia. It's a very dangerous time.

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So the mere fact that we don't have a hot war kind of, to me,

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speaks to a lot of restraint. All right, uh,

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Don, what's up, sir? Yeah, I certainly mostly agree with Tony.

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And, uh, again, I think that NATO can certainly be said to have been aggressive

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with Russia by putting, uh, they're trying to put their bases on the border there.

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Said, what will we do if, uh, if, uh, you know, Mexico,

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if, uh, Russia or somebody put bases on our border or southern

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border or the northern border of Canada. So I think again that we

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look at— we have on the left, we still have the Russia, Russia, Russia stuff,

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which I think is nonsense and a distraction. And on the right now you have

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China, China, China. So I don't think Russia or China is the

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problem. I don't, I don't, I don't think anything Putin— whatever Putin does— I mean,

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somebody, uh, Jackson D. Barrett, I think, mentioned he did supposedly

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kick the Rothschilds out of Russia. I think that's pretty good. He's concerned enough about

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his population dying, which we aren't, that he's paying women to have babies.

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I think that's a good thing. I'd much rather have my tax dollars spent

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for something like that because— and you need to pay them because the cost of

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living is so much that they, you know, maybe feel they can't afford them.

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So I think he's done some, uh, he's— I think he's commented publicly saying

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that our government killed JFK, which it did. So he's,

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he's, you know, at this point I'd probably vote for him over most of the

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American politicians I know. Just what little I know of him. That doesn't mean he's

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perfect or anything, and maybe he is, you know, KGB puppet behind the scenes,

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I don't know. But I can't get upset about what he's doing when I see

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what our leaders are doing. Same thing with China. I have so many people

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in my Substack— Putin had a Jewish mother, okay, yeah— but so many people on

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my Substack that, uh, have lived in China and tell me how much better life

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was in China than it is here. I mean, I, I don't know, are they

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all lying? They talk about— and they actually say, and we had— we felt freer

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there. The surveillance wasn't as bad. Now with the AI data centers coming, which— what

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does the right tell us? The right tells us we have to have the,

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uh, the data centers to compete with China. Well, I don't know

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what China's building over there, but again, that's a really stupid argument to

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spy on your own citizens. So I think we're distracted in the left to the

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right. They each have boogeymen, Russia and China. And meanwhile,

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the country— our country is collapsing. Meanwhile, our leaders sit in

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Washington, DC and vote themselves pay raises and are completely

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beholden to another country, Israel, where they have,

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you know, supposedly— I don't know, everybody says, well, maybe they didn't,

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but it looks like they are officially intertwined,

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the militaries of Israel and America. Or that supposedly that happened recently.

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So that's, that's a— that's the end of national sovereignty, whatever we had left of

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it. It's worse than the southern border being open when you're, you know,

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you're combining your military with another country's. That's ridiculous. So We've

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got this going on. We're under Zionist stranglehold. ZOG is a real thing.

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And we've got, as I said, 80% of the people working are not being paid

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enough. And there's no jobs out there. The jobs are— they

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pay so low. And I was talking to people this week, and again, the Republican

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litany is you can't hire anybody. You can't hire anybody that you either can

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pay like an illegal immigrant or somebody that doesn't

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have the experience that you won't train them for. Go into the trades.

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Try going into the trades. Try hooking up as an apprentice with an electrician or

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a plumber or something. They won't train you. Maybe if they're— whatever small

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mom-and-pops are left, which aren't any probably, uh, they might.

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But any big firm is going to tell you, no, no, we have to have

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somebody with experience. How do you get the experience? That's what young people out there

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trying to start are facing now. Nobody in America is talking

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about that. And of course, we had the infrastructure that's a huge eyesore

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and is what makes us the biggest shithole country in the world.

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That we haven't touched it in 60 years. Nobody's talking about

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doing it. I don't know, I don't know what Joe Biden's Build Back Better was,

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you know, and he— but it didn't build anything that I see.

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And Trump has talked about the infrastructure and he's done nothing.

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So we have so many problems with massive corruption at

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all levels, school— from school boards on up,

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and we're doing nothing about it. We're shutting up the same people.

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It's entrenched power. And we haven't even got term limits or anything

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like that. So we have so many problems here in America, not to mention we're

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engaged in— still engaged in interventions, interventions, foreign policy,

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which I don't believe most Americans support, whether it's Trump or

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anybody else. So we're not there. Our representatives are

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not representing us. We have taxation without representation. So I couldn't care less what

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Russia or China does unless they come to my shores and attack us,

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and I don't think they're going to do that. All right,

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fantastic. So let me, let me, uh, provide a little bit of pushback here,

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um, uh, to, to what Tony stated.

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Um, I don't, I don't know if your,

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your timeline is 100% correct.

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Um, and, and, you know, I was a kid when this happened.

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We're the same age, so it is what it is.

