#238 America Unplugged -Sailors Overboard: The USS Abraham Lincoln Crisis
On this episode of America Unplugged, Billy Ray Valentine, Donald Jeffries and Tony Arterburn unpack the USS Abraham Lincoln crisis — reports of sailor suicides, desperate conditions, and stretched deployments — and examine how leadership and resource shortfalls are affecting servicemembers.
The hosts also break down the economic fallout: soaring gas prices, historic presidential disapproval on fuel, concerns about missile and drone shortages, and a covert U.S.–Japan currency intervention that highlights global financial strain.
Finally they discuss the political and cultural landscape — cult-like political loyalty, the risk of escalation abroad, worries over an AI market bubble, and upcoming Guerrilla Underground coverage.
00:02 - Intro & Hosts
00:47 - Opening Banter & Coffee Talk
02:09 - Guest Ashley Introduced
03:30 - Administration Critique & War Concerns
05:01 - USS Abraham Lincoln: Suicides & Ship Conditions
06:34 - Perpetual War, Empire Strain & Tripwire Treaties
08:48 - Trump’s Response & Political Blame
10:03 - Deployment Length, Food & Port Calls
12:18 - Equipment Shortages: Missiles & Drones
24:26 - Gas Prices & Approval Ratings (Harry Enten Clip)
27:48 - Economic Risks & Strategic Petroleum Reserve
33:31 - Sociopolitical Cults & Supporters
45:11 - US–Japan Currency Intervention & Global Debt
52:12 - AI Bubble, OpenAI Exodus & Guerrilla Underground
55:01 - Markets, Leverage & Personal Finance Advice
01:00:00 - Final Shoutouts, Signoff & Announcements
0:02 Donald Jeffries, Donald Jeffries, author of Hidden History and Survival of the Richest, host of The Donald Jeffries Show. Billy Ray Valentine, Billy Ray Valentine, host of The Infinite Fringe podcast, researcher, truth seeker from the Bronx, New York. Tony Arterburn, Tony Arterburn, radio host, combat veteran, precious metals analyst, and alt historian. Together they take on the headlines of the week decode the disinformation and plow through the mainstream propaganda. Unauthorized, unscripted, and unintimidated. This is America Unplugged.
0:47 What is going on, ladies and gentlemen around the world, throughout the United States? My name is Billy Ray Valentine. This is America Unplugged, the War on Reality Report, and I am joined here By the wisest of all the wolves, ladies and gentlemen, sipping some coffee, I'm assuming. I don't know what that is. Check it out, it's a, it's a mug of beans as a Disney character. There you go, Jess, for that. Very nice. Well, what are you drinking? The people want to know. Uh, Johnnie Walker. Oh God, no, there you go. That was, that was a few hours ago. No, I just got some coffee. All right, some coffee. Very nice. They say somebody Somebody keeps telling me that I need to be drinking some coffee, that it's good for you, you know, and that, that it, it helps your cognitive health, health and all sorts of stuff.
1:37 Very big coffee advocate. I don't know who this person is. They just keep badgingâ somehow they got my number and they keep badgering me about this drinking coffee from a, from a, a dolphin cup. They have dolphins on the cup and they keep, keep telling me that I need to be drinking coffee. I, I don't know. That's a good friend to have. And then, you know, very soon, uh, America Unplugged will have an official coffee Oh yeah, oh yeah, just stand by. I can't wait. I'm gonna be forced to drink that coffee just because we, we're doing it here on America Unplugged. So, so there you go, it's gonna happen. Ashley is here, ladies and gentlemen. She wouldn't know anything about, about my phone number and coffee. She wouldâ she has no idea. How are you, Ashley? Thank you for being here. Don Jeffries is, is drafting his fantasy football team as we speak. You know, he does this every year. He's, he's a god in the fantasy football realm, uh, so you're here, uh, subbing for him and we appreciate you.
2:31 How are you? I'm very good. I'm happy to be here with both of you and absolutely I would never harass Billy about his coffee habits or lack thereof. I wouldn't do it. I'm trying it. I, I am trying my hardest to, to grow into that space. I, I actually purchased some cold brew. Is itâ I think that's what you call it at one point. And it, it'sâ I drank some of it and then it sat in my refrigerator for months. Uh, so I need to figure this out, right, and start doing that because it's supposed to be good for you. That's all reports are, that, that it's really good for you. So keep drinking coffee out there, and no sugar, no milk, straight up, right? Do it for real. If we're gonna do it, we're gonna do it for real. Okay, high octane.
3:16 There you go. So, uh, we have a lot to talk about this week. I'm glad to be back. It's fun. It's glad to be back and talk to Tone. I talk to Tone off air sometimes, but still it's not, you know, uh, America Unplugged. So I'm glad to be back. It's fun. Um, although what's going on around the world is not fun, you know. And, uh, apparently, uh, the most incompetent administration, the worst administration ever in the history of the United States of America. And where have you heard this before? I don't know, maybe, maybe back in January you heard it here on America Unplugged that this was going to happen in January of 2025.
3:57 Probably the next day after the buffoon got elected, uh, you heard that this was going to happen. And here it is, it is happening, it's unfolding. Good part about it is a lot of people are realizing it and are separating from it and thinking We appreciate you. Come join us in the resistance. Regardless of that, our servicemen and women are really having a tough time apparently. They're fighting unprovoked wars, not for the American people, not for freedom, and not to protect us, but to advance another agenda, right? They're doing that, but on top of that, they're not givenâ apparently the reports are that they are not being given the resources that they need, in particular in a, in a tanker ship. Uh, I'm sure everybody has heard about this. Tony Arterburn, I'm throwing it over to you and then we're goingâ well, then we're going to Ashley. Uh, what do you think about this?
4:53 It's all over Drudge. It's, it's theâ I'll share it with you while you're talking. Uh, let's put it up. Apparently there's been, uh, suicide attempts. Yes. Uh, one, uh, confirmed, I think, that went overboard. And, uh, at least 5 others that have attempted this. Um, Pete Hegseth is, is saying that the problems on this aircraft carrier are being vastly overblown, but how can we trust the drunken Pete Hegseth, incompetent Pete Hegseth? Um, tell us what's up, Tone. What's going on? Well, I, I've seen this in my own service, and, you know, people get, uh, rotated into oblivion. They're away from their families, and I've seen, you know, suicides, attempted suicides. The psychological, uh, effects of detachment from where you live and your, your life. I mean, that's something that happens to you when you're in the military. And, uh, you know, it's never, it's never like the brochure, you know. It's never like you're gonna, you're gonna do a couple of months and then, uh, you're gonna have all these wonderful exotic ports, especially theâ if you're looking at the Navy or the Marines. It's never like that.
6:03 And, um, you know, we've been in a war setting, in a war footing, um, unnecessarily for decades now. And I mean on high alert, high octane, you know. This is something that I've been concerned with, uh, ever since my own service. I'm like, this cannotâ you know, just knowing what I know about the military and the setup and the supply and everything, just the, the people and what you need, I was always concerned with this, uh, Because the wars are continuous. It's something that Gore Vidal said about perpetual war for perpetual peace, and we really have, you know, no peace at all. It's just perpetual deployments, rotations, rotations forever.
