#244 America Unplugged -Plumber Hero or Political Psyop? Flight 1073 and the Election Spin

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Donald Jeffries, Donald Jeffries, author of Hidden

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History and Survival of the Richest, host of The Donald

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Jeffries Show. Billy Ray Valentine, Billy Ray Valentine,

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host of The Infinite Fringe podcast,

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researcher, truth seeker from the Bronx, New York.

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Tony Arterburn, Tony Arterburn, radio host, combat veteran,

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precious metals analyst, and alt historian.

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Together they take on the headlines of the week, decode disinformation

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and plow through the mainstream propaganda,

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unauthorized, unscripted, and unintimidated.

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This is America Unplugged.

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This is America Unplugged from the Bronx,

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New York. Researcher, truth seeker.

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No, my name is Billy Ray Valentine.

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What's going on? I hope everybody is doing well, uh,

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everybody that's listening on the podcast, everybody that's watching wherever you're

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watching. Rumble, I see you, I see you, Rumble. Today somehow

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we managed to get Rumble in, in the chat here on StreamYard today.

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Good job, good job, Tony Arterburn, who said this.

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Cool, I hope you can do that for my show too. Cool, that's great.

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Yeah, right, we should be able to do— I'm gonna rewire all of that stuff.

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At some point and figure, figure this out. Not that I know what I'm doing,

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but it worked once when I did it, so let's, let's try it

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again. Anyway, uh, Tony Arterburn, the wisest of all the wolves,

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is here with us along with Don Jeffries, of course. But, but Tony, what is

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going on? Precious analyst, beardo. I'm a beardo too,

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according to— absolutely a beardo.

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Uh, warrior poet. Yep. Uh, oh,

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historian. Chihuahua. What's that, buddy?

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I'm a Chihuahua owner. Matter of fact, she's right here. This is—

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I'm in downtown Denison today in Texas in my shop, and they have

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outside my window is Fall Fest. All these

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booths that we got. We have the Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Tube Man out there

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today. We Buy Gold guy, he's, he's flying all over

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the place. The radio station's here. That's dope. What else

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is out there? America Unplugged Live outside. We— that would have been fantastic.

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I, I'd do it outside too, and then you You can see, you know,

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the hood here. We, we don't,

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we don't have a festival going on, but I love those festivals. Like, do you

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have a booth? We've got, we've got 2 booths outside. We're, you know, the radio

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station's here, the local, uh, Katy Country is

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here. That's dope. That's dope. Are they selling food?

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We got some food. I think there's, you know, you, you can find 6

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different ways to get high cholesterol out there. It sounds like my type of place.

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I think they got— you ever get— you ever had a fried Coke? You know,

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they sell the— no, a fried Coke? Yeah.

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Is that a thing or are you making this up? State Fair of Texas.

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Don't Google it. They have all sorts of crazies. I'm sure they have something

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like that out here, or you can at least get a fried Oreo.

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Fried Oreos are good. Yeah, I had something like that. But anyway,

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Tony Ardaburn, the wisest of all the wolves, is here with us today. We are,

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uh, you know, honored and privileged to have him here today,

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ladies and gentlemen. And the legendary Don Jeffries is here. What is going on?

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Tell the people what you're wearing. They obviously want to know. They want to know

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about the shirt. They want to know where you can see the black. It's probably,

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uh, you know, maybe out— I guess now that it's fall, I don't know if

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it's appropriate anymore. My— I think my wife's my fashion consultant usually,

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so she'll probably tell me if it's wrong. But, uh, and she gets credit for—

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I never buy anything for myself, so, uh, I get these shirts from my wife

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or my daughter or my sister-in-law. And I appreciate the people that pay attention to

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them. It looks good. It's fashionable.

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It's not, you know, it's not in season, but Don Jeffries can pull

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that off. If I did that, it'd be the end of the world. Everybody would

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say, what are you wearing? It is the fall. You know, it's not

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the summer, you idiot. But since you're wearing it, it's all good.

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And everybody else will start wearing Hawaiian-style shirts as a

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result. Okay. A lot of stuff went on this week,

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as per usual. Do we want to start off with the crazy?

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I mean, it's all crazy. But what's the craziest, right? Do we want to start

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off with, uh, with, with the flight? Where was this

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flight going? And it landed in Israel, right?

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Don, do I want you to explain this first, lay it out, and then we'll

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talk about it? Well, I don't know the exact particular— to me it looked like

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it was, uh, you know, kind of a, you know, they remake films all the

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time, you know, so this was kind of a remake of Flight 93, I think.

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It was from Dubai to Tel Aviv. Yeah,

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yeah, Air Dubai or something. But, uh, and I've been asking it, how do

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you say let's roll in Hebrew? I don't know if the guy, the plumber,

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came— it was an Israeli plumber. And, uh, and he's thoughtfully,

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when he later, when he met with Benjamin Netanyahu, he kept the bloody shirt on

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he had. So I thought it was kind of like Jackie Kennedy, you know,

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back in the day. But so I'm not— so that, you know, that proves it,

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I guess. And, you know, I think Netanyahu was kind of pointing at him when

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he did it, but I mean, just And the thing, I don't know if that

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was an attempted false flag or what, but I mean, it, they don't work

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now. Nobody pays attention to them, especially with the Zionist thing. It's so

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obvious that, uh, literally he, he could have said let's

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roll in Hebrew or whatever that is and it wouldn't— they could, they could have

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come up with an Israeli name and that was close to Todd Beamer, you know,

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nobody would, nobody would care. So, but, uh, people just kind of shrug. I didn't

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see anybody There must be somebody, I guess, that thinks

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it's real, but nobody I saw on X, I think pretty much 100%,

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just said, how ridiculous can you get? I don't know, maybe somebody

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thinks it's real. I don't know. I want to be Jackie Onassis. I want

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to wear a pair of dark sunglasses. I want to be Jackie.

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Oh, oh, oh, oh, please don't die. You get,

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you get a chicken dinner, a free one. If you can figure out where

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that's from. Tony, Tony, I saw the wheels spinning.

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I think you know, you should know. Don't tell the people, and if

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you don't know, tell us later. Anyway, so let me give you a little bit

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of background on this. Uh, September 30th, FlyDubai Flight

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1073, 1073, from Dubai

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to Tel Aviv, and apparently the co-pilot

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who was from Oman apparently stabbed

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the pilot and, and tried to pull— put

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the, uh, the plane in a nosedive. It was a Boeing 737,

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uh, and it had a 17,000-foot, uh,

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you know, fall nosedive. Um,

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the pilot apparently was able to open

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the door to the, to the, to the pit, and, uh,

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people saw what was going on and charged the pit. And,

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uh, the, the big hero was the plumber. That, uh,

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you know, he was— and, and apparently he stabilized the plane as well. He like

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just pulled it up, you know, um, in order to— for it not to nosedive

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anymore. Um, but, but, uh, nobody, nobody died,

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you know. Um, and, and the guy's been apprehended, apprehended.

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And when the plumber landed in, in Tel Aviv, I think Netanyahu was waiting

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for him and, and hugged him, you know. And, and with

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the bloody shirt, very, you know, they had the whole the whole

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picture set up like Trump and, and the ear thing, you know, that did,

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you know, for, for fans of that. Um, and, uh,

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then Netanyahu gave him a 5-star review on his,

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uh, plumbing, uh, services as, as a show of

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good faith. Uh, Trump also praised him, and,

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uh, and Modi, uh, praised him as well.

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Um, it sounds really crazy I wasn't there,

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clearly. I don't need to be there. I didn't want to be there. Listen,

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I don't know what the hell went on. It, it sounds extraordinary.