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Um, but from, from what I've read Baker,

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James Baker, was never talking about NATO with any of

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this. They were talking about Germany. This was before the fall of

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the, of the Soviet Union, and they were talking about Germany

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moving into East Germany, right? And, and so that

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was what, what was being discussed there. And, and, uh, so this is James

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Baker under George H.W. Bush, right? And of course,

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uh, Mikhail Gorbachev later goes on to admit

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that they never had any conversations about NATO, you know. And this is

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what he admitted. So I don't— I, I know that that trope goes around to

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talking about that there was a good faith, uh,

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agreement between the United States and, and Russia,

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or Soviet Union at the time, that there would be no further expansion of NATO.

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Also, a lot of these, these countries, uh, like,

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like Lithuania, they want to be a part of NATO. It's not

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like the, the NATO was going over there to invade and saying you're going to

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be a part of us. No, they want to be a part of NATO,

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right? And the only aggressor I've seen here is

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Vladimir Putin. The same thing that he is signaling now,

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he signaled before he went into the Ukraine, and he's signaling it now

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against, uh, uh, the European Union. He's signaling

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it now against Poland. They have, uh, um,

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drone attacks some, some hybrid type of war that they're engaging

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in. They're definitely engaging in a propaganda war, which is where

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we get they would, uh,

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take over Ukraine, Ukraine would fall in a day or 3

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days. It's a propaganda war. It's the same thing that Donald Trump said when

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he was going to run to— when he was running for president. I'm going to

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end the war in one day. In one

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day. It's the same strategy here. They're saying they're gonna beat, uh, uh,

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Poland in, in overnight because they're gonna drop a bomb. Good luck.

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Good luck doing something like that. Poland's military is, uh,

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very well stacked, and they've been, uh, ramping up stuff because

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of, of situations like this. And then Putin turns around and

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says, well, that's why I'm doing what I'm doing, because you guys are preparing

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for aggressions against me. So he just turns it around on them when he

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is the aggressor and everybody else is like, okay, we got to get ready because

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this guy is threatening nuclear war, or this guy is trying

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to kill our delegates on the border of the Ukraine, you know,

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and, and, you know, and, uh, and Poland. You know, he, he's,

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he's actively doing these things, and now he's saying they're going to bomb Lithuania

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and, and that Lithuania will fall quickly. They're using the same

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uh, psychological operations that, that they're,

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they've been known to run. So it's, it's— they've done this for

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some time now. Vladimir Putin has been

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explicit on several occasions saying that I

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want to reunite the motherland, the Ukraine

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is a part of us. They also went in there and forced

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elections on, on several parts and said that these people want to be Russian.

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When, when, uh, the Kremlin was running the elections from the

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beginning. And here in the conspiracy circles, we always— oh well, the 2020 election was

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rigged, but that, that could not have been rigged at all, right?

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There's, there's no evidence of that. There's actually more evidence that that was rigged

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than the 2020 election. Way more, you know. Um, and, and these

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are facts as far as I know.

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Anybody could try to challenge me on them. I will change my mind if you

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present something else, but In particular, the, the whole— there was

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a good faith agreement. Even if it was a good faith agreement, that was never

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a treaty. It was never signed. It was never a thing. But I want to

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challenge the good faith agreement. I don't think that was ever a thing as well,

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you know. So, uh, Bill Clinton did say that they would do it slowly,

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that they would, um, move in, that they

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were expanding NATO, but no surprises. And I think he said this to Boris Yeltsin:

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you will have no surprises. Maybe you can challenge that a little

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bit, you know. But I think— and also they said, and I forget in which

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agreement this was, that, um, there wouldn't be

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any, any military, uh, along the borders of these

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NATO countries. And the, uh, NATO kept to that

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promise until 2014 when Russia annexed Crimea,

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and that's when that changed. So Russia was the aggressor there as well,

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you know. Um, so it's like this goes on and on and on, and then

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they say But this— I'll leave it with this. They go, um,

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well, it's, it's— we are threatened by NATO, you know,

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we're threatened by NATO here, and that's why we're doing what we're doing. Um,

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Finland, you know, um, they had, they had

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troops at the border with Finland, and Finland became a part of NATO,

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you know. And, uh, when, when they went

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to invade Ukraine, they pulled all those troops from Finland

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and brought them down to the Ukraine, leaving that border completely open.

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So if there was a threat by NATO to the Russians,

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why would they leave that border completely open? They knew that NATO

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wasn't going to do a damn thing. They knew this.

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They knew this. And that's why they went and did what they did. I,

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I don't understand— well,

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I do understand it as a form of hyper-propaganda,

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uh, that Russia has waged against the people of the United States. I also

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understand it as the deliberate dumbing down of America.