6:46 Uh, there's always, you know, the boogeyman, and, uh, Iran has always been on that list. If you recall the, the 2002 speech from George W. Bush about the Axis of Evil, Uh, Iraq, Iran, and North Korea somehow were, uh, were allies in all of this, even though Iran and Iraq had killed each other, uh, during the 1980s, about a million apiece, right? So, you know, this is a symptom of a, of an empire and entropy. We are overstretched. We've got tripwire treaties built by men that are no longer alive and dedicating, uh, Americans yet unborn to fight on places, uh, in places Americans can't find on a map.
7:31 So the entire structure of everything that we have is falling apart. And you are right, this is the worst administration, uh, in memory. Um, you know, you can go back, the damage that's been done. Um, not only that, but the opportunities that we had that we squandered, uh, because of the incompetence and because of the grift and the greed. You know, if we had a president that, that cared more about people than profit, then we would be a lot better off. But unfortunately, this narcissistic scumbag has put us in this position because of his own myopic need to fulfill whatever ridiculous hole is in his heart with, with money or with lobbying, you know, gifts and Uh, planes from foreign countries and orders from Netanyahu. So it's really sick to watch. And this is something, you know, again, a war we didn't have to have. Uh, Iran cannot, uh, humiliate or destroy the United States. Only Americans can do that. And man, we are doing a pretty good fucking job right now. Oh my God, you know, I couldn't have said it better myself. Are, are you done, sir? Do you have more? I'm done.
8:48 For now. Donald Trump brushes aside mounting alarm over conditions aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, even as accounts pile up of, uh, desperate sailors trying to go overboard during, during a record-shattering Iran War deployment. Ashley, um, you brought this up, you, you wanted to discuss it, here we have it. Um, what do you think of all of this? What's going on? Yeah, I think that this is not the first instance, even within this Iran conflict, of very bad conditions for the people that are deployed on the ships.
9:30 So we heard about originally, I think it was the USS Jimmy Carter. And correct me if I'm wrong, guys, but this was where they supposedly, because some of the people on that crew were opposed to what was happening, there was some rumors, at least, of sabotage, the dryer fires and clogged toilets and things like that. And then we also had heard about the food that they were being fed was not good. And that overlaps with what we're hearing about the USS Abraham Lincoln. And we had talked about this a bit before the show, but that they were supposed to be deployed until May. That was the original plan. And then they are still there. And one of the things that I was watching was saying is really unprecedented for them to not have a port call in over 200 days as, as far as what is happening here. Um, so now we have reports as of the 13th from Dave DeCamp on Anti-War, and I think it is on, uh, Drudge as well, that the USS is sending fresh aircraft carrier to the Middle East, which is the USS George Washington. So they are preparing to relieve the USS Abraham Lincoln as part of a scheduled Middle East deployment. And the Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday that the news comes as families of military personnel aboard the Lincoln have reported that they have attempted to jump overboard in addition
11:02 to some of the other less than ideal conditions that they're living with at this time. And if it is incompetenceâ we talked about this a bit before tooâ then it is disgusting because these people deserve better than that. They deserve to be taken care of while they are serving in the military. So it, it is one more thing that goes into this entire list that we've seen with the entire conflict, right? Some of the other things, not to get into all the details right now, but we have heard that the United States is close to being out of missiles while we were bankrolling, um, and funding and sending money and weaponry to Ukraine during their conflict ongoing with Russia. And we have seen many other examples of incompetence or what, what actually is going on here. So I find it concerning, and especially because this is not an isolated incident.
12:02 Ever since all this started in February, we've been hearing more and more instances of people not having enough food, of conditions on the ships being terrible, of stretching their deployment. We are almost out of missiles, supposedly, and now we've lost 25% of our Reaper drones. So what is going on here? Trump said that the deployment has not gone on for long enough. Right. They asked him, uh, you know, is itâ has this gone too long? Uh, Tony, Tony might have better insight on this, uh, as far as how these things, how long, uh, they should be out there. Reports is like 5 months, 6 months or something is the max or something like that, right? It's been like 9 months, correct? Uh, for, for the Lincoln right now. So that, that takes a toll, uh, mentally on people, I can only imagine. Uh, but they asked Trump and Trump is like, nah, it hasn't gone on for long enough. You know, and, and this is how stupid this man is and selfish and, and careless, you know. Um, and, and Hegseth is an extension of that. That, that's why, um, he was brought on to this position. He does not have the qualifications to be there. And I remember when, when they were going through the confirmation process, which I've lost all, um, all faith in, if I had any to begin with. Like, there, there is no even reason to have a confirmation process at this point if people just get through. Everybody gets through. No way Heck
13:33 Seth should have been confirmed. But I remember during that process, they would, they would say, well, the president, uh, needs his people and he, he has a right to have whomever he picks. Um, is, is, is that the way we should be operating? Uh, I think these people serve the people. They don't serve the President of the United States. There should be a certain amount of requirements for the job, you understand? You just can't pick somebody on Fox News that wrote a book that you like, you know. And apparently Hegseth wrote a book called American Crusade. Um, the dude is fixed on, on this, this Iran war. And he's looking at it as a holy war. And I hate the way he talks. He's like, um, we're gonna bring righteous violence to people. Shut the hell up.
14:24 Like, I just feel like smacking him at that point. Like, violence, dude? Like, relax, you know? Um, but, uh, this is the reason here, you know. There's noâ there's no protection of the American people. This isn't in theâ in the interest of the American people. It's probably in the interest of a foreign power, whichâ which we've discussed here for a long time. And there's the holy war aspect of it. These people are insane, insane, and they are in power and they're carrying this out. And it's only going to get worse given that we are only, uh, what, 80 days away or something from the midterms? Trump doesn't even care, it looks like. He's just like, I'm doing whatever I'm doing, it doesn't matter that the Republicans might get decimated.
15:11 It's not mine. Not mine. I just, I just say that because I never thought Donald Trump would get elected again, and here we are. So, um, that's, that's the only reason. I agree with you, Tony, but I'm, I'm still saying might, right? Well, I mean, that's, that's pragmatic, right? It's wise, uh, but I, I think if you look at the landscape, I mean, that, that only seems fitting, like, mathematically Yeah, that, um, just karmically, right? If you look, it's real. You're right about the confirmation process. And by the way, I'm all for in these positions, especially the Secretary of Defense, which I'm gonna goâ I'm siding with Truman. Like, I think we need to, uh, reverse this stupid decision, uh, to make it the Department of War, um, just because of the, the stain that it has on it now. Like, itâ I mean, you could beâ they made the argument, well, we haven't won a war since we changed the name of it.
