#231 America Unplugged: Knicks Euphoria, World Cup Unity & the Iran Deal

0:00 Hidden History, and Survival of the Richest. Host of the Donald Jeffries Show, Billy Ray Valentine. Host of the Infinite Fringe Podcast, Researcher, Truth Seeker, from the Bronx, New York. Tony Arterburn, Radio Host, Combat Veteran, Precious Metals Analyst, and Alt-Historian. Together, they take on the headlines of the week, decode the disinformation, and plow through the mainstream propaganda. Unauthorized, unscripted, and un-intimidated, this is America Unplugged.

0:42 What's going on? Hello, everyone. Welcome back to America Unplugged, The War on Reality Report. My name is Billy Ray Valentine, and I'm here with the usual suspects, Mr. Tony Arterburn. How are you, sir? The wisest of all the wolves. Doing good. Good to see you. Good to see Don. I've decided that I have a price. For $300 billion, I won't build a nuclear weapon either. I promise. Really? Let's make this happen. I'm ready to give up that. I will retain the right to do peaceful uranium enrichment, though. For $300 billion, I will, for 60 days, say that maybe I won't enrich uranium.

1:26 But after that, all bets are off. What a disaster. Mr. Don Jeffries, how are you, sir? The legendary. What's going on? Good to see you guys. Peter C. Koch in the chat asked me what I had for breakfast. On the weekends, I have all-natural Pop-Tarts. You can get them at Trader Joe's. And cereal during the week. I wish I could ... Peter is a gourmet chef. If you guys ever see the pictures, he makes some great breakfast. I'm too bad he's on the other coast, but maybe you can mail me one or something. What's up, Pete? How you doing? Nobody's asking me what I had for breakfast, but I'm going to tell you anyway. Four hard-boiled eggs. That's what I had.

2:07 That's the way it's rolling over here in the Bronx. Hey, Tony Arterburn, the New York Knicks are the champions of the world. They are the champions of the NBA. They hadn't won a title in my lifetime. For many reasons, it's been a fantastic week for me. Two weeks. Incredible two weeks. For a lot of reasons. There was a realization, and I spoke to you about it behind the scenes. We're going to talk about Iran and all of that, for sure. There was a little bit of a conversation that I had with Tony while we were waiting for Don to hop on. I just want to say to everybody listening, and everybody listening after the fact, everybody that's live, and everybody that's going to listen on a podcast, and some of the people that email me, check your algorithm.

3:02 Check what it is you're being fed, really. Because if you want to find negativity, and you want to gravitate towards negativity, you're going to get negativity. You're going to get plenty of it. It's going to reinforce whatever your worldview is. You're going to think that's all there is to it. We are having an absolute blast here in NYC. Remember the population here, and how many millions and millions of people live here. Things are going to go down. Things are going to happen. We're talking about scale here. They were on social media talking about the unruly characters that did crazy stuff during the parade and during game five.

3:49 I was out there during game five. I was out there with my family, with my kid. My eldest was on his own doing something in the city as well. If I felt there was any type of danger, I wouldn't put my kids in that type of danger. We were all out there with millions of people, and the energy in the air, and the connection between everybody that was there, the happiness, the euphoria, that doesn't come along. It's not something you can experience just any day.

4:30 People talk a lot of crap about sports, and I get it, but sports will do that. Sports will bring people together. That's the one thing that I think a lot of the alternative media misses. What a victory. What does it care? It's just sports. It's just basketball. It's more than that. It's more than that when a bunch of people can get together and have a common experience and be joyful as a result. It's not something that we're mourning. It's not something that we're afraid of. It's not 9-11. It's not COVID. It's not a blackout. It's happiness, and everybody was everybody's friend still to this day right now. Everybody's everybody's friend.

5:11 Also, the World Cup is going on, and everybody's losing their mind in Times Square, having a good time. All of these people that are coming to America, I was telling Tony, all the Europeans that are coming to America are like, wow, America is amazing, and the people are amazing, and we love it here, and this is nothing like we've been told. This is nothing like what's been presented to us, and we don't want this to go away. Quite frankly, I don't either, and this is happening around the world with the World Cup. Well, not around the world. I'm assuming, but in the three countries that are hosting the World Cup here, it's Canada, the United States, and Mexico.