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And this is from our circles,

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and we're all, we're all guilty of it. All of us. Me, I ran the

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Infinite Fringe for I don't know how many years,

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right? And, and who knows how much Russian propaganda I bought into, to the

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point where I was watching Russia Today To the point where I was reading

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a book on Cambridge Analytica and skipped the Russian chapter

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because I thought it was nonsense. Didn't even want to read it. It's like,

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this is nonsense. Everything else is good in this book about Cambridge,

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but this Russian chapter, that's nonsense. I'm skipping it. Still haven't read it to this

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day. I got to go back and do it. But, uh, um, that's my

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point on all of this. This is where I stand. Tony, I'll give you some

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time, uh, to rebuttal. Uh, and then Don gets closing words

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and we'll get out of here. I don't know if I want to rebuttal too

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much. I mean, that may be a misreading of history that there was a— and

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there never was a signed agreement, but from what I understood, there was a verbal

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agreement between Gorbachev and James Baker at

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the fall, at the last days of the Soviet Union, because it was very volatile

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and there had to be some sort of reassurances that if they pulled back within

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the natural borders of Russia and allowed for the peaceful dismantling of

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the Soviet Union, that we would not use that as

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a stepping stone to further engulf

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them and surround them. And, you know, there was a reason

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we had NATO, the North American Treaty Organization, that was started during

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the height of the Cold War and originally run by Eisenhower.

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That was in response to the Warsaw Pact, which they had

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the Warsaw Pact and we had NATO. When the Soviet Union fell, there's no more

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Warsaw Pact, but somehow there's a larger NATO. So I, I think that's another

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thing that always stuck with me. And I mean, you can get into

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these deals where you'd have to defend, you know, an autocrat.

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You have to defend Putin, and you do. I don't really want to do that,

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but I think an antagonistic Russia is a failure

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of U.S. foreign policy. It should have never gotten this,

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this, this way. Um, we had every opportunity

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to make inroads for, uh, trade and peace and um,

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mutual operations of— because of their natural resources and their size and

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their proximity and their borders to China. It just was a long-term—

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in my— it's a long-term play that we botched on purpose to keep

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this boogeyman alive, right? To have— to have something in the region

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that threatens NATO, to give NATO a reason to exist,

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a raison d'être, in my opinion. So, I mean, if you go back to 2007

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with the Orange Revolution in Ukraine, and then in 2014

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Uh, there was, you know, Central Intelligence Agency intervention,

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Western intervention, NATO intelligence intervention in Ukraine.

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It's always just been about keeping ourselves right

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on the borders, uh, in Russia's backyard,

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making sure that we have that antagonistic relationship that continues.

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The Nord Stream pipeline, I mean, that was another— we could have that argument here

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on who blew that up, and it didn't serve Russia to do it.

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It certainly hurt the European Union, hurts the

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NATO country, hurt Germany. Um, but the war

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machine continues. So I, I just put that argument out there that I think that

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the, the entire thing is a botched deal of U.S. foreign policy and Western

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foreign policy, and that's why we're having to deal with this. All right, Don Jeffries,

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closing thoughts, sir? Yeah, certainly. I mean, this is, you know, this is what

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it means to be America First, which Donald Trump doesn't understand. And, you know,

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we, we started— the reason for most of our problems that we have

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today started, uh, really in 1898, the Spanish-American

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War, when we broke the principle that George Washington,

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John Quincy Adams, lots of people— we don't— America is not going abroad in search

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of foreign monsters to destroy. We became globalists,

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we became interventionists, and that World War I especially sealed the deal.

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World War I assured that millions and millions and millions of people

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would die needlessly in World War I because we

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gave our stamp of approval to it and got involved. And that was—

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that sets the stage for World War II, which is inevitable because of World War

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I, and all the wars after that. It's because we have people thinking about— we're

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worried. I don't care what's happening anywhere else in the world. I mean, I,

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I feel bad when people are being— like, even for the Palestinians, people think

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I'm pro-Palestinian. Well, I am in terms of I think they've,

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you know, their country was stolen from them. There's been a genocide in Gaza,

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but I don't want to go to war with Israel to stop it. I want

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to pull the plug and get out of there. And I think the genocide would

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stop because Israel wouldn't be able to do it without our money and our support.

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I, I don't know if Vladimir Putin's good or not. I just know the few

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things I hear about him, that he kept the Rothschilds out, whatever. That's wrong.

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And I think, well, well, well, that's what I've heard. I know you, you have

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your sources, I have mine. But I mean, he's, he's— what sources do you have?

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What sources do you have? What official

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real legit source do you have that says that

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Vladimir Putin kicked the Rothschilds out of— that's the

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problem, is the official sources are the reason the alt media exists, because they're so

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bad, right? Yeah, because the official sources lie about everything. But I'm

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saying, I don't care whether he did or didn't. I don't care what he's doing

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now. I don't care what, you know, China's doing. It's not our

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business. I look at it— we might have— it might be our business maybe if

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we had a great first world country and everybody, every job

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paid a living wage, we didn't have people living on the street and crapping in

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the streets, we didn't have abandoned buildings everywhere that we can't figure out how to

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get people that need shelter into them, we didn't have people that can't afford cars.

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If we, if we didn't have all that, okay, if we had a real healthcare

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system, not a medical industrial complex that people die from because they can't afford

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it, uh, and people, and they get killed from it,

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if we didn't have all these problems, and okay, well, maybe we can afford to

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look and see what's going around in the rest of the world because we've done

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such a great job. You know, that, that, you know, we, we could— we,

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we've done a horrible job. We've created a, a monstrosity here.