16:08 You know, well, maybe you don't fight any. Maybe you don't need to fight any wars. Maybe, you know, quit doing false flags or going to war, uh, on behalf of a foreign nation so it can commit genocide. Maybe you don't do that. Yeah. And you, you know, Ashley brings up a great point. Like, weâ the, the flanks that we're exposing, the weaknesses, the, um, the strategic, um, dwindling of our petroleum supply, of our missile stocks, of our drones of our ammunition, and then you take the presence out of the Pacific. Do you know what that is? You know what that does? Well, it invites an attack. Let's see, where have I seen this before? December 7th, 1941.
16:50 What did FDR do? Well, he moved all the ships and got rid ofâ and made sure everything was in a row so it could be attacked, uh, in a certain way, and, and we couldn't retaliate, and it would be maximum damage. Um, you know, because we're inviting an attack. Does this look like something that we're inviting? Ladies and gentlemen, is it weaponized incompetence that we're doing now? Uh, this is an open question because you look at the, the way that the United States is, is humiliating itself is unprecedented. And, um, we don't have the ability to wage war on every front, everywhere, all the time, being the world's policeman, uh, regardless of our infinite printing press, which is Another problem, you know, if you look at theâ if youâ we now pay on the interest of the debt alone to the U.S., which is $40 trillion, and that's what is visible. That doesn't include the, uh, unaccounted for or the quantifiable payments, uh, for, you know, the benefit system. That doesn't even mention that.
17:56 But it's $40 trillion. So we pay interest on that debt. The interest alone is equal to or greater than what we spend on defense. And what we spend on defense is you take it and it combined, it's 7 times more than the next, what, like 8 rivals altogether that we have in the world. And yet we have this bloated, uh, incompetent, dangerous, top-heavy administration and system itself. It really is painful to watch if you love this country. And, uh, no, I, I I see every argument that you made now going back to the, the confirmation of, of, uh, War Pete, as David Knight calls him. And, um, it really rings true. This isâ it'sâ he was chosen to do this because of his unsophistication.
18:50 Yeah, yeah. Um, but we have an unsophisticated leader, and this is why, you know, um, the whole, uh, Fauci situation is a big deal in, in the alt media. And I'm like, well, you know, the buck stops with the, with the alpha male, remember? With, with that guy that you were like, yeah, that's the guy that we all need to be like, and weâ and, you know, it's going to lead this country, and, and that's the guy. It was Donald Trump. And, and, and, you know, there's a Fauci, Fauci, Fauci, Fauci, and Fauci this and Fauci that. Well, you know, the buck stopped with Donald Trump, and you guys ain't saying that. You know, um, and, and Pete Hegseth is another one. The buck stops with Donald Trump, but, but Pete Hegseth isâ oh yeah, Pete, recently I read an article on this on my show where he, um, he, he saw the, the missile shortage and he blamed it on the Undersecretary of Defense. What a doof.
19:45 What a doof. What a freaking colossal idiot. It's incredible. Ashley, thoughts real quick before we move on? So before we move on, I just wanted to say that this isâ it is also very interesting to see because as I picture this as a real let them eat cake moment. Not that we haven't had many of them before, but the rhetoric of Donald Trump saying that, you know, this deployment isn't long enough. And we know that he and other people who are politically placed, such as Dick Cheney, and the list goes on and on and on, were draft dodgers in the Vietnam War. So we know this about Donald Trump, and we know that he sits there in his high castle and, you know, makes statements like that. And then additionally to hisâ the attitude that lines up very much with that is basically he's fine with us paying more or higher gas prices, which we know that regular people are suffering right now because it's not just the gas prices, it's not just the potentially looming oil crisis in general, but it's the effect that that has on groceries and everyday life costing more.
21:00 And then on, you know, adding into aâ in adding into that equation inflation that we've experienced, um, always, but especially since the pandemic times. So it's very frustrating to see that let them eat cake style rhetoric. And I, I You know, I don't know how people like what you're saying, Billy, could continue to support an administration that is so obviously fine with the regular people suffering. But that's always how it is. And for him to tell someone else that their deployment should be longer, meanwhile he'd never served, and of course none of his children have served either. You know, put, put Barron on a ship for 200 days, see how that goes. But Barron is busy, uh, uh, writing, uh, uh, jail letters to Andrew Tate right now. Yeah, get him on it, get him on a ship, get him on a ship, you know. Um, there were a bunch of people, uh, doing push-ups outside of Andrewâ wherever Andrew Tate is being heldâ saying free Top G. I was like, that's it, it's over, it's over, civilization is over, this is over. I'm like, what are you doing, you idiots?
22:06 Uh, it's incredible. Good, uh, points all around, Ashley. And, and to those points I wanna, I wanna, um, branch over to this, this clip of, of Harry Enten, the Bronx own. What's up, um, to Harry? And he's, uh, he's, you know, uh, the stats guy at CNN. And it's funny because Trump references him when it's favorable stats for Trump, you know, because that's what Trump does, you know. So it's not fake news when it's favorable to Trump, you know. He'll just go, oh, Harry Enten, look at those numbers, look at what he says, everybody loves me, you know. And, uh, And now it's, it's a totally different situation. I see Tony Taiâ I think that's the way you say itâ in the chat. Uh, reach out to Tiger. Um, I'd like to have a conversation with you, uh, briefly on Gorilla Underground.
22:55 I want someâ if you're up for it, uh, reach out to Angry Tiger. I'd like, I'd like to, I'd like to talk to you if that's cool. Um, all right, let me play this clip of, uh, approval ratings for gas prices. It gets into a little bit more, uh, but it's, it's relevant to the conversation that we're having here. Listen, I'mâ I wasn't supposed to be here today. Um, I, I wasâ I'm supposed to go to Pennsylvania. I don't drive because I live in New York. Um, and, uh, I was looking up tickets to, to, you know, to take a bus out there. I do it all the time. I haven't done it in quite some time. The prices were astronomical.
23:38 Everything was sold out. So because I just would have paid it and gone, but everything was sold out. But the prices were next level, like I had never seen it like that. I called up my sister, I'm like, what, what is, what is this? What's going on? And you know, it would have cost me on a cheap-ass bus that may or may not have air conditioning, it would have cost me about $400 to take me and my kids over there. It was crazy, nuts. And, and, uh, whatever, we'll get into it. But let me, let me, uh, let me pull up this clip and then we can talk about it, guys. Give me a second here. Live production on America Unplugged. All right, here we go.
24:26 Can we hear it? Did I mute it? I muted it. In an average poll, that is the highest disapproval rating for anyâ let's take it back. Here we go. Wow, look at this. 79%. 79% in an average poll. That is the highest disapproval rating for any president on record. Joe Biden wasn't liked on gas prices, but he only reached 72%. Barack Obama wasn't well liked back in 2011, but he only reached 68%. Even George W. Bush back in 2006, he reached 75%. I remember the gas prices being quite high back then. But he only reached 75%. Donald Trump takes the cake as these $4-plus gas prices continue to give us pain at the pump. The American people are taking their anger out on the president of the United States. So that's the broad number. What about when you break this down by party? Yeah, what happens when you break it down by party?
