#238 America Unplugged -Sailors Overboard: The USS Abraham Lincoln Crisis

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Donald Jeffries, Donald Jeffries, author of Hidden

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History and Survival of the Richest, host of The Donald Jeffries Show.

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Billy Ray Valentine, Billy Ray Valentine,

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host of The Infinite Fringe podcast,

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researcher, truth seeker from the Bronx, New York.

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Tony Arterburn, Tony Arterburn, radio host, combat veteran,

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precious metals analyst, and alt historian.

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Together they take on the headlines of the week decode the

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disinformation and plow through the mainstream propaganda.

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Unauthorized, unscripted, and unintimidated.

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This is America Unplugged.

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What is going on, ladies and gentlemen around

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the world, throughout the United States? My name is Billy Ray Valentine.

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This is America Unplugged, the War on Reality

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Report, and I am joined here By the wisest of all the wolves,

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ladies and gentlemen, sipping some coffee, I'm assuming. I don't know what that is.

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Check it out, it's a, it's a mug of beans as

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a Disney character. There you go, Jess, for that.

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Very nice. Well, what are you drinking? The people want to know.

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Uh, Johnnie Walker. Oh God, no, there you go.

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That was, that was a few hours ago. No, I just got some coffee.

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All right, some coffee. Very nice. They say somebody

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Somebody keeps telling me that I need to be drinking some coffee,

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that it's good for you, you know, and that, that it,

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it helps your cognitive health, health and all sorts of stuff.

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Very big coffee advocate. I don't know who this person is. They just keep

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badging— somehow they got my number and they keep badgering me about this drinking

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coffee from a, from a, a dolphin cup. They have dolphins on

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the cup and they keep, keep telling me that I need to be drinking coffee.

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I, I don't know. That's a good friend to have. And then, you know,

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very soon, uh, America Unplugged will have an official coffee Oh

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yeah, oh yeah, just stand by. I can't wait. I'm gonna be

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forced to drink that coffee just because we, we're doing

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it here on America Unplugged. So, so there you go, it's gonna happen.

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Ashley is here, ladies and gentlemen. She wouldn't know anything about, about my

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phone number and coffee. She would— she has no idea. How are you, Ashley?

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Thank you for being here. Don Jeffries is, is drafting his

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fantasy football team as we speak. You know, he does this

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every year. He's, he's a god in the fantasy football realm,

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uh, so you're here, uh, subbing for him and we appreciate you.

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How are you? I'm very good. I'm happy to be here with

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both of you and absolutely I would never harass Billy

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about his coffee habits or lack thereof.

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I wouldn't do it. I'm trying it. I, I am trying my

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hardest to, to grow into that space. I, I actually purchased

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some cold brew. Is it— I think that's what you call it at one point.

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And it, it's— I drank some of it and then it sat in my refrigerator

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for months. Uh, so I need to figure this out, right, and start

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doing that because it's supposed to be good for you. That's all reports are,

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that, that it's really good for you. So keep drinking coffee out there, and no

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sugar, no milk, straight up, right? Do it for

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real. If we're gonna do it, we're gonna do it for real. Okay, high octane.

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There you go. So, uh, we have a lot to talk about

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this week. I'm glad to be back. It's fun. It's glad to be back

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and talk to Tone. I talk to Tone off air sometimes, but still it's not,

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you know, uh, America Unplugged. So I'm glad to be back.

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It's fun. Um, although what's going on around the world is

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not fun, you know. And, uh, apparently, uh, the most

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incompetent administration, the worst administration

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ever in the history of the United States of America.

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And where have you heard this before? I don't know, maybe,

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maybe back in January you heard it here on America Unplugged that this was

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going to happen in January of 2025.

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Probably the next day after the buffoon got elected, uh, you heard

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that this was going to happen. And here it is, it is

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happening, it's unfolding. Good part about it is a lot of

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people are realizing it and are separating from it and thinking We appreciate you.

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Come join us in the resistance. Regardless of that,

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our servicemen and women are

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really having a tough time apparently. They're fighting unprovoked

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wars, not for the American people, not for freedom,

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and not to protect us, but to advance another agenda,

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right? They're doing that, but on top of that, they're not given— apparently the reports

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are that they are not being given the resources that they need,

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in particular in a, in a tanker ship. Uh, I'm sure

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everybody has heard about this. Tony Arterburn, I'm throwing it over to you and then

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we're going— well, then we're going to Ashley. Uh, what do you think about this?

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It's all over Drudge. It's, it's the— I'll share it with you while you're talking.

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Uh, let's put it up. Apparently there's been, uh, suicide attempts.

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Yes. Uh, one, uh, confirmed, I think,

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that went overboard. And, uh, at least 5 others

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that have attempted this. Um, Pete Hegseth is,

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is saying that the problems on this aircraft carrier

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are being vastly overblown, but how

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can we trust the drunken Pete Hegseth, incompetent Pete Hegseth?

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Um, tell us what's up, Tone. What's going on? Well,

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I, I've seen this in my own service, and, you know, people get,

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uh, rotated into oblivion. They're away from their families, and I've seen,

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you know, suicides, attempted suicides. The psychological,

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uh, effects of detachment from where you live and

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your, your life. I mean, that's something that happens to you when you're in

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the military. And, uh, you know, it's never, it's never

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like the brochure, you know. It's never like you're gonna, you're gonna do a couple

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of months and then, uh, you're gonna have all these wonderful exotic ports, especially the—

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if you're looking at the Navy or the Marines. It's never like that.

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And, um, you know, we've been in

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a war setting, in a war footing, um,

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unnecessarily for decades now. And I mean on

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high alert, high octane, you know. This is something that I've been

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concerned with, uh, ever since my own service. I'm like, this cannot—

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you know, just knowing what I know about the military and the setup and the

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supply and everything, just the, the people and what you need,

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I was always concerned with this, uh, Because the wars are continuous.

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It's something that Gore Vidal said about perpetual war

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for perpetual peace, and we really have, you know, no peace at

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all. It's just perpetual deployments, rotations, rotations forever.

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Uh, there's always, you know, the boogeyman, and, uh,

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Iran has always been on that list. If you recall the,

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the 2002 speech from George W.

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Bush about the Axis of Evil, Uh,

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Iraq, Iran, and North Korea somehow were,

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uh, were allies in all of this, even though Iran and Iraq had

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killed each other, uh, during the 1980s, about a million apiece,

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right? So, you know, this is a symptom of a,

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of an empire and entropy. We are overstretched.

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We've got tripwire treaties built by men

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that are no longer alive and dedicating, uh,

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Americans yet unborn to fight on places,

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uh, in places Americans can't find on a map.

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So the entire structure of everything that we have

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is falling apart. And you are right, this is the worst administration,

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uh, in memory. Um, you know,

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you can go back, the damage that's been done. Um,

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not only that, but the opportunities that we had that we squandered,

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uh, because of the incompetence and because of the grift and

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the greed. You know, if we had a president that, that cared more

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about people than profit, then we would be a lot better off. But unfortunately,

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this narcissistic scumbag has

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put us in this position because of his own myopic

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need to fulfill whatever ridiculous hole is

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in his heart with, with money or with lobbying,

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you know, gifts and Uh, planes from foreign

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countries and orders from Netanyahu. So it's really

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sick to watch. And this is something, you know,

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again, a war we didn't have to have. Uh,

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Iran cannot, uh, humiliate or destroy the

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United States. Only Americans can do that. And man, we are doing a pretty good

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fucking job right now. Oh my God, you know, I couldn't have said it

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better myself. Are, are you done, sir? Do you have more? I'm done.

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For now. Donald Trump brushes aside

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mounting alarm over conditions aboard

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the USS Abraham Lincoln, even as accounts pile up of,

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uh, desperate sailors trying to go overboard during,

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during a record-shattering Iran War deployment.

