#245 America Unplugged - Streamed Executions? Pete Hegseth's Controversial Call Ignites Outrage

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Donald Jeffries, Donald Jeffries, author of Hidden

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History and Survival of the Richest, host of The Donald

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Jeffries Show. Billy Ray Valentine, Billy Ray Valentine,

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host of The Infinite Fringe podcast,

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researcher, truth seeker from the Bronx, New York.

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Tony Arterburn, Tony Arterburn, radio host,

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combat veteran, precious metals analyst, and alt historian.

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Together they take on the headlines of the week, decode the

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misinformation and plow through the mainstream propaganda.

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Unauthorized, unscripted, and unintimidated.

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This is America Unplugged.

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What's going on everybody? Hope everybody is doing well. This is America Unplugged,

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the War on Reality Report. My name is Billy Ray Valentine and

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I am joined by Tony Arterburn, the wisest of all the wolves.

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Tony, tell them what's up. I'm here in

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Denison, Texas with my dog Beans and my cat Pumpkin.

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I'm here with you guys. It's good to see you. That's dope.

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How did, how did the, the carnival go last week?

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Well, it rained. Festival? Yeah, the, the fall festival. But it

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was great. I mean, a lot of people stopped by. We gave away free silver

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dimes. Uh, somebody won a gold coin. We had a giveaway. So yeah,

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all in all, it's a good weekend. I love that. That sounds fantastic.

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I wish I was there. I would have enjoyed that very much. Don Jeffries

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the Legendary, how are you, sir? Missed your show yesterday.

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Wish I could have caught it. Um, what's going on? Tell the people.

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Good. Well, I had a huge audience because whenever I talk about Charlie

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Kirk and bring those people over, that they bring audiences with them. So it's great.

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But, uh, I wish some of them would stay when they're not there, but I

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think they're pretty much loyal to them. But, uh, yeah, that's pretty much

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it. I'm gonna be— I don't know the exact details yet, but I'm gonna

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be— they offered me a radio show, uh, on AM radio.

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Um, it said, I think, The Signals in Colorado and Wyoming.

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Supposedly it's a show Alex Jones was on before, and they supposedly

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picked me over Owen Benjamin, which, okay, I don't

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know, I don't think I'm at his level, but it's going to be Monday through

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Thursday, like 4 to 5 in the afternoon. I I don't know, I'll probably just

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do ranting and, uh, but I'll let people know all the details. I don't know

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how to listen to it yet or anything either. I'm sure we can catch it

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on, on, on the internet or something. I'm sure. Yeah, hopefully. Yeah, that's cool.

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What's up, Tony? What are we gonna say? Oh, that's great. We need to get

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that up on the podcast, right? That's what I was about to say. I'm sure

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that, that it's downloadable and, and we can, we can find out.

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I don't know how many people know about me in Colorado and Wyoming, you know.

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Well, they're about to find out. Yeah, they're about to find out. They're about to

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find out, you know. So that's, uh, that's exciting news.

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Very, very cool. All right, we got some stuff to talk about this week as

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per normal. Um, let's start off with Pete Hegseth.

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Super beta energy from Pete Hegseth.

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I mean, I see this dude talk on television and it's like, man,

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how, how, how the feelings of inadequacy

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that must run through that guy's head, you know. It's incredible.

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He's like a little chihuahua barking at people. You know, that's what

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I'm gonna play, some clips of his dumbass, you know. Um,

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but I'm sure you know, and if you don't know, uh,

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we're gonna have a public execution here in the United States of America, you know,

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to join countries like Somalia and Yemen, you know. Um,

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that's what we're gonna do now here. It's, it's a thing. Uh,

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he wants to have a firing squad, which is interesting

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enough. And I mean, not— I'm not for the death penalty in

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any sort of way. To be clear. But, um, but yeah,

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he wants to do this and then he wants to televise it.

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He wants everyone to see it. We have officially crossed

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over into Hunger Games territory, ladies and gentlemen. Tony Ardorburn,

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the wisest of all the wolves, what do you got to say about this dude,

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man? Well, this is an interesting subject because it

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crosses over certain moral boundaries that I have and then intersects

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with other moral boundaries. Of an example. You know, the, the gunfighter Bill Longley,

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uh, from Texas, he killed 32 men.

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Uh, it was, um, let's see, 1877.

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It's October 11th, so tomorrow would be the anniversary when they hanged him

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at 27 years old. 4,000 spectators watched as Bill Longley was hanged,

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the gunfighter. God bless. So, you know,

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you had to work at it though if you're going to go see a public

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execution. I mean, um, Don, you remember the

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public execution of the so-called Lincoln conspirators. Uh,

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yeah, that was a, that was a public thing. People brought picnic lunches.

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Very, very popular family event. Yeah, that was, uh,

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that's a dark part of our past. You know, we went through this period,

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then it became very sanitized, you know, the, the executions.

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And I'm, I'm, I'm really in line, more in line with you, Billy,

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than not about, uh, the death penalty. Yeah.

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Um, because I feel like the state abuses that power.

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Some crimes though, like Nidal Hasan, like what he did,

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uh, turning on— I mean, he was a psychiatrist. He turned on his fellow

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soldiers. He was a commissioned Army officer and then murdered people.

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You know, he should have been dead a long time ago.

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Um, you know, the, the crime for that, I mean, for true treason

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and, you know, murder inside the military is,

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is, is a high crime. I mean, George Washington would've just had him hanged.

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I, I get it, but I have mixed bag on this. Uh, you know,

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the, the death penalty should be the last resort about anything, but some crimes

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are just so heinous that you don't deserve to live. And then I,

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you know, again, where it's an imperfect system because,

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you know, there are innocent people that go through the justice system, as Don

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and I have talked about many times, as Don's written about. We understand that from

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a libertarian standpoint. I disagree with this,

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just to put this out. I disagree with this modern context

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of what Pete Hegseth is putting out. It seems macabre.

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And why this? Why this particular, uh, case?

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And, um, you don't have to work at it. It seems like

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almost like you mentioned Hunger Games or pay-per-view. This isn't the

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same thing as a community— I mean, even though that is weird— but this,

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if you know, a community that had lost people coming

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out to see somebody hanged like in the Old West, um,

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That's a little bit different because you physically had to work at it.

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This, you stream, you can clip it, you can make it into— you

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can spoof it, you can do a whole bunch of other stuff. Like, once you

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have the footage, that it's a little strange. I disagree with,

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with Hegseth's decision here. Um, I don't disagree with

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the death penalty for Hasan, but I'm not sure that this is the— we're

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so desensitized already as a society I,

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I'd be careful to inject any more, um,

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anything else that's toxic into the stream. I don't know if our, our collective

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consciousness can take it. So on this particular subject, I disagree with

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the, the streaming of it, although we do have a history of, of public

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executions in, in the West. Yeah, we should, we should refrain

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from doing that. I thought we were evolving. I thought we were getting better,

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you know, uh, uh, than to do things like this.

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It's, it's, it seems highly unethical to me, uh,

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you know. And, uh, coming from Pete Hegseth,

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you know, of all people, who, who should— is just continuing to show how incredibly

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incompetent he is and how he does not understand basic,

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simple, uh, um,

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pragmatics in world affairs. Like, he just does not get it.