25:14 Well, you don't get to 79% just by Democrats hating President Trump. You get to it by the fact that we see it across the board. Look at this. Yeah. Wow. Again, 96% of Democrats. 85% of independents, and even a majority of Republicans, 52%. That loyal Republican base who has been through thick and thin with Donald John Trump, even they have turned against the president of the United States on gas prices. You get the rare trifecta, and in the case of President Trump, a very painful trifecta indeed. So let's break this down, if we could, then, by voters. And I'm thinking specifically working-class voters. This is a group that really broke well for President Trump. How is, uh, how is his approval with them right now? Yeah, I think a lot of them are having some regrets, at least when it comes to gas prices, right?
26:02 President Trump, historically strong for Republican president, Republican candidate among the working class, among those making less than $50,000. But look at these numbers: disapprove of Trump on gas prices. Oh, look at this, 86%. 86%. I mean, what is that? We're talking about more than 6 and 7. I don't even know when we get the fractions that high. My goodness gracious. Among Republicans, we're talkingâ look at thisâ we're talking 2 in 3 Republicans. 2 in 3 Republicans. Independents, 90%. Democrats, 93%. You guys get the picture. Yeah, you guys get the picture. He's even underwater with his own, right? Um, and, and I'm, I'm going to go ahead and say these are not even his own. These were people that were suckered into this.
26:48 You know, and, and we're like, you know what, I'mâ we're notâ these might be the real Republicans out there. Like I said, and I'll continue to say it, we want you back. I want conservatism back. I want real conservatives back that I can sit down and have a freaking civilized conversation with and that they could sway me. And I'm like, oh yeah, that makes sense. Instead of these crazy freaking MAGAs. I don't understand how it's even as, as high as it is. It should, it should be higher than that. In my opinion, uh, because it's affecting everyone. There are people thatâ it will be. I, I hope you're right. It's taken too long, in my opinion, you know. But, but, uh, yeah, I think at some point you are right. Go ahead, Tone, and then we'll go to the fullâ the full weight of the economic pain of this stupidity and corruption has not yet been felt. And this is my opinion based off of what I study in the metrics If you lookâ and Ashley's brought this upâ if you look at the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, it is dwindling. We're at like a 39-day supply now because last time I checked it was at like 42. So it's got to be less than that, and we're running out of that. We have buffered the gasoline price by dumping strategic petroleum onto the market so that The mere fact that we have crazy statementsâ and we verify this, Billyâ but yesterday I saw where Trump wanted to make the Strait of Hormuz an American territory. Did you see this? I did not. Okay, that, that's at leastâ that was in my feed
28:21 yesterday. I haven't verified it, it just came popping into my brain. So we might, we might have to verify. I don't want to ever pass any, uh, fake news on to anyone on purpose, right? Um, but that wouldn't have surprised me, by the way. You know, I'm like, kind of like him getting in the food truck to avoid, you know, like, we literallyâ the President of the United States with Air Force One and all this, what are we doing here where we haveâ you have to sneak onto a food truck to bypass an Iranian threat, or whatever the hell that means? I, I really, I really have no idea. But the issue surrounding the decisions here are going to be felt sooner or later, and the closer we get to the midterms Uh, the, the more the pain will be felt.
29:06 There's no way to put the genie back in the bottle now. So, uh, I hope I'm wrong, by the way, because if you take gas prices, just that alone, the inflation that it causes, the, uh, the cascading series of, of events that happen in the banking sector, in the, the job sector, uh, everythingâ like, you talk about just hurting people Uh, it could be catastrophic. I mean, just because it only takes a little push. And if you recall, which most people don't, but if you understand like what happened in the 2008 great financial crisis, I was, uh, running my family's convenience store, uh, at the time. It was a large station. We'd do like 250,000 gallons a month of fuel, right? And I saw people and it would hit, you know, $3, then $3.50, and then $4.
30:04 And you see who's getting rich there. It's not the oil companies, it's the credit card companies. They're making 3% on every dollar, right? And you add that $3 a gallon, that's 9 cents that just goes to the credit card company. So the credit card company's making more than the retailer who sells the gasoline. And I saw this adding up, and most people don't know there's that tax. That's just, that's just the credit card fees. And these banks, they love it, so they have no interest in lobbying for lower gas prices. They love this shit. And the transfer of wealth that happened just before the markets fell in on themselves, because people had to decide, hey, do I want to pay this adjustable rate mortgage that I've got on this crappy piece of property Or do I want to give it back and buy gas? And then theâ all bets are off. And then that's how you have all these overleveraged, you know, so-called masters of the universe over at Lehman Brothers or Bear Stearns. And now they can't pay their margins and get a margin call. You can't make your payments. It's everybody.
31:09 It comes for them. It's whether you're Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, it doesn't matter. Or if you're just Joe down the street. So, you know, we're in for some real turbulence when it comes to economics. This is what I'm looking at, so that's why I stay focused on it. I, you know, I hope I'm wrong, but, you know, you talk about those numbers, that number will go to 100%. Jesus, I hope youâ um, no, you know what, I, I don't hope you're right because then that means things got way worse. So let's hope not. Uh, but I, I think there's enough already for those numbers to be at least close to 100%. Yeah. Uh, but, uh, that plays into what I think is a, a next-level genius orchestrated psychological operation that's been run on the American people. That's the onlyâ that's the only explanation that I can come up with to justify what's going on here. Um, and I'm open to being wrong about that, uh, but it'sâ Iâ it's me trying to rationalize how the hell we got to this point. You know, um, and there's enough, uh, circumstantial evidence around, you know, out there to say that they're running ops on us, you know. So, um, so, so there's that. I'm gonna throw it to Ashley, uh, real quick. I do want to talk to Mr.
32:26 Clinton Powell, um, who, who typically criticizes me all the time. I'm glad you're here, um, but, but this is, this is a good one, ladies and gentlemen. Christmas is coming, and it seems that I can't get the GI Joe with the kung fu grip that my kid wants, uh, somebody, uh, got some explaining to do. Now, if anybody can tell me where that's from, uh, you'll get a chicken dinner, um, for free also. So just putting it out there, ladies and gentlemen. Ashley, what's up? How are you? I'm good. So one of the things I was thinking about when you're talking about the people that are still continuing to support this administration, and what it reminds me of is a book that I read, and I'm, I'm bragging that I read this book because it was very painful for me to get through it.
33:21 It took me a very long time, but I did it. So the book is called Ritual Abuse in the 21st Century: Psychological, Forensic, Social, and Political Implications. Okay, the reason that I'm bringing that up right now is because we're talking about this small percent of people that still support, and I know some of them that still support this administration. And what it reminded me of was one of the topics, one of the bullet points here is a destructive religious cult. And there are bullet points within that. And one of those is destructive sociopolitical cults. Now here they are more referring to like the, like the KKK or the, the Nazis or whatever.