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The last thing we should be doing is worrying about Vladimir Putin or China or

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Ukraine or anywhere else. Disengage. Be what Trump claimed

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he was going to be, an isolationist. Trump talked about the globalists just like Alex

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Jones. As soon as he got to president, well, I'm a globalist and a nationalist,

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both. We need to be nationalist. We need to have a sovereign country.

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We need to disengage. Repair your home first.

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If your roof is collapsing and the kids are starving,

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you don't go out and leave them there and walk around the neighborhood and try

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to figure out how to get involved in that stuff. That's my point. That's really

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America first. I don't care about what any of these boogeymen are doing. They're foreign

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boogeymen. America first. All right,

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fantastic. Um, we are gonna get out of here.

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I'm gonna shout the chat out, but I'm gonna let my boys go. Kenny Powers,

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what's going on? I got your email, I will write you back.

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Um, Don Jeffries, no, we'll leave you for last. Tony Arterburn, tell the people where

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they can find you, sir. What's going on? Yeah, and I was going

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to say, in Don's defense, I trying to cite where you get the,

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the, the entire narrative that, uh, that Putin threw

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out the Rothschilds. I have seen over, over the years, um,

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not anything mentioning that per se that was legitimate, but I did see

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where he had, um, a real problem with George Soros.

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Now that's something that I, I think is probably legit, but I don't know.

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And by the way, I don't, I don't, um, take this position because I have

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some sort of political affinity, which you do find in the,

01:01:05.743 --> 01:01:09.112
uh, in the circles of the alt-right and other places that

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defend Russia because of its supposed nationalistic or Christian tendencies.

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I don't do that. I mainly bring this up because I think NATO in

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and of itself, uh, and the governments that it serves, um,

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the, the possibility of war would be to cover up for their

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absolute failures. And I think that's what you got to watch. I think it's

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a propaganda campaign. And, and again, I go back to the failure part of

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we didn't have to do this, which is most of our foreign policy.

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But it doesn't mean that I do— that I, you know, think that Russia

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is perfect or there's going to that they hold the key to world

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survival of liberty or anything. I'm not even close.

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Uh, I just think that, uh, Western leaders are perhaps

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more evil. So let's, let's put it out there then. If,

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if anybody can produce legit evidence— and

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I mean legit evidence, I don't mean Joe Schmo or whomever you were

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listening to that talks about the Sabbatean Frankists,

01:02:07.481 --> 01:02:11.525
okay? I mean real shit. That the Rothschilds

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were kicked out of, of Russia by Vladimir Putin,

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please produce it and I will eat my words live on

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air and say, damn it, I was wrong about that, wasn't I? You know,

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but, um, uh, the thing is there's no proof of that.

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Then people keep regurgitating it and regurgitating it, and that's

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not what we're about here. You know, we don't want to regurgitate nonsense.

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That, that came from probably racist tropes at that, right?

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We don't, we don't want to talk about that. I don't want to talk about

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the stupid Saboteen Frankies, right? I don't want to talk about

01:02:46.689 --> 01:02:50.003
that shit, right? You know, so it's— this is not what, what I mean.

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Ultimately, I'm not saying that you don't get your voice done. That, that's not what

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I'm saying, right? You get to say what you say, but, but I also want

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to do it in a factual way. So if we have the facts, we have

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the evidence to back up that Vladimir Putin actually did this shit,

01:03:02.602 --> 01:03:05.943
um, then great. Somebody please produce it and I will, I will tell Don.

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I will apologize. Like, I'm so sorry, yo, Vladimir Putin did this. And it's,

01:03:09.605 --> 01:03:12.625
and it's, you know, wow, it's, it's the truth,

01:03:12.657 --> 01:03:15.998
right? And anybody in the chat that disagrees with me about Russia, like my man

01:03:16.030 --> 01:03:20.109
Kenny Powers, my dude, it's like wild takes. Not wild takes, factual takes.

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You may disagree with my conclusions on those takes,

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but they are factual. Everything that I've said can be backed up Documented.

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Go look it up. And there were other people in the chat that were like,

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oh, go get educated on the Ukraine issue, Billy Ray. Well, why don't you go

01:03:34.341 --> 01:03:37.534
get educated on the Ukraine issue too? Because it seems like

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there needs to be a lot of education here if we're going to sit down

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and talk about it. I thought it was— there's a lot of us that are

01:03:43.510 --> 01:03:46.672
wrong here anyway, including me, back and forth. What do you want to have,

01:03:46.688 --> 01:03:49.996
the same opinion by all 3 people? I, I like, I like being challenged on

01:03:50.496 --> 01:03:53.706
it. I mean, I don't really— I'm not emotionally invested in it. I just think

01:03:54.206 --> 01:03:57.200
that it's Oh, me too. I mean, I, I don't, I don't, I don't care,

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you know. I know, Chris, I know I'm— I've, I have controversial takes on everything.