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Ashley, um, you brought this up, you, you wanted to

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discuss it, here we have it. Um, what do you think of all of this?

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What's going on? Yeah, I think

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that this is not the first instance,

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even within this Iran conflict, of very

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bad conditions for the people that are deployed on the ships.

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So we heard about originally, I think it was the USS Jimmy Carter.

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And correct me if I'm wrong, guys, but this was where they supposedly,

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because some of the people on that crew were opposed

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to what was happening, there was some rumors,

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at least, of sabotage, the dryer fires and clogged

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toilets and things like that. And then we also had heard about the

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food that they were being fed was not good.

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And that overlaps with what we're hearing about the USS Abraham Lincoln.

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And we had talked about this a bit before the show, but that they were

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supposed to be deployed until May. That was the original

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plan. And then they are still there. And one

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of the things that I was watching was saying is really unprecedented for them to

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not have a port call in over 200 days as,

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as far as what is happening here. Um, so now

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we have reports as of the 13th

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from Dave DeCamp on Anti-War, and I think it is on,

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uh, Drudge as well, that the USS is sending fresh aircraft

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carrier to the Middle East, which is the USS

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George Washington. So they are preparing to relieve the USS

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Abraham Lincoln as part of a scheduled Middle East deployment. And the

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Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday that the

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news comes as families of military personnel aboard

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the Lincoln have reported that they have attempted to jump overboard in addition

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to some of the other less

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than ideal conditions that they're living with at this time. And if

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it is incompetence— we talked about this a bit before too— then it is

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disgusting because these people deserve better than

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that. They deserve to be taken care of while they are serving

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in the military. So it, it is

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one more thing that goes into this entire list that we've seen with the entire

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conflict, right? Some of the other things, not to get into all the details right

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now, but we have heard that the United States is close to being out

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of missiles while we were bankrolling, um, and funding

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and sending money and weaponry to Ukraine during their

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conflict ongoing with Russia. And we have

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seen many other examples of incompetence or what,

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what actually is going on here. So I find

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it concerning, and especially because this is not an isolated incident.

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Ever since all this started in February, we've been hearing more and more instances

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of people not having enough food, of conditions on the ships

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being terrible, of stretching their deployment. We are almost

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out of missiles, supposedly, and now we've lost 25% of our Reaper drones.

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So what is going on here? Trump said that the deployment

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has not gone on for long enough. Right. They asked him,

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uh, you know, is it— has this gone too long? Uh, Tony, Tony might

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have better insight on this, uh, as far as how these things, how long,

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uh, they should be out there. Reports is like 5 months, 6 months or something

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is the max or something like that, right? It's been like 9 months,

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correct? Uh, for, for the Lincoln right now. So that,

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that takes a toll, uh, mentally on people,

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I can only imagine. Uh, but they asked Trump and Trump is like,

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nah, it hasn't gone on for long enough. You know, and, and this is how

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stupid this man is and selfish and, and careless,

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you know. Um, and, and Hegseth is an extension

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of that. That, that's why, um, he was

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brought on to this position. He does not have the qualifications to be

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there. And I remember when, when they were going through the confirmation process,

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which I've lost all, um,

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all faith in, if I had any to begin with. Like,

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there, there is no even reason to have a confirmation process

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at this point if people just get through. Everybody gets through. No way Heck

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Seth should have been confirmed. But I remember during that process,

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they would, they would say, well, the president,

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uh, needs his people and he,

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he has a right to have whomever he picks.

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Um, is, is, is that the way we should be operating? Uh,

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I think these people serve the people. They don't serve the President of the United

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States. There should be a certain amount of requirements for

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the job, you understand? You just can't pick somebody on Fox News that

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wrote a book that you like, you know.

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And apparently Hegseth wrote a book called American Crusade.

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Um, the dude is fixed on,

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on this, this Iran war. And he's looking at it

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as a holy war. And I hate the way he talks. He's like, um,

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we're gonna bring righteous violence to people. Shut the hell up.

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Like, I just feel like smacking him at that point. Like, violence, dude?

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Like, relax, you know? Um, but, uh,

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this is the reason here, you know. There's no— there's

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no protection of the American people. This isn't in the— in the

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interest of the American people. It's probably in the interest of a foreign power,

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which— which we've discussed here for a long time. And there's the holy war aspect

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of it. These people are insane,

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insane, and they are in power and they're carrying this out.

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And it's only going to get worse given that we are

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only, uh, what, 80 days away or something from the midterms?

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Trump doesn't even care, it looks like. He's just like, I'm doing whatever

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I'm doing, it doesn't matter that the Republicans might get decimated.

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It's not mine. Not mine. I just,

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I just say that because I never thought Donald Trump would get elected again,

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and here we are. So, um, that's, that's the only reason. I agree with you,

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Tony, but I'm, I'm still saying might, right?

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Well, I mean, that's, that's pragmatic,

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right? It's wise, uh, but I, I think if you look at the landscape,

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I mean, that, that only seems fitting, like, mathematically Yeah,

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that, um, just karmically, right? If you look,

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it's real. You're right about the confirmation process. And by the

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way, I'm all for in these positions,

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especially the Secretary of Defense, which I'm gonna go—

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I'm siding with Truman. Like, I think we need to, uh,

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reverse this stupid decision, uh, to make it the Department

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of War, um, just because of the, the stain that

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it has on it now. Like, it— I mean, you could be— they made the

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argument, well, we haven't won a war since we changed the name of it.

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You know, well, maybe you don't fight any. Maybe you don't need to fight any

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wars. Maybe, you know, quit doing false flags or going

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to war, uh, on behalf of a foreign nation so it can commit genocide.

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Maybe you don't do that. Yeah. And you, you know, Ashley brings

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up a great point. Like, we— the, the flanks

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that we're exposing, the weaknesses, the, um, the strategic, um,

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dwindling of our petroleum supply, of our missile

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stocks, of our drones of our ammunition, and then

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you take the presence out of the Pacific.

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Do you know what that is? You know what that does? Well, it invites an

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attack. Let's see, where have I seen this before? December 7th, 1941.

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What did FDR do? Well, he moved all the ships and got rid

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of— and made sure everything was in a row so it could be attacked,

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uh, in a certain way, and, and we couldn't retaliate, and it

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would be maximum damage. Um, you know, because we're inviting an

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attack. Does this look like something that we're inviting? Ladies and gentlemen, is it

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weaponized incompetence that we're doing now?

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Uh, this is an open question because you look at the, the way

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that the United States is, is humiliating itself

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is unprecedented. And, um, we don't have the ability to

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wage war on every front, everywhere, all the time,

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being the world's policeman, uh, regardless of

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our infinite printing press, which is Another problem, you know,

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if you look at the— if you— we now pay on the interest of

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the debt alone to the U.S., which is $40 trillion, and that's what is

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visible. That doesn't include the, uh, unaccounted for or

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the quantifiable payments, uh, for,

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you know, the benefit system. That doesn't even mention that.

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But it's $40 trillion. So we pay interest on that

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debt. The interest alone is equal to or greater than what we spend

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on defense. And what we spend on defense is you take

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it and it combined, it's 7 times more than the next, what,

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like 8 rivals altogether

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that we have in the world. And yet we have this bloated,

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uh, incompetent, dangerous,

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top-heavy administration and system itself.

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It really is painful to watch if you love this country. And, uh,

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no, I, I I see every argument that you made now going back to the,

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the confirmation of, of, uh,

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War Pete, as David Knight calls him. And, um,

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it really rings true. This is— it's— he was chosen to

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do this because of his unsophistication.

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Yeah, yeah. Um, but we have

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an unsophisticated leader, and this is why, you know,

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um, the whole, uh, Fauci situation is a big deal in, in the

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alt media. And I'm like, well, you know, the buck stops

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with the, with the alpha male, remember? With, with that guy that

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you were like, yeah, that's the guy that we all need to be like,

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and we— and, you know, it's going to lead this country, and, and that's

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the guy. It was Donald Trump. And, and, and, you know,

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there's a Fauci, Fauci, Fauci, Fauci, and Fauci this and Fauci that.