5:55 There's a lot of that going on. The energy that was created, the moment that was created in New York when the Knicks won Game 5 was unmatched, and I wish everyone could engage in that experience that at some point in their life, the happiness that I got from it that I will never forget in my entire life was seeing my kid light up like a Christmas tree. At the moment when the Knicks actually won, and it was an incredible game, it came down to the wire, and when the Knicks won, everybody went ballistic, but I turned to my son.

6:42 I wanted to see my son's reaction because he was the one that drove me into it. He got me back into the NBA because he watches, and he's like, dad, come watch with me. Any opportunity that I get to spend time with my son and do something with my son, I'm going to take it because that doesn't last forever either. So I cherish those moments, and the Knicks were able to provide a moment like that for me. I will never forget it. He was so happy, and we were jumping up and down like two kids. One of my best friends in life was there acting crazy. My sister flew in from San Francisco to see the Knicks win.

7:22 It is important to people. It changes lives. It reminds people of their fathers and their mothers that passed away that were giant Knick fans that didn't get to see this. So there's so much more involved, but it really sparked in my mind people that want to find a problem with it are going to find a problem with it. Look at the larger picture instead of getting stuck into that little corner of the world that you're stuck in and that continue to feed you what you want to know, what you want to feel. Go out of it. Step out of it, even if it proves you wrong.

8:03 There's nothing wrong with being proven wrong. It's beautiful when you're proven wrong in a good way. It's fantastic. That's what we want. So, shouts to the New York Knicks, Knicks in five, New York City, incredible, incredible. No place like it in the world. All the haters, it's not many of you left in, you know, but all the haters here in the alt-media, man, stop the nonsense. Okay. Stop. All right. It was incredible. Tony, you had some thoughts on what's going on with the World Cup, you know, and in Mexico, South Korea's over there, and they're like brothers and sisters jumping around, feeding off of each other's culture, respecting each other, loving each other, literally love, you know, they're like, oh my God, to the point that the Korean government wrote a letter to Mexico telling them how welcome they felt and how awesome it was.

8:59 You know, because that's what we want around the world. All this shit that we've been fed, all this MAGA nonsense, you know, it's bullshit. People want to be together. People want to love one another. People want to respect each other's cultures and learn from each other's cultures. People want that, you know, and I think that's one of the biggest issues with people hating New York is the multiculturalism and what it represents. It's a threat to other people that don't know any better. It's beautiful, but people want it around the world. Europe loves America now, and it gave me hope. It gives me hope, you know, because I'm sitting there, I'm like, how do we ever bounce back from this? How do we bounce back by being us?

9:42 You know, and when people come over here, we show them what America is all about, the good stuff, you know, and it's mostly good stuff, you know, and Europe is experiencing that now, and that's fantastic. I love it. What's up, Tom? Well, the opposite of that would be true, too, like if you take everyday Americans that would normally buy into whatever, you know, media propaganda about war or foreign policy or have some knee-jerk reaction to things, if you, like my experience, if you take them and put them in countries that we just bomb offhand, we'd probably stop doing that because you would see the other side as people and see their culture, and you would have a different internal response to whatever's going on in your newsfeed, and that's interesting.

10:25 It's called a feed for a reason, like you feed cattle, right? You just put the feed out, people go to it, and you feed that algorithm, right? The algorithm shows you a lot of what you already expect to see, like you just mentioned that. We get a lot of our view about the world through the lens of social media and what's being presented to us, but it's like that Bill Hicks joke about, he's watching CNN, you know, this is the 90s, early 90s, he's watching CNN all day, and he's like, I'm terrified, there's just, I mean, calamities and murder and mayhem and natural disasters, and then he just opens the window and looks outside and it's nice and sunny. It's not what the TV says, but you know, it's funny, a lot of those things too perpetuate themselves.

