#232 America Unplugged: Iran, the Strait of Hormuz, and the War on Reality

0:00 author of Hidden History and Survival of the Richest, host of the Donald Jeffreys Show, Billy Ray Valentine, Billy Ray Valentine, host of the Infinite Fringe podcast, researcher, truth seeker from the Bronx, New York, Tony Arterburn, Tony Arterburn, radio host, combat veteran, precious metals analyst, and alt historian. Together, they take on the headlines of the week, decode the disinformation, and plow through the mainstream propaganda. Unauthorized, unscripted, and unintimidated. Unintimidated. This is America Unplugged.

0:41 What's going on, everybody? It is America Unplugged. Hope everybody is doing well. The War on Reality Report. Tony Arterburn, the wisest of all the wolves. How are you, sir? Welcome back to your show. What's going on? It's good to be back. Good to see you. I'm glad Ashley's here. I'm sorry we are missing the legendary Don Jeffries. You know, he has that, is it once a year he does the DB Cooper signing ceremony thing that he does? Yeah, yeah. People don't know, Don Jeffries is DB Cooper. Is DB Cooper. We sussed that out a while ago. Here on America Unplugged. We've told you this before, but for some reason you don't want to listen. Listen. Never. He is DB Cooper. Go check him out.

1:22 And he will tell you all the stories. He'll let you in. It's a very small club and most of you are not in it and you want to be in it. You want to be in this club. Ashley is joining us from Knights of the Storm and her own show. What is up, Ashley? Think, change, repeat. Say what's up to the people. Hello, everybody. Thank you so much for having me on. And as always, happy to be here. AU is one of my favorite shows. The one thing I still have to do is leave my five-star review so that you'll read it on air. You get to say what you want. Yes. You'll be able to tell the full truth there. So I still have to do that. Damn. Looking forward to that one. Pipe bombs, ladies and gentlemen, going to be dropped next week on America Unplugged when Ashley tells us the truth of how she feels about this show.

2:07 Anyway, as usual, shit is hitting the fan. The ceasefire that wasn't a ceasefire that is a ceasefire, depending on who you speak to, but in real life it's not. It's the war on reality. Up is down. Left is right. War is peace. Ladies and gentlemen, the Strait of Hormuz was open. Let's let the oil flow, Mr. Trump said, but then they shut it down again. You know, and then Trump says, we're going to drop bombs on your heads. You know, before we get into this, a small sidetrack here. This man is supposed to be the negotiator of all negotiators.

2:51 I make deals. That's what I do. I make the best deals. I'm the best dealmaker. Um, damn, whatever happened to that? You know, it's like, yeah, if you don't do this, I'm going to bomb you. And then he doesn't even follow through on that. Thank the Lord. Although there are things going on right now, right? I think the US did attack on something. If I'm correct, we'll go on on the headlines and figure this out real quick. But Tony may have better insight on this. What what is going on? The straight got closed again in the United States, attacked something. And I heard this morning by Brissom that Iran attacked a ship. Also, that may have happened.

3:32 What's up, buddy? Well, I guess I've taken my eye off the ball. I was following the Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey wedding that's supposed to come up. And it's going to be in your neck of the woods, too. But I don't know if you got tickets yet. OK, I figured you would. You would go. Yeah, the Democratic elite invited me. So I'm going to go. Chuck Schumer was like, Billy, I know you're not a Democrat, but everybody seems to think you are. Please come to see Taylor Swift. I was like, how freaking? Yeah, I'm coming to see Taylor Swift. AOC is coming with. I knew I could count on you to be interested in what really the headlines. I mean, that was it made it front page a drudge about three links down. So it's doing pretty well. The work, you know, isn't necessarily being covered right now, even though it is the most important, you know, that choke point of energy in the Strait of Hormuz.

4:23 We have given the Iranians unprecedented leverage after this. OK, and it's showing, you know, back in 2007, there was a push before the end of the second term of George W. Bush. You know, you had the GWAT, the Global War on Terror, and the neocon said there are seven countries in five years plan still going strong. They wanted to push it. We got bogged down in Iraq. You had the concept of the surge. You remember that, which is a fancy way of saying more troops, you know, because the Rumsfeld thought we could hold Iraq with 50000 troops. And of course, we had, you know, CIA funded terror groups that became things like ISIS, which is what Al Qaeda was.

5:04 A lot of blowback, a lot of strange things happening in Iraq at the time. So the Iran war was postponed, but a lot of people anticipated it. One of those people being Pat Buchanan was anticipating that we were going to strike, do something with Iran. First of all, you have the APAC Israeli interest in destabilizing the region for the greater Israel project. But Iran also at the same time enjoyed a windfall of of the unknown. And what I mean by that is their main export is energy. And whenever Iran would rattle its saber or even remember Ahmadinejad, the president of Iran at the time was very vocal, which pretty much all the ayatollahs and leaders of Iran have been since 1979 and back.

5:53 But he was very vocal about anti-Israel, anti-American stuff. And so he would go out and he would rattle the saber. And lo and behold, I noticed this back in the 07, 08 timeframe. I said, oh, you know what happens when they do that? The price of oil goes up. You know who gets rich when that happens? Iran. And so you don't have to be a genius to figure out that they're pretty much in what you call a cat bird seat. They can drag this out a little bit longer. They had they hold the keys to open the flow of things at will. So, you know, when you have this back and forth and it's kind of like Groundhog Day, well, the Strait of Hormuz Hormuz is closed again, you know, and now it's open and now it's closed.

6:35 And as Ashley was saying, it's like Wayne's World Wayne game on kind of thing. That's what's happening. And, you know, again, the president can threaten all he wants. But if you go back to June 22nd, 2025, which is, I pointed out, I don't know if anybody else did the anniversary of Operation Barbarossa when the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union in World War Two in 1941. That's when we had the big at the the culmination of the 12 day war when we dropped the big bomb on there, you know, and took out their so-called nuclear facilities and we're going to stop them from ever having a nuclear weapon.