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Well, you know, the buck stopped with Donald Trump, and you

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guys ain't saying that. You know, um, and, and Pete

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Hegseth is another one. The buck stops with Donald Trump, but, but Pete Hegseth

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is— oh yeah, Pete, recently I read an article on this on my show

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where he, um, he, he saw the, the missile shortage and

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he blamed it on the Undersecretary of Defense. What a doof.

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What a doof. What a freaking colossal idiot.

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It's incredible. Ashley, thoughts real quick before we move on?

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So before we move on, I just wanted to say that this is— it

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is also very interesting to see because as I picture

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this as a real let them eat cake moment. Not that

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we haven't had many of them before, but the

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rhetoric of Donald Trump saying that,

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you know, this deployment isn't long enough. And we know

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that he and other people who are politically placed, such as

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Dick Cheney, and the list goes on and on and on, were draft dodgers in

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the Vietnam War. So we know this about Donald Trump, and we know

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that he sits there in his high castle and, you know,

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makes statements like that. And then additionally to

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his— the attitude that lines up very much with that is basically

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he's fine with us paying more or higher gas

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prices, which we know that regular people are suffering right

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now because it's not just the gas prices, it's not just the potentially

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looming oil crisis in general, but it's the effect that

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that has on groceries and everyday life costing more.

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And then on, you know, adding into a— in adding into

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that equation inflation that we've experienced, um,

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always, but especially since the pandemic times. So it's

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very frustrating to see that let them eat cake style rhetoric.

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And I, I You know, I don't know how

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people like what you're saying, Billy, could continue to support

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an administration that is so obviously fine with the regular people suffering.

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But that's always how it is. And for him to tell someone else that their

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deployment should be longer, meanwhile he'd never served, and of

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course none of his children have served either. You know, put, put Barron on a

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ship for 200 days, see how that goes. But Barron is

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busy, uh, uh, writing, uh, uh, jail letters

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to Andrew Tate right now. Yeah, get him on it, get him on a ship,

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get him on a ship, you know. Um, there were a bunch of people,

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uh, doing push-ups outside of Andrew— wherever Andrew Tate is being

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held— saying free Top G. I was like, that's it, it's over, it's over,

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civilization is over, this is over. I'm like, what are you doing, you idiots?

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Uh, it's incredible. Good, uh, points all around,

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Ashley. And, and to those points I wanna, I wanna, um,

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branch over to this, this clip of, of Harry Enten, the Bronx

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own. What's up, um, to Harry?

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And he's, uh, he's, you know, uh, the stats guy at CNN.

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And it's funny because Trump references him when it's favorable

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stats for Trump, you know, because that's what Trump does, you know. So it's not

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fake news when it's favorable to Trump, you know. He'll just go, oh,

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Harry Enten, look at those numbers, look at what he says, everybody loves me,

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you know. And, uh, And now it's, it's a totally different situation. I see

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Tony Tai— I think that's the way you say it— in the chat. Uh,

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reach out to Tiger. Um, I'd like to have

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a conversation with you, uh, briefly on Gorilla Underground.

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I want some— if you're up for it, uh, reach out to Angry Tiger.

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I'd like, I'd like to, I'd like to talk to you if that's cool.

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Um, all right, let me play this clip of,

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uh, approval ratings for gas prices.

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It gets into a little bit more, uh, but it's, it's relevant

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to the conversation that we're having here. Listen, I'm— I wasn't supposed to be here

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today. Um, I, I was— I'm supposed to go

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to Pennsylvania. I don't drive because I live in New York. Um,

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and, uh, I was looking

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up tickets to, to, you know, to take a bus out there. I do it

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all the time. I haven't done it in quite some time.

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The prices were astronomical.

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Everything was sold out. So because I just would have paid it and gone,

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but everything was sold out. But the prices were next level,

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like I had never seen it like that. I called up my sister, I'm like,

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what, what is, what is this? What's going on? And you know,

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it would have cost me on a cheap-ass bus that

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may or may not have air conditioning, it would have cost me about $400

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to take me and my kids over there.

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It was crazy, nuts. And, and, uh,

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whatever, we'll get into it. But let me, let me, uh, let me pull up

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this clip and then we can talk about it, guys. Give me

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a second here. Live production on America Unplugged. All right,

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here we go.

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Can we hear it? Did I mute it? I muted it. In an average

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poll, that is the highest disapproval rating for any— let's take it back.

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Here we go. Wow, look at this.

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79%. 79% in an average poll. That is

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the highest disapproval rating for any president on record.

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Joe Biden wasn't liked on gas prices, but he only reached 72%. Barack Obama wasn't

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well liked back in 2011, but he only reached 68%. Even George W. Bush back

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in 2006, he reached 75%. I remember the gas prices being quite high back then.

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But he only reached 75%. Donald Trump takes the cake as these

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$4-plus gas prices continue to give

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us pain at the pump. The American people are taking their anger out on the

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president of the United States. So that's the broad number. What about when you break

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this down by party? Yeah, what happens when you break it down by party?

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Well, you don't get to 79% just by Democrats hating President Trump.

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You get to it by the fact that we see it across the board.

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Look at this. Yeah. Wow. Again, 96% of Democrats.

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85% of independents, and even a majority of

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Republicans, 52%. That loyal Republican base who has been

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through thick and thin with Donald John Trump, even they

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have turned against the president of the United States on gas prices. You get

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the rare trifecta, and in the case of President Trump, a very painful

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trifecta indeed. So let's break this down, if we could, then, by voters. And I'm

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thinking specifically working-class voters. This is a group that

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really broke well for President Trump. How is,

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uh, how is his approval with them right now? Yeah, I think a lot of

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them are having some regrets, at least when it comes to gas prices, right?

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President Trump, historically strong for Republican president,

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Republican candidate among the working class, among those making

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less than $50,000. But look at these numbers: disapprove of

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Trump on gas prices. Oh, look at this, 86%.

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86%. I mean, what is that? We're talking about more than 6

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and 7. I don't even know when we get the fractions that high. My goodness

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gracious. Among Republicans, we're talking— look at this— we're talking 2 in

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3 Republicans. 2 in 3 Republicans.

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Independents, 90%. Democrats,

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93%. You guys get the picture. Yeah,

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you guys get the picture. He's even underwater with

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his own, right? Um, and, and I'm, I'm going to go ahead and say

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these are not even his own. These were people that were suckered into this.

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You know, and, and we're like, you know what, I'm— we're not— these might be

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the real Republicans out there. Like I said, and I'll continue to say

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it, we want you back. I want conservatism back. I want real conservatives

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back that I can sit down and have a freaking civilized conversation

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with and that they could sway me. And I'm like, oh yeah, that makes

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sense. Instead of these crazy freaking MAGAs. I don't understand how

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it's even as, as high as it is. It should, it should be higher

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than that. In my opinion, uh, because it's affecting

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everyone. There are people that— it will be.

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I, I hope you're right. It's taken too long, in my opinion, you know.

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But, but, uh, yeah, I think at some point you are right. Go ahead,

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Tone, and then we'll go to the full— the full weight of the economic

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pain of this stupidity and corruption has not yet

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been felt. And this is my opinion based off of what I study in the

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metrics If you look— and Ashley's brought this up—

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if you look at the Strategic Petroleum Reserve,

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it is dwindling. We're at like a 39-day supply now

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because last time I checked it was at like 42. So it's

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got to be less than that, and we're running out of that. We have buffered

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the gasoline price by dumping strategic

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petroleum onto the market so that The mere fact

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that we have crazy statements— and we verify this, Billy— but yesterday I saw where

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Trump wanted to make the Strait of Hormuz an American territory. Did you

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see this? I did not. Okay, that, that's at least— that was in my feed

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yesterday. I haven't verified it, it just came popping into my brain. So we might,

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we might have to verify. I don't want to ever pass any, uh, fake news

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on to anyone on purpose, right? Um, but that wouldn't have surprised

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me, by the way. You know, I'm like, kind of like him getting in the

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food truck to avoid, you know, like, we literally— the President

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of the United States with Air Force One and all this,

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what are we doing here where we have— you have to sneak onto a

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food truck to bypass an Iranian threat, or whatever

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the hell that means? I, I really, I really have no idea.