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It's like, all right, and I'm throwing it to Don in just a second,

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but like, you're gonna kill this dude? You know, I mean, you're gonna—

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these guys want to be martyrs, right? You're gonna martyrize

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this on television. You're gonna put it out there for the world

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to see. What are you fueling by doing that?

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You know, I mean, it just doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense.

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You're giving this guy— if, right, uh, the, the story

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around him is legit, right— you're giving this guy exactly

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what he wants. Right, that— and, and it's,

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it's, it's giving evidence to people that

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are going to use this, this footage in order to radicalize other

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people. And even if they— somebody doesn't do that, it's going to be out there

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for everybody to see. The footage in itself can serve to radicalize future

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generations of, of jihadists,

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you know. And, and I, I think, of course, that's a thing. You know,

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but, but, uh, I'm of the belief that most people just want to

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get along and just want to be happy with one another and learn from one

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another and live their lives. They don't want to do crazy crap, you know.

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But there are people out there that want to do this stuff.

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So by martyrising this guy on television, it doesn't,

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it doesn't seem logical to me given

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the circumstances, you know. And I mean, the death penalty in itself I

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feel we're all gonna die anyway. You're giving him a quicker out.

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It's harder to stay here and deal with it, to be

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incarcerated for the rest of your life, and then you're

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gonna die. You're gonna, you're gonna wish for that death, some of these people,

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to put you out of your misery. So that's what I know I don't understand

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about the death penalty. They're, they're getting cut off from, from here. They— we're gonna

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die anyway. The only way to ensure suffering if that's

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what you want. The only way to ensure punishment, if that's what you want

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from these people, is by keeping them alive, because nobody knows what happens on

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the other side. Uh, Don Jeffries, what's up?

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Well, you know, I've never lost my essential liberalism that

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I had as a youth when I was left, and certainly being against the death

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penalty is something I've been against my entire life. Uh,

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as you know, Tony kind of alluded to it, but maybe I might feel

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differently if I thought we had any honest people in government making these decisions,

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but we don't. And we know there's, you know, I think probably

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half the people in prison were framed or, or didn't—

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it didn't convict you fairly. So, uh, and you know how many people

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have been cleared by DNA evidence, you know, served decades in

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prison? No apologies. Maybe they get a little money, but how are you gonna— you

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know, how can you buy back all those years? So I, I, I, I would

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never, uh, support that. But the idea of televising, it puts it in a new

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level because this is— and I used to joke about this Um,

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I used to say, you know, that we would— that, uh, at some point they're

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gonna have a reality show where it's, you know,

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kill that criminal or something like that, where, uh, you can win a chance

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to pull the switch yourself. And, uh, this may be the first step towards

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that. And, uh, so it gives it a whole new— and, and you know what's

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going to happen because of the fact it's not going to look— it's going to

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look like a movie because how many people watch an execution? So you're going to

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have people thinking it's fake, and it might be fake, I don't know. And so

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that's, you're going to have those allegations because it seems so surrealistic,

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uh, to give a tap to, uh, Karen Carpenter's new surrealistic sounding name.

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But, but that's what it will seem. And, uh, I just,

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I just think this, it fits Hegseth's over-the-top personality.

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He's almost as over-the-top as Trump is in a different way,

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where he seems to be, uh, he's been wound up and

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he's, you know, he's, he's trying to bring out the worst elements of the

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right wing, you know. And this would be one of the things that,

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again, the worst elements of the right wing want— bring back public executions.

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And if you saw what— I mean, so many people were hanged,

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and I don't know how many of them might have been— who knows, you know.

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They used to, they used to, they used to hang horse thieves. I mean,

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really, you're gonna die because you stole somebody's horse? I mean,

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how many horse thieves were hanged? And people would go out,

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as Tony alluded to, the, the Lincoln conspirators None of them did

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anything. They didn't kill anybody. And, uh, they, they hung Mary

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Surratt, who was a middle-aged woman. And to the last day, you know,

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everybody thought she was going to be— even the executioner supposedly said, her too?

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And, uh, you know, so even, even back then, people were kind of sensitized

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enough to say, well, you can't hang a middle-aged woman. But they did. And they

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had lots of people out there watching, presumably enjoying

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it. Now, what you would have if they had— if they do bring back

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public hangings, you have a whole new element to it because everybody will be live

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streaming it, everybody be taking video of it. So it is dehumanizing.

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Well, we are desensitized to all this stuff. It's a, it's a really dumb

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idea. As Billy Ray said, this is kind of— I don't

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know that we've evolved, but again, when I was young, when I started, you know,

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obviously was against the death penalty, we didn't execute anybody in this

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country for about 20 years, something like that, until Gary Gilmore very famously

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was killed in 1981. And I remember at the time I was still pretty liberal

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conventionally liberal. And I remember how, you know, being appalled that

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they were going to bring this back. And, uh, they shot him by firing squad.

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They opened the door again in my state, Virginia, Tony's state of Texas.

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You know, they, they can't, you know, Florida, they can't, you know, they, they want

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to kill people. There's no doubt about it. And again, I just think that's the

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worst part of being a conservative is to think that

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even if you think that, I don't think it's a deterrent at all.

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I don't think it can be proven that it deters anyone at all. And it

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leaves— I think it leaves a stain on your soul. Uh, the guy that

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pulls the switch and— what is it, don't they, don't they, don't they do that

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in the firing squad still where they have— don't they have one, one blank

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so that everybody can feel they personally didn't do it? Well, why are you doing

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that if there's nothing wrong with it? Why do that? So you can keep a

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clear conscience. So I, I think it's— it lowers us as—

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but we already have. I mean, when you have a president like Trumpenstein, I mean,

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you know, it's We've already lowered ourselves to such, such a level.

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I don't know how much, you know, what depths we can sink to after this,

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but if this really happens— maybe, maybe it won't,

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but I, I, I just think it's— and I don't think

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if it happens, I think it'll be popular with

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what's left of Trump's base, and maybe it'll be a regular thing.

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Let's do the next one and see if we can get higher ratings. Now,

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uh, Rabo, uh, made a good point. I'm, I'm just

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amazed that they're gonna have it on free TV. Because, you know, I, I would

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think you'd want to charge because they'll be, you know, they're the people that,

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that pay for all the boxing matches. When they went to pay for— they stopped

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having any boxing matches on for free, and people that wanted to see boxing would

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pay for any boxing match. And people that,

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that want to watch people die— and, you know, I remember years

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ago, who was it, uh, I was listening to radio and it was one of

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these stupid shock jocks and, uh I think it was— oh,

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what was the guy's, uh, Ted Bundy, I think, when he was being executed or

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something. The people calling into that show, hey man, you're gonna watch that tonight,

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I'm gonna have my pants around my ankles. He literally was saying that on the

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radio. I mean, they were excited about the idea. Yeah, when I,

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when I know it's done, we're gonna go out and celebrate. It's like, I don't

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get that, man. I, I don't sell— if they did that to Henry Kissinger,

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Hillary Clinton, all these people I think are career criminals I

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wouldn't celebrate. Wouldn't make me feel good. But, uh, so I don't

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know. I think, I think it, it's not good for your soul, and, uh,

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it doesn't speak well of us as a society. But I think

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the rest of the world already looks at us a certain way, so this is

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just going to reinforce that. Excellent points done all around.