34:09 But that's what this reminds me of. And maybe the group of people that are followers are not out there actively intentionally harming people. Like the people that I know, they're not harming people on purpose, but by supporting what this administration is doing and by not being aware of it, or, or maybe even worse, a huge amount of denial, which always, you know, if we're looking at addiction or any problems in our own life, like the thing that we literally have to get over before moving on is denial. And so I think that that's a huge element here. And I think that this is a socio-political cult, and people that are in cults are notoriously difficult to get out of cults. Like, if you wanted to go to people that are in a Shemayan Shmology and say to them, like, you shouldn't be giving all of your money to this organization, you probably shouldn't be working for free, your kids probably shouldn't going to be working for free, or whatever that looks like.
35:13 Like, they don't just wake up and believe you, right? Because there's so many other factors that are contributing to that. So, um, I know that's not exactly news related, but that's what it reminds me of, that we have people that are still supporting this administration in, in light of and in spite of everything that we've been talking about here, and, and actively worsening, uh, standard of living for the regular person. Absolutely, absolutely, 100%. I, I remember when you were reading that book, you know, I, and I can't, I can't get through something like that, you know, even if I tried, and I have tried. That's why I can't get through, get through those things. But, but no, I think you're 100% right. And, and more on that, uh, with Guerrilla Underground moving forward, that's the direction we're taking over there. I And I've been transparent about it. And I did a whole episode about it for anybody that's interested with Neil Sanders about how what I was involved in was a leaderless cult. I've come to that realization. I've accepted it, you know, um, and, and Neil has co-signed that, you know, and we were, we were in the same place at the same time doing the same things, you know, um, and so I was like, I, you know, and that's, it's not for everyone. I'm not saying that everybody else is involved in a cult. I just think that I was involved in a cult. You know, and so, and what Ashley said that's most impactful of all the points she made is that, you know, it's incredibly
36:48 hard to get out of that. It's a different journey for everyone. And everybody has to come to their own realization. Nothing I am saying or anyone else is saying is going to get you out of it. Nothing. It has to be you. And that's, unique and, and different for each and every person, right? So it's, it's, it's a journey that we're doing, and I'm glad that you guys are here. I'm glad that you guys are open to listening to what we are saying, you know, and taking it in. You may not agree right now, you may agree later, you know, justâ but you're here, and we appreciate that. Um, go ahead, Tom. Sorry, I wanted to say, I mean, go back to something we were talking about earlier about the the poll numbers. And I honestly, folks, I don't believe that it's going to be 100%, okay? Because nothing in politics or people's viewpoints is ever 100%. I'mâ I was just saying that for effect. I think that it's going to be dramatic. But like Ashley's right too, if you look atâ really study politics and you look at things like, uh, like the Jim Jones cult or, uh, the Heaven's Gate people, they're, they're very related to politics. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. And you, you emotionalize it.
37:58 And then it becomes part of who you are. And because people consume so much of, you know, social media and other, uh, aggregation sites and all the, the algorithm itself where peopleâ it embeds in their nervous system and their subconscious, so they become a part of likeâ and even the, the term sunk cost fallacy is in here. It's like, I've invested so much emotionally into this person or into this movement or I, I've donated, I put dollars up, you know, like they have to feel like that something's going to work out because they've given so much. That's called a sunk cost fallacy where you just continue to pour into it. Um, so I think that has to have time to wear off. I mean, it is just, you know, I was on Tinfoil Hat with Sam Tripoli out in LA a couple days ago, and we talked about this and is how how we had so much opportunity going into '25. There was a lot of, especially, um, worldwide, of that the United States could have gotten into, like deals and, uh, prosperity, and with innovations and AI and other things. And we just totallyâ like, this is going to go down in the history books as one of the biggest botched deals ever. Like, itâ I don't know that they will have an equal. Uh, and I look at, you know, what's funny, I hope I'm wrong, but this is my analysis, like looking at everything, because like we'll read headlines and stuff. I just stay, I'll go to Kitco. I want to know what's
39:30 happening with metals and currency. Like that's, that tells the story to me. Like we can get this probably a good segue for Japan, but, um, do the Japan thing. Well, and Ashley brought this up, I'm glad she did. I talked about it, uh, with David Knight last week But, um, we, we have an issue where the United States is quietly bailing out, uh, other countries and especially, uh, Japan itself. Like we're, we're using fake money to bail out their fake money. And, uh, I don't, we are adding fuel to the fire. And, um, the one thing that most folks don't understand is, and today by all days, This is the anniversary of when we went off the gold standard. It's August 15th. I just thought of this. It's August 15th, 1971. Uh, the dollar was decoupled from gold, and it had been $35 an ounce for gold since 1933, right? That was part of when, uh, FDR did his first, like, real heist on the American people. And, uh, you weren't allowed to own gold after that, but we did have a, a dollar that was tethered to it, right? It was It was linked to gold, and foreign countries could exchange their dollars for gold at the gold window. But Nixon closed that in 1971, uh, because countries wanted that gold. They didn't want the dollars. So we did not deny them our gold reserves, uh, by going off the gold standard. So every country after that followed suit. Japan's no different.
40:58 I mean, in Japan, the system that they have was set up, and their constitution was written by Douglas MacArthur. When he was Viceroy of Japan for 5 years. I mean, literally just like basically a quasi-emperor, and he wrote everything. Like, he continuedâ like, they have an American system. So they followed what we did with our currency in 1971, and now, uh, shockingly, like, their debt to GDPâ so debt to gross domestic product in Japan is 250%, which is likeâ I mean, we're like 120. And that hasn't been that way since World War II for us. But we're getting likeâ we're getting into territory where all the currencies on Earth that are like this are going to have to be bailed out or reset. That's why you get the term the Great Reset.
41:46 So a lot of this that we're talking about could be a sideshow to situations, um, an environment in which they can reset through foreign conflict or blame something on someone else. Like, we're reaching that point where false flags areâ and reâ you know, redirection could be the order of the day. So, Ashley, what's up? Go ahead. Sorry, Tony, finish your point. No, I was clearing my throat. I didn't want to put that on the audio. What's going on, Ashley? Yeah, I think that these things are, are all coming together with all the other things that we talked about at the beginning of this episode. So if it's weaponized incompetence or some kind of a game plan to leave the United States vulnerable, to leave the United States looking vulnerable. And then it's like I've been saying this over the last couple weeks, we are one assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand away from something really big kicking off. And I find itâ I don't know, sometimes I'm like, am I just imagining this or what? Because we had this regular life leading into COVID times, right?
42:55 Everything was fine. Did I appreciate it? No. And then one day everything changed just like that. So I find myself waiting for when that is going to be happening to us again, because this is somethingâ and like Gregory Mannarino talks about this tooâ that the, the situation that we're in is moving from crisis to crisis to crisis to crisis constantly. So I think that I'm not being, I don't know, a doomer, and I don't mean to be a doomer when I'm saying this, but I'm very concerned about what is going to be the next you know, flick of the lighter that ignites a powder keg of whatever is coming down the pipe. And I think that it could be so many things because we have the war situation, because we have the vulnerability of the United States that has been set up militarily, but also financially. It's disconcerting.