7:17 Well, if you look at the rhetoric out of the president leading up to that time, he was saying things like evacuate Tehran. Uncon in all caps, threatening the end of a civilization like we've never had that sort of this has never happened before, so we've never had that kind of rhetoric from a president United States. You've had unintentional things like, you know, I've even talked about, you know, Reagan was caught off on, you know, he was a hot mic saying he was going to end the Soviet Union. He was joking. You know, he said the bombers were on the way. He didn't know he was being recorded, which is totally different. And, you know, he called the Soviet Union one time an evil empire.

7:59 We've had that sort of slip every once in a while. But to say you're going to end a civilization and then you don't. Then you have somebody like Pete Hex says saying we can do whatever we want with impunity. We own the skies over Tehran. But the problem is, is that Iran holds the keys to the vital organs of the world's energy system. So you didn't think that all the way through. You can't really hold the Strait of Hormuz that way. You know, it would take a massive coalition of multinations because Iran is going to defend that position to the death. You know, they'll continue to use like old technology and older missile systems and drones and cheap stuff while we're cranking out billions of dollars trying to defend that system.

8:48 So it's there's an imbalance there. I think Iran is just playing off that. And we look weak and we look dismayed. And our inner political coalition is crumbling. That's why you go back to something. I believe it was Lord Acton was talking about or maybe it was AGP Taylor was saying something about that. To the mark of a great nation is to be able to fight a great war and how you remain a great nation is by not fighting one. We're figuring that out right now in real time. The American empire is on the ropes and that's unfortunate for the people of the world and it's unfortunate for the people of our country. So something I think it's sad to watch, but I don't think it's much more than just leverage and utilizing their power to control the energy markets at will.

9:35 Incredible, man. It is very sad to watch. Ashley, what do you got? So I feel like this, like what Tony is talking about, in my opinion, it is the issue of note at the moment. Like there's a lot happening, but this one particular issue has so many moving pieces that I look at it maybe like a root system or something. But basically I have been looking for the rhetoric that we're hearing in regards to the situation. So number one, we hear that we have created a superpower. So just looking at it from, for me, if I were looking for what could be a talking point coming from the narrative managers or the propagandists or the PR teams or whatever.

10:24 So that's what I, one of the things at a high level. Okay, so that is one piece of like talking point that I've heard quite a bit in regards to Iran. We've created a superpower. Also what Tony is talking about as far as this does have the appearance of the sun setting of the American empire. And so whether or not that is intentional from a propagandist angle, that is the look to the rest of the world, which would be convenient in setting up these kind of the multipolar system of the North American technique. I'm not saying for sure that's what it is, but I think it's interesting to at least consider in that context.

11:08 And then we also have the piece of, which Tony also mentioned, the greater Israel project. So Israel has unceasingly continued to bomb Lebanon in the name of going after Hezbollah. And even though that has been in the MOU, that was one of the big sticking points is we want Israel out of Lebanon. And I would think if you were adversarial to Israel that this is obviously a risk for the entire area, if they're able to get that piece of land and continue utilizing that. Now, is this an actual greater Israel or is this Israel, they don't even need to fully take over, but they need to destabilize the region.

11:52 I'm not sure about that, but it's something I'm considering. Then the other thing is what is actually happening on the day-to-day. So what we see happening is that every other day, we're getting a new message. We're building up, building up. We've got this important MOU, concessions are being made. It's a full loss for the United States. And then nothing ever happens, but they literally talk about it all week. So then I think you have the market manipulation piece of all of this and a wealth transfer, which happens every single major global event. This is what continues to happen. We saw that in the pandemic times. We're seeing that in the connections with data centers. And we're seeing that with the war machine.

12:33 So we have wealth transfer going up, up, up, up to the top 1% or whatever. And then on the other thing, we have qui bono. So who else benefits? And like what Tony was saying, Iran benefits. Now, if you're looking at this from a logical perspective, and I'm not saying that the people that are making decisions here in the States are being logical, but they had to have known that they would be putting Iran in a position of power or the catbird seat, like what Tony said. So what they did makes no sense only in the context of this is an intentional squeezing of the American people.

13:14 It's an intentional destabilization of the entire world, because all of these relationships are so intimately involved and connected. And so it absolutely makes no sense in that way. And then taking into consideration the globalist talking points of what they, the rhetoric that they have been uttering for years and years and years and wondering, well, isn't this convenient for them? So I think that we don't, some of this stuff, because it's actively happening, we are really not going to know until we have the benefit of hindsight being 2020 to see what actually happened. And I think part of that is the chaos, the day-to-day, there is no, it's absolutely all over the map.

13:59 So I think that there could be some, deliberate confusion and propagandists have said that they wanted to keep people in a state of like excited confusion, basically. And when you have people in that state of not knowing what's going on, then other members of the predator class do have an opportunity to prey on people who are not in a good head space to follow. So, sorry, I know that was a lot, but- I agree. And you know, it brings to mind, if you look at the structure and if you study like the alternative views of history or the conspiratorial view, obviously this is beyond geopolitics at some point, like there is a push by some at the top to create an energy choke point for a greater end, which is, you know, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy sort of mindset, but it is tribal.

14:55 And I think we can see that through, there's different coalitions and different factions of what you would call the parasite class or the new world order or whatever that is. There is something behind that. I mean, you could get one faction that wants to have sort of an Armageddon, you know, greater Israel project, third temple thing, or you get the depopulation enthusiasts that want, and again, one world government, you know, a top-down ruling system, a technocracy or a technate, as Ashley mentioned. So this is other stuff to watch. I mean, it's more complicated than Iran wants, you know, a greater supply of cash and a windfall and profit.