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Uh, so this is, uh, what's, what's this guy's name? Hasan Nidal?

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Nidal Hasan. Nidal Hasan is the Fort Hood shooter.

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Right? And this happened in 2009. He killed 13 people,

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uh, and wounded 32. Now let's see

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what— not 33? Why not 33? He just, he just missed

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it. He'll be the 33rd done. It's the completion of this, uh, freaking— let's

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see, beta male, beta energy,

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uh, Pete Hegseth. If, if you call yourself an alpha male and if you're going

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out trying to train people to be alpha males, odds are you're not

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an alpha male. You know, if, if you're, if you're sitting there reminding people

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how much of an alpha male you are and you feel like the best thing

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you can do is go work out— did you see footage of this dude working

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out with people this week? It looked, it looked so bad.

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Like, my guy, sit down, take it easy, all right? Because you,

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you can't hang with the young kids. Stop it. You know, but, but he,

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he wants to prove a point. It's about all he can do is talk crap

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and he can do some pull-ups, and he doesn't look good doing them. You know,

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so, uh, I mean, it's just the, the ultimate, ultimate example of

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beta. If, if you ever want to see beta, here it is. We're going to

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play it right now. All right. Execution by firing squad.

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Army major betrays his country, radical Islamist, kills a bunch of Americans at

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Fort Hood. Of course we're going to do it at Fort Hood. We're going to

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do it on a Thursday. We're going to do it at 1 o'clock, which is

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when he did it. And it's going to be soldiers with rifles executing the firing

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squad. Uh, it hadn't been since World War II since we've done that. Well,

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I kind of like the mentality we had in World War II, which was win.

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Which was, understand, when the enemy attacks you, you need to stand your ground.

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So it was a radical Islamist terror attack. Remember what Obama called

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it? Workplace violence. I mean, that's what we're up against. That's the worldview we're up

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against is workplace violence, CVE. We know what it

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is. It was a radical Islamist attack in uniform inside the ranks. And so he's

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gonna get a firing squad of soldiers, as it should be. And we'll make sure

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that people are able to watch it, that it's public. Uh, because people

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need to understand that this is, uh, there's serious consequences for these types of things.

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Do you— has Major Hassan made any, uh, final request, reached out to the president,

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anything like that, to your knowledge? Don't care.

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We'll see him December 3rd. Here's Beta 1 and Beta

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2. Not even a final request? Come on, they did that in all the movies.

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Come on, he doesn't care. He doesn't care because he's, he's an alpha male

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and he wants to kill people. Right? That's what he wants to do. Violence.

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Righteous violence. And this, uh, poor excuse for a reporter,

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a journalist— I don't know what the hell he calls himself— zero pushback,

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only, only agreeing with him. Hold on. Ladies and

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gentlemen, Secretary of War Pete Hegseth. Thank you very much. Thanks for coming with us.

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Appreciate it. First member of the media, whatever you want to

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call them, to ever do PT with us as well. I was surprised about that.

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I was surprised. I was surprised. I was so surprised that nobody

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wanted to do PT with the, with the rest of the service people, with the

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warriors, you know. Freaking pieces of filth.

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My, my God, ultimate beta. Beta. Who's that

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dude? There's an African-American guy that

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has a show and he calls people beta all the time. I'm gonna put

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that in my— oh, did you hear RB Ham? He's a

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paraplegic. They're gonna execute a guy in a wheelchair. Well, they, they shot him

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during the Fort Hood, uh, uh, during the shooting

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he was shot, so he can't walk in the Dow. He, he's in a wheelchair.

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So they're gonna wheel this guy out there, right? Very good point,

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RB Ham. They're gonna wheel this dude out there and have him shot

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by people. This is— all right, so there

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is no confirmation that it's actually going to be streamed. This is what,

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uh, uh, the, the, the the beta department head wants

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to push, you know. So, uh, he's saying that they're gonna do it. Donald Trump

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said he co-signed it. That's what he was like. Yep,

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I, I totally approved it. And then of course, as typical

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Donald Trump, he says, well, we don't know if that's what we're going to do.

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But we do have footage of him saying, yeah,

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I, I totally approved it. So let me, let me dial that

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up real quick. For some reason my computer's running really slow. But that's a really

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good point. That's a really good point. Like, the dude is, is in a wheelchair.

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Tony, thoughts? Yeah, well, nobody would be really talking about

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even the firing squad decision had Hexeth not mentioned that it's going to be streamed.

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That's the reason we're talking about it, right? Right. We would have just passed over

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it because that's kind of expected. I mean, I agree with most

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of what he's saying, even though he's saying it in a really— in that weird

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Hexeth excited kind of way for beta, for, for violence.

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I don't understand, but, uh, You know, he— I agree with him for the most

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part until we got to the part where everybody's going to be able to see

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it. I, I just don't think that's a good idea. Beta.

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Total, total beta energy. What a, what a piece of

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crap this guy is, man. He has no business,

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no business being there. And if we're going to have the moral high

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ground, let's handle it with some decency, right? We're not savage

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killers, right? We, we shouldn't be seething over

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the opportunity to kill someone. That it should be

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mourning. We should be saying, damn, I can't believe we had to get to this

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point because he did what he did and we got to put him to death.

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I'm against it altogether, but I understand. I understand the death

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penalty. I understand how people would want him to die,

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right? I get that 100%, and I'm not taking those feelings away from anybody.

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But to sit there and seethe over it, like, yeah, yeah, you know,

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to do an Alex Jones impression. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You know, and that's literally what, what Hegseth was doing. I,

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I can't get with that. I'm sorry. Um, I think that's,

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uh, ultimate beta energy, bro. Uh, let me

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see if I can— if I can pull up— what's up? Question on the chat

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asking me if I agree with him being shot, why don't I agree with it

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being streamed? And, uh, that's— come on. Well, it's, it's, it's for

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the simple fact that you cannot control— this is an electronic medium.

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As I mentioned, in the Old West, or going to see Bill Longley hangs,

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4,000 people showed up and 1877. I just know that off the

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top of my head. But, you know, they showed up and that it can't be

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duplicated. And then you're talking about, if, if you remember,

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uh, the state's legislator

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who shot himself in Pennsylvania, that's where they came up with that, the Filter

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song, Hey Man, Nice Shot. Um, after— I forget his name off the top of

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my head. He shot himself on live television.

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And, uh, it's not a good thing to have in the, in the consciousness.

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Especially when you're talking about children or people that shouldn't be watching that,

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seeing actual death. Like, I just don't think that's a good

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idea. It's not something that needs to be into the subconscious mind of a child.

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I, I— that's the only reason I— if you're an adult and you're a family

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member of someone who was murdered by Nidal Hasan and you want to show up

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and see him executed, fine. I think that's great.

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Yeah, I think that's what it should be if anybody wants to show up and

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see that. Now, as far as shooting I, I'm, I'm against that, you know.

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I think we should be doing it humanely. I, I don't think they should be

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doing a, a firing squad here. Thank you, Peter. Oh, you're talking

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about our bud Dwyer? That's what you're— I, I wasn't sure which one, but yeah,

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um, somebody's— yeah,

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frankly, my dear is saying, Don, I thought you refused the jab. But I mean,

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I guess because what I'm saying, I, I definitely did refuse the jab. Nobody on

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America Unplugged is— I'm— I still have a lot of liberal in me, I tell

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you. I'm a classical liberal. I just have other views that are far right-wing.