11:09 Remember the summer of love in 2020 during COVID-1984, and we got nudged like the Joker talked about in The Dark Knight, you know, you just got to give it a little push, and we would have these unorganic riots, I think, completely staged, or they'd fly people in, and then it perpetuated itself. Like it came to Dallas, even my family's convenience store, we had to go down there with shotguns and defend it, like in the middle of downtown Dallas, because it was out of control, there wasn't any way to control the crowd. That wouldn't have happened if it wasn't happening in other places. So a lot of that stuff is just completely manufactured, you know. Most of the time, people just want to have community, they want to celebrate their favorite sports teams, they want to just raise their family or have a sense of peace.

11:56 Nobody wants to have, you know, walking around with a sense of foreboding, or like, you know, that you're being antagonized, or you're on the defensive, nobody really wants that. We want to have these shared experiences. And it's funny, you know, they had the UFC thing at the White House, you know, whatever that was called, and one of the people that got in trouble was Ozzy Osbourne's son, Jack Osbourne. And he went there to watch the fight, and it became a political thing. And then he just said, it's a fucking match, you know, like, I'm just gonna go watch it. We can't hardly break out of that box anymore, everything's put into some sort of category.

12:38 But I'm glad that there's events like, you know, in your neck of the woods, where you've got, you know, a long standing tradition and people want to see somebody. I think that's cool. And I think that's good for community. And I think it's good what's happening with the World Cup and people visiting here. And it just shows to me, America wasn't supposed to be where we are right now. And it's been in an artificial decline for the past 50 years on purpose. There is a lot of fight left in America, we can still make things, we still have a spirit of can-do. And I think just, you know, generations have melded together to make our current society, which isn't terrible.

13:19 It has a lot of good left in it. And we should have a better standing in the world. You know, you and I talked offline about soft power. You know, everybody, the West of the world sees our idiots that use our military for multinational corporations or World Economic Forum lizards, like, we don't use it for the American people. Like, our military is not used for that. It's not an extension of the American people. The American empire is not us, rest of the world, sorry. I mean, and your media feeds you that we're just like some sort of jingoistic, you know, foreign hating people that are backwards. And that's just not true.

14:01 America is built for something completely different than what is being presented on the world stage right now. And so I think that harkens to something I talk about, which is the artificial decline. You know, the pawning of America's soul, like, you know, even Cal Coolidge said that the business of America is business. And we should be in that. We should have a lot more going on here at home, a lot more things being exported, a lot more things being set up around the world. I mean, the ambassadors to the United States should be our businesses and our entrepreneurial reach and what we can make and, you know, things that make lives better for other people.

14:41 I mean, Kennedy and I know Don can speak to this, but John F. Kennedy was part of the Peace Corps, like that was his mission. It was soft power and influence. And we don't have enough of that. You know, the world sees our military, it sees our our neocon establishment in Washington, and it certainly sees some of the worst parts of our culture. But it doesn't visit enough. You know, it doesn't really have the opportunity to get here. And we don't have the best ambassadors. So, you know, I think the world as a as a whole, I think we all misunderstand each other. And it's a good idea to have cultural exchange. I think we all misunderstand each other for and a lot of us don't.

15:22 But I mean, you know, there's a lot of people that do. But I think it's by design in particular now. You know, I think it's easier for them to control the narrative now than it ever was, because they feed you what you want to see or whatever you concentrate on. Right. You stare at something for three minutes or I mean, for three seconds, you're going to get a ton of it afterwards. You know, it's just going to keep coming and coming. So it's like, oh, my God, what's going on over there? You're going to keep concentrating on that. That's what they're going to continue to give you. A lot of people in the chat resonate with it. And that's dope. You know, I'm very happy to see that. It's been an incredible, an incredible few weeks, man. And it's going to continue to be that way.

16:03 And hopefully we can we can take that momentum and ride it. I have a lot of hope now that we can bounce back. And also, sure, you know, the manufacturing and all the stuff we can do here in America, but also our exports need to be highlighted. And I don't think they are in particular by by the alt media, you know, our culture, you know, our our music, you know, our our sports. These are worldwide phenomena. Right. That my sister was in France a month ago, I think, and she was like, everything there is New York and L.A. Everything there is they have, you know, New York sports jerseys and L.A.