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I've been used to arguing with people and defending my positions all my life,

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so it doesn't— I'm not going to change whatever, you know,

01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:11.120
whether Billy Ray or anybody, whatever they think. And, and I'm saying, I really don't,

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you know, I trotted that out about the Rothschilds because I've heard that, but it

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doesn't really matter to me if he did or didn't. I wouldn't feel that much

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if he didn't bring it up anymore if it doesn't matter. Yeah, but, but because

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I don't care. I don't care what he's doing. He's not taking over us.

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He's not. This is the thinking that got us involved in 2 world wars and

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got us involved in a fake Cold War and is still getting us involved

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because of Zionism in stupid Middle Eastern wars. That's why we're over with Iran

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now, because we're so concerned about what boogeymen are supposedly doing in

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other parts of the world. What are our boogeymen doing? I know what they're—

01:04:43.959 --> 01:04:46.945
I could smell Washington, DC from here. I know what they're doing there,

01:04:47.587 --> 01:04:50.863
and it's nothing good. That's right. So that's all I'm saying. That's all.

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But like, people get kicked out the Rothschilds. Like, it's, it's Maybe

01:04:55.240 --> 01:04:58.660
Russia didn't, but I know who, uh, and who definitely didn't.

01:04:59.160 --> 01:05:02.620
Who— well, yeah, exactly. You know who didn't kick them out, that's for damn sure.

01:05:03.980 --> 01:05:07.640
Closing your eyes to world events is not going to make them go away,

01:05:08.240 --> 01:05:10.560
right? If you're sick and you don't go to the doctor, it's not going to

01:05:11.060 --> 01:05:14.280
make it get any better, right? So like, ignoring what's going on

01:05:14.780 --> 01:05:17.620
around the world isn't going to help us, you know? So, and, and that's what

01:05:18.120 --> 01:05:20.680
I think is being proposed here, is that they know, you know, that they don't

01:05:21.180 --> 01:05:25.022
matter. They do. It does. No, but George Washington said

01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:28.330
the, the pandemic, it only happened on your television,

01:05:28.346 --> 01:05:31.813
it only happened on your phone. No, right? Just because

01:05:31.862 --> 01:05:35.008
you're not paying attention doesn't mean things didn't happen. That means

01:05:35.508 --> 01:05:38.460
you're closing yourself off. It's called isolationism.

01:05:38.701 --> 01:05:42.329
That's what that means. You're isolating yourself. I believe in diplomacy like George

01:05:42.377 --> 01:05:45.989
Washington, and I would, I would have diplomatic relations with everyone. I would

01:05:46.489 --> 01:05:49.216
be friendly with them all unless they attacked us. Right. I wouldn't cut off or

01:05:49.716 --> 01:05:53.840
have embargoes with anybody. Look what the embargo said. But no entangling alliances.

01:05:54.016 --> 01:05:57.885
We have an entangling alliance with Israel, and we have an undue concern

01:05:58.385 --> 01:06:01.803
about what's going on in Russia, and to some degree China,

01:06:02.140 --> 01:06:05.560
but more to Russia. I don't care. I care about what—

01:06:05.656 --> 01:06:08.080
why don't we have an undue concern about what's going on in America?

01:06:08.706 --> 01:06:12.318
We have tons of problems. Then we get them fixed, then maybe we can figure

01:06:12.399 --> 01:06:15.674
out, well, okay, these bad things are happening over here. Look at what these guys

01:06:15.722 --> 01:06:18.837
are doing. That's, that's all I'm saying. And that's a real America First position.

01:06:19.399 --> 01:06:22.755
That's true. Flipped it. Flip it over to China.

01:06:22.851 --> 01:06:26.416
There was an article just up with Xi Jinping talking to Donald Trump about

01:06:26.689 --> 01:06:29.820
warning him about Taiwan. And I've talked about this on my show. So take the

01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:33.304
Christian and the aspect of it and the white people and all that stuff out

01:06:33.804 --> 01:06:37.431
of it, the European aspect, and transfer it to Taiwan and

01:06:37.768 --> 01:06:40.872
China. Still not my fight. You know, and I, and I,

01:06:41.146 --> 01:06:45.196
I support smaller countries and I definitely want sovereignty, but you,

01:06:45.277 --> 01:06:48.327
if you're talking about putting American lives on the line and,

01:06:48.730 --> 01:06:52.699
and risking nuclear warfare over really what's an internal issue

01:06:52.780 --> 01:06:56.361
at some level, uh, and historically, because you're talking about the blip on the radar

01:06:56.409 --> 01:06:59.443
of actual time, um, I, I would stay out of that.

01:07:01.386 --> 01:07:04.580
All right, ladies and gentlemen, it's been America Unplugged, and I,

01:07:04.808 --> 01:07:06.927
I love intelligent,

01:07:07.955 --> 01:07:11.633
fact-based pushback. So when, when, when Tony

01:07:11.665 --> 01:07:15.568
pushes back on me and he says something of merit, I take it into consideration.

01:07:16.644 --> 01:07:19.825
But when people in the chat push back on me and produce absolutely nothing,

01:07:19.937 --> 01:07:25.542
and they're, they're citing freaking their favorite podcaster—

01:07:25.944 --> 01:07:29.863
no, I'm not, I'm not doing that. All right, so get it together.