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I'm all about— that just makes me— don't, don't tell them that, they're gonna

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have heart attacks. I'm the perceived liberal here.

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These people on your channel, they can't handle very much. Oh, they know,

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man. They choose to, to, to, to look away

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when you say things like that. Stop putting it in their face because otherwise shit's

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gonna go down. All right, let me, let me put up, um, Donald Trump

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talking about— why is this doing this? I don't know why my— hold

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on for a second— why my screens are all over the place, but I had

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it up here. Now, all right, so Donald Trump co-signing this because he is a

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blithering idiot. Beta energy. This is what beta looks like,

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ladies and gents. All right, we got

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an advertisement. What's going on here? Well, that's Rust

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Buster. If you have rust Also,

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take a look at the way he's standing. Something is, is up with Donald Trump

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regardless of that. Um, yeah, okay.

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Um, hold on, hold on. That's me coming back. Go ahead,

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buddy. Go ahead, buddy. Sorry,

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is it his diaper that's making him waddle? It could be,

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I don't know. But that's him co-signing it. Now, J.D.

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Vance did say that while he agrees

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and understands, if they livestream it, he's not gonna watch.

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And I think this is a part of J.D. Vance separating himself from

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all of this and try to run for 2028. You, you don't

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know what JD Vance— nobody knows what JD Vance

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actually stands for besides Peter Thiel. That's the only thing that we know

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for 100% that, that he believes in, whatever Peter Thiel believes

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in. Um, but, uh, he's saying, I'm, I'm not going

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to watch. I do have a clip of that. Are you guys interested in seeing

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it, or are we moving on? Let's move on. All right,

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let's move on. Yeah,

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no, I, I think you're right about Vance because Vance does try to present—

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I But who knows what he really thinks. But yeah, on the surface it looks

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to me like he has a clear disagreement with Trump on several

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things, right? He's toast. What's that, buddy? He's toast.

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It's too much proximity, and Trump's gonna— going

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out the door, Trump will sabotage whatever J.D. Vance is doing. Yeah,

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so I, I don't— it's a, it's a foregone conclusion

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in my mind. I think he's,

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I think he's toast. It scares me, you know, because of his technocratic

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connections. But then if, if he is toast to the degree that you say he

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is— and I tend to agree with you, Tony, um, but you know, I'm hesitant.

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I have, I have PTSD after 2024, you know. Um,

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but, uh, they're just gonna shift their, their focus to

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whatever Democrat looks like is gonna win, you know.

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And, and they're gonna— we, we have an uphill struggle.

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Ladies and gentlemen, we've always had that, but here we go.

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All right, let's talk about the plague. Um, the,

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the plague in Russia, in Siberia,

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the, the pneumonic plague. Apparently it's, it's a, it's a, a cousin

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of the bubonic plague. And, and, uh, and this

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is airborne to a degree. There's— it's

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a— it's difficult to catch, but not— if you do catch it, it's a problem.

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And it's like a a 24-hour,

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18 to 24-hour window where you need to get antibiotics ASAP,

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unless, uh, if you don't, odds are you're going to die. People have

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survived past that time frame, but, um,

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not a good look, right? So if, if this got out, it's a problem.

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The thing is, no one knows what's happening, right? Uh,

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there's, there's speculation all over the place as to what might happen, but again,

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step— speculation is not evidence. Speculation is not proof

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of anything. So, uh, you know, people are saying that, um,

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so this young lady died, 28 years old, and she died

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of pneumonia. Um, and then, uh,

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Russia went ahead and quarantined about 200 people, and that's what sparked,

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uh, the speculation about what may have happened.

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And I think that's a good thing, right? They went ahead and quarantined these people

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Um, only thing is they're not being fully transparent with the World Health Organization.

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They're not providing, uh, the, the blood work

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of the young lady that passed away, which the, the World Health Organization has

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asked for. Uh, Russia is not providing it. And, um,

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and they're not— at this point in time, they haven't, uh,

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allowed for independent verification of their claims.

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They're just saying it never happened. Now, we don't have any that— well,

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They're— what they're saying is that the plague didn't get out, that this wasn't plague-related,

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you know, um, is what Russia's saying. They could be telling the truth, I don't

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know. Um, the thing is they're not being forthcoming with,

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uh, trying to back up their claims, and there's a lot of speculation

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on behalf of the West. And there's no shortage of accusations

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that are going to be thrown around given that it is Russia, right? So they're

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going to say, hey, you know, these people have, uh, have released a plague

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and it's going to be the end of the world. And let me tell you

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guys, for all you people out there um, that subscribe to population,

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uh, uh, reduction— and not population reduction, to,

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you know, to try to quell the population of, of Earth.

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If they wanted to do it, they would have released the, the pneumonic plague

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and it would have been a wrap, ladies and gents. All right, it's, it's that

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simple. We can try to, to— oh, Aldous Huxley and Julian

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Huxley and Malthusian thinking and all— you could go all that

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route. If they wanted to kill you,

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they just would release that. And what are they gonna do?

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Who's gonna put up a resistance? You're gonna be dead.

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That's it. It's a wrap. So just keep that in mind. Uh, so hopefully this

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didn't get out, you know. Hopefully Russia is telling the

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truth and, and, uh, they did, uh, good by,

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by quarantining, doing whatever it is, it is they need to do

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keep that in the bioweapons lab that it currently

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resides in. Hopefully it stays there. Tony Arterburn, what's up? Oh, I, I like the

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Malthusian reference. Little Thomas Malthus. I like that. I like that we're keeping

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the show smart. Uh, you know, I, I, I tend to agree

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with you. Uh, if they really wanted to do straight up, you know, cull the

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Earth population in the Ted Turner 95% reduction

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style rate, or, you know, a Bill Gates kind of 15%,

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Uh, yeah, that would be the way to go. There's probably a couple

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of different explanations here for why we even know about it. That's like the,

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the thing, like if you had a, a biolab leak,

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uh, that's national security. Why is that in my newsfeed? You know,

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at some level, was it, you know, you either want people to know,

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uh, or that's some kind of signal, like it's a language unto itself.

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Like, you understand what I'm saying? Like, this is something that you've if they wanted

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just to, you know, again, release something, if it was biowar, then you wouldn't know

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about it until it's too late. If they want to do something else, like the,

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the periphery of this— and I know Don will speak to this— but they,

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you know, when this, when this news somehow filtered into my feed

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and I'm looking at it, I start learning, oh, they already have, you know,

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22 different mRNA, uh, genetic code injections

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that are waiting to, to combat this. It's like

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We found another thing that also, you know, if you look back at COVID

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1984, you know, like this is something I, I think was probably

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not remembered as well as I remember it, but right at the beginning

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of that, the Israelis said, oh, we just happened to have been working on a

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vaccine for that exactly thing, you know, that exact thing. Like, and I went,

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and it was like, it was blind luck. And I went, uh-huh, right. So,

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you know, uh, you're right, Billy, uh, this, if it's true

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Malthusian and we're doing the Georgia Guidestones,

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uh, that they're actually farming us and they want to reduce it, uh, they would

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just go straight up, you know, one of these, one of these things that actually

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kills you. Yeah, but it's more— they need people to run the machines.