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That doesn't mean it didn't happen. Peter C.

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Koshis, he says— he— I know he studied this a lot more— he said apparently

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the plumber watched a TV show, and that's, and that's

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how he knew how to pull up on the controls. Yeah, it was a very

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basic move. It wasn't, it wasn't anything crazy. I think anybody would have done that.

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Common sense. Well, I saw it done in the airplane— wasn't the airplane—

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the air, uh, airport movies? I think Karen Black landed a plane one time.

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Actresses were great at doing that back in the day. They could always land planes.

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Always a stewardess, always a hot stewardess too, back when they had hot stewardesses.

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It happened on airplanes once.

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Yeah, yeah. And this was shockingly right before the elections.

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I know it's an amazing coincidence. So, uh, I guess Netanyahu was hoping to get

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a, a jump out of that, but, uh He definitely capitalized

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on the moment, right? At the bare minimum, he definitely capitalized on the moment and

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said, you know, let me be there and let me hug this guy. Let it

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look relatable. Let's get some pictures out. Let's pump them out there and, and,

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and let's see how this makes me look. I don't think it's gonna save him

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in any way, um, but who knows, right? The weirder things have

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happened. Tony, this is what happened. Literally, I, I,

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I literally just read off a news report

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Um, this is literally what happened. The co-pilot stabbed him. There was

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some oversight as to how he got hired. Apparently they've been warning

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about this guy for quite some time, um, and, uh,

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he couldn't get a job where he was originally,

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but somehow there were some loopholes and he got this job, you know. So they've

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been warning about him since 2024, from what I understand,

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um, and he literally stabbed this dude. I don't know, he doesn't have—

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at least to my knowledge, I did a little bit of digging— he doesn't have

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any ties, any admitted ties to intelligence

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agencies or the military complex of any country. I couldn't find anything

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like that, and no one's come forth to say that. Uh, so that,

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that it might just be a random thing. I don't know. It sounds really

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crazy to me. And this is where conspiracy theories start up because

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it sounds so freaking crazy. People look— did he use a box cutter or a

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plastic knife? I have no idea what he stabbed him with. I know that they

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have the freaking murder weapon. I, I don't know what it was. Let me look

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this up. Go ahead, Tony. Well, I think the, the point that Don made

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is, is interesting too. It's— it— nobody really cared.

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And it's almost like you're— if you're going to probe the perimeter of

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the, uh, consciousness worldwide to see how people and

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countries, uh, nations react to a news

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story, this would be a good way to do it. Like,

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the absence of what has always

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been told is going to happen when we attack Iran

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or we have a war in the Middle East and that there's, you know,

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this boogeyman out there, which I know that there is,

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you know. I mean, obviously Islamic terror exists. I mean, that does— that is something,

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and it certainly exists when you invade their countries and you try

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to occupy it. And I've dealt with that, so I understand that it, it is

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real. The jihad is real. At some level though,

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wouldn't we expect a lot more of it? You know, it's a strange thing

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that we don't have all of this, like the caliphate and all this stuff

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that was predicted many, many years ago that never came to pass.

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It's the absence of that that's always bothered me. It's almost deafening,

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the silence of it, that we don't have— sleeper cells are still asleep.

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All the sleep, all the stuff, the catastrophes that didn't

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happen, I think, which, which again, it could be on

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the horizon to happen. I mean, there is such a thing called blowback,

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which is a natural extension of intervention and killing people

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and murdering people with drones and hitting wedding parties and all this stuff that we

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do. But, uh, I'm so desensitized now, even when I

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see these kind of stories, like, I, I immediately reflexively

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think false flag, this isn't real, this is meant to put me

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in some sort of psychological column where I support,

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uh, the United States or the American Empire versus Islam

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or whatever, right? And I think this is the— that's the interesting part about what

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we're seeing in the aftermath of this. And I don't know, I mean,

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the, the researcher in me automatically thinks this

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is BS, or there's some level of this is just a hoax, or some

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sort— it's overblown, or whatever. I mean, you got to think about it,

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the, the level of skill you have to get to be an actual commercial pilot.

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Now, this has happened before, and I know there's another instance— it was years ago

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where the guy flew into the side of a mountain. Like, it was a commercial

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pilot, uh, that had— I think he was Islamic,

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you know, but it also might have been dealing with, you know, mental illness or

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whatever. You got to be next level.

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I mean, this is suicidal to a point where not only are you going to

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kill yourself, but you're going to kill everybody, and it's all of a sudden you're

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going to do it. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it really is a far stretch,

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you know, to really get there, to, to get me to get on board to

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say this is a real event. It could be— like, I'm with you, Billy— it

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could be real. It seems, uh, very convenient,

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and it didn't do much, which is the other thing, you know. Like Fox News,

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you know, and I— the algorithm feeds me this stuff, but I, I don't even

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have the mental capacity to really pay attention to it because I think it's

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mostly BS. And they're— and they obviously utilize that to say, well,

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Islamic terror is such a threat, and Iran and these sleeper cells,

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and this is why we have to be, you know, Um, in this forever

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war, uh, with Islamic jihadists. I don't— again,

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there's something with it I don't like, and, uh, it obviously

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was used as propaganda. Uh, we shall see if anybody really digs

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into it. I wonder if it'll, it'll hold up under scrutiny.

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You know, you said a, a couple of things there that are, are powerful.

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You, you spoke about, um, you know, the sleeper cells

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and, and a couple of other things that we were warned about, and, and The

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thing that pisses me off the most about that situation and how,

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how we were freaking scared out of our minds,

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uh, well, not all of us, but you know, that was the intent, um,

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is that it never happened.

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And you said the silence is deafening on it, right? And but that doesn't mean

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it won't happen. And when or if it does,

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it's the boy who cried wolf, and people are gonna be like, nah, it's not.

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And then boom. And, and, and that's what I hate about

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the propaganda, and that's what I hate about this psychological warfare

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that's been thrown upon us, because it's inevitably gonna come. It's not like these things

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aren't real, it's just they're being used at every opportunity

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for political gain. And, and that's my biggest issue

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with it. Um, I, I looked up the, the weapon

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here. It's a, it's a, a crash axe.

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Apparently— damn, this is, this is some serious thing if he got stabbed with this

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thing. Good Lord. Um, it's an axe, for lack of

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a— you know, it's a straight-up axe. All right, so apparently this thing is kept,

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is kept in the, in the cockpit of, of airplanes,

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uh, for emergency purposes. So that explains how he

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got his hands on something like this. But, um, damn, you know, God, God bless,

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uh, that poor guy who got stabbed with this thing. Okay,

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Richard Reid, the shoe bomber. Remember that story?

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And the guy, he had a handler, and that was never allowed to

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go to trial. Like, the Lord— there was an attorney there that wanted to testify

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that there was a man in a suit following him before the flight, like,

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watch, observing him, like, even up until he attempted to light

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his shoe and all. Like, the guy was obviously like a plant. And we,

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and we had— we changed our entire security apparatus over that. That's when

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Michael Chertoff ran the, the the Department of Homeland Security,

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and he was in on the contract that would eventually get you all the

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body scanners and all that stuff. And then you had to take your shoes off.

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I don't know. And why— what is the deal?

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I sound like Jerry Seinfeld. What's the deal with airplanes?

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It's like you're also capitalizing on people's fears of like

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being isolated, you know, 30,000 feet above the earth,

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you know, traveling at 700 miles an hour or whatever. There's something about that too.