16:44 sports jerseys is what people like. That's what people want. And that's that's the export. There is also that, you know, so there's many ways to skin a cat. And I think we still have a shot. We will we be. The economic world power forever, no. But can we can we stay relevant? Absolutely. You know, so I think that that's what we should we should shoot for being the world, the world power forever. I'm down with that, you know, but but a peaceful one, a righteous one, you know, one that spreads good around the world, and we never quite got there, you know, but we're on a rapid decline right now.

17:29 But but this gives me hope that maybe we can. Yeah, we isolated ourselves. And I know Donald want to talk about this, but we weaponize the dollar. We have sanctions on, you know, 36 different countries. You know, we use our military heavy handedly. We've become like a drunk cop, night sticking people, you know, like policemen of the world. America has a bad rap because of our leadership, but our people are generally completely the opposite. Right. And deserve a better future than what we've been presented. Totally agree. Don Jeffries, what's up? Well, I hope everybody's speaking of the World Cup. My Iranian dentist. Now I go to an Iranian dentist and we're on the same wavelength.

18:10 So lots of great conversations. And so he was talking about the World Cup when they're operate, when they're doing work in your mouth, Don. Yeah, well, even if he wasn't, he knows I'm you know, we're we're compadres. But yeah, when he's he was he's all in the World Cup and everything. And he said, you got to watch Friday, June 26th, 11 p.m. You're going to see Iran versus Egypt in Seattle, Washington. And they're forcing those angry Muslims to wear the LBGTBQ patches. It's got to be must see TV. Somebody is going to get upset. They're going to tear the patches off something. Maybe some angry Muslims will flood the field.

18:52 I'm hoping something great happens. I can't believe it's just going to be a peaceful game because to make them play with those patches that they. That's absolutely, you know, that's that would be like making, you know, Israel wearing swastikas or something. I mean, they don't want to do it. Egypt versus Egypt and Iran to, you know, to, you know, countries that can't stand the LBGT. This is ridiculous. So that's going to be interesting. I need to start watching the World Cup. I haven't been watching it as much. I usually do. You know, my son played travel soccer for a long time, so I coached a lot. So I started getting into it. It's really an interesting phenomenon to watch because people were. I don't know why my people in Ireland didn't make it.

19:35 I don't know how they didn't make it, but somehow they didn't. So I don't know who I'll root for. Hard to root for the USA in anything. But anyway, I understand what you're saying about sports. And when the Nationals won the World Series here 2019, that was obviously first time in my life, a Washington baseball team has won some. So I thought of my father who had seasons tickets for the Senators back in the day and got to see the 1924 World Series when as a little kid he was there. So these things are connected. Sports have memories. And, you know, you pass it on down to children. I remember 1978 when the the Bullets, not the Wizards, as they call them, the Bullets won the NBA championship.

20:16 I remember a bunch of us stupid drunk guys went out to meet them at the airport. I don't know why. It's just dumb just to, you know, to cheer with a bunch of other people. Everybody's honking their horns and stuff. We didn't tear down anything, though. We didn't blow up a school bus. We didn't destroy any cars. We just were drunk and yelling and stuff. But that's what sports does. You know, it does. It can have a good impact on it. But I do have to say that I agree with some of the people in the chat and my sports book will show that I do believe sports are rigged, at least most of them. And so I will have all that all that stuff and more in my book. And there will be no publishers lining up to publish it, I'm sure.

20:57 But it'll be out there. So hopefully it's coming along slowly, but surely. And I see that Grit Slayer says you're a Nationals hater. You hate the Nationals, Billy Ray. Why would you hate the Nationals? I don't hate the Nationals. I went to the National Stadium the other day. I'm a fan of baseball. I'm a Yankee fan. I'm from New York. I am from the Bronx. You can't expect anything else of me. But no, I don't. Right. The Nationals. Yeah. So that's I I'm a sports has been, as I said, I'm still playing fantasy football. I think it's all rigged. I want another. But I'm still playing fantasy football. So, you know, so it's like a heroin addiction, just like politics is.