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They need people, like George Carlin said, just smart enough to run the

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mechanisms but not smart enough to question why they run them, right?

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And that they like the, um, mass, uh,

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you know, obedience and lockstep, like the Rockefeller document.

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They do like that. They like the, the compliance. They like

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the uniformity and You know, maybe just keep you sick

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enough, uh, to where you're dependent on the, the system,

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uh, to fix you. So I don't know where all this is going to go.

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You know, maybe it is just a, a head fake

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of some way. Maybe it is like a warning or a shot across

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the bow to, to NATO in some way, because it is coming

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out of Russia. You know, they're pushing, pushing hard that— but,

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and we can get into that here in a second— they're really pushing that,

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that button really hard. Um, to get something more

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kinetic going, uh, with Russia and NATO and Ukraine.

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So I don't know, it— I don't know that this is the—

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it's not the time to go buy a bunch of toilet paper, folks. Let's put

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it that way. Well, oh yeah, I agree with you there 100%.

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Um, Don, what's up? What are your thoughts? Well, I think Nick

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hits on a point in the chat room. He said they don't want to risk

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their own deaths. And I think that's the reason. Again, we can look at this

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2 ways. Either I've been studying this stuff for a long time And I'm coming

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more and more to thinking that they just like to toy with us. And I,

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I, you know, I think that the, the best part, the biggest part of their

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conspiratorial activities is to keep us constantly

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in fear. So this eugenics stuff has been out there for over a

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century. People say, well, it's too many people, we need to kill Prince Philip,

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you know, I'm going to come back as a virus, uh, right, right, right.

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Ted Turner, all this. So clearly they could do that, but as Nick

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says, they, they have to have something to protect themselves and

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whoever they might care about. I assume hopefully they care about

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their loved ones. Maybe they don't either. But so I think that, uh,

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that, that's one reason, I think. But on the other hand,

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you know, you can look at it— do they like to keep this out

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there to get us thinking that and to keep it— give us making ridiculous predictions?

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You have the Georgia Guidestones that appeared out of nowhere saying this stuff,

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and nobody knows who put them up. And then they, they somebody blew him up

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during COVID and that was the last you heard of. Nobody— nobody gets in trouble

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for that. That's, that's an excellent point. I don't know what, what happened. At least

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I don't know. I'll go back and check to see if somebody was— no,

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no, it goes— these things go down the memory hole. They have a short shelf

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life. Nobody— and then I'll bring them up years later. Oh yeah, what happened to

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that? I mean, we have security cameras everywhere, flock cameras, they're all over the place.

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Nobody caught that happening? Really? So I, you know,

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and, and by the way, I'm sure nobody would care, but I mean, so Again,

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but who built them? Nobody. They just appeared. And the time capsule was gone.

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What's that? The time capsule that was supposed to be there wasn't there.

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Yeah, there was supposed to be a time capsule buried underneath. Yeah, so it's

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like, I don't even know what that's about, but again, it kept people going off

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in a direction and saying, and not asking the first question, who built it?

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You know, who put it up there? Why then? I mean, it was only,

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was it built in the '80s or something? Or '90s even. Yeah, so it

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didn't last very long. And so, but when you have all these people tied— but,

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but some people would argue that, that COVID was the,

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uh, you know, the, uh— and I'm gonna have to put this down, probably take

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this down from YouTube on my channel right after this because any mention of that

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could do it— but, uh, was the culmination of that where, uh,

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because we do know birth rates have dropped shockingly. And I,

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for the first time in human history, in 14 states in America

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there are more deaths than, uh, births. That's never happened before,

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and that's, that's shocking. So is that— is it a slow

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eugenics thing they're doing? And they've, they've got— if you look at the

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people I argue with all the time on X, stupidly, especially arguing with the crazy

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insane women that hate men, and, uh,

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you know, they're not going to be having babies. And so the

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birth rates are going to plunge more dramatically than ever. So It's

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happening. And is that because of the propaganda? Because they told them that

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they got men and women in each other's throats now? I think so. So it

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could be more of a slow eugenicist thing where they're not, they're not, you know,

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throwing out some kind of crazy, uh, virus to kill

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us. But, but at any rate, I think, you know, obviously I'm dubious of this

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Russian thing. I, you know, when I first heard it's called the pneumonic

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plague, I mean, what does that rhyme with? The bubonic plague.

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So, uh, I mean, and when we hear the bubonic plague, you know,

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it's scary. I never was a little kid here with the bubonic plague. That sounds

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terrible. Black Death, you know, that kind of stuff. So I think that's,

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that's one thing. And again, I don't, uh, Jackson T. Barrett, uh,

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made a comment. I don't know if Putin said that or not because people say

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Putin says all kinds of great stuff. I don't know what he actually says.

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I don't speak Russian. But if he said the CIA did it, it sounds pretty

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feasible to me. So you got the usual suspects,

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the WHO, CDC, Uh, maybe we'll know. So you don't

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know if there's going to be another monkeypox, Ebola, or, uh, you know,

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the hantavirus. Look at the hantavirus. I wrote about that less than a year ago,

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and they, you know, and I said at the time, and I made fun with

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it, I had fun with it because apparently you catch it from French kissing rodents

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or something, you know, something that I don't know how anybody could ever catch it,

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but that, that's what they claimed. Gene Hackman's wife supposedly died of it.

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So, and you never heard any more about it. So the hantavirus is gone.

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And that's what usually happens to these things. They'll come out something as well,

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this is deadly, you know, and then they're almost always out of Africa.

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What was it, uh, Marbury or something like that? I wrote about it in,

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in my most recent subset. I never even heard of it, but they

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briefly— the CDC said, even though no Americans ever died from it, they said Americans

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really have to watch out for this thing. So apparently there's all these— it's like

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Africa is a giant, you know, Wuhan lab or something because there's lots

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of stuff going on over there. And, uh, maybe the immigrants bring it here,

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I don't know. But certainly hope nothing like Ebola ever hits here at any

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extent. But so I'm dubious about all this stuff you said,

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you know, going from the COVID days, the CDC, the WHO,

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I, I don't trust anything they say, literally. So if they're—

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I guess we'll get worried if Bill Gates comes in and if they have,

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uh, have they had a tabletop exercise? And somebody actually told me

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they did, actually, that Russia and China had joint

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simulations, and it was even— and they even used the word plague

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to, you know, to, uh, prepare for the plague. So I don't

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know, I hope we don't have a 2.0 thing here, but, uh, you know,

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this is, uh— I'm dubious about that. I, I definitely differ from Billy

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Ray and the Russia stuff. I, I have no— you know, again, I, I can't

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fear anything happening in Russia even though I don't trust what they say is happening

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because the same sources that are lying to me about everything else are telling me

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what's going on in these other countries, but I just look around and we have,

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uh, insanity all around us. We have a collapsing infrastructure.

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We have no economic opportunities for anyone.

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You know, 80% of young people especially have no chance. Uh,

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they're, you know, there's the conservatives I've argued with. Matt Walsh

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won't answer me, but he's, you know, he's one of the many people pushing.

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They clearly want to get rid of Social Security. I have a big vested interest

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in that now too. So we've got all these horrible things going on. Nothing good

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is happening. Except a live stream execution. I guess some people would get excited about

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that. But, uh, so I, at this point, I couldn't care less about what Vladimir—

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let me know if, uh, if the Russian ships appear off the

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coast of Florida or something, and maybe pay attention to it then.