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I don't know, it's just, it's so, it's so overplayed and overblown. And it could

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be, again, I could be real. I like to have some grounding and reason,

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but at this level, who knows anymore? Well, and it's

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the, you know, the boy that cried wolf thing is a perfect analogy. When you,

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when you lie, when you claim things so many times and they're, they're so easily

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seen through, and they always serve the same purpose, like the scripts

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are this, it's just like the, um, The, uh, the school, uh,

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this— the, uh, the school shootings that are,

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you know, the acts that they, that they do at school where they have,

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uh, what do you call it, uh, drills, school shooter drills,

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that every— not every school, but lots of school systems across the country

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have done. They're always staged in politically correct terms.

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It's a homeschooler, it's an angry gun nut, something like

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that. It's never a deranged feminist. Or something like that. And the same thing here.

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I, I might believe it if they suddenly said, you know what, a group of

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crazy, uh, Lindsay Clancy toxic feminists took

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over a plane and said destroy all men or something. I mean, that might get

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my attention. I'd say, well, they've really flipped the script there because it

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always serves the same purpose. And, and most of it serves the purpose of

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saying we have to watch out for these terrorists, which of course are Israelis

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Israel's enemies. It's always that way. There's never, you know,

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it is— are they ever going to publicize a plane full of Mossad agents that

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say, you know, death to all Arabs or anything like that? It never works that

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way. And it's so easily seen through. I think that's why you have so many

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people that are just kind of shrugging at this. And of course, the way it

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just coincidentally takes place right before the election when Netanyahu is seen

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as really unpopular over there, supposedly. Well, this could— much as people said

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back, you know, the Trump butler shooting, was that supposed to jumpstart?

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I don't think that had any— maybe, maybe it got him some votes, I don't

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know. But it was the same kind of thinking there. Okay, well, you know,

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people are, you know, feeling sorry for Trump because somebody tried to shoot him and,

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you know, he cut his ear and everything, you know, it was— he had the

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bandage on and everything, so you had to vote for him though, right? So maybe

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that was it. Maybe Netanyahu will, you know, get shot in the ear too or

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something. But I, I think people That's the one— that's the

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best. Much as Trump's fake news served the purpose of making

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people look at our media critically, even though he's just calling whatever he

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doesn't like fake news, at least knowing that, people realize, well, okay,

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they lie about something. Maybe it's only what Trump says. But in,

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in terms of these, these, these psyops and these false flags,

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people know about psyops now. They know the word. They know the word false flags.

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They didn't know it in 1898,

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if they remember the Maine, or 1918 with Lusitania, or Pearl Harbor. No, but nobody

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thought of those people. They started thinking of them kind of with weapons

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of mass destruction, but now they, they at least— they can't

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really think critically, but they look at that and they realize that that's always a

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possibility with them. Okay, especially if you— when you see

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a plumber with, you know, a bloody shirt and Netanyahu's standing

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there grinning, you know, he's so happy and everything, shaking his hand and everything

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right before the election. So I think it just serves that purpose that people

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at least know, thanks to the conspiracy theorists of the world, that,

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uh, that it puts doubt in their mind. At least they're a little skeptical.

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Most people, not all. Like I said, I, I would like to know,

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I would bet not 10% of the public

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accepted this at face value without some doubts. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the

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impression, at least on social media, that's the impression I get. No,

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I, and well, we're on X and, and that you're not going to find people

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that are sympathetic to not many people that are sympathetic to mainstream

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narratives there. So you're gonna get fed exactly what you want to— what you want

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to hear on X, you know. So that's the wrong place to assess things like

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this. But I don't think you're wrong, uh,

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you know. It just sounds so fantastic, right? Like,

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it's— or fantastic or whatever, it sounds extraordinary.

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Like, how— I mean, and it was in any case, but just

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to look at it and hear it, it's something out of a out

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of a storybook, right? Something out of a movie, right? So, and that's what

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it looks like. And, and nowadays people automatically default

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to it was a movie, you know, it was fake, this isn't real,

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and what are the motives behind it, you know? Because, uh,

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conspiracy for better or for worse has spilled over into the mainstream,

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man. And, and so that, that's what, that's what we have right now. So I,

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I look at this event, man, and I see it Um,

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I, I, I, I don't, I don't know.

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It's, it's— is, is it possibly real?

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Yes, right? You know, um, all the other questions that

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people are asking, you know, I mean, and, and, and this

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is where like unfounded claims come in. You, you have to back them up if

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you're making a claim. You're making a claim, you have to prove it.

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You are making the claim. If you are the one making the claim, you have

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to prove that claim. Right? So if, if you're making these

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claims, if people are making the claims that, you know,

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this was a staged event or whatever, you do, do the work.

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Don't just say it, you know, back it up with

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real evidence so that we can all say, okay, damn,

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they were absolutely right, and thank you for doing what you do,

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instead of just, you know, blurting it out there. This goes

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for everybody. I'm not talking to anyone in particular. What's up? But But, but no,

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but I think, you know, again, it's, it's, it's especially upon average citizens who

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can't, you know, first of all, they don't have the wherewithal to, to find any

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kind of evidence, especially when you have a controlled press that doesn't, you know,

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it's not, you have to, you can file Freedom of Information Act lawsuits for things

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and get redacted documents back. That's about all you can do. You can't,

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so we, we have pattern recognition. And so we see things and we see the

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same thing over and over again. We see a pattern, critical thinking. Which most

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people don't do. Conspiracy theorists are— you may not like

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the way they think, but they're capable of critical thought. Most people aren't capable.

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Most people see something, authorities— if you look at every local

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newscast, I mean, I can't watch them and I haven't watched them for years,

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but when you do, they've always been the same. Their reporting

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consists of authorities say, officials say,

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police say. All they're doing is quoting authorities. They literally have no

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capacity to question anything. The police chief comes on

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and says, well, Chief, uh, what do you think? You got the right man?

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That, that's the extent of their— of their— they, they have no investigative

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skills and they're not allowed to investigate anything. So when people see that

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stuff, they're— they see through things really easily.

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Something like a Seth Rich shooting or something where they're going to please, you know,

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authorities say there was no— it was an attempted robbery where nothing was stolen,

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just like the Starbucks murder, you know, years before. Odd, odd to do

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that. And, uh, and, and then their family will sue you if you say anything

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else. They're cool with nobody— not just using that as an example— nobody— them not

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knowing who killed their kid. That's, that's normal for most families, right?

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So people see the pattern recognition. Okay, and he had some kind

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of connection to the DNC and Assange or whatever, so that seems strange.

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That's what critical thought is all about. So people put those things together.

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Is that evidence? No. But the, the evidence they're throwing out at

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you— because they're supposed to be giving the evidence So when they give the evidence,

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like in this case, they're presenting something which has very,

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very similar plot elements to Flight 93, and let's roll.

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And again, I've, I've investigated that up one side and down the other. People can

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read about it in American Memory Hole. That's got, you know, it's— I don't know

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what happened there, but I know what they said happened didn't happen. And so when

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you look at that, okay, that seems awfully familiar, and it's right before the Israeli

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election. The guy shows up with, you know, dramatically— I mean, why wouldn't you change

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your shirt? Unless you're trying to make a show. And, and is Netanyahu

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really waiting for him there? Really? The president of the country, you know, goes and

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waits for him? That's a Trumpian move. So people can look at that and they,

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they just— that's just critical thought. And of course, they're, they're jaded

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now to where we don't believe anything,

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you know. You know, the, the, uh,

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Haggard and Karen— Karen said she appreciated I didn't

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use her name in describing the the feminists that might take over a,

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uh, an airplane. I, I won't do that again, Karen. You made me think about

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that because you're good, and I don't want to— I don't want to defame your

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good name. I don't know why they thought of that name either, but, uh,

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you know, unfortunately, that's like, you know, why did they think of Don's Johns,

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you know, for the pod? You know, I don't like that. But anyhow,

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that's, that's my thought. I mean, that's, that's— I just, I just think that,

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uh, I don't trust anything. So my, my— as Tony said,

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my first, my default setting is to assume it's fake

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or certainly not the truth until proven otherwise. And I, I've been studying

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these events going back to the Revolutionary War, and I

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haven't found anything they told the truth about yet. I mean, I don't know what,

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you know, what maybe did happen, but I know they lie about everything. And so

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I just assume they're not going to start telling the truth at this point.