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But the issue surrounding the decisions here

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are going to be felt sooner or later, and the closer we get

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to the midterms Uh, the, the more the pain will be felt.

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There's no way to put the genie back in the bottle now. So,

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uh, I hope I'm wrong, by the way, because if you take gas prices,

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just that alone, the inflation that it causes,

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the, uh, the cascading series of, of events

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that happen in the banking sector, in the, the job sector,

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uh, everything— like, you talk about just hurting people Uh,

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it could be catastrophic. I mean, just because

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it only takes a little push. And if you recall,

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which most people don't, but if you understand like what happened in

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the 2008 great financial crisis, I was,

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uh, running my family's convenience store, uh, at the

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time. It was a large station. We'd do like 250,000 gallons a

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month of fuel, right? And I saw people and it

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would hit, you know, $3, then $3.50, and then $4.

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And you see who's getting rich there. It's not the oil companies,

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it's the credit card companies. They're making 3% on

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every dollar, right? And you add that $3 a

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gallon, that's 9 cents that just goes to the credit card company. So the

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credit card company's making more than the retailer who sells

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the gasoline. And I saw this adding up, and most people don't

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know there's that tax. That's just, that's just the credit card fees. And these banks,

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they love it, so they have no interest in lobbying for

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lower gas prices. They love this shit. And the

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transfer of wealth that happened just before the markets fell

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in on themselves, because people had to decide, hey, do I want to pay this

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adjustable rate mortgage that I've got on this crappy piece of property Or do

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I want to give it back and buy gas? And then the—

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all bets are off. And then that's how you have all these overleveraged,

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you know, so-called masters of the universe over at Lehman Brothers or

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Bear Stearns. And now they can't pay their margins

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and get a margin call. You can't make your payments. It's everybody.

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It comes for them. It's whether you're Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers,

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it doesn't matter. Or if you're just Joe down the street.

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So, you know, we're in for some real turbulence

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when it comes to economics. This is what I'm looking at, so that's

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why I stay focused on it. I, you know, I hope I'm wrong, but,

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you know, you talk about those numbers, that number will go to 100%.

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Jesus, I hope you— um, no, you know what,

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I, I don't hope you're right because then that means things got way worse.

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So let's hope not. Uh, but I, I think there's

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enough already for those numbers to be at least close to 100%. Yeah.

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Uh, but, uh, that plays into what I

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think is a, a next-level

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genius orchestrated psychological operation that's been run on the

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American people. That's the only— that's the only explanation that I can

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come up with to justify what's going on here. Um, and I'm open to being

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wrong about that, uh, but it's— I— it's

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me trying to rationalize how the hell we got

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to this point. You know, um, and there's enough, uh,

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circumstantial evidence around, you know, out there to say that they're running ops on

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us, you know. So, um, so, so there's that. I'm gonna

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throw it to Ashley, uh, real quick. I do want to talk to Mr.

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Clinton Powell, um, who, who typically criticizes

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me all the time. I'm glad you're here, um, but, but this

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is, this is a good one, ladies and gentlemen. Christmas is coming,

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and it seems that I can't get the GI Joe with the kung fu grip

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that my kid wants, uh, somebody,

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uh, got some explaining to do. Now, if anybody can

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tell me where that's from, uh, you'll get a chicken dinner,

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um, for free also. So just

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putting it out there, ladies and gentlemen. Ashley, what's up? How are you?

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I'm good. So one of the things I was thinking about when you're talking

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about the people that are still continuing to support this

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administration, and what it reminds me of is a book

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that I read, and I'm, I'm bragging that I read this book

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because it was very painful for me to get through it.

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It took me a very long time, but I did it. So the book

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is called Ritual Abuse

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in the 21st Century: Psychological, Forensic, Social, and Political

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Implications. Okay, the reason that I'm bringing that up right

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now is because we're talking about this small percent of people that still support,

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and I know some of them that still support this administration.

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And what it reminded me of was one

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of the topics, one of the bullet points here is a destructive

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religious cult. And there are bullet points within that. And one

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of those is destructive sociopolitical cults.

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Now here they are more referring to like the,

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like the KKK or the, the Nazis or whatever.

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But that's what this reminds me of. And maybe the group

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of people that are followers are not out there actively intentionally harming people.

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Like the people that I know, they're not harming people on purpose,

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but by supporting what this administration is doing and

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by not being aware of it, or,

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or maybe even worse, a huge amount

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of denial, which always, you know,

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if we're looking at addiction or any problems in our own

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life, like the thing that we literally have to get over before moving

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on is denial. And so I think that

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that's a huge element here. And I think that this is a socio-political

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cult, and people that are in cults are

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notoriously difficult to get out of cults. Like,

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if you wanted to go to people that are in a Shemayan Shmology

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and say to them, like, you shouldn't be giving all of

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your money to this organization, you probably shouldn't be working for free,

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your kids probably shouldn't going to be working for free, or whatever that looks like.

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Like, they don't just wake up and believe you, right?

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Because there's so many other factors that are contributing

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to that. So, um, I know that's not exactly news related,

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but that's what it reminds me of, that we have people that are still supporting

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this administration in, in light of and in

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spite of everything that we've been talking about here, and, and actively worsening,

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uh, standard of living for the regular person.

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Absolutely, absolutely, 100%. I,

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I remember when you were reading that book, you know,

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I, and I can't, I can't get through something like that, you know,

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even if I tried, and I have tried. That's why I can't get through,

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get through those things. But, but no, I think you're 100% right. And, and more

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on that, uh, with Guerrilla Underground moving forward,

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that's the direction we're taking over there. I And I've been transparent

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about it. And I did a whole episode about it for anybody that's interested with

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Neil Sanders about how what I was involved in was

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a leaderless cult. I've come to that realization. I've accepted it,

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you know, um, and, and Neil has co-signed

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that, you know, and we were, we were in the same place at the same

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time doing the same things, you know, um, and so I was

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like, I, you know, and that's, it's not for everyone. I'm not

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saying that everybody else is involved in a cult. I just think that I was

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involved in a cult. You know, and so,

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and what Ashley said that's most impactful

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of all the points she made is that, you know, it's incredibly

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hard to get out of that. It's a different journey for everyone.

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And everybody has to come to their own realization. Nothing I am saying or anyone

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else is saying is going to get you out of it. Nothing. It has to

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be you. And that's, unique and,

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and different for each and every person, right?

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So it's, it's, it's a journey that we're doing, and I'm glad that you guys

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are here. I'm glad that you guys are open to listening to what we are

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saying, you know, and taking it in. You may not agree right now,

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you may agree later, you know, just— but you're here, and we

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appreciate that. Um, go ahead, Tom. Sorry, I wanted to say, I mean,

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go back to something we were talking about earlier about the the

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poll numbers. And I honestly, folks, I don't believe that it's going to be 100%,

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okay? Because nothing in politics or people's viewpoints

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is ever 100%. I'm— I was just saying that for effect. I think that it's

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going to be dramatic. But like Ashley's right too, if you look

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at— really study politics and you look at things like, uh,

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like the Jim Jones cult or, uh,

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the Heaven's Gate people, they're, they're very related to

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politics. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. And you, you emotionalize it.