01:07:30.297 --> 01:07:33.475
All right, hate me all you want. That's the point of the show. Not to

01:07:33.491 --> 01:07:36.282
hate me, but it's different, different points of views, and I'm providing mine.

01:07:36.795 --> 01:07:40.581
Think it's crazy? It's fact-based. Well, you're my favorite podcaster.

01:07:40.886 --> 01:07:44.800
You, you and Don. You're so nice. You're, you're so cool.

01:07:44.897 --> 01:07:48.474
This— if I am your favorite podcaster, please listen

01:07:49.004 --> 01:07:53.142
to my latest offering over at Guerrilla Underground where

01:07:53.642 --> 01:07:57.586
I had Dustin Steinhagen on. I'm about to do another one this

01:07:57.811 --> 01:08:01.644
weekend. And I'm gonna drop that. We're gonna do 2, maybe 3. John Brisson

01:08:01.724 --> 01:08:05.012
is joining me, and we're gonna break down all the nonsense that went on at

01:08:05.512 --> 01:08:09.439
a QAnon conference. Yes, a QAnon conference with Steve Bannon.

01:08:10.145 --> 01:08:13.449
Uh, these people, they won't stop because they

01:08:13.513 --> 01:08:16.961
can't stop, like Diddy. Um, but we're gonna do that. So go tune

01:08:17.461 --> 01:08:20.185
in to the Gorilla Underground, gorillaunderground, uh, uh,

01:08:20.570 --> 01:08:24.660
.podbeam.com, Gorilla Underground on the YouTube channel. And, uh, and thank

01:08:25.160 --> 01:08:28.610
you for everybody that's been listening over at Gorilla Underground. Underground, or the, the thousands

01:08:29.110 --> 01:08:32.450
that are still there. I appreciate the hell out of you. Thank you,

01:08:32.950 --> 01:08:35.290
because sometimes I feel like I'm speaking into the wilderness. So thank you very much.

01:08:35.810 --> 01:08:37.690
Tony, did you tell the people where they can find you? I don't think you

01:08:38.190 --> 01:08:41.290
did. Just go to my website, tony.gold. You can find everything you

01:08:41.790 --> 01:08:44.080
need there. Don Jeffries, tell the people where they can find you.

01:08:44.630 --> 01:08:47.270
donaldjeffries.substack.com, uh, just like my,

01:08:47.770 --> 01:08:52.450
uh, podcast I Protest, and @donjeffries on X.

01:08:52.950 --> 01:08:54.670
Boom, there you have it. Where you want to find— are you doing, uh,

01:08:55.170 --> 01:08:58.733
RB Hamm? Tonight? No, not tonight. I had the night off, so usually

01:08:59.233 --> 01:09:01.906
I am, but not tonight. Go get some rest. Yeah. Um, I'll tell you this

01:09:02.406 --> 01:09:06.056
before I let you go. Jackson Dart, uh, um, Jayden Daniels,

01:09:07.034 --> 01:09:10.062
Caleb Williams, all on my teams, all gone.

01:09:10.879 --> 01:09:14.100
Yeah, all gone. Jackson Dart too. Yeah, my dynasty league, it's over.

01:09:14.741 --> 01:09:17.706
I'm done. I'm tanking for the season. It's only week 3.

01:09:18.171 --> 01:09:20.398
Very good, very good. All right, I'm gonna shout out the chat. You guys,

01:09:20.494 --> 01:09:23.819
you gentlemen can leave. I'm just gonna tell everybody what's up, uh,

01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:25.959
before we get out of here, and that's it. Thank you, I really enjoyed the

01:09:26.459 --> 01:09:29.139
show, guys. I'll be around, I'll let you know when I'm done. I'm only gonna

01:09:29.639 --> 01:09:32.679
be like 10 more minutes. Okay, all right, sounds good. All right, all right.

01:09:33.179 --> 01:09:36.559
Dawn Lambert in the chat, how are you? Thank you for being here, we appreciate

01:09:37.059 --> 01:09:40.179
you. Uh, what word spell? Puka out again,

01:09:40.679 --> 01:09:43.999
yo. And you told me last week that Puka was

01:09:44.499 --> 01:09:46.419
out, and I was like, don't do that to me. And I went and looked

01:09:46.919 --> 01:09:50.265
it up, and it said it was questionable. I left his dumbass in my lineup

01:09:50.570 --> 01:09:53.940
and he gave me a zero. I was gonna lose anyway,

01:09:54.405 --> 01:09:56.813
but, um, I did win in another league where I had him and I left

01:09:57.313 --> 01:09:59.156
him in my lineup and he gave me a zero. Thank you for the fantasy

01:09:59.656 --> 01:10:03.794
advice, uh, What Word Spell. I appreciate you. Twisted Pistol is in the chat.