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So that's my— I'm throwing it to Tony for, for, for last,

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uh, last thoughts on this subject and then we're moving on. But, uh, you know,

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we can't, we can't cherry-pick the process here, right? It's, it's like,

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okay, that we're common people and we don't have the wherewithal and we don't

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have the ability to investigate. If you make a claim, it is on you to

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prove that claim. You don't get to just make the claim and, and, and just

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walk around like nothing ever— well, like, I can't do it, I can't, I can't

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research, right? And then, and then we say, well, there's no We can't

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trust the experts. We can't trust these people. But you're not doing anything to

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change it on your end either, right? You know, and so there's

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this distrust of

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experts here in this world, right? But meanwhile,

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you get into your car, you know, you trust the people that made

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it. You know, you buy your food at a supermarket, you trust that to a

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degree because you're ingesting it. When you, when you cross a bridge,

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you trust that it's built properly. These are other people that are doing it.

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These are experts that are doing these things, right? So, and, and I don't,

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I don't mean to say that we shouldn't question, you know, we can question

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these things, but once you're starting to make a, a claim, and in particular if

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you have a platform to spit out that claim, it is

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on you to prove it to your— well, speaking for me personally,

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Billy, I, I source everything I do. I,

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I analyze evidence and use it. My, my books are

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I have hundreds and hundreds of footnotes, and I use mainstream sources whenever I can

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because I know people are going to say, well, that's not— you're using The Spotlight,

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that's an anti-Semitic newspaper. So I try to use mainstream, and you

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can most of the time. And I just, I analyze and observe to the

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extent I can. I make observations. They did— this is what they say,

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this is what their evidence is. Does it make sense? You heard Don Jeffries.

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You heard Don Jeffries. I don't want to hear anything from anybody anymore.

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Billy is sitting there regurgitating mainstream talking.

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You heard Don Jeffries, I use mainstream articles to source

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my books. He just said— and it's not because I trust him,

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but because you can— they— everybody does it. It's buried there.

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You can do it. I'm not blaming you in any way. That's what you should

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do. That's what you should be doing in order to back up your claims,

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you know, that, that— so I'm not, I'm not blaming you in any way for,

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for doing that. Um, it's just that people here think

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that, oh, we don't get anything from the mainstream. You get everything from the mainstream.

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Everything. Everything you believe, you get it from the mainstream,

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100%. All right, Tony, what's up? Well, um, all of

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us do, and it allows you whatever information you can gather. If you're

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going to look at a subject matter, you take every source you possibly can that's

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credible, if you can source the credibility, and then you make a decision. That's That's

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what the analysis business is. You, you cannot have complete

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100%— that's godlike powers where you just know what happened, you know what was in

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the mind of someone, or if you know an event was real, like you watched

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it happen in real time. Uh, that's the only way to truly

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know. I mean, so we, we make our best analysis based on history,

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based on what's happened before. And my issue with this

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event is diminishing returns. That was the term

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that I thought of earlier in the show, is diminishing returns.

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People are, are very consumed now with the

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amount of change that's happening so rapidly in our culture around the world,

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not just American culture but around the world. Financially, there's a massive

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burden on everyday people. Uh, there's a big shift culturally

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around. So all of that's happening, and your mind can only process so much at

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once. That's why I thought it was interesting that even something— it's a big event,

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but we have all these other events that are happening Our news cycles

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are so fast now, like they're so rapid. It isn't

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like, you know, the 1980s where a story pops up and then it's talked about

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for weeks and months. No, it's talked about for 48 hours max,

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right? You know, because the next story's dropping,

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because that's the— we're at that critical mass,

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right? The tipping point of, of, of a change.

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And that's that we're in what you call cyclical, it's a fourth turning or

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whatever you want to call it. And we're at that apex right now. And so,

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so much is happening, it's hard to keep up with it. And I think people

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are so inundated and numb, um, it's going to be hard

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to sway. That's why, um, what, what frightens me,

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I say, or gives me anxiety about the future, is that

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they would need, like the PNAC documents from September

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2000, they would need a Pearl Harbor-style event

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to catalyze, you know, to to, uh,

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form some sort of like new war effort,

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you know, like to catalyze the entire population.

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That's, that's the issue. I think they would need something much larger.

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And, and, and so to me, it looks like a probe on the perimeter

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of, of psyops in some way to see what kind of return

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they could get for, uh, for a false flag. That would

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be my conspiracy brain thinking. All right,

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fantastic. Um, what do we want to do next,

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guys? Let's do this. Ask me about the Iraq War ending a

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couple of times. Who? Peter. Peter Sikosh asked me

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about that. Go ahead, address it. What's up? What happened? Well, he— in a couple

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of the comments— funny because there's a— I say funny, it's actually really true.

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I know what you mean. Everybody knows what you mean. But, but the antiwar.com

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had an article up, says, good night Baghdad, U.S. troops leave Iraq

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after 23 years. And you might be thinking, wait a

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minute, is this the Mandela effect? I thought we already left Iraq like back there

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in the Obama administration. But no, it was still there. Um, and actually the

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most important aspect of what this means, because you had the, the Green

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Zone built in Baghdad, which is larger than the Vatican,

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like we had like this territory that we had constructed,

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um, during the time that I was there, and 23 years ago by the

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way, um, that was this massive fortress, you know, that we built

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in Baghdad. Um, and again, it's like its own country.

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Uh, apparently we're officially finally leaving. But this goes

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back to what Tucker Carlson was telling, uh,

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Trump to his face before the Iran

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War started that Trump launched, that, uh, one of the goals of

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Israel, not only to destabilize the region and use us as

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a cat's paw If you know the myth of the cat's paw where the monkey

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uses the cat to get the something out of the fire, you know, he actually

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uses a, a third party, right? So the cat's

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paw is us. But one of the goals for starting this war was to

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get us out, all right? So they knew that as soon

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as we hit Iranian targets, that Iran would respond

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to U.S. targets. And a lot of our bases have been abandoned,

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this being one of them. This is a direct outcropping of

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the war in Iran, is us leaving, probably not on schedule

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to get— because it's too burdensome to retain security

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there. We're going to have something we can't, you know,

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we can't explain away, like our inability to protect ourselves in

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these regions, in this region. So I think that's something interesting that

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Peter brought up, is that yeah, we did officially leave uh,

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Iraq, but it's something that Tucker was

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telling, uh, Trump, you know, and Trump laughed it

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off basically and said, well, in the end we all die anyway. He didn't

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even care about— he knew that that was the goal. Like, Israel not only wants

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us to expend our power and our credibility and

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our lives and blood and treasure, but they also want us out of the region

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plus destabilize it because you're talking about you know, this deluded

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Greater Israel project thing.

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Um, so they want us out so they don't have interference, and that's one of

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the consequences. And, and still Tucker Carlson supported

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and, and, and put— I mean, I know this came after the fact, but he—

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I mean, what, what, uh, what Trump said to, to Tucker, according to

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Tucker, you know, but, uh, instrumental in, in getting the

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man into the White House, and now he's actively trying to cleanse,

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uh, uh, JD Vance in your eyes,

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serving him up on a platter for all of you is, is what he's actively

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trying to do. Um, I, I just don't trust

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the guy, although it was an incredible AI show that you guys, uh, should go

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check out that he just did with this AI expert. It was fantastic.