21:38 Why am I why am I? Oh, wow. Tony has his Yankee hat handy. His gift from from Billy. We bought this for me right outside of ground zero. That's right. A little. That's right. That's a little. That's what Griffin should be doing. And I forgot who Griffin was. That's what you should be doing. Go, go buy yourself a Yankee cap. Go do something productive. OK, instead of dwelling on the Nationals, go buy yourself a Yankee cap. You know, that's what's up. How you doing? Appreciate you. I had something to say, and it's gone because of the Capitals comment. It left my mind. Maybe it'll come back at some point. Regardless, very happy to see all of this stuff happening.

22:20 Oh, yeah. Got it. I worked in sports for many, many years. No evidence that I saw that it was rigged. So so there's there's that aspect of things. You'll have to read my book, Hillary. Yeah, I think you and I will have a lively discussion on that. Oh, yeah. I'd love to. I'd love to to read it. What's up to Peter Seacosh? How you doing, sir? But yeah, I worked there for for a long time. And and let's say for argument's sake, let's say it is scripted. Right. You guys. Well, people go to the movies all the time. Right. And so spend your disbelief and you like or you read books.

23:02 Maybe you don't you don't go to the movies. You read books that are totally fiction. Right. Right. And it takes you on a ride. Yeah. I watched the WWE. I know it's completely scripted. I don't watch it so much anymore, but I watch professional wrestling still, you know. Well, that's what people that's what people have said, that if even if we could prove that it was fixed, it wouldn't matter because it's not illegal. Right. They the NFL, they all say we're entertainment. The Express written, you know, they used to have that blur before every game. So there they don't claim that they're not fixing the games. They don't claim that there. So if you did and they've had several players now, I'll have the quotes from the books in there.

23:43 And every every time they say my my boy, Arian Foster, who is the star of my fantasy football team for many years, he came out and said something about it and just and several other lesser end players did. And like the next day, the world comes down and they all just joking. You know, they all say, you know, but they say it a lot to be joking. So, you know, Arian Foster, you know, said something. We get the we get the script at the beginning of the season or something. I don't know if that's true. But I think they can just I think they can use the officials to tweak the outcomes of football and basketball and other sports. I don't know how you fix them. Dan Piper, is that true? Jesus Christ. Imagine that. Oh, well, they didn't set. They didn't set that up, did they? Oh, crap.

24:24 Hey, listen, our 250th anniversary. Wow. The US team looks good, too. They're looking good right now. We smacked up. It was Australia yesterday, you know, that we beat the trash out of. And then Paraguay got it, too. You know, if they do this to to an established team, we're like one of the powerhouses, man. Let me tell you, I root for the US because I am American. But but I also root for other countries. Honduras, of course, did not make the World Cup. Not very good, but they will be at some point. It happens. It happens. It happens. But Iran didn't make the World Cup.

25:04 And we will talk a little bit about this deal. Now, Iran's in the World Cup. They're playing this Friday. Yeah, I said they did. They did. Well, they said unless I didn't articulate it properly, but they did make the World Cup. Also, I looked up that. Do they have to wear LGBTQ patches? And that doesn't seem to be true. They don't have to. Well, it's my Iranian dentist claim. Let's see. Let's see what develops. Well, then the game won't be half as interesting in a brawl on television. Let's see what develops. But. You know, they're calling it and this is across. Platforms, this is on left leaning platforms, on right leaning platforms, everybody is saying that this is a.

25:48 A defeat like a surrender, that's what that's how they're painting this. I'm not taking any sides. I mean, you know what my side is, but regardless, this is what they're saying in the media, that this is a surrender on behalf of the United States to Iran. Tony is nodding his head. Tony, what's up? Well, I just want to say before we start this, I mean, I'm just glad we have politics because politics is real in this country and there's no way around it. I mean, it represents all of us and it's fair. I'm just really glad we have that on our two hundred and fifty. You know, I like the term surrender because.

26:29 We obviously started this war. It was unnecessary. We had even there was pressure being applied, which even if you take right or wrong off the table there and show that we shouldn't even be as aggressive, we were, you know, going back to our June 22nd bombing that we did. That was the 12 day war, which was, you know, the anniversary of Operation Barbarossa, of all things that we did back in twenty twenty five. You take that off the table. We had negotiations that were pending that were going really well between our representatives and the Iranians and the pressure from the Israelis. Which it's starting to look like it's not just the Israeli faction that wants to continue this war, because there's probably just civilization versus those who want the great reset at this point.