01:10:03.890 --> 01:10:07.613
What's up, my guy? White Wolf, you and I agreed on some things this

01:10:07.661 --> 01:10:11.128
time, and it's cool. You can, you can criticize me,

01:10:11.176 --> 01:10:14.129
you know. I just, just, just, you know, don't get triggered when I criticize you

01:10:14.161 --> 01:10:17.819
back. Right? You got— you guys go in on me. You guys say all

01:10:17.915 --> 01:10:21.076
sorts of stuff about me, and I'm not supposed to react to it, right?

01:10:21.140 --> 01:10:23.996
So when I react to it, just take into account that you guys are saying

01:10:24.092 --> 01:10:27.156
all sorts of crap to me, but I love you. All right,

01:10:27.381 --> 01:10:30.927
Jackson T. Barrett is in the chat. I posted

01:10:31.427 --> 01:10:34.841
a bunch of your stuff today. It's hard to put— to post everything, you know.

01:10:35.002 --> 01:10:37.617
I, I think I posted some of your stuff today. Uh,

01:10:38.130 --> 01:10:41.660
Angel Blue is in the chat. 92 124. How are

01:10:42.160 --> 01:10:45.461
you? Uh, let me see who else I missed. I saw Guard Goldsmith. I would

01:10:45.526 --> 01:10:48.188
challenge a lot of your positions on Russia, Guard.

01:10:49.215 --> 01:10:52.568
So, so let's do that at some point. Let's sit down and discuss.

01:10:52.969 --> 01:10:56.209
I would challenge a lot of it, and I would, I would suggest, uh,

01:10:56.610 --> 01:11:00.604
to have less reliance on Russia Today. I know you love watching that,

01:11:00.925 --> 01:11:03.989
and I used to be there too, but, um, let's talk about it. Let's talk

01:11:04.489 --> 01:11:07.886
about it. John Boxig Leon, who thinks I'm crazy. What's up,

01:11:07.902 --> 01:11:10.851
boy? How you doing? Oh, he just told me to fuck off. Thank you,

01:11:10.867 --> 01:11:13.559
buddy. Uh, I appreciate you.

01:11:14.056 --> 01:11:17.918
We've Read the Documents, that's Jacques Brisson in the

01:11:18.418 --> 01:11:21.636
house. Uh, um, he's got, he's got his, uh,

01:11:22.069 --> 01:11:25.802
his skull, you know, super shiny and shaved.

01:11:25.851 --> 01:11:29.184
He's ready to go today, the dude. We've Read the Documents,

01:11:29.232 --> 01:11:31.780
go check him out. We, We've Read the Documents YouTube channel,

01:11:32.261 --> 01:11:35.790
always doing God's work over there. Uh, Kenny Powers

01:11:36.290 --> 01:11:37.861
is in the chat. What's up, my guy? I'm gonna, I'm gonna send you an

01:11:37.941 --> 01:11:41.568
email. I'll write you back. I've been all over the place. I gotta send some

01:11:42.068 --> 01:11:45.500
people that I have, uh, lined up for shows today. I'll be doing all that

01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:49.593
today, so I got you today. Uh, James is in the chat, I think,

01:11:49.833 --> 01:11:52.530
if I'm reading that properly. James Yonan,

01:11:53.043 --> 01:11:56.574
what's up? How you doing? What's going on? Uh, Brian is in the chat,

01:11:56.638 --> 01:11:59.714
and I know he disagreed with me a lot too, so that's cool. Uh,

01:11:59.795 --> 01:12:03.239
I don't know. Lightning Rod, what's up? How you

01:12:03.255 --> 01:12:06.068
doing? I saw Ashley in the chat, I think. What's up, Ashley? How you doing?

01:12:06.770 --> 01:12:09.634
She at least texted me, so I know, I know she was watching. So if

01:12:10.134 --> 01:12:13.793
you still are, what's going on? Um,

01:12:14.293 --> 01:12:18.351
Karen Carpenter, shouts to you and Jason Barker. I can't see the

01:12:18.400 --> 01:12:22.385
Rumble chat, but I promise I will have it up next week and,

01:12:22.662 --> 01:12:26.159
and, and I'll shout everybody out over there. Chris Graves, God bless

01:12:26.659 --> 01:12:30.301
you. How you doing? Hope you're doing well. Um, and what else? I think that's

01:12:30.801 --> 01:12:33.638
it. There's a lot of repeat offenders here. Raybo, what's up, Raybo? How you doing?

01:12:33.734 --> 01:12:37.007
Good to see you. Um, always nice to see you,

01:12:37.039 --> 01:12:39.767
buddy. I, I didn't see, uh, too much of what you said, but, but,

01:12:39.783 --> 01:12:41.692
uh, I'm glad you're here. Uh,

01:12:42.478 --> 01:12:45.526
NMQ8HM is in the chat.

01:12:45.622 --> 01:12:49.088
What is going on? We should be isolated more. A lot of people believe that.

01:12:49.152 --> 01:12:52.617
A lot of people believe in, in isolationism. I used to

01:12:53.147 --> 01:12:56.904
hold that thought in my mind. I don't know if we can do

01:12:57.001 --> 01:13:00.324
that and still be America first. I think it

01:13:00.372 --> 01:13:03.407
would be a damage on the American people economically.