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So there is some value there, um, but mostly,

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uh, nonsense. Or, or,

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you know, agenda-driven, yeah, uh,

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material that, that he puts out. There's no way anybody's going to convince me

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or anybody like me that JD Vance is good, uh, ever. So that's not

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going to work. But if that's the case, if the team wanting to do that,

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um, but I do believe him that he's trying.

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Oh, I believe him too. It doesn't take too— it doesn't take too

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much for that. For so— I mean, of course Trump would say that.

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You hear the crap that he says on a regular basis, you know, it's not

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shocking anymore to hear something like

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that. He doesn't— he has— which is so— which is just a side note,

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which is so— if he really believes that, if he really believes— well, he's— if

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he's so fatalistic like that, like, well, in the end we all die anyway,

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well, not— why not take on the deep state? Like, why not die

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on that hill? Like, that doesn't make any sense. Like, if you're willing to risk

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all your power and your life and your credibility and your presidency and history willing

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to sacrifice that, why not do some good with it? I'd be all for it.

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Uh, but you're gonna do it— he can't take on himself,

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right? Be very difficult to do. I mean, I guess you can't— the enemy,

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and the enemy is us, right? That's right. You know, I mean,

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I, I guess you can make an argument he is sabotaging himself at this

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point with everything that's going on. Uh, uh, one person that is actively trying

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to screw things up heavily for his party and his people Uh,

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Pete Hegseth. Oh my gosh. Uh, we knew it was going to be bad,

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but did we know it was going to be this bad? I don't know.

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I don't think anybody thought— I mean, I thought it was going to be bad.

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I thought this guy's an idiot, but Jesus Christ. Um, let's play this

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clip. Um, he infuriates me almost as much as

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Stephen Miller, maybe on the same level. Um,

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Jesus, what an idiot this guy is. All right, let's play this real quick,

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and then I want to get Tony's, uh, uh Tony's opinion on this

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because he's certainly targeting you, Tony, okay? And you

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served in the military and he's saying that, you know, no more,

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no more Tony Arterburns. Anyway, let me see. We are no longer

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the woke department or the weak department.

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Simple translation, translation of that: no fanny,

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no fatties, no trannies, no beardos, no weirdos, no wimps,

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no radicals. Just warriors. Just tough,

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ready, committed troops. The War Department,

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as you know, is colorblind, gender-neutral,

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and merit-based. Or as the president likes

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to say to me, Pete, central casting. I want central

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casting. We are no longer the woke department. There you go,

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Tony. No weirdos, sir. Um, that means no you.

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You can't be there. No weirdos, no trannies, no nothing. I'm not saying

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you're any of those things, but you're a, you're a beardo for sure. Yeah,

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for sure. Yeah, we're going to get rid of all those, uh, those warriors

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that I met, uh, in, in Afghanistan and Iraq from Delta,

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you know, with the, with the beards that are running, you know, that we're doing

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all the heavy lifting out there in, in Tora Bora and other places. So good

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luck with that, Pete. Um, you know, it's interesting,

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I go back to what's so funny about all of this, um, with Pete and

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his tenure is that, you know, you need, you need Congress. I learned this from

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Thomas Massie. I didn't realize you need Congress in

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order to change the Department of Defense to the Department of War. They're literally window

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dressing this right now. Like, this— there's been no real change on the

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actual name of the, of the War Department from the Defense Department.

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Uh, so it's just funny, like, he's LARPing.

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He is a LARP. And, um, his fake weird Christianity thing,

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his crusader vibe, whatever he thinks he is.

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Um, he's an embarrassment. I mean, you got

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blood on your hands, uh, at the end of the day. The, the 170-some-odd

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Iranian schoolgirls that were hit, uh, with that first round of strikes

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on the— this unnecessary war, right? Uh, you'll have to answer for

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that someday spiritually. Uh, and I, I do think, and I have predicted

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that this will be— especially you wait till

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after— it's about, what, 30 days from now when

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there's a blue sweep. Uh, and it's not something— I'm

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not going to vote blue, guys. I just know it's happening. Like, you can't stop

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this. If there's any validity to elections, then what you're

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about to see is going to be historic. And that's on top of all the

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apathy. So like, people aren't— it's like you're going to have a bunch of red

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state people stay home, don't care, and you're going to

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have a lot of people that are animated on the other side, and then a

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lot of people in between that are just like, whatever, just not the same team

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because they've driven up, you know, gas prices so high. We have this insane

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economy and, and leadership, and we're all over the place. It's schizophrenic.

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Hegseth will be on the chopping block for that because you will— we'll

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go back to something I predicted, which is that the Venezuelan boat strikes

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when we were hitting people, uh, and you see that it's kind of like

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the collateral murder video where you're just like, oh, these are going on, by the

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way. They're just not in the news, but it's still going on to a degree.

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A couple of, a couple of weeks ago something happened. Go ahead, sir. Yeah,

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so my prediction was, and I, when I saw that, I'm like, oh,

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you wait, this will still, this will be a thing. You dredge that back up,

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it will come back. And so I mean, you're watching something, this is,

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uh, it's akin to a LARP, and he's not really going to change

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the culture at the Pentagon. And that's not the way you do it.

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Um, that sort of language, I, I just don't agree with any of that.

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I don't know what a beardo is, but that's funny, uh, knowing all the

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special operators that had beards in, uh, in Afghanistan and Iraq that

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I, that I worked with. Um, just not— and

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I know that we've, we've had, you know, the previous administrations,

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especially the Obama administration, where you— and there's a lot of

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weird rules that were laxed and other things. It's not the same military

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that I was in. Uh, but we should be a peacetime military.

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We don't need to be in all these wars anyway. I mean, this would— we

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could regroup and reform, um,

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in the, in the peace that our previous generations had won us.

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And that's that we squandered all of that. So I don't know, I, I don't

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support anything that Pete Hegseth does. Oh well, I'm glad

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you don't. You know, that's hard to support, uh,

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what a blithering idiot does like that. I mean It's,

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it's, uh, it seems like, like a really harsh criticism,

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but the guy is certainly— I mean, really, really way above his head,

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uh, to, to be in such a position. And we should be the,

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the Department of Defense, not the Department of War. We've, we've evolved

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past that, right? Although, you know, the United States has done a lot of atrocities

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throughout the world with their military. I'm not, I'm not negating that.

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What I'm trying to say is, moving forward we shouldn't do that.

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We should be defending, not attacking, right? And I know they'll twist

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that and do whatever they want with, with those words, but, uh, I mean

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them in the actual sense of the word. Well, and I know Don knows this,

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and I don't want to stay on it too long, but the reason— the whole

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reason we went from the Department of War to the Department of Defense is because

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Truman dropped the bomb, and he realized we lived in an age of

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nuclear weapons at that time. So he wanted to change, at least in structure and

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like the wording of it, so that we didn't seem like we were a War

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Department anymore. And he actually changed the seal of the presidency of

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the United States. Truman had the, the eagle facing away from the arrows and

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torn it towards the olive branch. That's why the— even the president,

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the president's seal changed after 1945. Truman did that. And gosh,

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Truman's not perfect, obviously, but he dropped the bomb and realized that the consequences of

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that in an age of nuclear weapons. And I think we would, uh, be better

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off adhering to some of that wisdom. It's not It's not something that I

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think you, you dick around with, especially in a LARP. 100%.

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He's talking about righteous violence, this dumbass that, that we

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have right now. Anyway, um, Don Jeffries, what's up, sir?