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And then it becomes part of who you are. And because people consume

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so much of, you know, social media and

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other, uh, aggregation sites and all the, the algorithm

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itself where people— it embeds in their nervous system and their subconscious,

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so they become a part of like— and even the,

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the term sunk cost fallacy is in here. It's like,

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I've invested so much emotionally into this person or into

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this movement or I, I've donated, I put dollars

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up, you know, like they have to feel like that something's

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going to work out because they've given so much. That's called a sunk cost fallacy

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where you just continue to pour into it. Um, so I think that has

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to have time to wear off. I mean, it is just,

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you know, I was on Tinfoil Hat with Sam Tripoli out

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in LA a couple days ago, and we talked

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about this and is how how we had so much opportunity

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going into '25. There was a lot of, especially, um,

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worldwide, of that the United States could have gotten into, like deals

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and, uh, prosperity, and with innovations and AI

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and other things. And we just totally— like, this is going to go

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down in the history books as one of the biggest botched

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deals ever. Like, it— I don't know that they

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will have an equal. Uh, and I look at, you know, what's funny, I hope

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I'm wrong, but this is my analysis, like looking at everything, because like we'll read

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headlines and stuff. I just stay, I'll go to Kitco. I want to know what's

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happening with metals and currency. Like that's, that tells the story to me.

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Like we can get this probably a good segue for Japan,

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but, um, do the Japan thing.

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Well, and Ashley brought this up, I'm glad she did. I talked about it,

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uh, with David Knight last week But, um, we,

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we have an issue where the United States is quietly bailing

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out, uh, other countries and especially, uh, Japan itself.

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Like we're, we're using fake money to bail out their

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fake money. And, uh, I don't, we are adding fuel

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to the fire. And, um, the one thing that most folks don't understand

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is, and today by all days, This is the anniversary of when we

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went off the gold standard. It's August 15th. I just thought of this. It's August

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15th, 1971. Uh, the dollar was decoupled from gold,

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and it had been $35 an ounce for gold since 1933,

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right? That was part of when, uh, FDR did his first, like,

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real heist on the American people. And, uh,

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you weren't allowed to own gold after that, but we did have a, a dollar

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that was tethered to it, right? It was It was linked to gold,

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and foreign countries could exchange their dollars for gold at

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the gold window. But Nixon closed that in 1971,

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uh, because countries wanted that gold. They didn't want the dollars. So we did

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not deny them our gold reserves, uh, by going off the gold standard. So every

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country after that followed suit. Japan's no different.

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I mean, in Japan, the system that they have was set up,

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and their constitution was written by Douglas MacArthur. When he was

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Viceroy of Japan for 5 years. I mean, literally just like basically

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a quasi-emperor, and he wrote everything. Like, he continued— like, they have

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an American system. So they followed what we did with our currency

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in 1971, and now, uh,

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shockingly, like, their debt to GDP— so debt

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to gross domestic product in Japan is 250%,

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which is like— I mean, we're like 120.

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And that hasn't been that way since World War II for us.

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But we're getting like— we're getting into territory where

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all the currencies on Earth that are like this are going to have to be

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bailed out or reset. That's why you get the term the Great Reset.

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So a lot of this that we're talking about could be a sideshow to situations,

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um, an environment in which they can reset through foreign conflict

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or blame something on someone else. Like, we're reaching that point where

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false flags are— and re— you know,

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redirection could be the order of the day.

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So, Ashley, what's up? Go ahead. Sorry, Tony, finish your point. No,

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I was clearing my throat. I didn't want to put that on the audio.

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What's going on, Ashley? Yeah,

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I think that these things are, are all coming together with

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all the other things that we talked about at the beginning of this episode.

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So if it's weaponized incompetence or some kind of a game plan to leave the

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United States vulnerable, to leave the United States looking

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vulnerable. And then it's like I've been saying this over the last

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couple weeks, we are one assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand

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away from something really big kicking

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off. And I find it— I don't know, sometimes I'm like,

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am I just imagining this or what? Because we had

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this regular life leading into COVID times, right?

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Everything was fine. Did I appreciate it? No. And then one

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day everything changed just like that. So I find

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myself waiting for when that is going to be happening

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to us again, because this is something— and like

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Gregory Mannarino talks about this too— that the, the situation

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that we're in is moving from crisis to crisis to crisis to

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crisis constantly. So I think that I'm not being,

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I don't know, a doomer, and I don't mean to be a doomer when I'm

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saying this, but I'm very concerned about what is going to be the next

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you know, flick of the lighter that

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ignites a powder keg of whatever is coming down the pipe. And I think that

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it could be so many things because we have the war situation, because we

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have the vulnerability of the United States that has been set up militarily, but also

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financially. It's disconcerting.

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Fantastic. It is very disconcerting.

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I looked this up. I'm gonna, I'm gonna read it to you in just a

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second. Uh, W. Thomas Smith in the Rumble

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chat, you, my friend, are a gentleman and a scholar,

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uh, a next-level Babylonian Mystery School initiate.

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You figured it out. You get a chicken dinner. I'm not gonna say it out

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loud here. Uh, everybody else still has a chance. And if you don't know

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where this is from, where that quote was from, from earlier today that

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Tom Skerritt put up? I think I know. If, if you don't know and

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you're a child of the '80s or the '90s,

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I'm very ashamed of you. It's got to be '80s.

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I mean, the movie was from the '80s, but you know, if you're,

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if you're from the '90s, that's when I, when I had,

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you know, the— you and I were the same age, so that, that's when

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we had, I don't know, more— we weren't supposed

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to be watching those type of movies in the '80s, you know what I mean?

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So, uh, because we were, we were too young. Um, but,

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uh, but so, so that's why it, it, uh,

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like there's a bridge over to the '90s to like '95. I got like 2

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guesses. I, I— Tony, I got like 2.

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Just tell me that you know, okay? I don't want to know that you don't

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know this, all right? Because, because seriously. Anyway,

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all right, let me read this. This is really, really interesting. Check this

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out. The United States and Japan conducted a joint currency

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intervention to buy the Japanese yen

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and stabilize it after it hit a 40-year low.

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The U.S. acted to prevent Japan from

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offloading massive amounts of U.S. Treasuries,

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uh, to defend its currency, which would

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have spiked American borrowing costs and

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destabilized the global bond markets. That's crazy.

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See, I, I, well, I didn't know anything. I knew something had happened. I didn't

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think enough to look into it. Ashley brought it up this morning.

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Ashley scripted out about 50% of the show today.

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They want to talk about this, I want to talk about this. Um, and,

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uh, and that's why we're talking about it now. But it makes sense because Trump

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is incredibly selfish and stupid, right? So I'm like, what is the

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point of, of this? Why would he, uh, get involved

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with Japan in any way, you know, like to try to bail them out?

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And, uh, somebody, uh advise them, hey, if you don't do this,

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this is going to get worse, you know. So that makes a lot of sense

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now, you know. I'm like, all right, that's why it happened. Because this is— this

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is— I mean, in every administration and all these presidents, and nobody's perfect,

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they always, uh, do something that is

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ridiculous and stupid. But I think the Trump administration has taken it to,

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to another level. It's the upper echelon of dumbass. Dumbass dumb.

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Uh, how much time do we have left? We are at 50 minutes.

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All right, Tony, closing thoughts on all of this given the information that

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I just gave you. What's up? Oh, it fits that we would put

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our own currency in jeopardy by bailing out the Japanese, um,

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in a time when we— the country and the world desperately

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needs, uh, certainty. Markets hate uncertainty.

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We're giving them nothing but uncertainty. You got fear, uncertainty, and doubt. You got the

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FUD. And we give it FUD.

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We've been hammering that for, uh, the last couple of years.

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And instead of redoing, uh,

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you know, these terrible globalist ideas of just outsourcing everything,

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uh, running out the country's ability to manufacture, uh,

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trans— exporting our wealth, we accelerated the hell out of that.