27:19 That's the way I'm looking at it, Billy. In order to really continue this war, you have to turn the engine of the world economy on. And there's a there's a faction in this world that wants to do that. They're mainly the end of the world industrial complex people. You the great reset types, Davos crowd, depopulation enthusiasts. Then you have the warmongers. The people want to build the third temple to usher in the Antichrist. You get a lot of those people across sections of evangelical Christianity and ardent political Zionists. And those get those get together. But there there is a other faction here.

28:00 You get the Klaus Schwab types, those who believe that, you know, with Yuval Harari in the World Economic Forum, they believe that man is a hackable animal or just kind of Henry Kissinger ask useless eaters. And so there's a lot of people that want to turn the world economy off. It's funny that at the brink of this, you have the term taco. You know, Trump always chickens out. Well, thank God, because that that represents civilization. I mean, we're literally on the brink of turning the engine off and the. The consequences. Of that, the domino effect of energy going, you know, from gas going to five, six, seven, eight bucks a gallon and beyond and credit drying up and bank runs and failures and currency collapse.

28:50 Like you're talking about financial Armageddon. And we came damn close on a brief brinksmanship of just having that set off, and I don't know that we've actually avoided it. I mean, you look at the headlines on Drudge right now, where it moves is close it again because Israel won't stop bombing people, you know, like this thing that we created. They can acting, you know, that we signed off on and we like as albatross and you know, and we're just wedded to this deal. And, you know, we were talking off air about the Republicans. You know, J.D. Vance is now pushing back. Now he's an enemy of Israel just for actually having an opinion. This is how this is how dangerous and bloodthirsty this faction is that wants continual warfare and that sees Iran as a, you know, Iran is not an existential threat unless you make it one.

29:40 And obviously we've made we Iran doesn't have to do anything, by the way. Like they they're winning de facto, like their power is increasing, even if they're getting hit, even if they can't control their airspace because they control the Strait of Hormuz and they control whether there's chaos there or not. And they can do that asymmetrically, nonlinear, nonlinear warfare. So the whole thing about surrendering. Yes, because there's no way to win. There's no way to win. The only way to win is not to play the game. That's not how you deal with Iran. And it's certainly wasn't in the interest of the United States to do any of this, as I've said many times. It's hurt us. It's hurt our standing. It's I think political consequences have yet to be fully realized.

30:25 I mean, with the midterms coming up and the Republican Party is absolutely toast. Anybody associated with this administration doesn't have enough time to get the failure off of them to get to twenty twenty eight. So bad news for anybody. I mean, we're talking about Rubio and Vance in the green room before we got started. And it's bad. I mean, those I think everybody's toast on that side. And it's not even done yet. Three hundred billion. Unfrozen assets and then, you know, leverage in order to rebuild Iran and all the rest of that, plus other things and lifting us, I'm all for lifting of sanctions. I think we should get everything flowing again. But there's that faction that is really exposed themselves as wanting perpetual war and wanting to bring civilization to its knees for their own apocalyptic views.

31:14 It is it is not politics. It's apocalypse. They're trying to literally bring about Armageddon. Anybody who wants continued war with Iran, not about Israel's survival. They have 300 nuclear weapons. This is about them running the table in the Middle East, having having the ability to do whatever they want and the greater Israel project. And don't forget, they want to usher in the end of days like that is the whole point of a lot of the hardliners. They believe this stuff. And great nations don't talk that way and they don't believe those things. Question, Tony, answer it, and then I'll go to Dunn. What's it say? Let me see. Tony, do you see Judy's criticism in parentheses in quotations of Israel as an authentic or political play?

32:01 I have to I have to understand more of the comments, Vance's Judy. For some reason, he's calling him Judy, J.D. Vance. Oh, I don't know where you got that from, but OK. Well, I mean, if he if he has any political animal in him at all, you would start distance yourself now. But I think it's too late. I mean, it's a any thinking person, you know, because Ted Cruz is obviously not a thinking person. Lindsey Graham's not a thinking person. Lindsey Graham's not a thinking person. Most Fox News commentators aren't thinking people. If you're looking at trends or where America's going or having any sort of internal dialogue, like if you're not an MPC, then Israel is not a not something you want to change or hit your wagon to politically or otherwise.