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Yeah, certainly. I mean, Hegseth is, uh, I, I remember watching him

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on Fox News sometimes and just, I, he seemed just kind of like all

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the other talking heads, or I didn't know he had all this in him.

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But, uh, it's interesting how all the things he complained about, the fatties and the,

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uh, Amazing. Where's the fat shaming people? I'm surprised they

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didn't get trouble for that. But, you know, tattoos kind of go along

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right with that, and he's covered in tattoos, so I guess he exempted that

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since he's covered in tattoos. But just incredibly classless,

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the guy. He epitomizes Trump

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2.0, where there is zero class in most— and he's the most

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classless of all. But I mean, I really am amazed that he

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and Trump and maybe the others have just not dropping F-bombs

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left and right when they're talking, because we're at that level now.

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It's an idiocracy. And he— I don't even know what he's talking about,

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but he's trying to— wouldn't he recently saying that it's, you know,

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it's, uh, all these young guys, you should want

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to serve, it's a privilege to serve, and all that stuff? Again, again, trying to

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prepare people for the draft. But he kind of alluded to why they can't have

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a draft, because there are a lot of fatties. There's so many people on the

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autism spectrum, so many people— as RFK

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Jr. said, 70% of the young, young people of draft age could not serve,

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either because physically, emotionally, or mentally they had so many issues.

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And so I think that's the only reason they really haven't done, you know,

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done it and, and created World War III. So Hegseth, I don't

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know who he thinks he's talking— has he looked at the country? Has he seen

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what, you know, what the young people look like now thanks to, you know,

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the absurd culture we've built and the, the horrible processed foods

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and the diets and everything we have? Does he know? Do you think everybody's like

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him that, uh, you know, that is running around doing a bunch of push-ups all

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the time? But it's just, you know, it's— you're not going to find me

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defending somebody like him. But, uh, he's— it's, uh,

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it's, um— Dustin Helm said, I feel singled

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out, Don. No, I'm not saying about anybody, but, uh And,

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uh, and it's a good thing, you know. That's for once the problems of the

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young people came in handy, you know, because, uh, it's— who wants another

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war? But it's, it's just a fact. But so I don't know who he's talking

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to. He's like, he's, he's talking from 100 years ago or something.

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He's not looking at the— and with a bunch of ridiculous tattoos which don't fit

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into what his alleged conservative mindset— but neither hasn't he been married 3 times too,

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Tony? I think, uh, like most of the people, I think it's a rule that

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Trump, like his spiritual advisor Paula. That, uh,

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is she married to some, uh, rock drummer or something now?

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She's— I mean, it's, it's absurd. Who can defend anything about this

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administration other than RFK Jr., who I still cling to because he's standing in the

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corner with his speech thing and he just— I don't know what he's trying to

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do, but, uh, he's got Rabbi Shmuley behind him, you know,

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you know, basically pointing a yarmulke at him or something, but I don't

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know, that, that's— but yeah, you're not gonna— I certainly agree with you guys about,

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uh, Hegseth. He's, he's a complete lunatic. Yeah, well, I'm glad

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we can agree on something. Now something we're probably going to disagree with.

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We've been agreeing this whole show. We can't have that. We need to

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disagree, damn it. People need to get pissed at me again.

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Um, otherwise it wouldn't be America Unplugged. All right, let me bring this up here.

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Maybe you guys will agree with me. Who knows? Maybe we'll agree the entire show,

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in which case Uh, hello, freeze-over. Marjorie Taylor

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Greene, my MAGA crush, um,

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is, is again, you know, I think she's slowly climbing

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out of this. I think a lot of her is still invested in what

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got her into the position of power that

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she was in, you know. Uh, she believed a lot of crazy things, and I

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think the, the, uh, exposure to the political

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process and being behind the curtain, and she's seeing things for what they are in

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a way And I think this will continue with time.

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Maybe it'll take a long time, but, uh, the process is on. Anyway,

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she, she tweeted this out and I thought it was spot

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on, right? So there's— there was, uh,

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I think this was this week, there was a whole, um, a thing

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about 400 people from Honduras,

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uh, a caravan, right, that was coming over. And the,

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you know, uh, right-wing accounts put it out and it, it spread like wildfire,

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right? Uh, and they have footage of,

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of it. Well, here's a picture of some of them. It's about 300 to 400

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of them walking. Uh, I don't, I don't think they ever made it close to

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the United States, but Marjorie Taylor Greene jumps on this

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and she goes, uh, we have not seen a caravan headed

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to the U.S. southern border in several years. Why now?

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Oh yeah, there is an election coming and the GOP

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needs to scare you. Into voting because nothing

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else is working. And I think Marjorie Taylor Greene is

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spot on, and I thank her for making

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the analysis because that's all these people do is

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fearmonger and fearmonger, and they scare you into going to the polls

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because the crazy— the, the, the brown people are coming and they're going

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to take your jobs, right? Not, not AI, not, not, not Peter Thiel that's about

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to occupy the presidency of the United States by de facto. Not, not that.

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Um, it's the brown people, you know. And, and she

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very astutely pointed out that they are using this— not George Soros,

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not all of these— the Republicans in particular, the far,

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the far-right ones. Um, they're using this

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in order to get you to vote. For Marjorie Taylor Greene to come out and

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say this— and I know she's, she's pissed at Donald Trump, and,

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and a lot of these people like a Tucker Carlson, like a Marjorie Taylor Greene,

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who who have come together, right, along with Thomas Massie and

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several others. They're like, we're going to come together and we're going to make the

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America First Party. I'm very distrusting of that,

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right? So their motives are in question here, to be

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sure. Uh, regardless, she brings up, uh, uh, an excellent,

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excellent point, because it would be counterproductive for George Soros

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to pull something like this off right now. Maybe after the midterms,

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right? If, if you believe that whole narrative, which I do not, as long as

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far as you, you know that I don't. Right? But if

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it were true, if I was doing things, I wouldn't do them right now.

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It doesn't make any sense, right, to, to get people to turn or give

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people a reason to go vote. Tony, uh, mentioned earlier,

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these people, a lot of these so-called Republicans— and we're

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going to put it that way because there's a difference between MAGA and Republican,

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and that's important to note, right? So a lot

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of these so-called Republicans are not going to vote. They never intended to vote.

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They They don't care. Steve Bannon tells you all the time,

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low propensity voters. That means they don't vote.

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They came out for Donald Trump and they're not going to come out for Donald

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Trump anymore, at least not now. You know, I don't— I mean, I don't

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think they're going to come out for him in— well, he's not on the ballot

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unless he decides to run. We'll see what happens in 2028, but they're not going

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to come out for him. His approval rating is so low. Every indicator If

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any of this is on the up and up, like Tony says, it's not looking

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good, right? So I don't think these people are going to come out and vote

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regardless. So it would be a good— a bad look to ignite a fire on

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them right now. Um, the only one that this benefits,

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the only party people that this benefits, is MAGA.

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Who benefits, right? We say that all the time. Who benefits from something like this

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being publicized throughout the interwebs,

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throughout Facebook, throughout um,

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Instagram and on the mainstream media? Who benefits

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from something like this? Tony, what's up?

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Tony, you're muted. Muted out of your burn.

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There you go. Oh, bomb. I somehow— I think Pumpkin did

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that, my cat. Uh, MTG is right to,

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to call this out and to be skeptical of this as a non-organic event,

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but Something I learned from Robert Kiyosaki, um, he said,

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you know, the, the, a coin has 3 sides, not 2, not just

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heads and tails. The 3rd side is the edge around the coin.

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So you could actually take this and spin it a couple of different ways.