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So you can say, well, we— what about the tariffs? Well, we, we totally botched

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that too. Because we use it as an extension of a weaponization of the dollar.

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So all— I mean, just bad ideas across the board.

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It, it really only makes sense if you're doing it on purpose.

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All right. I, I don't— I, we, you know,

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weaponized incompetence is, is something that I, I love to throw out

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there. Uh, it is certainly weaponized. Um, and that's—

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the jury's out on that, but we're definitely making these moves right now that will

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be detrimental and You wouldn't have to bail out Japan, uh,

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if the world understood that we're here to do business. Like Cal Coolidge said,

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you know, President Coolidge, like, the, the business of America is business. If that

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was the truth today, there'd be a lot more peace, a lot more prosperity,

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a lot more security. And, uh, we threw that away, uh, a while

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back. So it's not just this administration, but they are the worst,

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um, because it's, it's worse when you had the opportunity to

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be the greatest ever and you blew it. You know, there's,

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there's, there's something unforgivable about that.

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I don't think they ever stood a chance, Tony. Maybe not.

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Yeah, I, I don't think they ever stood a chance. Maybe not. I think it's,

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uh, it's, uh, it was from— you

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know me, we've been doing this for years now, and, and I've always had the

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same position on, on this piece of

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filth, you know. And so I, I don't think they ever had the

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best interest of the American people. And even if— let's give,

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let's give the orange monster, the child in chief,

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let's give him the benefit of the doubt and let's say he did have

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the best interest of the American people at heart.

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He was completely clueless as to how to get it done,

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and that's bare minimum. I don't think he ever had any

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intentions, knowing this piece of filth I don't, I don't think he ever

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cared about anyone other than himself.

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He is incapable of it. But if you want to put that aside,

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I'm willing to put that aside and say, you know what, maybe he did

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have the best intentions for America, but the guy is a next-level

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dumbass, so he can't get it done. And he

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brought in next-level dumbasses to surround him 9 times out of

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10. Not all of them, but a lot of them, in particular Pete Hegseth.

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That. Okay, Ashley gets the closing thoughts for the show,

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and then we're gonna do some shoutouts, and then we're getting out of here.

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Ashley, thank you. Um, what are you thinking of all of this? And we're getting

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out of here. Yeah, so one thing that I was thinking about is that I

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find it very interesting that a lot of other times— now

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granted, I have been out of like most of the media where people

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may be hearing about stuff like this— but do you remember when, um, even in

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the Bush administration and the Obama administration, there were like no bailouts?

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No bailouts for the airline industry, no bailouts for the banks. Like, there was a

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big to-do to be made about bailouts. And then this one,

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I just, I don't know, it seems more ominous to me because it's

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kind of like under the radar. Not a big deal has been made about this

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particular, um, you know,

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interaction with Japan. So I find that concerning. And then the last thing

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is that I, I'm curious about y'all's thoughts really quick before

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we go, because Michael Burry of The Big Short fame

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has also been predicting a huge bust

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of the AI bubble. I think the biggest

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piece of that, in my understanding at this point at least, is that

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because so much funding has gone into Nvidia, it's super

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highly valued, but that this pattern has played out before. Like, their demand

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that they are producing for is eventually going to come to an end. So this

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is something else that I just— obviously, I'm not an expert in these things,

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but I'm wondering if that is going to be a piece

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of the puzzle when the powder keg goes

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will be not only what is happening with Japan or the,

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our, the condition of our currency, the vulnerability from the military

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perspective, and also this AI bubble if

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it actually is going to pop. On Drudge,

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uh, they were talking about the mass exodus from, uh, I think it was OpenAI,

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that, that people are, are leaving OpenAI.

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Um, we're gonna get into a little bit of that in Guerrilla Underground.

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Listen, if I don't drop the episode on Sunday,

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because I am leaving, I'm just not leaving today. So if

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I don't drop the episode on Sunday, I'm, I'm gonna drop

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it on Monday. It'll just be me. Um, but we're going to talk about this.

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There's one key person that defected from,

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um, OpenAI, if I remember correctly, and she went

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over to this, um, San Francisco-based

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AI company. It's called The Conduit,

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and they're doing some very, very interesting things.

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You know, uh, they're, they're framing it as

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telepathy. We're gonna leave it at that,

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okay? And, uh, if, if you are interested— cliffhanger,

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ladies and gentlemen— Gorilla Underground, we're gonna do

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it either, either Sunday night or, or Monday

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Night Live. Um, but we'll definitely putting it

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up on the Guerrilla Underground, uh, podcast stream. We've changed

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the name of the Infinite Fringe to Guerrilla Underground. That's done. So now you got

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to look for Guerrilla Underground and, and put it up there. I, I will post

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links. I'll try to promote this as best as possible. So if you're really interested

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and, and you follow me or you follow Tony, you'll see it.

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I'll ask Tony to retweet it, and so you'll see um,

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the posting and you'll know where to find it. Um, so we're, we're going to

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talk about that. It's a very, very interesting situation what's going on,

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you know. And, and to be totally transparent, as soon as I heard that,

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I went to check if this company was publicly traded.

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I'm like, you know what, are they publicly traded? Because this is the wave of

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the future. We're not going to avoid this,

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so we need to position ourselves in a way uh,

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that's beneficial to us and our families and act accordingly.

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Just saying. Um, that's it. That's all we got,

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uh, for this week. Leave us

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a review over on Apple Podcasts. The reviews have dried

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up, so we need more reviews, please. Uh, oh, Ashley left a

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review. Thank you. That's right. That's good. I was gonna say Ashley left a review.

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Thank you. I saw that. I meant to talk to you about it, man.

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Thank you so much. That was very nice and very kind of— see, folks,

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you leave a review, get to co-host. Yeah.

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Um, um, Tony, do you have to go? No, I don't

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have to go right away. All right, so you wanna, you wanna, um, shout out

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people with me for 10 minutes along with Ash? Yeah. And I want you to

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stick around late. I'm assuming Ash could stick around. So yeah, and I wanted

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to say, just on the point of, of the AI bubble and the bubble itself,

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which is in the markets right now, uh, I've I anticipate that. I've been

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feeling that for a while. There's a lot, especially with what's going on with

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energy and banking, like just below the surface. So I

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would be very cautious right now. I do think that the

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future is like what you're talking about, like the innovations in AI are the future.

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Um, definitely you can't escape that. You need to look at what that means,

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uh, ethically, financially, spiritually, all that stuff. It's built— that is the

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future though. I'm doing my best to study it, understand it, so I can make

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better decisions. But a lot of these companies, what you have to realize,

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um, the majority of these, these stocks that are traded now are things

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that go public. Um, they're not your grandfather's

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stock market. They're not based off profit. They're based off of proximity.

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Uh, how much, how much leverage can you get? Uh, how much funding

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can you get? And a lot of them will carry negative balances in

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annually, so they're not even you know, technically they're just at a

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loss, they're just bleeding. But because it's based off the future,

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like, you know, some of these companies are based off like 100 times earnings or

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something. That'd be like Wise Wolf at 100 times earnings would

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be like an insane number, you know, like it would just be like 100 Wise

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Wolves. Which, you know, for me personally, um,

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I've just started working on chipping away and paying off everything I have,

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not having a car loan, not having a house, not having as much as I

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can because I don't My bet is that we'll go through turbulence

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before we'll go through any sort of, of any sort of stability or

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equilibrium when it comes to markets. And right now it's just nuts, and it's

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a drunken party, and I want none of it, man.

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That's sound advice, I think, man. I've been, I've been trying to do something similar.

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Um, it's, it's more difficult for me, but it's all— I also have probably less,

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less debt than you. Um, because I own less stuff, you know,

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but, um, but I need to get out of debt, you know. Um, so I've

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been trying to just chop at that and try to— I don't know if it's

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realistic. I don't know if it's— if— I mean, it's definitely realistic. I don't know

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if it's the best strategy to move forward, right,

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financially. Um, but I— for me, it seems

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like, well, that's the way to go. That's all I— I'm— so I'm debt-free.