43:51 Fantastic. It is very disconcerting. I looked this up. I'm gonna, I'm gonna read it to you in just a second. Uh, W. Thomas Smith in the Rumble chat, you, my friend, are a gentleman and a scholar, uh, a next-level Babylonian Mystery School initiate. You figured it out. You get a chicken dinner. I'm not gonna say it out loud here. Uh, everybody else still has a chance. And if you don't know where this is from, where that quote was from, from earlier today that Tom Skerritt put up? I think I know. If, if you don't know and you're a child of the '80s or the '90s, I'm very ashamed of you. It's got to be '80s.
44:33 I mean, the movie was from the '80s, but you know, if you're, if you're from the '90s, that's when I, when I had, you know, theâ you and I were the same age, so that, that's when we had, I don't know, moreâ we weren't supposed to be watching those type of movies in the '80s, you know what I mean? So, uh, because we were, we were too young. Um, but, uh, but so, so that's why it, it, uh, like there's a bridge over to the '90s to like '95. I got like 2 guesses. I, Iâ Tony, I got like 2. Just tell me that you know, okay? I don't want to know that you don't know this, all right? Because, because seriously. Anyway, all right, let me read this. This is really, really interesting. Check this out. The United States and Japan conducted a joint currency intervention to buy the Japanese yen and stabilize it after it hit a 40-year low.
45:26 The U.S. acted to prevent Japan from offloading massive amounts of U.S. Treasuries, uh, to defend its currency, which would have spiked American borrowing costs and destabilized the global bond markets. That's crazy. See, I, I, well, I didn't know anything. I knew something had happened. I didn't think enough to look into it. Ashley brought it up this morning. Ashley scripted out about 50% of the show today. They want to talk about this, I want to talk about this. Um, and, uh, and that's why we're talking about it now. But it makes sense because Trump is incredibly selfish and stupid, right? So I'm like, what is the point of, of this? Why would he, uh, get involved with Japan in any way, you know, like to try to bail them out?
46:14 And, uh, somebody, uh advise them, hey, if you don't do this, this is going to get worse, you know. So that makes a lot of sense now, you know. I'm like, all right, that's why it happened. Because this isâ this isâ I mean, in every administration and all these presidents, and nobody's perfect, they always, uh, do something that is ridiculous and stupid. But I think the Trump administration has taken it to, to another level. It's the upper echelon of dumbass. Dumbass dumb. Uh, how much time do we have left? We are at 50 minutes. All right, Tony, closing thoughts on all of this given the information that I just gave you. What's up? Oh, it fits that we would put our own currency in jeopardy by bailing out the Japanese, um, in a time when weâ the country and the world desperately needs, uh, certainty. Markets hate uncertainty.
47:08 We're giving them nothing but uncertainty. You got fear, uncertainty, and doubt. You got the FUD. And we give it FUD. We've been hammering that for, uh, the last couple of years. And instead of redoing, uh, you know, these terrible globalist ideas of just outsourcing everything, uh, running out the country's ability to manufacture, uh, transâ exporting our wealth, we accelerated the hell out of that. So you can say, well, weâ what about the tariffs? Well, we, we totally botched that too. Because we use it as an extension of a weaponization of the dollar. So allâ I mean, just bad ideas across the board. It, it really only makes sense if you're doing it on purpose.
47:51 All right. I, I don'tâ I, we, you know, weaponized incompetence is, is something that I, I love to throw out there. Uh, it is certainly weaponized. Um, and that'sâ the jury's out on that, but we're definitely making these moves right now that will be detrimental and You wouldn't have to bail out Japan, uh, if the world understood that we're here to do business. Like Cal Coolidge said, you know, President Coolidge, like, the, the business of America is business. If that was the truth today, there'd be a lot more peace, a lot more prosperity, a lot more security. And, uh, we threw that away, uh, a while back. So it's not just this administration, but they are the worst, um, because it's, it's worse when you had the opportunity to be the greatest ever and you blew it. You know, there's, there's, there's something unforgivable about that.
48:41 I don't think they ever stood a chance, Tony. Maybe not. Yeah, I, I don't think they ever stood a chance. Maybe not. I think it's, uh, it's, uh, it was fromâ you know me, we've been doing this for years now, and, and I've always had the same position on, on this piece of filth, you know. And so I, I don't think they ever had the best interest of the American people. And even ifâ let's give, let's give the orange monster, the child in chief, let's give him the benefit of the doubt and let's say he did have the best interest of the American people at heart. He was completely clueless as to how to get it done, and that's bare minimum. I don't think he ever had any intentions, knowing this piece of filth I don't, I don't think he ever cared about anyone other than himself.
49:33 He is incapable of it. But if you want to put that aside, I'm willing to put that aside and say, you know what, maybe he did have the best intentions for America, but the guy is a next-level dumbass, so he can't get it done. And he brought in next-level dumbasses to surround him 9 times out of 10. Not all of them, but a lot of them, in particular Pete Hegseth. That. Okay, Ashley gets the closing thoughts for the show, and then we're gonna do some shoutouts, and then we're getting out of here. Ashley, thank you. Um, what are you thinking of all of this? And we're getting out of here. Yeah, so one thing that I was thinking about is that I find it very interesting that a lot of other timesâ now granted, I have been out of like most of the media where people may be hearing about stuff like thisâ but do you remember when, um, even in the Bush administration and the Obama administration, there were like no bailouts?
50:22 No bailouts for the airline industry, no bailouts for the banks. Like, there was a big to-do to be made about bailouts. And then this one, I just, I don't know, it seems more ominous to me because it's kind of like under the radar. Not a big deal has been made about this particular, um, you know, interaction with Japan. So I find that concerning. And then the last thing is that I, I'm curious about y'all's thoughts really quick before we go, because Michael Burry of The Big Short fame has also been predicting a huge bust of the AI bubble. I think the biggest piece of that, in my understanding at this point at least, is that because so much funding has gone into Nvidia, it's super highly valued, but that this pattern has played out before. Like, their demand that they are producing for is eventually going to come to an end. So this is something else that I justâ obviously, I'm not an expert in these things, but I'm wondering if that is going to be a piece of the puzzle when the powder keg goes will be not only what is happening with Japan or the, our, the condition of our currency, the vulnerability from the military perspective, and also this AI bubble if it actually is going to pop. On Drudge, uh, they were talking about the mass exodus from, uh, I think it was OpenAI, that, that people are, are leaving OpenAI.
51:50 Um, we're gonna get into a little bit of that in Guerrilla Underground. Listen, if I don't drop the episode on Sunday, because I am leaving, I'm just not leaving today. So if I don't drop the episode on Sunday, I'm, I'm gonna drop it on Monday. It'll just be me. Um, but we're going to talk about this. There's one key person that defected from, um, OpenAI, if I remember correctly, and she went over to this, um, San Francisco-based AI company. It's called The Conduit, and they're doing some very, very interesting things. You know, uh, they're, they're framing it as telepathy. We're gonna leave it at that, okay? And, uh, if, if you are interestedâ cliffhanger, ladies and gentlemenâ Gorilla Underground, we're gonna do it either, either Sunday night or, or Monday Night Live. Um, but we'll definitely putting it up on the Guerrilla Underground, uh, podcast stream. We've changed the name of the Infinite Fringe to Guerrilla Underground. That's done. So now you got to look for Guerrilla Underground and, and put it up there. I, I will post links. I'll try to promote this as best as possible. So if you're really interested and, and you follow me or you follow Tony, you'll see it.