15:38 I'm just pointing out that that's convenient for them. And I think that they'll probably do that in the short term. And Iran is being used as a chess piece by these factions and those who want to set up the world in a different way. You can clearly see the United States and its standing is being diminished. And I don't think it's any kind of accident. I mean, you can label it as incompetence, but I think we're way beyond that. It's multi-layered. And I do think that in some level, this is a track that we're on. There's a sequence going on with the draining of American power, American standing, and then the choking off, or at least a simulation to see what happens.

16:25 I mean, people don't understand. Like if you read into the statistics here and the data, we were so damn close to wrecking the whole world economy on just this one thing, because it's so fragile. I mean, the energy is what drives everything. You can say, it's like the people that get an electric car and like, hey, what's your favorite form of energy? Like, oh, electricity. And like, well, okay, that's a by-product of energy. That's a by-product of either coal or nuclear power, or it's just petroleum power. So it has to come from something. And I think people misunderstand that because for so long, we've just had open supply chain, and especially since the 1970s.

17:06 But clearly the ruling class wants to choke that off, wants to figure out how to get us less mobile and make things out. Instead, they can't get us out of our cars fast enough. They're going to try to make it to where we can't drive them because it's so damn expensive. Well, eventually all of this was going to end, meaning the American empire, right? There's nothing that is forever. And I think we can all agree on that. And the decline has been happening for quite some time, right? Whether, I think it's not black and white, right? I think some powers did seek to realign the world while there were some miscalculations, some errors, and a bunch of other stuff that came in the way of all of this, particularly the weaponization of the dollar, right?

17:56 These people that didn't understand what that was going to do on the world stage. They think that US power is unshakable, unmovable, right? And unchallenged. And that's far from the truth. I mean, I was talking to Tony months ago and I told him, I'm like, we were talking about the world reserved currency and I'm like, well, the world doesn't need a world reserved currency after a while, you know? And this was gonna happen regardless. This was gonna be, this is the natural transition of things in my opinion, this was going to happen. So there was the managed decline, right? And then there is the full blown, let's fly off Niagara Falls decline.

18:41 And that's what we are experiencing right now. And I think the reason for that is very simple. We can analyze it 8,000 different ways, right? I look at Benjamin Netanyahu and what's going on in Israel, what's going on in the Middle East and what's been going on in the Middle East for quite some time. And I look at the infinite stupidity of Donald Trump and how he can be manipulated, you know, because they approached, you know, the senile ass Joe Biden with the same plan and Joe Biden turned it down, okay? Donald Trump was stupid enough and gullible enough and he needed his ego fed so much because they told him you are going to save the world that he went along with this.

19:32 And these are people, it's important to keep in mind for the sake of the argument, these are people that are bloodthirsty for Armageddon. They believe that their religious philosophy is factual and superior to all others and they are trying to fulfill their interpretation of ancient prophecy. As crazy as that might sound, go listen to Pete Hexeth or Paula White for a little while. Mike Johnson's stupid ass. These people are dumb as stones and they're in cults, religious cults along with the MAGA cult.

20:21 I think this is why we are here. They don't give a damn about the American people. They don't, they never have, right? They don't give a damn about the day-to-day and you can make that argument across the board in political parties at the elite level, at the top levels, the bread, they don't give a shit about anything. These people are political chameleons. They say whatever they need to say. Look at JD Vance, how many identities he has. Tucker Carlson, the same thing, political chameleon. He'll say whatever the hell he needs to say in order to keep getting clicks. You know, he was talking about freaking ghosts the other day, whatever's popping. He's like, yeah, let's go along with that.

21:01 Let's say that. Now they're all anti-Trump because that's the thing all of a sudden. Um, so I think that's what's happening here. I think it's, of course, it's way deeper than that, but it's very simple also at the same time, which is difficult to explain. But I think this guy is literally the stupidest man to ever sit in that office. He's so not qualified to do it. He wasn't qualified in 2016 and he's certainly not qualified now because he's losing his mind on top of his, on top of his original craziness. And he's so easily manipulated.

21:44 We all agree that Benjamin Netanyahu has him under his thumb. No matter what he says, he'll turn around and say whatever. What was that? That was me, or you? I think that was you. Jesus Christ, the hell was that? That was- You have a shot if something goes wrong. That's not me. Did we see the rest of the apartment? I don't think so. What was your favorite part? I don't have anything on my- I don't have anything either. Ashley, you got anything on your mic going through the- Nope, I'm muted. Okay. What is this? Wow. Okay, that's really weird.

22:24 Anyway, we were breaking down- The stream was crossed there, buddy. Don't cross the streams. That was Taylor Swift. She invited you personally? But that's what I think is going down here, man. And we tend to look over the incompetence because there has to be other reasons for this, right, you would think. And there is an argument to be made for that. But let's not forget about the massive incompetence here. Let's not forget it. The guy- Here we go again. Pizza, how many hours you'd have to sit at that beautiful dinner table? I don't know. I have no idea what that is. I don't either. It looks like it's a stream that's overlapping over ours.

23:07 And is it like the same on repeat? Yeah, I think it might- No idea. All right, it's gone now. Okay. Go ahead, Tony, what's up? Well, I agree with you on the incompetence part. My question, I think, as I look at what's happening in our policy, whatever the hell you want to call it, obviously there's no pushback inside the system itself. So, I mean, anything that's bad for America or it's going to hurt our standing or our sovereignty or the liberty of the individual would be pushed back on. So we have, whatever the president's doing and the administration is clearly, the boxes are all checked off and the deep state is on board.

23:48 So they're like, hey, we love this. This is great. You know, we're bankrupting ourselves. We're, you know, creating more opportunities for World War III. We like Armageddon. You know, all this, there's no pushback from the internal counter government, as Nixon called it. You know, the government, as Nixon said, the government cannot exist and cannot maintain power with the counter government working inside it. Well, we have multiple counter governments and even Tulsi Gabbard, who, you know, recently just got raided by the other intelligence agency. She was the DNI and she got raided by the DCI, the Director of Central Intelligence. And so she even came out and said, you know, we're pushing really hard and they're pushing really hard back.