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I have no debt. Yep. And I got rid of that, uh, starting last,

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uh, about 18 months ago. And I just said, I don't have to carry

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these. So, you know, I don't know if maybe next year if I want a

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new truck, I might get one or something like that, or 2 years from now.

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Um, but right now I don't have it. And so that means that, um,

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I can weather storms more easily. Good for you. So I— that's the advice

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that I give. Not everybody can go, oh, I'm just going to cut a check,

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I'll be— no, I understand that. But like, to chip away or to

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restructure your own leverage. And what I'd mentioned earlier,

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like, the— what got these so-called smart sets

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and what, what buries people is leverage.

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Leverage can be good, you know, if you go, uh, buy an apartment building,

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you know, if it's a million dollars but you get, you know, enough, uh,

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rents to cover it plus flow, then that's fine. That doesn't— that leverage doesn't

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matter that much, uh, and that's safe debt.

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But if you're talking about like just your own personal, like a house you know,

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things, cars and all that stuff, it just starts to compound. And if,

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you know, gas prices double or go up 30%,

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and then all the rest of the economy starts following

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suit because it has to because of transportation, cost of goods, and all that stuff,

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you— it makes harder to make those payments. So it puts more downward pressure

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on you. And I don't think that, um, with the Operation

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Let's Screw Over America that's happening right now, I don't think these idiots are

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going to undo the damage that they have done anytime soon.

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And, you know, with the midterms, um, you know, not that I— you know,

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politics to me is almost irrelevant, but it'll just be one

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giant impeachment hearing for the next 2 years. There won't even be

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any good legislation passed, even if that's even possible. Let's do it. I'm with it.

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That's what it'll be. Let's do it. And I'm with— I'm with

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impeachment, number one. Don't— don't, um,

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Don't put all the reasons for impeachment in one.

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There's, there's tons of reasons we can impeach this

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guy for. Do one by one by one by one. One of

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them fails, queue up the next one. Let's do it for 2 years.

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All right, let's do it and let's get him out of there. And if we

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don't get him out of there, let's lock his ass up afterwards. Of course,

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of course, it's probably not gonna happen. I get it, I understand. Okay,

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but the least we can do is try. So freaking

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impeachment after impeachment after impeachment after impeachment.

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Think, change, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat.

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I'm all for it. I'm 100% behind each

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one. I'm telling you now where I stand on this.

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Don't ask me later, are you down with this? Yes, I am, 100%.

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Let's get the buffoon out of office. Let's,

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let's not give our, our support to JD Vance

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who is bought by the technocrats. Freaking Stephen Miller is a racist.

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Let's get him the hell out of there. All of these people— Pete Hegseth is

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incompetent at bare minimum. He's also a crazy

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Christian fundamentalist. He needs to go. These people

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need to go. I'm not about it. It's just what

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it is. All right, it's America Unplugged. Tony Arderburn, who is out of debt.

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Freaking Ashley, who's probably out of debt. I still have school

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loans to pay off. But I'm doing all right. I'll be okay,

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um, I think. Tony, tell the

01:00:00.993 --> 01:00:04.220
people where they can find you, buddy. Uh, you can find me at tony.gold,

01:00:04.252 --> 01:00:07.572
my website, uh, and the Art of Burn radio transmission, which was

01:00:07.588 --> 01:00:11.011
hosted by Ashley this past week. Excellent show, guys. Go find that,

01:00:11.140 --> 01:00:14.273
that show that she hosted. Did a magnificent job. I just put it— I put

01:00:14.773 --> 01:00:18.576
it on the RSS feed yesterday on the podcast channel, so go check that out.

01:00:18.642 --> 01:00:22.764
tony.gold. Uh, for all your, um, converting fake fiat

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currency into real money needs. Also has links there to Wise Wolf and Wolfpack.

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That's what we're talking about. Big news coming for America Unplugged.

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Uh, I don't know about big news, it's changes. Changes are coming,

01:00:35.614 --> 01:00:39.352
so, uh, uh, stay up for that. Changes on Gorilla Underground.

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We're working on stuff. We're not, we're not sitting on our asses. We're working on

01:00:42.996 --> 01:00:45.945
stuff, trying to make things better for all of you. Ashley is here. Thank you.

01:00:46.282 --> 01:00:49.810
For subbing in today and every time you do. Thank you for everything you

01:00:50.310 --> 01:00:53.883
do to help us, uh, in our little small operation here. We appreciate

01:00:54.383 --> 01:00:58.004
you. Tell the people what's going on. Yeah, thank you so much, both of

01:00:58.504 --> 01:01:02.141
you, for the opportunity to be on with you and, uh, for the Artburn Radio

01:01:02.641 --> 01:01:05.685
transmission. I really appreciate every single opportunity, and,

01:01:06.150 --> 01:01:09.758
um, it's an honor for me. Um, you can find me at

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my Linktree, which is just Linktree Think Change Repeat. That's where all the

01:01:14.058 --> 01:01:17.952
stuff I got going on and that I've been working on in these last

01:01:18.452 --> 01:01:20.715
next, uh, couple months. So that's where I'm at.

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Fantastic. Okay, help me shout people out. We're gonna go to,

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um, YouTube and the Twitterverse before we

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go over to Rumble. Uh, Chris Graves is in the chat.

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Chris, it's, it's good to, good to see you, good to hear from you.

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God bless you, buddy. Hope you're doing well. Um,

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who is in here? BB, how you doing? BB Netanyahu,

01:01:43.174 --> 01:01:46.980
did you know that BB listens to the show? Is it

01:01:47.333 --> 01:01:50.944
Bebe or Bebe Rabbanzo? I don't know if it's Bebe or BB. I did

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Bebe before and then Don called him BB, so I'm going with BB now.

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Oh, but that was, uh, Nixon's best friend. So say

01:01:58.907 --> 01:02:02.677
hello to Bebe Rabbanzo out of Florida in the 1970s.

01:02:02.773 --> 01:02:06.015
Good to see you. All right, fine. I, I liked it better when it was

01:02:06.111 --> 01:02:09.097
BB, and we can make references to, uh, the,

01:02:09.321 --> 01:02:12.772
the, the war criminal from Israel. That's a deep— that, like,

01:02:12.788 --> 01:02:16.208
that's a deep reference. Whoever came up with that, a great screen name,

01:02:16.962 --> 01:02:20.174
Nixon's Buddy. All right, that's cool. I think you need to update it,

01:02:21.121 --> 01:02:24.782
you know, but that's cool. You need to update it to BB so I

01:02:24.894 --> 01:02:28.170
could use it, you know, and, and, and make, make jokes out of it.

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We appreciate you. We're here every week. Oh, just about. Thank you for listening.

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Um, what else do we have? Twisted Pistol,

01:02:35.492 --> 01:02:38.767
who is— who— that's, that's the dude. He, he's, he's really,

01:02:39.024 --> 01:02:41.960
uh been following this Tyler Robinson thing,

01:02:42.554 --> 01:02:45.875
and, uh, there was a debate with Candace Owens and some, some dude

01:02:46.404 --> 01:02:50.672
yesterday, and it, it's infiltrated my algorithm. It's all I see,

01:02:50.752 --> 01:02:53.912
and I don't want to see it anymore. Um, but, uh, but Twisted's been,

01:02:53.977 --> 01:02:57.586
uh, following that and watching it, and we can't stop talking about it. Um,

01:02:57.650 --> 01:03:00.506
but all good stuff. What's up, Twisted? How are you? Thank you for tuning in,

01:03:00.699 --> 01:03:03.619
my guy. Uh, Bronx Stompers is in the chat.