53:07 I'll ask Tony to retweet it, and so you'll see um, the posting and you'll know where to find it. Um, so we're, we're going to talk about that. It's a very, very interesting situation what's going on, you know. And, and to be totally transparent, as soon as I heard that, I went to check if this company was publicly traded. I'm like, you know what, are they publicly traded? Because this is the wave of the future. We're not going to avoid this, so we need to position ourselves in a way uh, that's beneficial to us and our families and act accordingly. Just saying. Um, that's it. That's all we got, uh, for this week. Leave us a review over on Apple Podcasts. The reviews have dried up, so we need more reviews, please. Uh, oh, Ashley left a review. Thank you. That's right. That's good. I was gonna say Ashley left a review.
53:59 Thank you. I saw that. I meant to talk to you about it, man. Thank you so much. That was very nice and very kind ofâ see, folks, you leave a review, get to co-host. Yeah. Um, um, Tony, do you have to go? No, I don't have to go right away. All right, so you wanna, you wanna, um, shout out people with me for 10 minutes along with Ash? Yeah. And I want you to stick around late. I'm assuming Ash could stick around. So yeah, and I wanted to say, just on the point of, of the AI bubble and the bubble itself, which is in the markets right now, uh, I've I anticipate that. I've been feeling that for a while. There's a lot, especially with what's going on with energy and banking, like just below the surface. So I would be very cautious right now. I do think that the future is like what you're talking about, like the innovations in AI are the future.
54:45 Um, definitely you can't escape that. You need to look at what that means, uh, ethically, financially, spiritually, all that stuff. It's builtâ that is the future though. I'm doing my best to study it, understand it, so I can make better decisions. But a lot of these companies, what you have to realize, um, the majority of these, these stocks that are traded now are things that go public. Um, they're not your grandfather's stock market. They're not based off profit. They're based off of proximity. Uh, how much, how much leverage can you get? Uh, how much funding can you get? And a lot of them will carry negative balances in annually, so they're not even you know, technically they're just at a loss, they're just bleeding. But because it's based off the future, like, you know, some of these companies are based off like 100 times earnings or something. That'd be like Wise Wolf at 100 times earnings would be like an insane number, you know, like it would just be like 100 Wise Wolves. Which, you know, for me personally, um, I've just started working on chipping away and paying off everything I have, not having a car loan, not having a house, not having as much as I can because I don't My bet is that we'll go through turbulence before we'll go through any sort of, of any sort of stability or equilibrium when it comes to markets. And right now it's just nuts, and it's a drunken party, and I want none of it, man.
56:08 That's sound advice, I think, man. I've been, I've been trying to do something similar. Um, it's, it's more difficult for me, but it's allâ I also have probably less, less debt than you. Um, because I own less stuff, you know, but, um, but I need to get out of debt, you know. Um, so I've been trying to just chop at that and try toâ I don't know if it's realistic. I don't know if it'sâ ifâ I mean, it's definitely realistic. I don't know if it's the best strategy to move forward, right, financially. Um, but Iâ for me, it seems like, well, that's the way to go. That's all Iâ I'mâ so I'm debt-free. I have no debt. Yep. And I got rid of that, uh, starting last, uh, about 18 months ago. And I just said, I don't have to carry these. So, you know, I don't know if maybe next year if I want a new truck, I might get one or something like that, or 2 years from now.
56:55 Um, but right now I don't have it. And so that means that, um, I can weather storms more easily. Good for you. So Iâ that's the advice that I give. Not everybody can go, oh, I'm just going to cut a check, I'll beâ no, I understand that. But like, to chip away or to restructure your own leverage. And what I'd mentioned earlier, like, theâ what got these so-called smart sets and what, what buries people is leverage. Leverage can be good, you know, if you go, uh, buy an apartment building, you know, if it's a million dollars but you get, you know, enough, uh, rents to cover it plus flow, then that's fine. That doesn'tâ that leverage doesn't matter that much, uh, and that's safe debt. But if you're talking about like just your own personal, like a house you know, things, cars and all that stuff, it just starts to compound. And if, you know, gas prices double or go up 30%, and then all the rest of the economy starts following suit because it has to because of transportation, cost of goods, and all that stuff, youâ it makes harder to make those payments. So it puts more downward pressure on you. And I don't think that, um, with the Operation Let's Screw Over America that's happening right now, I don't think these idiots are going to undo the damage that they have done anytime soon.
58:08 And, you know, with the midterms, um, you know, not that Iâ you know, politics to me is almost irrelevant, but it'll just be one giant impeachment hearing for the next 2 years. There won't even be any good legislation passed, even if that's even possible. Let's do it. I'm with it. That's what it'll be. Let's do it. And I'm withâ I'm with impeachment, number one. Don'tâ don't, um, Don't put all the reasons for impeachment in one. There's, there's tons of reasons we can impeach this guy for. Do one by one by one by one. One of them fails, queue up the next one. Let's do it for 2 years. All right, let's do it and let's get him out of there. And if we don't get him out of there, let's lock his ass up afterwards. Of course, of course, it's probably not gonna happen. I get it, I understand. Okay, but the least we can do is try. So freaking impeachment after impeachment after impeachment after impeachment.
59:03 Think, change, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat. I'm all for it. I'm 100% behind each one. I'm telling you now where I stand on this. Don't ask me later, are you down with this? Yes, I am, 100%. Let's get the buffoon out of office. Let's, let's not give our, our support to JD Vance who is bought by the technocrats. Freaking Stephen Miller is a racist. Let's get him the hell out of there. All of these peopleâ Pete Hegseth is incompetent at bare minimum. He's also a crazy Christian fundamentalist. He needs to go. These people need to go. I'm not about it. It's just what it is. All right, it's America Unplugged. Tony Arderburn, who is out of debt.
59:48 Freaking Ashley, who's probably out of debt. I still have school loans to pay off. But I'm doing all right. I'll be okay, um, I think. Tony, tell the people where they can find you, buddy. Uh, you can find me at tony.gold, my website, uh, and the Art of Burn radio transmission, which was hosted by Ashley this past week. Excellent show, guys. Go find that, that show that she hosted. Did a magnificent job. I just put itâ I put it on the RSS feed yesterday on the podcast channel, so go check that out. tony.gold. Uh, for all your, um, converting fake fiat currency into real money needs. Also has links there to Wise Wolf and Wolfpack. That's what we're talking about. Big news coming for America Unplugged.