01:13:04.226 --> 01:13:06.586
I don't think it's a good look, you know, and I think a lot of

01:13:07.086 --> 01:13:09.589
Americans just don't understand that. I didn't understand that for a long time, and then

01:13:10.089 --> 01:13:13.603
I'm like, maybe this isn't the best route to go. So I would

01:13:13.940 --> 01:13:17.103
disagree there, but I understand your point. Let me

01:13:17.603 --> 01:13:21.384
see what else we got. Uh, that's it. I think it's the same people over

01:13:21.884 --> 01:13:25.311
and over again. Brian calling people sheep and hating on me. I got

01:13:25.811 --> 01:13:29.509
a lot of hate today. Dustin Helm is in the chat. What's up, Dustin?

01:13:29.894 --> 01:13:32.153
How are you? I'm gonna hit you up later today.

01:13:33.099 --> 01:13:36.560
Hope you're doing well. Thank you for tuning in. Julian is in

01:13:37.060 --> 01:13:40.791
the chat. What's up, Julian? How are you? Uh, White Wolf,

01:13:40.807 --> 01:13:43.547
what's up, my guy? We agreed on a couple of things, and let me see

01:13:44.047 --> 01:13:47.716
if I can find some more people, and I can't, not right now.

01:13:47.812 --> 01:13:51.193
I'm sure there's more. Oh, Tinfoil Hatter, how are you?

01:13:51.274 --> 01:13:54.514
Appreciate you. Um, yeah, listen,

01:13:56.082 --> 01:13:59.250
let's not talk about the Sabatian Frankists like this shit is a fact,

01:13:59.266 --> 01:14:02.773
okay? I know this shit has been going around,

01:14:05.900 --> 01:14:08.455
right? David Icke brought this up. David Icke has no idea what the fuck he's

01:14:08.955 --> 01:14:12.701
talking about. I'm sorry, I love David, man, but, but This whole Sabbatean Frankist

01:14:12.718 --> 01:14:16.522
nonsense, right? It's the Jews, it's the Jews, it's the Jews.

01:14:16.651 --> 01:14:20.086
It needs to— it needs to stop, and it starts with you.

01:14:22.156 --> 01:14:26.086
You stop it with you first, and then hopefully other

01:14:26.118 --> 01:14:29.924
people will also stop. Now, that doesn't

01:14:30.424 --> 01:14:33.798
mean we don't hold the people accountable,

01:14:34.686 --> 01:14:39.402
but when we start naming entire groups as the problem There's

01:14:39.902 --> 01:14:42.482
a problem there. And, and this Sabatini and Frankish shit is bullshit.

01:14:43.301 --> 01:14:47.712
Um, bullshit. And anyone who

01:14:47.793 --> 01:14:51.659
wants to step up and talk about that shit in any

01:14:52.159 --> 01:14:55.638
sort of way, I'm down. Let's do it. Um, but, uh, but yeah,

01:14:55.670 --> 01:14:59.007
complete and total nonsense, Sabatini and Frankish, and, and,

01:14:59.280 --> 01:15:03.130
and that whole crap that's going around. So just let's remember

01:15:03.630 --> 01:15:07.336
that. All right. Let's get up out of here. It is America Unplugged. Uh,

01:15:07.529 --> 01:15:09.953
tune in to the guys whenever they're doing their thing. Uh,

01:15:10.178 --> 01:15:13.422
Nights of the Storm at 2 PM, tune into that. There's a

01:15:13.922 --> 01:15:15.894
nor'easter going on, so you have no excuse. You got nothing else to do.

01:15:16.376 --> 01:15:18.752
What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do in the rain? Are you

01:15:18.785 --> 01:15:22.237
gonna go scream at the winds? No, you're not gonna do

01:15:22.737 --> 01:15:24.758
that. You're gonna listen to Nights of the Storm tonight. I mean, right now,

01:15:24.806 --> 01:15:27.664
in a couple of minutes, you know. So you're gonna go do that, and,

01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:30.937
uh, who knows. Maybe, maybe later tonight,

01:15:31.771 --> 01:15:34.994
maybe somebody will pop up and start doing a live show.

01:15:35.716 --> 01:15:38.923
Maybe, not sure, but, but keep your eyes open

01:15:39.423 --> 01:15:42.387
and your ears open. Those that have eyes to see and ears to hear.

01:15:43.734 --> 01:15:47.182
My name is Billy Ray Valentine, sometimes known as Billy the Kid. You know

01:15:47.246 --> 01:15:50.373
where you can find me. All right, we're getting up out of here. Everybody be

01:15:50.873 --> 01:15:54.061
good. God bless you. Thank you for tuning in to America Unplugged. It really means

01:15:54.561 --> 01:15:56.741
a lot to me and to the rest of the boys. Take it easy now.

01:15:57.271 --> 01:16:01.143
Bye-bye. Hold on, I gotta end

01:16:01.643 --> 01:16:05.513
the broadcast and I can't do it. It won't let me. And we're still

01:16:05.562 --> 01:16:08.770
on the air. We're still on the air. We're still on the air. We're still