24:32 She's talking about the counter government or the shadow government or the people that you don't see that you didn't elect, the permanent bureaucratic state. So I guess my point is, I do agree with you. I think Trump is, or what's happened with this whole experiment was to take nationalism, traditionalism, conservatism, and just make it a funhouse mirror versus bastardize it. It's just completely upended. It's a caricature, a hollow version of itself and grotesque. And so that's what we've made it. That's like, you know, for generations now, when we talk about economic nationalism, tariffs will be remembered as the thing that we use to weaponize our currency and not something used to build manufacturing.

25:19 Like all of this is being rewritten. So I agree with you that there's a level of malice and incompetence and all the things that go along with it. I mean, I even discussed, I mean, you have the leader of the so-called free world saying that he's gonna end civilizations. It's just unthinkable 10 years ago that we would even be having this conversation. So I agree with you. But I also want to point out that there is no, like there's no pushback from the internal state. The internal state loves this shit. I mean, they obviously love every policy that's coming out of there. So as long as there's war and there's, you know, we haven't done anything to roll back taxes or regulation. Anybody with a brain, like if you had any semblance of what America has actually has the potential to do, you would agree with the following statement of me.

26:08 I think if you were to deregulate, cut taxes and make it, you know, a surety, if you would provide certainty for markets that we could turn the whole thing around, but we don't do that. We don't do the things that would actually turn the country around. I agree, brother. So those policies, if we were to do those, there'd be pushback. And I don't think the deep state isn't pushing back. So we're doing everything that they want, or at least the majority of that policy is being carried out by the current trans, like whatever the ruling class that you can see. So just something to think about. There's no resistance.

26:48 We have a question for you, Tom, but I don't know what this is in reference to, because I might've lost it. So further explain, buddy. But he says, so is it unthinkable when Putin says the same, but I don't know if you know. It's not exactly the same thing. And, you know, the Soviet leaders have always had a, their vernacular, their lexicon has always leaned towards Armageddon, right? They've always leaned. I mean, I talked many times about, you know, Brezhnev and Khrushchev and Stalin. I mean, Khrushchev's probably the most, you know, historic example, the most, I think, boisterous of them all, you know, beating his shoe against the podium at the UN, saying, we're gonna bury you.

27:35 But I know there's some stuff that comes out of, you know, the Putin rhetoric, but it's mainly on like a defensive posture. As from what I understand, every quote I've ever seen when Putin goes apocalyptic, it's mainly because like NATO's at his doorstep or have bio labs in Ukraine and trying to get Ukraine into NATO and, you know, the threatening maneuvers and all of the things that we do post-Cold War and threats that we've made. Those are mostly like responses. Like if I guess we're gonna have to, again, it's something I, I'm not a Putin expert, but I would believe every time I've seen a quote of his that is apocalyptic, it's usually in response to something that we are doing and not something that he's taking on himself.

28:23 You know, like this is the whole thing with Iran. I mean, Iran's not a nuclear armed country and they're not a threat to the United States unless we make them one. And so that's a completely different set of circumstances, in my opinion. Except for the time when he says that I wanna be the one to reunite, you know, the motherland, completely unprovoked. You know, there is that, brother. You know, you and I tend to disagree on this point, but Vladimir Putin is a very, very, very evil individual, in my opinion. And I think he hides behind the reactionary, oh, NATO is the thing.

29:04 There's a lot more to that, in my opinion. Ashley, what are your thoughts on what we were speaking about previously? If we can, we spoke about a lot. So, if you're preparing on something that you want, go ahead. So yeah, so first of all, I would say that I also don't disagree with you. And I am definitely not an expert in any of these areas, Billy, but I do think that the incompetence piece is a real factor. And for me, it's mostly just trying to observe what is happening and think about it from these various angles and realizing that it's really complex in a lot of different ways. So, that's where I'm at, just trying to pay attention and pay attention to those talking points and any patterns that I can observe.

29:52 I also am not, I'm not an expert on Vladimir Putin or Russia, but I do think that, yeah, he is playing a part. He is a factor, Vladimir Putin, but I just don't fully understand exactly in what way. And I think for some of that, for me, I'm just gonna have to be when we have hindsight, when we have the benefit of hindsight on this. Right, I understand that a lot of it is that, right? And even then, right, it's still somebody's perspective or somebody's view on history, on events, right? Like factual events and why you think they went on unless there's some type of disclosure, which we probably will never get.

30:38 I mean, we will on some things, but NMQ, we'll stop there, he seems to think, or she seems to think that this is not incompetence, right? That everything is going as planned. And I can't argue with, I think, I guess I can argue on behalf of the competence, but I can't negate your point. This might be a- Is it weaponized? Is it weaponized incompetence is kind of what I'm leaning towards. Well, I think that's the best way to put it, right? That's a union of the two. The incompetence is being exploited for whatever reason, right? And I'm on board with that. I can co-sign that, finish up, Tom. Well, I mean, if you go back in historical reference, I mean, 1963, JFK sees the error of his ways and stuns the executive order to pull the advisors out of Vietnam.

31:28 He's pushing back against us going to a free-floating fiat currency. There was executive order on silver in the Federal Reserve. He creates his own notes from the treasury. He's pushing back on Israel getting a nuclear weapon. There's a lot of things, you know, we had, that was probably the last real American administration. I think there's probably inklings of it in the Nixon administration. Ironically, that's one of the reasons he was pushed out of office. No other presidents ever had to resign like that before. So there was a lot of pushback from the deep state. So I think whatever you're seeing, the window dressing is right or left. The continuity of structure or cog, the continuity of government is apparent in what's happening because the deep state doesn't eat.