1:00:31 Uh, I don't know about big news, it's changes. Changes are coming, so, uh, uh, stay up for that. Changes on Gorilla Underground. We're working on stuff. We're not, we're not sitting on our asses. We're working on stuff, trying to make things better for all of you. Ashley is here. Thank you. For subbing in today and every time you do. Thank you for everything you do to help us, uh, in our little small operation here. We appreciate you. Tell the people what's going on. Yeah, thank you so much, both of you, for the opportunity to be on with you and, uh, for the Artburn Radio transmission. I really appreciate every single opportunity, and, um, it's an honor for me. Um, you can find me at my Linktree, which is just Linktree Think Change Repeat. That's where all the stuff I got going on and that I've been working on in these last next, uh, couple months. So that's where I'm at.
1:01:21 Fantastic. Okay, help me shout people out. We're gonna go to, um, YouTube and the Twitterverse before we go over to Rumble. Uh, Chris Graves is in the chat. Chris, it's, it's good to, good to see you, good to hear from you. God bless you, buddy. Hope you're doing well. Um, who is in here? BB, how you doing? BB Netanyahu, did you know that BB listens to the show? Is it Bebe or Bebe Rabbanzo? I don't know if it's Bebe or BB. I did Bebe before and then Don called him BB, so I'm going with BB now. Oh, but that was, uh, Nixon's best friend. So say hello to Bebe Rabbanzo out of Florida in the 1970s.
1:02:02 Good to see you. All right, fine. I, I liked it better when it was BB, and we can make references to, uh, the, the, the war criminal from Israel. That's a deepâ that, like, that's a deep reference. Whoever came up with that, a great screen name, Nixon's Buddy. All right, that's cool. I think you need to update it, you know, but that's cool. You need to update it to BB so I could use it, you know, and, and, and make, make jokes out of it. We appreciate you. We're here every week. Oh, just about. Thank you for listening. Um, what else do we have? Twisted Pistol, who isâ whoâ that's, that's the dude. He, he's, he's really, uh been following this Tyler Robinson thing, and, uh, there was a debate with Candace Owens and some, some dude yesterday, and it, it's infiltrated my algorithm. It's all I see, and I don't want to see it anymore. Um, but, uh, but Twisted's been, uh, following that and watching it, and we can't stop talking about it. Um, but all good stuff. What's up, Twisted? How are you? Thank you for tuning in, my guy. Uh, Bronx Stompers is in the chat.
1:03:03 What's up? How are you? Good to see Uh, Thomas Clayton is in the chat. Thank you for tuning in. Um, he knows where the, the movie reference was from. Trading Places, guys. Come on, come on, guys, come on. My name is Billy Ray Valentine, for Christ's sakes. Jeez. All right, okay, let me see what else is going on here. Uh, who do we have? Got Chris Cayenne. And am I saying that correctly? Cayenne Akuma? I'm not sure. We'll go by Akuma. How are you? RB Ham is in the chat. What's up, RB? How you doing? I don't know if Don is going to join you later tonight. I don't know if you're doing a show. Post that and, and we'll promote it. Uh, Patrice Hardman is in the chat. How are you? Hey, Marco, what's going on? Greetings and blessings to you. Um, who else?
1:03:49 Who do we have over on Rumble, sir? Let's see. Uh, let me, let me get TC. TC from Connecticut is in the chat. Good to see you. How are you? Go ahead, buddy. Uh, Bronx Stomper 111 is over on, uh, Rumble. Uh, Misfit 1904. Let's see, B-Hops 1. What's up, B-Hops? We got Lucky over there. Is that Lucky? Yeah, the Lucky. The Lucky is in theâ the Lucky. It says, Tony, please call Lucky. I, I just talked to Lucky. I need to call her again. I will do it. If Lucky's saying to call her, you gotta call Uh, or Right Now Man also in the chat. What's up? What's going on? Go ahead, buddy, finish up. Uh, I'm, I'm looking. Uh, let's see. Uh, Tara Wild is there. Who's that? Tara Pretter Wild.
1:04:39 What's up? What's up? Yeah, yeah. Uh, Goldsmith was in the chat. How are you? Guard Goldsmith, the great Guard Goldsmith. Uh, you know, Jason Barker is over in the chat. Uh, Karen Carpenter is in the chat. What's up, Karen? She has a newâ she has a new show. Surreal Surroundings. I haven't, I haven't, um, seen it, but I will. Uh, congratulations on your show. What were you saying, Tony? Uh, just calling out more, uh, more screen names. Greg Dub 27 over there and Rumble Dub. And this, we haven't done this in a while, so sorry for the Rumble. Probably feels like we just don't care. It's, it's the fact that we haven't linked. Um, like sometimes the, the chat doesn't show up on our Like today, feed like today, like today we miss all the comments. Uh, Ron Helton, what's going on, Ron?
1:05:25 Yeah, Tony Ty 06. What's up, Tone? Hit me up. Go ahead. Uh, Nature Boy. I know who that is. Nature Boy is over there. All right, the greatest professional wrestler of all time, arguably, the Nature Boy Ric Flair. Um, yeah, if you, if, if you, if anybody in the chatâ I know we got our wrestling fans in the chatâ if you feel differently, please let me know, but he might be the greatest of all time. All right, go ahead, Tom. I think that's about it for now. All right, anybody that we missed, uh, God bless you. Dawn Lambert, how are you? Greetings and blessings to you. Um, so if we missed you, we didn't mean it. We tried. Um, and we will catch you next week, Lord willing. I, I may or may not be here next week, so that's, that's a good thing for those Billy Ray Valentine haters. You know, I'm not gonna be here, so tune in.
1:06:16 But if you, if you tune in to hate me, I'm not going to be here. Just giving you, giving you a heads up. I might be here, but I'm not sure if I will or won't. Um, regardless, it's been a pleasure to be here with, with both of you. So much fun. I wasn't expecting this, uh, this morning. Gorilla Underground. Gorilla Underground, um, on Apple Podcasts, the Gorilla Underground YouTube channel, and Gorilla Underground, of course, on X. Um, for now. There'll, there'll be more coming, Lord willing, and, uh, and additional projects to that. So, uh, we're gonna be moving. We're gonna try to give it a shot, Lord willing. Uh, shouts to Dustin Helm. Shouts to, um, John Brisson. Charlie Robinson is over in, in Serbia, I think. Yeah, you know, with, with, with Mark Libra Poco. Yeah, um, they're doing that, so shouts to them. Um, Who else?
1:07:10 Who, who are we missing? We said guard. We, we got, uh, Wayne McCroy. What's up, how are you? Um, Don Jeffries, of course, the legendary drafting the greatest, uh, uh, fantasy football team in the history of fantasy football teams. That's it, we're done. Uh, Ashley, Knights of the Storm. Sorry, I had him on mute. Yes, uh, uh, yes, Knights of the Storm coming up at 2 PM today with Jason Karen and Denver Attaway. What's up, Denver? How you doing? It's gonna be a dope show. Tune in if you can. All right, Tone, burn this shit down to the ground. It's time to go. Done.
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