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Um, so yeah, man, I, I don't,

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I don't totally disagree with some of the stuff that's been said, you know.

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And, and the thing is, eugenics was presented to us via

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the alt media, via David Icke, via Alex Jones,

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in a particular way, and it's not representative of the

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truth, you know. Um, and we could still make an argument

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of, of eugenics and how morally

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and ethically it's, it's, it's not a good thing,

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but they're not trying to kill off the population just like that.

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It's, it's not a thing. Right? And there are many ways

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to explain what's being done. Why it's being done

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is a totally different situation, right?

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I don't like it personally. I don't think that

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it's up to man to do things like this personally, you know, but the way

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they've done it is through contraception.

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The Industrial Revolution plays a role in this. You know,

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um, the more educated a person becomes, the less likely

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they are to have more kids, you know. And, and the—

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what, what, um, what, what really

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people, people just don't, don't look at is, is a lifespan.

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Like, how long a person lives now rather than,

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you know, uh, for— from decades ago and, and longer than that.

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Know, um, how quick they would die. So there are

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improvements that are being made, uh, for life,

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life expectancy. You can get treated for a lot of diseases now, and it's only

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going to continue to get better, Lord willing. Um,

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that makes you live longer. That doesn't necessarily mean we're gonna— our fertility rates

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are gonna— are gonna— well, but life expectancy has actually been dropping for the last

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several years. Depends on, on, on what you're looking at.

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And who— and you said something key. I'm glad you, you brought that

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up. The same people that are giving you the information that you disagree

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with are the same people that are giving you the information that you do agree

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with. So you don't know either way, right? Well, yeah, that's true.

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I mean, you have to— I mean, I don't, I don't know what the— because

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I don't know what their motivation would be for them to tell you that life

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expectancy was dropping if it isn't. But the perception is most people,

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when you tell them that, they still— they don't believe that, even though they trust

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that source for everything else. No, that's not true. People are living longer because that

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was what we heard for all our lives. Not the last several

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years, at least according to them. I don't know. I don't know. I know,

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I know they're supposed to be killing off Africa, and that continent is growing and

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growing and growing. And what's the difference over there, you know, than over here?

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You can make— you can— we can have an evidence-based discussion on

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eugenics. Most people listening to this show won't want to

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hear that. They want to hear they're gonna kill you, or they want to hear,

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oh, they hate your ass, right? And, and they're trying to We can have

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an evidence-based discussion and somebody can infer that from the evidence-based discussion

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that we're having, you know. But, um, even when people say, oh,

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it's a slow methodical thing, it's like they've

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been doing this for centuries now. This has been around.

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Either they're really bad at it or something else

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is going on, right? You know, and, and what, what, what we can prove

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that they have done is slow the birth rate in

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several countries. And, and, um, you know, Kissinger put out

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a, like, 13 countries that were targeted to slow

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the birth rate, and they gave some good reasons, and then they gave some very

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selfish reasons as to why they wanted to do that. And it's India

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and China and demographics in those countries, uh,

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uh, overpowering, uh, the demographics here in the United States, and they

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wanted to keep a competitive edge And now if

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you look at China, if you look at India, while those populations are growing,

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um, their overall birth rate has fallen dramatically,

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right? Because these people were, were doubling their birth rate every

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year, you know. And there was— there were other countries, there were 13 countries.

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And so, so things get— it's not like this is

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coming out of the blue, you know. It's not like this is just a crazy

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conspiracy theory. There's something to it. It's been pre— it's been hijacked.

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It's been presented in different ways for different people, for different, uh,

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motives, you know. And so we, we got to strip all of

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that out and, and get to the core of the issue and see what they're

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doing. At the end of the day, I still don't agree with it, you know,

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and, and I think it's dangerous regardless. Um,

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but it's not exactly what was presented, uh,

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and, and what continues to be presented. Let's remember, since we're going to take this

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down from YouTube anyway, uh, uh, we were supposed to have bodies mounted

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up at the corner from all these vaccines that people took.

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That was not— that was a few years ago that people were talking about that.

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Where are the bodies? Oh, but Billy, they reported

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X, Y, and Z. Oh, you believe the reports now because it favors your worldview,

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so you believe them. But if they come out and say, no, that never happened,

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all those people were bought off, those people are paid for,

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it's Rockefeller medicine— pick your side, pick your lane.

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All right, I don't see any bodies out there. And I know tons

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of people that took that vaccine and they're walking around

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like nobody— like nothing ever happened.

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We can continue to kick the can down the road.

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I'm just saying the eugenics issue is a real one.

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It has historical context and we should talk

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about it as such. But quotes from— I think it was Ronnie in the chat.

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He's like, oh, this is not a conspiracy theory. They proved it because Ted

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Turner said whatever. A quote doesn't prove a conspiracy, buddy.

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That's not the way it works. It's not the way it works.

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You can fill up your book with, with all types of quotes,

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you're still not proving the conspiracy. You're proving that people said something.

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No, but when you say that though, you got to understand that the, the only

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way we can get information is from all of these, uh,

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institutions that we think are corrupt. Okay, so what is that?

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So, so what I'm saying, so any, anything we get is where— how else

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can we get evidence? We think it's corrupt. We have a feeling it's corrupt.

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We have an emotion that it's corrupt. We get some quotes of people

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saying that are separate. We get some quotes of people saying things that we perceive

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as corrupt, therefore it is. That's not evidence. It's not—

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but what did you prove? Anything. So, so it's, it's us here speculating.

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It's us here talking about things that may or may not

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be true rather than talking about what we know and what we don't know.

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Well, without our— without having our hands on data, on actual data,

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we can't have it. That's the evidence. But in many cases data

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on everything going back to JFK assassination, everything else is withheld, classified,

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redacted. So there's only so much we can do, is that we— the

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evidence we can do, we can talk to people who personally

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were involved in or claimed something happened. That's all we can do. As for— as

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for this, clearly you, you had, uh, and I don't know what happened

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that— and if they stopped reporting on it, but was it 2021

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where it was all over the mainstream news, if you want to trust that,

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that the death rate had fallen,

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uh, the death rate had increased so dramatically the insurance

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companies were all concerned about having to pay out policies. And yeah, yeah,

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'21. So now I don't know what happened in '21. They,

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again, these stories, they'll have it and then they never follow up. So it

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just ends. Why, why, why are you prone to believe those stories

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and not believe others that come out of the same exact outlets that contradict what

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you're saying? Well, I knew lots of people died, including my own brother.

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Who was killed in the hospital by hospital protocol. I saw that happen. And I

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had tons of people— God bless, God bless your brother.

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We don't know if the vaccine killed your brother. No,

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the vaccine, he never took the vaccine. He was killed by hospital

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protocol. And Remdesivir, I mean, yeah,

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Remdesivir and ventilator. We know

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that they were paid for that. I had people on my show, I heard from

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all over that the same thing happened, the exact same thing.

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Quarantined for 2 weeks, loved ones can't see them, they starve

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them, they put a do not resuscitate order, all that stuff. They did

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the exact same thing to him. That was, that was not a conspiracy theory.