32:13 It doesn't, you know, turn the rulers inside out. It doesn't do what it did to JFK. It doesn't do what it did to Nixon, to any president past then. I mean, there's policy differences. Like you pointed out, Joe Biden didn't want to do the Israel thing. He did the Russia thing, you know, he did that. And would that have happened under a second Trump term? Probably not that way. It might've happened something similar, but there was a want to by the power structure inside, the people you don't see. And it's hard to say, you know, it's hard to say exactly what they want, but there's no debates. There's no deep state debates on, there's no election. We don't know exactly what they want. We don't know what we're being used for, but clearly the current political structure does not serve the will or the interests of the American people.

33:00 I just know that. You know, I understand what you're saying. And no matter who gets in, something's gonna happen, right? Like they've been messing with the Middle East since I've been alive, right? Somalia is still getting bombed, right? And most people don't even know about that. You know, they tried to do stuff for Venezuela forever, right, after administration and administration. Cuba, all of these things, all of these things are in play. But I think it's also beneficial to point out that regardless, right, if, you know, there was a, you made the reference with Joe Biden and Russia, we can make those references all day long, right?

33:42 Kamala Harris, what would Kamala Harris have done in Iran or whatever? Like we have four years of what Biden did. We have eight years of what Obama did, you know? And if you wanna even talk about the neocons, we have a frame of reference to go back and see whatever they've done, the Bushes, right? And Clinton, who is an adopted neocon, right? Everybody, I mean, the Bush family says that that's their other brother, their son, whatever. Nobody's ever seen this. This has never happened before. Nobody was stupid enough to have the, not in my lifetime that the Strait of Hormuz was closed. You understand? Like this type of action that Donald Trump and this administration has taken is a clear escalation from anything that's been done previously.

34:33 And that needs to be pointed out. There's a lot of issues in the alt media where they're like, well, yeah, you know, I threw my support behind these guys and I said, you know, that they wouldn't do this, but they are doing it, but so would the other side. Everybody would do it. You know, it's kind of like a defense mechanism. You know, oh, they would do it too. It doesn't, you don't fucking know that one way or another. You know, we have a frame of reference that we can go back and argue, you know, that they did not do it then, but we don't know if they would or wouldn't do it now. So let's stop using that as a deflection point and talk about what's being done. These people are actively doing this thing right now in front of our faces.

35:15 It is the new world order. A legit new world order is trying to be framed out in front of us and the truth movement, the alternative media, when they get slapped in the face with something that's been presented to them year after year, decade after decade, decide to deny it. And this is what made me just like, just push away. I'm like, my God, what the hell have we been doing here? To the point that, and we should have this conversation off air, but I don't want to call ourselves alt media anymore. Yeah. What we do here on America Unplugged is no longer the alt media if it ever was. I agree. Okay.

35:55 Yeah, the entire space I think has become, it's either nihilistic that nothing matters and everything's fake and everybody's a shill and you can't ever be, you can't ever have a coherent thought and everybody, just a bunch of fags. So you have that, or you are some sort of sycophant for whatever alt-right thing is happening or you're following some crackerjack code. I agree with you. And it's become a clickbait stupid. I talked about that on my show Thursday. I don't even sure what place I have in it. I'm just trying to give best analysis. Your show is largely geopolitical and economic, which is dope. Yeah, I lean more towards that. I mean, that's something that, by the way, like what we're even talking about, like I'm already moved on from like where we even are politically because this administration is over.

36:44 The midterms are coming. I don't care who you are. Like there's going to be, and like we talked off air, like there's going to be a rest, not like the QAnon ones, not the deep state ones, not all that stuff that, you know, it's not the Doge arrest for the fraud. It's none of that. It's going to be like you were saying, Mike Johnson, the speaker is saying that, oh, that we lose the midterms, which you are, which you are, like it's going, even if things just, nothing changes, there's no groundswell of independence moving over and voting Democrat. And I know everybody's like, well, the elections aren't real. Okay, then let's just stop talking about everything. Let's just go home, you know. But people at the end of the day are going to move towards just something different.

37:28 And we always do that in America and it's going to sweep and there will be investigations. There'll be impeachment hearings. There'll be all this stuff and it'll be a cascade and people will start looking at what the head of the federal reserve, what Warsh is going to do. I mean, it's, eyes will turn into different directions. It will literally be over in the political sense for whatever this was. This is where MAGA goes to expire, okay. This is where we're headed. I'm already moved on. I'm looking at two years down the road. No, you're not wrong. Two years down the road is, man, in November, if things fall as they look like they're going to fall, you're going to see, you're going to see night of the long knives, man.

38:16 People are going to turn, they're already turning on Donald Trump, but I mean, you're going to see more pushback within quote unquote MAGA Republicans that are sitting in positions of power because they will have abandoned him. They're like, okay, this is it. We need to push forward on our own now or for our own brand. You're going to start seeing a lot of it. There'll still be people that are loyal to him and think that his word is going to count, but it's going to be interesting to see what goes down in November. Ashley, your thoughts, and then I'm going to play Mike Johnson. I am sorry, guys. I'm going to play Mike Johnson. I know this is treacherous to your ears and your eyes.

38:58 My apologies ahead of time. It's about a two minute clip. Anyway, go ahead, Ashley. Yeah, I think that that is one of the things to consider is that there's likely going to be a proverbial bloodbath when it comes to midterm elections. And you have to wonder, motivations, what was anyone thinking when they decided to attack a country that didn't do anything to us that was going to have global implications and immediately cause our gas prices here in the States to go up and immediately start affecting the standard of living for the people that are, you know, this is something that Franco talks about, the ladders, right? So if you're in the lower, the lower lowest income bracket, then immediately your standard of living is getting less good.