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One, uh, we realize at this point, I hope all of us do,

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that the same groups and international bankster class

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fund both parties and both political movements for their own ends,

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whether it's caravans of people, or whether it's,

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uh, using tho— that excuse to create a national

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police force through something like ICE, uh, some— which

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will have nothing to do with immigration, right? It'll have nothing

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to do with the immigration enforcement. It's about totalitarian crackdown.

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So if you spun this in another way, which I agree with MTG,

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that, um, this would be a way to galvanize what, what little

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is left of the, the MAGA base to get out and vote and say,

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well, you know, something's, uh, definitely afoot here with all these caravans

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are coming again like we saw in the first Trump administration.

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But you could flip this in another way. Let's say the response

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is so over the top. Let's say that's a humanitarian thing,

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uh, happens, or God forbid, you know, there's a violent

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response to the caravan or something. It would galvanize another set

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of people that are just tired of this. They've seen— we've watched the response from

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all this over-the-top stuff from ICE and all these internal things going after grandmothers

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and all the stuff that they've done. And the stuff that spilled over into the

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protesters, uh, to the ICE raids. So I don't know, it could

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be used by both sides. But one thing that we need to understand, because this

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is America Unplugged, this is not organic. Like,

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these aren't organic things. In order to move hundreds of people or

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get people in a, in a uniformed way or any sort of organization

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to that, you need funding, you need direction. There's something that was put

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together. This isn't like a family that bonded together

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and they're going to try to cross the Rio Grande to find a better life

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and working opportunities or fleeing political oppression. This is an

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organized event. What is organic

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is the need. What is organic is the desperation.

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Well, it's not organic as far as how

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it was caused, but this

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is real and we shouldn't negate Uh, the struggle of,

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of people looking for a better life, you know, that are coming

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up here. You know, that, that is real, you know, and,

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um, I, I am intimately involved in it,

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you know, so I, I see it, I, I know it, right? It's a real,

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real struggle that George Soros doesn't have to pay people to,

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to move, right? It's not going to take very much to

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get people to move. Is there some level of organization here? Yeah, it looks like

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You know, um, uh, but, uh, does that mean it's, it's a,

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it's a hoax or it's a big, like, uh, event,

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uh, in order to sway votes? I, I don't, I don't,

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I don't, I don't know if there's enough evidence to, to claim that.

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Uh, regardless, I see your points, Tony. Um, Don Jeffries,

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what's up? Well, I don't know why you think I would just— I would disagree

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with you on this, Billy. Uh, no, I mean, I, I think these— because,

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you know, I think that's the whole immigration thing has turned into obviously

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a huge fraud. And, uh, this guy, you know, that, that picture

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of the caravan— what— and, you know, they can— they come up with these code

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words. Caravan, like they used to compound at Waco before they killed all those people.

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You know, strong Panamanian strongman. You know, they come up with African warlord.

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They come up with names. So it's a caravan, whatever the hell that is.

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I thought a caravan had to be riding on something, but it always looks like

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the same picture to me. And so it might be, for all I know.

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I, I don't know. And it's, you know, I have people that, that are really

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down the rabbit hole that follow me that say, you know, there's nothing going on

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at the border, it's all fake. I said, okay, maybe it is, I don't know.

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But I do know that, yeah, that, that obviously came

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just like the, the, uh, the Todd Beamer, you know,

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Israeli plumber with the bloody shirt coming right before the Israeli election.

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This is being used, and maybe it'll fool a couple people and say we

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better vote. I mean, and they're not thinking because, again, I, as I mentioned before,

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the show, one of the claims that Trump has done— because

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I keep, you know, I keep saying, what has he done? He promised a mass

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deportation and all these— he killed a couple citizens and terrorized

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maybe some non— some real citizens. I don't know what the hell he did,

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but I don't see any— apparently he's deporting fewer people than Joe Biden,

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which I, I don't think is— I don't know how that's possible, but that's

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what the claim is. But as far as, uh, well, no,

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he sealed the border. Okay, so if he sealed the border,

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then what's the care— what are we fearing a caravan for? The border's sealed,

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right? So it doesn't make any sense. But, you know, people that would vote for

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that, I guess, aren't going to use logic, critical thinking. But yeah, MTG is— I

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don't— she said she's not a Republican anymore, so I don't— I don't know

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what the hell she is. But she's, uh, you know, we'll see if that third

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party gets off the ground or it's like every other third party and gets

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co-opted and never gets a chance or whatever. That'll probably be the case. But no,

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I don't There's nothing to, to disagree with there. I mean,

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you know, Trump— immigration was his keynote, his key issue.

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He's dropped the ball on it from the beginning, and because he never, he never

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did it the right way, and he never, he never did what he— I mean,

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it's an, it's an easy problem to solve. You, you, you,

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first of all, you, you couple government benefits with citizenship

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status. So someone's here that's not supposed to be here, they can't get government benefits.

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That's an easy— that's what Californians tried to do back in the,

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uh, the early '90s with Prop 187, and they— a federal

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judge overturned under judicial review, which neither side talks about. I'm the only one talking

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about that. The Republicans are serious, they talk about the power of the judiciary.

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That's why, you know, Trump, uh, you know,

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he did pass an executive order banning birthright citizenship,

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but his Supreme Court voted against him, as they always do, because that's what Trump

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does. That's the Trumpenstein Project. But so this, this has been

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a nightmare in terms of that. And you also have, uh, going back to 1986

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and Reagan with his disastrous amnesty bill, uh, they traded amnesty

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for employer sanctions. You know, the place I worked

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at for the healthcare institution in the 1990s had scandals where the

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entire housekeeping unit they found out were illegal immigrants. And, you know,

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there's a big scandal about it. They just fired the guy. So that was 10

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years or whatever after They supposedly had employer sanctions. So they never did

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anything that they claimed they were going to do because they want the cheap labor,

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obviously. So the whole immigration thing is a joke. And let's

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put, let's put it this way. If, if you, for the people on the right

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wing that are voting for that, if you suddenly didn't see that

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problem, if you, if you, if you didn't look around and say,

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God, there's a lot of illegals around here. If you, if you didn't see that,

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then the issue dies, right? So it's, you have to have it there.

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Much as you have to have crime and all that kind of stuff, to whatever

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degree, you have to always stress that it's really bad.

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And on the left, you have to stress that racism and transphobia—

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you have to, because without that, what are people going to vote?

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You're not going to talk about, you know, 80% of workers not getting paid enough

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money. Nobody's going to talk about that, about workers' wages

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and benefits. I'm the only one talking about that. But now, so I, I agree

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with you, Bill. I'm sorry to disappoint the audience, perhaps. And damn. Disappoint the show,

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but, uh, yeah, what can I disagree with? 100%.

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The whole show, we all agreed. Sorry to

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disappoint you guys. It's a, a paradigm-shattering show

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for so many people. They don't know what to do with themselves

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right now. Tony, listen, we're about to get up out of here. I, I— we

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have a new review that, that came in last week, and I, I didn't see

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it till earlier, till, till sometime this weekend. I can't pull it up. You see

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if you can pull it up, Tony, before we get out of here so we

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can read it. Um, and, uh, and I'll shout out the chat. I'll stay a

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little longer than the guys. The guys gotta go. Don, if you gotta go,

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um, you can, or you can stick around and react to the review

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that we got. Oh, let me hear the review, then I gotta go. But yeah,

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sure, let's hear it. All right, in the meantime, tell the people where they can

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find you. What are you doing tonight? Uh, oh no, I'm not gonna— I'm off

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from, uh, RB Ham's, uh, Beyond the Pale. But you can catch

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it on his Rumble channel, Beyond the Pale, 10 PM Eastern. Um, nothing special.