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They were doing that. Every one of those nurses and doctors, they just were following

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protocol because they trust the system. They didn't

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say, oh, we're going to kill people, but they did kill people. And they made

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a lot of— they probably made $100,000 on my brother. We know we got $13,000

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under the, the Stimulus CARES Act that Trump approved.

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$13,000 for every COVID diagnosis, $39,000 for

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every time they used a ventilator. And even more, we don't know what they got

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for Remdesivir. So that's just one part. But we, we see every day, every time

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you see a notable person, you see these people dropping. Every— celebrities

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that die before their time, and there's no cause

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ever given. So of course the conspiracy world is going to say, well, we know

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what the cause was. Because they used to tell you what these people died

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of. They didn't used to— there's not many famous people in the past where you

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can look up and you have— there's no reason given for their death. You have

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that all the time now. And there's— and most of these guys, I'm sure,

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were fully vaxxed. So of course, the, the logical conclusion

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is, yeah, not everybody. I have tons of people in my family that got the

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vaccine. They're all alive. That's, that's right. And it's not causation.

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Just because it's correlated by something doesn't mean it's the cause. And,

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and all those numbers that you cited, where did you get them from?

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You understand? And how come, how come those numbers aren't compromised?

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How come those people are— how come those numbers are legit and other numbers are

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not? You know, and, and then we make assumptions about what happened to our

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loved ones. Yo, there's, there's malpractice. It happens.

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We're human. God bless. You know, um, and it sucks that

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that happens. This isn't perfect. None of this is perfect, you know, but the

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way it's painted You know, um, it's, it's— I think it's detrimental and it's harmful

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for people because it, it, it alienates them from a

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system that can potentially help them with, with, with a condition.

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But understand, all we're questioning things because we don't have a

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press that will question it. None of it. There's no mainstream media that will— they'll

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demonize you for asking these questions and they'll attack you,

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but they don't do any investigation. So have the media invest, follow up

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what the insurance industry said. That this was an unprecedented

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rise in, uh, deaths that one year. And it— yeah, and so it appeared,

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and the media dutifully reported it. I guess they were ordered.

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Again, I don't know if that was to excite the conspiracy theorists, but they never

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investigated it, and they didn't ask the follow-up questions. Well, there must

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have been even more of an increase in 2022, 2023, maybe. We don't

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know. Try— I, I, I write, I try to research these things.

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The search engines censor you from trying to find out. There was something

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like the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act, the worst piece of legislation

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ever passed. That was probably a year and a half ago. I wrote about it

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on Substack and a big article on it. They said it passed both houses of

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Congress overwhelmingly and Trump was gonna sign it. Try to find a story on it

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after that. I don't know what happened to it. I don't think it's in law

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'cause they still talk about the same kind of unconstitutional stuff.

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That's the problem we face. There's no press to do this.

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And I— somebody like me, I'm writing, I have to depend on search

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engines that are all censored. They know what you type it

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in and they won't give it to you. Any updates on that or on anything,

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on any, any story, pick your story, the, the rabbis,

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the, the, you know, the underneath the synagogue, find an update

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on that. No updates. They have this original stories and that's it because

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the press doesn't investigate any of these things. So it's left for us And

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yeah, there's some irresponsible people doing it, but that's because that's all

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we have. We, we see something's wrong and we know something doesn't add up.

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So yeah, they're going to spend— I don't speculate. I don't do any— I don't

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have— I have no theories other than the fact that we're being lied to constantly.

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And we have to do the best we can with the sources we have.

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And those are the sources we have. What else can we do? Tony, what's up,

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buddy? Well, you mentioned Thomas Malthus earlier, a Malthusian,

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and, you know, he's a 19th century thinker that believed that the greatest threat to

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mankind was the growing population around the world. And, and Fortunately

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for mankind, the Industrial Revolution and the modern economy caught up

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with food production, and Malthus was proven wrong. He figured that it was going to

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implode on itself, right? And it came from a place probably not

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so much anti-human as probably just misguided at first.

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But that is the one interlocking commonality

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of all those at the upper echelons of wealth and power,

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is they want less people. They do believe in the interlock, that whatever

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the Malthusian system of thinking is— I mean, if you go back

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to, you know, Uh, Prince Philip, uh, of England.

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You know, he's like, if I could do one thing, I'd come back as a

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deadly virus if I were reincarnated so I can help with population

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control. I mean, these people, that's how they think. So yes,

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uh, you know, we, we don't have the best info. It's hard to tell

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exactly what— you know, they have their finger on so many buttons

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and pushing at the same time. You're, you're, you're left wondering to fill the

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gaps what is actually going on. And I agree with you, Billy, by the way.

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There was some really irresponsible stuff said over the past 5 years.

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Yeah, just heinous stuff. And I know— I won't repeat it, but I

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know people that are in alternative media that just said some abysmal shit

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that, um, unforgivable, you know, like as far

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as like telling people a certain thing about, uh, the genetic code injection

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and the stuff that, by the way, I oppose. And I was opposing that from

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the beginning. I understand it. It didn't do exactly what they said it was going

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to do either. Right? So it's this weird thing. So we're left to fill in

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the gaps. But, you know, if you look at the declining birth rates,

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you look at the death of the West, this isn't an accident.

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The, the Western civilization will be the first civilization in the history of mankind that

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was artificially declined. It— every civilization declines.

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There's always an apex. There's always a beginning and an end to anything on life

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on this Earth. However, especially the United States of America, in my

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opinion, has been artificially— the timeline has been accelerated.

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And this has to do with our culture, has to do with the— you know,

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Don talks about it on his X feed— the dynamic between men

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and women in general is a psyop. It's not only a psychological war but

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a spiritual war at the same time. We're dealing with medical mistreatment,

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war on— war on medicine, war on thinking, a war on— you know, I mean,

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if you look back at what we went through in 2020 You

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know, if you just— if, you know, some of the protocols that were just easy,

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like, you know, let's, uh, make sure you get

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plenty of vitamin D, you know, like that was kept out. Like you weren't allowed

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to talk about vitamins, you weren't allowed to talk about anything. It was— there was

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clearly an agenda at work. So it's hard to exactly know what

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would be next on, you know, because they— it didn't cull everybody,

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you know, there wasn't like a, a Georgia Guidestones moment.

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However, we're still, you know, captured by the,

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the fulcrum of that mind war, and we are seeing the future

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differently. And so that's why, you know, even if you don't cull everybody off,

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all you have to do is make them stop— make them stop thinking about

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the future, and then you stop having children. And I think they've done a damn

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good job at that. Well, that's, that's, uh, you can,

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you can back some of that up, right? The way, the way they wanted to

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to quell the population and in what manner they went about it.

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Um, and like I said, I'm not, I'm not for

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it. I'll end with one more thing. What's up? I,

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I won't say who it is, you guys can figure it out. There was a

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popular, uh, alt media person who said that

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the reason that Trump wanted to push the genetic

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code injection is because he believed Democrats would take it and they would die.

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I remember that. And I remember I never read another

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article or listened to this person ever again. I'm like, that is one of the

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craziest, most like— and by the way, he was supporting that

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idea, which I was like, it so blew

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my mind. Like, I can't take you seriously. And I know there's a lot of

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people like that. That's such a, such an insane thing to say.

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I would go ahead and mention it, but I'm going to respect your wishes on

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that, you know. Um, but, uh, but, but there was a lot of that.