39:42 And that is continuing to climb up. So that happened right away. It's obviously very, people are not for this for the most part. People are also not a fan of at least the appearance of the United States making all of these decisions on behalf of their support for Israel and Benjamin Netanyahu. It is not popular for most people. They are tired of seeing that and whether like whatever true factors are really here, this is kind of the message that's getting out is that the United States is doing anything for Israel and they are doing whatever they want to do.

40:25 And we're getting the rhetoric that Benjamin Netanyahu is not radical enough for the other political parties in Israel that he is going to be in jail if he's not doing what he's doing. Who knows? Like there's so much here, I would say that is a very unpopular situation that has set up and there is no way that you can cause people's gas prices to go up, that you can continuously put the squeeze on the American people leading into midterms and not have a huge fallout for that, for sure. Let's see, man. Let's see what develops. All right, let's play this piece of filth real quick.

41:06 The DSA, the Democrat Socialists of America, this sounds so innocuous, doesn't it? No, it doesn't. Don't say that. This is their platform. Listen, this is actually quotes from their platform that they published, I think, about a day or two ago. You can find this on the internet. Okay, here's just a sample of what they're about. They put this on paper. They're saying the quiet things out loud. Abolish the electoral college, replace the two-party system with a multi-party democracy, expand the House of Representatives, implement proportional representation and rank choice voting in all elections. Well, establish public ownership of the largest corporations and essential industries to ensure democratic control and accountability to the people.

41:51 Abolish ICE and grant amnesty for all. End sanctions on Cuba, Venezuela, and Iran. Free Palestine, quote, free Palestine with Jerusalem as its capital. End all military and economic aid to Israel, prosecute U.S. and Israeli leaders responsible for the genocide in Gaza. Abolish the carceral state, listen, quote, redirect police and prison funding to public services as steps towards abolishing the carceral forces of the capitalist state. Y'all, it goes on and on and on. Defund the Department of War, replace the president and the Supreme Court with an executive and judiciary chosen and subordinate to Congress, which they're hoping to take over.

42:39 And the last one is abolish the Senate. Now, some of you may agree with that, but just leave that one there. Okay. It's fine, I'm kidding. I love my colleagues over there. There's a new Gallup and NBC poll came out I think four days ago. Listen to this. Only 29% of Democrat voters now say they are proud to be American. Over half now say they want to live in another country. And go, go, go. We can't deport that man. So let me tell you, this is a very sobering, let's see how much time I have.

43:22 Oh dear, three minutes. Okay, look, I am very bullish about the midterms. Let me just tell you right now, as a leader of this little army in the house, we are ready for this fight. We're ready for this fight. We're called for it. I think that was the wrong clip. He said it right after that, but whatever, I'll look for it. Regardless, he said a lot of things there. I don't know where he was getting a lot of this stuff from. And I don't doubt that some of it is what these people are aiming to do or trying to do beyond that. I want to get the point where he says, we're all going to jail, they're going to do stuff to us. I think that was right after that.

44:03 But fuck ICE. I'd abolish ICE ASAP. Fuck out of here. It's unconstitutional in the first place. If you guys want to make the argument about the freaking Department of Education, then ICE and the Department of Homeland Security should not exist. It's a new construct after 9-11. So fuck it. Let's do it. It could be gone for me for all I care. I don't know, man. Thoughts real quick. Not the right clip, but whatever. He said quite a bit there. Well, as he was reading off the list by the socialist, I was leaning in a little bit like, go on. Tell me more about your plan to disrupt the corrupt power structure.

44:46 I mean, obviously everything that has happened in the last 70 plus years has been an abject failure. I mean, our government, I mean, if you look at where I live now, I'll just give you an example. Cause I ran for Congress here in the fourth district of Texas this used to be controlled. This was the fourth district was the home of Sam Rayburn. Sam Rayburn was the longest serving speaker of the house as a Democrat. And he lived in Bonham, Texas. I had a house there when I got back from serving in Iraq. And if you look at his life and I read biographies on Sam Rayburn, he wouldn't take donations from anyone over $250. And when he died, this guy was offered the vice presidency under when Roosevelt ran for his fourth term or third term.

45:34 He was offered the presidency or the vice presidency. He turned that down. He was offered so much power, but he's third in line for the presidency. I mean, even after the 25th amendment. So it had a lot of power, right? He died and he had all of his savings and everything totaled up to $25,000. That's it. And he still had in his house that he had, there's a museum there. It's like a tiny museum. And he has the one item that he was able to finally afford a Cadillac. He wanted a Cadillac. He's had one car. And so it's just funny. Like we go from that to somebody like Mike Johnson, who you don't even know who these people are.

46:14 I mean, I assume somebody that looks like Mike Johnson is like the whole epitome of like weak men create hard times kind of thing. Like the wheel, the turning wheel, or his look to me is like somebody you pass on your way to like an internment camp when he's like filing out, like doing, like the banality of evil, like chopping down little things on his typewriter. You know, like that's the kind of guy that this weak men create hard times. There is nothing, there's no substance behind him. There's no great story he's just bought and paid for. And that's what Congress is now. So I'd love a disruption. I actually think that I'll throw this idea out there. I'm all about, you know, Andrew Jackson changed the system in America.

46:56 He was the first president, he's the seventh president. He was the first president ever elected by popular vote. Everything else before that, from Washington to John Quincy Adams was by Congress. I think we should go back to that. And I think we should expand Congress to represent constitutionally how it's supposed to be about 35,000, not 800,000. So I think we should have a congressman for about 35,000 Americans or so constitutionally, and those should elect the president. I think we should get away, do away with the national vote in the way that we've done things, because it's so corrupt. And we're getting into like the trillion dollar range and all this garbage is so insane for elections. It doesn't really, I mean, because you don't, I think there needs to be more oversight.

47:38 I think there ought to be more closer representation to the people. Obviously I'm just dreaming here. But when, if we're not going to do the things that are actually going to help Americans, like have a free market with certainty and invite the world to build things here and make things here and bring capital, then we'll have to have some sort of a socialistic thing in place. So the country will catch on fire. I mean, read history. It never works when there's a systole and dystole, when there's a concentration of wealth too high, it breeds revolution either which way. Wow.