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I'll go out to a Greek restaurant as I do every Saturday night, but,

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uh, donaldjeffries.substack.com. And not eat Greek food, of course.

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I'll get a hamburger.

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donaldjeffries.substack.com. I protest,

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just like my weekly podcast, 5 PM Eastern here

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on the same platforms. And you can follow me on, uh, @donjeffries on

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X. Go ahead, Tone. I've got the review.

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Uh, all right. Best place to hear the truth.

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I've been listening to this podcast for a couple of years and there's

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no better place to find out what the machine wants you to know and what

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is really going on now. Uh, Billy, is your— your

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blue is beginning to show a little bit, especially on the September 11th program.

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Oh, hold on, let me pull this up. Sorry, this is Apple. A lot of

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what you, you regurgitated came directly from the machine. It can be difficult

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to shed the programming. All in all, keep up the great work,

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gentlemen and Ashley. Uh, and then he has a quote

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from Stonewall Jackson: When war does come, my advice is to

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draw the sword and throw away the scabbard. P.S., I look forward

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to hearing you read this on the show and Billy getting all

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defensive. Well, another— another—

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sorry, it fell short. Billy's not going to get defensive either with Everybody, should I

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even respond to this? Should I even respond, Tony Arterburn?

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Let me know. I don't— I mean, maybe we're not

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responding. It's a free subscription to The Machine, The Machine magazine.

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We want it to be organic. We don't, we don't want it to be like

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the caravans, right? We wanted to be an organic response, you know.

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Don't, don't write things like this. You want me to— you want me to get

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defensive. Don't write that and I'll get defensive, like, oh no,

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you know. We've shattered paradigms here today,

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ladies and gentlemen. What is up to everyone listening, everybody in

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Rumble, everybody wherever you are? Donald Jeffries the

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legendary is out. Tony Arterburn, the wisest of all the wolves, tell them what's up.

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Oh yeah, take care. Yeah, thanks, Don. Uh, did Don

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shout out his Substack? Yeah, he did everything. Uh, I was

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gonna do that for him if he didn't. Uh, you can find me at tony.gold.

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Just go to tony.gold, you find all the links to the shows and Wise Wolf

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Gold and Silver and everything, and you can message me there. You want me to

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talk about anything next week on the show. And I don't know why, somehow I

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just noticed that last week's show didn't get loaded to the podcast feed. I don't

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know if that was a glitch. I definitely loaded it, but I don't know why

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it's not showing. I'll get these up. Sorry about that,

01:00:06.371 --> 01:00:09.961
folks. Right, we'll load both of them for whatever—

01:00:10.058 --> 01:00:13.809
for whatever reason. I don't know, things happen sometimes. Um, will they

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get to talk to Tony Ardern? Yeah, if they call.

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Sure, just maybe. Yeah, look at that. Can I

01:00:22.669 --> 01:00:25.790
speak to the coach? And then can I speak to

01:00:26.290 --> 01:00:29.530
the Wolf? You've been answering all my calls and then she'll screen

01:00:30.030 --> 01:00:32.750
them, so you got to talk to Beans first. You got to say, can I

01:00:33.250 --> 01:00:36.850
speak to the Wolf? Otherwise it's not happening. You got to ask for the Wolf,

01:00:37.350 --> 01:00:40.570
right? Yeah. Tony Arterburn, go do your

01:00:41.070 --> 01:00:42.470
thing, buddy. Let me— I'm gonna shout out the chat and then I'm gonna close

01:00:42.970 --> 01:00:45.702
out the show. All right, okay, sounds good. Be good. Later. Talk soon.

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All right, everybody, let me see who's here. I saw my man Twisted in

01:00:50.584 --> 01:00:54.181
the chat. What's going on? Twisted is a rebel, a rebel

01:00:54.681 --> 01:00:58.291
from, from the West Coast, from California, showing all them

01:00:58.791 --> 01:01:02.033
people in Texas how it's done. You know, they're sitting down

01:01:02.466 --> 01:01:06.786
shining their, their guns on their porch while Twisted

01:01:07.286 --> 01:01:10.607
is running like a madman, like the Ultimate Warrior in the

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'80s, you know, running to the ring screaming obscenities at everybody.

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What's up, buddy? How you doing? Uh, hope you're doing well.

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Kenny Powers is in the chat. What's up, my guy? I'm not far

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away from, from, uh, uh,

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Port Authority. I'm, I'm about 40 minutes out, you know.

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Um, I'm gonna write you in. I'm gonna respond back to your email anyway,

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but that's, that's what's going on. Peter C. Koch is in the chat.

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What's up? How you doing? Hey, heads up.

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You know where to reach me. You don't got to go to Facebook. I don't

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have a Facebook account, never have, you know.

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Um, so you know where to reach me if you disagree with me, man.

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Don't be a bitch. Don't be a bitch about it. Hit me up,

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right? Don't go over there screaming into the wilderness. All right.

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Uh, Kenny Powers is in the chat. What's up? What's up,

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Tin Foil Hatter? How are you? Dustin Helm, my guy.

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How are you? What's going on? Think,

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change, repeat. And we're doing it again, and we're doing it again.

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What's up, Ashley? How you doing? Ashley,

01:02:13.959 --> 01:02:17.556
Knights of the Storm later on today, 2 PM. She should join us

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next week. I'm gonna ask her to join us. That doesn't mean she will.

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She has stuff to do. She's a busy person, you know.

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She's freaking trying to tame an owl and

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make it her pet. She told me this. I believe her.

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All right, uh, Kenny Powers is still there. What's up, Dustin? Angel Blue,

01:02:35.942 --> 01:02:39.482
how are you? She said we had a great show, interesting discussion. I'm, I'm happy

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about that. I don't know if you're a she. I don't know why I assume

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you're a she. Sorry about that. Peter Fogel, who definitely is a she.

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Piper. Piper Fogel.

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Um, what's up, Piper? How you doing? Did I, did I say anything

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to upset you? If I didn't, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to let you down.

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Next week I promise I'll bring the heat and you can get all pissed off

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and defensive. Angel Blue is still

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there. Uh, TCC TY2Y,

01:03:06.858 --> 01:03:10.514
I forgot what they told me that meant. Something from Connecticut.

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TC from Connecticut, I think that's what it is. What's up? Thank you for being

01:03:14.250 --> 01:03:15.766
here, we appreciate you. Uh,

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NMQ8HM, how are

01:03:19.551 --> 01:03:22.997
you? Greetings and blessings. Uh, let me see, Joe Perks.

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Joe Perks 1472, good Lord, how are you?

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What's going on? Thank you for listening, we appreciate you. Genie's in the chat again.

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Let me see who else. I don't know if there's any— anybody else. There's a

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bunch of repeat offenders. Um, I think that's it.

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I think that's all we got. Guard Goldsmith, what's up? How are you?

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Um, shouts to Wayne McCroy, how you doing?

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Uh, Colin Wysong, who typically listens after the fact, what's up my

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guy? Thank you, we appreciate you. All right, all right, all right, all right.

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That's it. We're getting up out of here. Everybody be good.

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Um, that's it. I think that's it. I think

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that's all we got. Um, I did record a new episode of

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Gorilla Underground. I did an interview. I gotta edit it, you know,

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and I'm gonna throw that up on the pod— on the podcast stream

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and on, on, um, my YouTube channel.

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And I have to upload, um, a couple of, of stuff on Rumble, so I'll

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do that. And I'm gonna go live at some point. Is that Tony? You're back.

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I'm back. I was gonna play the outro. Oh well,

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just in time. We're done, so don't burn the place

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down while we're gone. Let's play the outro.

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Thank you.