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A lot of that. And, and most of the information— somebody,

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somebody in the chat, I forgot who it was, uh, said that, you know,

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um, is, is all my information the only true information?

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And I never said that. I just said we all get our information

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from the same place, all of us, and then we have different,

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um, different opinions on that information,

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right? And, and so, so that's the issue here.

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Well, you know, I'll just leave you guys with this when it comes to all

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of this eugenics stuff, right? When we talk about Aldous Huxley,

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you know, and immediately they point to Brave New World,

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you know, and we talk about Julian Huxley and that

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he changed his position after World War II. He rebranded

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because he didn't want to be associated with Hitler, right? And that's

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true to a degree, but the reason he did it was because

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he never agreed with Hitler. He never agreed with the way Hitler was

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doing things, and he didn't agree that there was a difference between races

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on, on, uh, on, um, on an IQ level

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or a genetic level. He didn't agree with it, and he made films

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about this. But that's not reported. We don't talk— that's not reported in

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the alt media. They don't want it. They don't want to— they don't want you

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to see that. They don't want you to know that Aldous Huxley wrote an entire

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other book The complete opposite of The Brave New World after

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he wrote Brave New World, you know. And I'm reading up on this and I'm

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like, Alex Jones didn't tell me this. He told me they were going to kill

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us and these were prophets of our death, right?

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And now we're busy arguing about the Great Replacement,

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you know, and all, and all this other stuff, ignoring the

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real Great Replacement that's coming with AI.

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That's a legit great replacement that we can talk about. But all these conspiracy

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theories are muffling together, and that's why I have an issue

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with it. I just, I just, I just want one more time, because you keep

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talking about evidence, and again, you're talking to somebody like me who— I've dealt in

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evidence in my life. As a teenager, I was working with Mark Lane's group,

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and that's all we did is look for evidence. There were 26 volumes of hearings

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and exhibits. I pored over those things. I looked at those exhibits.

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I read that testimony. I tried to interview whoever had— that's

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just on 9/11. I never did that, but you can do that too. There's a

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9/11 Commission report you can see through the hole. So that's the, that's the

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evidence we have. And then we can get evidence that's missing in the Kennedy assassination.

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We have other bullets that were discovered they suppressed and things like that people said

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and witnesses that were silenced. That's evidence in a different way.

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But so I, I don't know, because what happens is with people

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that are defending these narratives No evidence. And I go

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back again to JFK. What evidence do you have? Well, the evidence is that

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your, your investigation proved the opposite of what you say.

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That's the evidence. Your evidence didn't fit. It's, uh,

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so that, that's— I don't— when you say evidence, there's lots of evidence. So,

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so let me clarify. It's insufficient evidence. There is

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insufficient evidence to back up the majority of the claims that are,

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are pushed forth by the alternative media. Well, what evidence

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is there for the— what evidence is for the narratives that we're disagreeing with?

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That's the point, is that evidence is lacking. Yes, you don't accept

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the evidence, therefore, because it's lacking, it doesn't make sense. It's,

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it's, it, it— but that's the thing, you know, and that's where we, we go

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on this cycle, right? Because no evidence is

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acceptable to so many people. Somebody called me a CNN anchor because I'm

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saying what I'm saying. You don't hear this stuff on CNN. You hear this stuff?

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We're having a genuine discussion here on eugenics. You're gonna hear that

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on CNN? Come on. You know, but, but people get triggered automatically.

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And then, um, evidence that makes sense to them, if CNN reports

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it, they're going to run over here and say, Billy, look what CNN reported.

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And they're going to be all happy and giddy about it and use it as

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evidence for them. Be like, look, this backs up my point. It's, it's cool

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then, but when evidence is presented that you

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don't agree with, you just shut it down. Prime example,

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and, and this goes— and I'm, I'm not above naming names. I am sometimes,

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but not today. You know, you go on the David Knight Show and they talk

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about, oh, they haven't, uh, they haven't, um,

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uh, isolated the, the virus. They, they've never done this

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when it comes to COVID. And I've heard you echo the same thing, Don.

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Yes. And I've given you paper after— when you were writing your book,

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I gave you a ton of information on this. And it was not looked

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at. It was not like this. So we choose not to accept that. The FDA—

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a woman in Canada— or something that backs up your point of view,

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you're like, okay, we can use this peer-reviewed paper to back up our point of

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view. A woman in Canada filed a— that's not— she filed a

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Freedom of Information Act

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request for the FDA to provide the— to, to,

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to get those isolates. To provide documentation when they

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developed the Warp Speed vaccine. And she wanted to

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know, what did you use? Because you have to have the so-called disease for it

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to be a vaccine. And the FDA told her, and I published exactly what they

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said in the book, that we didn't have any isolates. They weren't available. They're never

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available because they don't exist. So we had to use simulate. They had to simulate

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the regular coronavirus, the common cold. So if you want any of the reason not

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to take that stupid virus, it doesn't even have the so-called disease in it.

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So That's, you know, I don't know what you— that's the government saying that.

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So how can you use what, what I gave you that the government said?

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I don't remember what you gave me. What did you— I can continue to give

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you stuff. I can, I can send you more stuff. Yeah, are you gonna use

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it? Probably not, you know. And, and this is, this is, this is what I'm

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talking about, you know. And it's not just you, it's not exclusive to you,

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you know. It's, it's, it's, it's the alt media, and I was involved in it

01:00:35.420 --> 01:00:36.920
for some time. I don't want to have anything to do with it. It's 1

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o'clock, it's time to go. Tony Arterburn, the wisest of all the wolves. Tell,

01:00:40.160 --> 01:00:43.896
tell the people up. Well, you can find me at, uh, tony.gold, my website.

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Uh, Wise Wolf Gold and Silver, all that, all the sponsors that make

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part of America Unplugged possible. But, uh, yeah, great,

01:00:50.472 --> 01:00:53.511
great discussion today, guys. Sorry we ran out of time. I wanted to cover,

01:00:54.352 --> 01:00:57.747
uh, some of the happenings with Ukraine and

01:00:58.247 --> 01:01:01.781
Trump and, uh, the diesel refineries, but we can get to that maybe next

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week. Uh, um, Don, Jeffrey's the wisest

01:01:06.843 --> 01:01:09.087
of all the wolves. Tell the people what's up. Now the wisest of all the

01:01:09.587 --> 01:01:13.130
wolves too. Now you're the wisest of all the I was looking at the

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chat and I got, I got thrown off. I'm sorry, go ahead, buddy. All right,

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the legendary Don Jeffries. Yeah, you can, you can find me, uh, you know,

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on, um, uh, Substack, obviously, donaldjeffries.substack.com. I protest,

01:01:24.510 --> 01:01:27.590
just like my weekly podcast. And you can follow me on X

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at Don Jeffries. All right, my name is Billy Ray Valentine.

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I hope everybody had a good time today. Listen, keep your eyes open

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and your mind open, and I mean truly open. Don't keep it closed to

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information that's outside because the mainstream media gave it to you, right?

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That's what you like to say. Somebody asks, where do I get my information from?

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Same place you get your information from, buddy. Same exact place.

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It's time to get up out of here. Tony Otterburn, you gonna play us out?

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Let's burn this place down. I'm, uh, I'm gonna hit the, uh,

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the burn button. Boom. Here with you. Let's burn it.