01:03:03.667 --> 01:03:07.299
What's up? How are you? Good to see Uh, Thomas Clayton is in the

01:03:07.799 --> 01:03:11.043
chat. Thank you for tuning in. Um, he knows where the,

01:03:11.189 --> 01:03:14.951
the movie reference was from. Trading Places, guys. Come on, come on,

01:03:14.984 --> 01:03:18.605
guys, come on. My name is Billy Ray Valentine,

01:03:18.621 --> 01:03:22.001
for Christ's sakes. Jeez. All right,

01:03:22.098 --> 01:03:24.809
okay, let me see what else is going on here. Uh, who do we have?

01:03:25.228 --> 01:03:29.048
Got Chris Cayenne. And am I saying that correctly?

01:03:29.258 --> 01:03:32.675
Cayenne Akuma? I'm not sure. We'll go by Akuma.

01:03:32.740 --> 01:03:35.535
How are you? RB Ham is in the chat. What's up, RB? How you doing?

01:03:35.632 --> 01:03:38.251
I don't know if Don is going to join you later tonight. I don't know

01:03:38.751 --> 01:03:41.512
if you're doing a show. Post that and, and we'll promote it. Uh,

01:03:42.155 --> 01:03:45.449
Patrice Hardman is in the chat. How are you? Hey,

01:03:45.545 --> 01:03:49.643
Marco, what's going on? Greetings and blessings to you. Um, who else?

01:03:49.691 --> 01:03:53.242
Who do we have over on Rumble, sir? Let's see. Uh,

01:03:53.788 --> 01:03:56.969
let me, let me get TC. TC from Connecticut is in the chat.

01:03:57.098 --> 01:03:59.875
Good to see you. How are you? Go ahead, buddy. Uh,

01:04:00.052 --> 01:04:02.651
Bronx Stomper 111 is over on, uh,

01:04:02.956 --> 01:04:05.476
Rumble. Uh, Misfit 1904.

01:04:05.877 --> 01:04:09.985
Let's see, B-Hops 1. What's up, B-Hops? We got Lucky

01:04:10.097 --> 01:04:13.756
over there. Is that Lucky?

01:04:14.575 --> 01:04:18.474
Yeah, the Lucky. The Lucky is in the— the Lucky. It says, Tony, please call

01:04:18.586 --> 01:04:21.956
Lucky. I, I just talked to Lucky. I need to call her again. I will

01:04:22.133 --> 01:04:25.647
do it. If Lucky's saying to call her, you gotta call Uh,

01:04:25.728 --> 01:04:28.842
or Right Now Man also in the chat. What's up? What's going on? Go ahead,

01:04:28.858 --> 01:04:31.683
buddy, finish up. Uh, I'm, I'm looking. Uh,

01:04:32.004 --> 01:04:35.536
let's see. Uh, Tara Wild

01:04:36.036 --> 01:04:39.067
is there. Who's that? Tara Pretter Wild.

01:04:39.308 --> 01:04:42.566
What's up? What's up? Yeah, yeah. Uh, Goldsmith was in the chat. How are you?

01:04:42.631 --> 01:04:46.563
Guard Goldsmith, the great Guard Goldsmith. Uh, you know, Jason Barker

01:04:46.692 --> 01:04:50.031
is over in the chat. Uh, Karen Carpenter

01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:52.471
is in the chat. What's up, Karen? She has a new— she has a new

01:04:52.971 --> 01:04:55.650
show. Surreal Surroundings. I haven't, I haven't, um,

01:04:56.180 --> 01:04:59.584
seen it, but I will. Uh, congratulations on your show. What were you saying,

01:04:59.680 --> 01:05:02.137
Tony? Uh, just calling out more, uh,

01:05:03.228 --> 01:05:07.146
more screen names. Greg Dub 27 over there and Rumble

01:05:07.483 --> 01:05:10.550
Dub. And this, we haven't done this in a while, so sorry for the Rumble.

01:05:10.598 --> 01:05:14.018
Probably feels like we just don't care. It's, it's the fact that we haven't linked.

01:05:14.388 --> 01:05:17.695
Um, like sometimes the, the chat doesn't show up on our

01:05:18.642 --> 01:05:22.476
Like today, feed like today, like today we miss all

01:05:22.976 --> 01:05:25.925
the comments. Uh, Ron Helton, what's going on, Ron?

01:05:25.989 --> 01:05:29.133
Yeah, Tony Ty 06. What's up, Tone? Hit me up.

01:05:29.711 --> 01:05:32.325
Go ahead. Uh, Nature Boy. I know who that is.

01:05:32.438 --> 01:05:36.608
Nature Boy is over there. All right, the greatest professional wrestler

01:05:37.108 --> 01:05:39.977
of all time, arguably, the Nature Boy Ric Flair.

01:05:40.923 --> 01:05:43.907
Um, yeah, if you, if,

01:05:44.083 --> 01:05:47.003
if you, if anybody in the chat— I know we got our wrestling fans in

01:05:47.035 --> 01:05:49.441
the chat— if you feel differently, please let me know, but he might be the

01:05:49.941 --> 01:05:53.676
greatest of all time. All right, go ahead, Tom. I think that's about it

01:05:54.176 --> 01:05:57.318
for now. All right, anybody that we missed, uh, God bless

01:05:57.818 --> 01:06:00.863
you. Dawn Lambert, how are you? Greetings and blessings to you.

01:06:01.617 --> 01:06:05.307
Um, so if we missed you, we didn't mean it. We tried. Um,

01:06:05.387 --> 01:06:09.093
and we will catch you next week, Lord willing. I, I may

01:06:09.593 --> 01:06:12.269
or may not be here next week, so that's, that's a good thing for those

01:06:13.023 --> 01:06:15.927
Billy Ray Valentine haters. You know, I'm not gonna be here, so tune in.

01:06:16.393 --> 01:06:19.508
But if you, if you tune in to hate me, I'm not going to be

01:06:20.008 --> 01:06:22.109
here. Just giving you, giving you a heads up. I might be here, but I'm

01:06:22.334 --> 01:06:25.770
not sure if I will or won't. Um, regardless, it's been a pleasure

01:06:26.428 --> 01:06:29.623
to be here with, with both of you. So much fun. I wasn't

01:06:30.123 --> 01:06:33.605
expecting this, uh, this morning. Gorilla Underground.

01:06:33.654 --> 01:06:37.074
Gorilla Underground, um, on Apple Podcasts,

01:06:37.507 --> 01:06:40.719
the Gorilla Underground YouTube channel, and Gorilla Underground, of course,

01:06:40.863 --> 01:06:44.151
on X. Um, for now. There'll, there'll be

01:06:44.651 --> 01:06:48.304
more coming, Lord willing, and, uh, and additional projects to

01:06:48.336 --> 01:06:51.880
that. So, uh, we're gonna be moving. We're gonna try to give it

01:06:52.380 --> 01:06:55.600
a shot, Lord willing. Uh, shouts to Dustin Helm. Shouts to,

01:06:55.696 --> 01:06:59.112
um, John Brisson. Charlie Robinson

01:06:59.160 --> 01:07:02.046
is over in, in Serbia, I think. Yeah,

01:07:02.527 --> 01:07:06.023
you know, with, with, with Mark Libra Poco. Yeah, um,

01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:10.086
they're doing that, so shouts to them. Um, Who else?

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Who, who are we missing? We said guard. We, we got, uh, Wayne McCroy.

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What's up, how are you? Um, Don Jeffries,

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of course, the legendary drafting the greatest, uh, uh, fantasy football

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team in the history of fantasy football teams. That's it, we're done. Uh,

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Ashley, Knights of the Storm.

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Sorry, I had him on mute. Yes, uh, uh, yes,

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Knights of the Storm coming up at 2 PM today with Jason Karen

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and Denver Attaway. What's up, Denver? How you doing? It's gonna

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be a dope show. Tune in if you can. All right, Tone, burn this shit

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down to the ground. It's time to go. Done.