48:18 Tony Arterburn. Sorry about that. Sorry, I had to go a little deep. That was, I mean, if you go any deeper, people might miss you. Yeah, that was good. That was perfect. Ashley, your thoughts before we play this clip and then we're getting up out of here. Well, I don't really know how I could follow that up. I will say that, yes, some of the talking points I agree with, like ending foreign funding for wars and to stop funding genocide. Yes, I 100% agree with that. And I would be thrilled if these people were ever held to account because they deserve it for their crimes against us and the world.

48:59 100. I agree with that too. And I think most of the people listening here, whether they agree or disagree with the points put out, I think most of the people agree that they don't want war. I think that's fair of me to assume. I think I found the clip. Let's see Mike Johnson. Come on. And now it won't play. It's just not meant to be. It's not meant to be. I can read it though. Hold on, let me see. Come on, play. It won't do it. Let me refresh it. Maybe that'll make a difference. Tony, keep the people entertained. Tell a joke. Oh, well, you put me on the spot like that.

49:41 Sorry, sorry. Could I interrupt really quick? Tony, think about it. And I just wanted to say, this is the one thing that I do think a lot of us, no matter where we're at on the political paradigm, would support that because people are tired. They're tired of war. The default state of the American people is to be anti-war, or at least it used to be. And this was why the government had to make such a huge propaganda push leading into World War I to get the consent of the people. This is when we had the four minute men and the junior four minute men and the identification of excellent orators because people didn't want it. And I think they still don't.

50:22 They don't. Without them being manipulated in order to manufacture that consent. I think that's probably universal worldwide. Right. We are run worldwide, not only by PDF files, we're on YouTube, but we're run by psychopaths, which is kind of the same thing. I mean, it's pretty much, but the most Machiavellian sociopathic in human nature with our current system, the way that it is, rise to the top. It's not about meritocracy. If you look at our politicians, what have they done? Well, they're just willing to sell their mother for a dollar. You know, I think it was somebody that, I think it was Lord George that said about Winston Churchill that he would make a drum of his own mother's skin to sound his own praises.

51:08 Good Lord. Let me try this. All right, it's not playing, so I'm gonna have to read it to you. Okay, this is what he said. You read it in a weaselly Israeli first voice. I can't even pretend. If we lose the midterms, how's that? If we lose the midterms, if these, oh, you know who would do an excellent job at it? Alex Jones would go, uh-huh, mm. I mean, if we lose the midterms, mm, mm, listen to it. You gotta get those, get that gravelly in there. If we lose the midterms, that's my Alex Jones impression. These Democrats will turn every committee of Congress into an investigative body, and they'll go after the president's family, check for that, the cabinet, check for that, his donors, friends, check for that, half of you in this room, check for that, will be targeted.

52:02 I run the protection program. I will take care of you. No, you won't. No, you won't. You could barely take care of yourself. You're not gonna be able to take care of anyone. Now, I am, I don't even wanna say cautiously optimistic that this will happen. I don't know if it will if these people get into power. More of the same is what we might get, but if this happens, I am all for it. Investigate all of them, all of them. I want them all investigated, 100%, all of these corrupt sons of bitches that made billions, not millions, billions off of our backs and off of our mental state.

52:48 They hijacked our cognitive liberty. Fuck them for that. All right, Tony Arterburn, your thoughts, and then I'm gonna go to Ashley. She's gonna close it out, and we're getting up out of here. Go ahead. Well, you mentioned, I think I'll fair about Mondami and some of his people that he has endorsed, and there's a growing underlying movement in this country, probably funded by the top also. I mean, that's what they like to do, but ideas have failed. The gods of modern conservatism failed, not because conservatism or traditionalism was wrong. It was the package, the way that they did it. I think there's a fruit of a poisonous tree. You look at somebody like Mike Johnson, and you realize that his, whatever rhetoric about America first or fiscal responsibility always comes second to whatever their foreign policy or geopolitical goals are, or their servants to most multinational corporations and themselves.

53:40 I mean, this isn't that hard to figure out. It's not that the majority of ideas on the right were bad. It's just that when implemented by the servants of the people, they are bastardized and misused, and so that's where we are, and those ideas failed. The other end of the spectrum is very attractive, so we have to watch that very closely, what is actually pushed out there, and what people will go for, but I think the future is going to be decentralized in so many ways politically, whatever that list of things, even the multi-party system, I think will probably come to America. Less and less will be the two-party system.

54:22 I think they want to hold that together as long as they can, because it gives you the illusion of choice, the illusion of freedom, and there's nobody quite as enslaved as the person who thinks they're free when they're not. You're absolutely right, by the way. That's the top form of slavery, when you think you're free. You're not coming back from that, or good luck, you know? I want to give a big shout out to Rob for Trump in the Rumble chat. I just tuned into the Rumble chat, what is going on? He has changed his name to Rob, not for Trump. I fucking love it, Rob, and Rob has given me shit for a long time.

55:07 I don't know who you are, Rob, but kudos to you, all right? Happy July 4th, my guy. Let's celebrate America's independence, not only from the British and becoming a country that everybody looked up to, but our independence from the parasites that have taken over in the last few years, all right? I love it. Rob, not for fucking Trump, fantastic. Tony Arterburn, the wisest of all the wolves. Hold on, did I get Ashley's point? You didn't get, we skipped over Ashley, which is gonna be the most enlightened. We have to talk to Ashley. What's going on, Ash? Well, I just, I do agree with that, right?

55:47 I think that there is, and we've talked about some of the excellent videos of people coming to the United States and visiting and loving it here, right? So I feel like that is, that's really positive. There's good stuff out there. People have been coming to the United States, they've been treated well, and I think some unity has been created there. I think some excitement for the American experiment has been created, and I think that's a good thing. So I do think that we are headed for some kind of shift. It certainly feels revelatory at times, right? So I think that there is some kind of reckoning, whether how manufactured that may be, I'm not sure.

56:30 But yeah, I think we're looking forward to seeing the Trump era be over. And will it be better? I don't know, we'll just have to see at that time. But anyway, happy 4th of July. Happy 4th, fantastic show, ladies and gentlemen. Bronx snopper, he's gonna bring the wood chipper, I'm down, I'm down with it. Jackson T. Barrett was talking about Pizzagate and Comet, ping pong, I've been there. There's nothing going on there, as far as I know. Pizza's not so good, but the, what is it? The macaroni and cheese fried, whatever the hell they call them, those are pretty good, get those.

57:14 Pizza, subpar. All right, that is it. I'll shout out the chat, I'm gonna let Tony go, because I know Tony has to go. If Ashley wants to hang with me while I shout out the chat, that's fine, it's only gonna take 10 minutes. And then she has to go do Nights of the Storm. Tony Arterburn, the wisest of all the wolves. What's going on, sir? Thank you. Tony.gold, my website, Tony.gold, you can find me there. Arterburn Radio Transmission. Did we get any new reviews? No. I can't believe it. Folks, you would give up your right to free speech on America Unplugged, you just gotta give us a five-star review. It was a storm of reviews, and now they've stopped. I can't believe it. I know, if you're hearing our voice, do something.

57:55 Even a quote, you wanna hear something, literally, you can type it, and you have divine-like powers. We will regurgitate, like a puppet. Yeah, you could say, Billy, you're a dumbass, and I will say, Billy, you're a dumbass. Or, Billy, I'm a dumbass. Whatever you want me to say, I'll say it. Five-star review. Billy, tell Tony you love him. No. In a romantic way. Out of the question like that. If you wanna see that, you gotta go to onlywolves.com and Only Wolves. That's right. You have to pay extra for that. That's not free. Okay, Ashley, tell the people where they can find you. Yep, they can find me at my show, Think, Change, Repeat, on Rumble and YouTube for the moment.

58:38 Gonna try to get to Podcatchers later, and at Nights of the Storm, 2 p.m. every Saturday. All right, fantastic. Robin is in the chat. How you doing, Robin? Nicholas is in the chat. What's going on? NMQ8HM is in the chat. My boy, Kenny Powers. Don't tell me Zami Zayn became champion, because I missed it if he did. I'm totally against that. I know it's gonna happen at some point. Grand Theft Auto VI is coming out in November, and once that happens, you're not gonna see me for three months. I'm just not going to be around. If you wanna see me, go see me at GTA VI. If you play, let me know. Give me your gamer tag, and we can do that. That's gonna be freaking great. We should do an America Unplugged stream on Grand Theft Auto VI.

59:20 Tony, you would love it. It would be fantastic. Who else do we have here? Marco is in the chat. How are you, Bronkstopper? What's going on? Thanks for being here. Ron Helton. Jackson T. Barrett. Mr. Consistent, how are you, sir? What's going on? We had a couple of others. I saw Jeannie Poole in the chat. I saw Peter Seekosh in the chat. Gar Goldsmith, what's going on? He's always listening. I didn't see him in the chat, but I know he was listening. Karen Carpenter, what is going on? Greetings and blessings to you. Think I said what's up to Robin already, but if I haven't, what's going on? Bebe, or Bebe, I don't know how you want me to pronounce it. You know, that was Nixon's friend. It was a real estate developer. Nixon would go down.

1:00:02 You just think, Bebe was Nixon's best friend, so I'm glad he's still sticking him from beyond the grave. Thank you, Bebe Rubonzo. We are broadcasting in Hades right now. Lamb's Grace. That's really not that far from the truth. Live from hell. The broadcast, the official broadcast of Bebop. Right, freaking, who else? What did I say? I said somebody else was there. I don't want to miss him. Lamb's Grace, how are you, Lamb's Grace? Liz the Iron Maiden, if you're still listening, blessings to you all the way across the pond. Let me go over to, oh, hold on. TCCT, I don't even know what this is. Y2Y, but they've been here before.

1:00:44 They actually agreed with me on something today. Typically, they're just making fun of me. What's up, how are you? Let's see, let me go over to Rumble and say what's up to my people in the Rumble chat. SMU asking what's going on. Rob, not for Trump, gets another shout out. I didn't feel dirty going to the Rumble chat. I just, didn't we figure out a way to have this stream on StreamYard? It happened for a little bit and then it went away. We got to do that again so I could have the- Somewhat, yeah. If you have the technical expertise, let us know again. I forgot how to do it. We'll figure it out. Truth Refugee, burn it down.

1:01:24 We're going to do that in like a minute. So stick around to help us light the fire. What's up? Do not obey in the chat. Nostradamus, hey, tell me something. Listen, I'm tired of working. I'm tired of it. I got two jobs, man. Give me the lottery numbers. I promise I will cut you in. I know it's against the laws of the universe for you to use your powers for your own benefit. But listen, if I transferred over to you, it might negate some of this. I can't promise this. There might be a world of hurt coming to you, but hook me up anyway. I need those numbers, and I need them ASAP. Okay, who else do we have?

1:02:06 All right, we do Misfit, 1904. I think I know who that is. Dad, die, what's going on? No voter ID is in the chat. Prof138, Birdhouse Blues, what's going on? The Oracle of Truth is in the chat. How are you? Harps from Fictional Australia is here. How are you? And I think that's it. I mean, I can keep going up. Maybe I'll find somebody new, but if I missed you this week, I'll catch you next week, Lord willing. Everybody be good. Tony, we gonna burn it down? I think so. Night of the Storm, go tune in tonight to the Storm. Let's burn it down. Done. Bye.

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