32:49 I mean, they're making likes to their leadership is absolutely out of their mind. And they're they're they're just being apocalyptic for apocalyptic sake. They've taken they've taken a very dark turn. And this isn't the Israel of the Yom Kippur War or 1967 like this isn't this isn't the this isn't the Israel of the 90s. Like we're talking about a completely different animal here. Yeah, man. J.D. Vance. Is is always political. We don't know who J.D. Vance is. Yeah, he changed his name like five different times. I know this before we I'll let you go, Dumbie. I said this long. There's something manufactured about this guy. And I don't I don't know a man that's like that age for like, where's your valley in your life?

33:34 Like all he has is an up and to the right, like his life is like this. It's like slowly and then up. And there's no like, hey, I had to go through this. It's just this. And I don't trust people like that. It's Peter Thiel. Yeah, it's Peter Thiel the whole time, even when he was anti-medic. It was Peter Thiel. This guy is is just the ultimate political chameleon. It's the same reason I have issues with Tucker Carlson. They are both, in my opinion, just getting along or going along to get along politically, personally. All right, Don Jeffries, your thoughts? Well, I think the stupid senseless war is there for one purpose.

34:14 Some some good may come out of it, because what it is is it's again revealing, you know, Zionism's pants have been have come all the way off. Everybody sees it now. And again, I'm on I'm very active on S X. And if you don't follow me over there, I'm back. Thanks to the Mother's Day miracles at Don Jeffries. So please follow me over there. And I've been tweeting a lot. And everything is debates about Israel, debates about Zionism. It's unbelievable to see not only, you know, the prominent Jews, but people like evangelists like Mike Huckabee and people like that. Ted Cruz. These people are absolutely insane on the subject of Israel. They all believe in the greater Israel project. They're not saying it, but that's what they believe in.

34:56 Because this the whole thing is Israel must defend itself. And Trump abandoned them. I mean, Trump's done a lot of really dumb stuff. But for the last person that should be the last group that should be mad at Trump or Zionist. I mean, what the hell else can this guy do? He held BB's chair out for him. You know, I don't know what else. But now they're upset at him because he abandoned them. He betrayed them because he apparently he balked at them. He said basically, well, you know, if you could just stop bombing the buildings with civilians in them, that's basically what he said. Very gingerly. And he also said about Iran as well. It's kind of a little not fair that they can't have missiles. I mean, those are I don't know what happened to Trump and Stein.

35:38 Once in a while, he still throws out something sensible. But that and that's got them going crazy. And then Vance's comments do as well. But when you see how ridiculous it is, I've tried to point out an X all the time. Wait a minute. This whole stuff is because of October 7th, supposedly. Now, Hamas, we're told, is behind October 7th. They're not associated with Lebanon. Lebanon, they call them Hezbollah. Right. So why do you keep bombing Lebanon for October 7th? And they continue to. And I see all these Jews and Christian evangelicals crying. And this is terrible. They killed four IDF soldiers. And then Anna Kasparian had the nerve to say it should have been a lot more because not because we want to see people killed.

36:19 But I said, wait a minute. They couldn't have killed any soldiers if they weren't invading their country. Why are the why are the IDF soldiers there? What are they doing in Lebanon during a ceasefire? This is this is what Israel does. Israel, they again, you've got to read there and more rabbis, more crazy. The one that Tucker went everybody nuts because he said this guy, Ben Gavir, was worse than any of the more bloodthirsty than any of the Nazi officials. And boy, boy, did that get the Zionists upset. But this guy is a nut. Look at some of the videos he posts. He's a high ranking official. Look at I just saw some other Israeli official that just they're bragging about, you know, we have to we want to demolish houses.

37:02 I've seen several videos saying they're trying to stop us from demolishing houses. This I mean, you've got to read. This is the people, their own videos, their own words, no out of context stuff. And so there's a there's a reason why the world is turning against them. And the only thing keeping them afloat are these crazy Christian evangelicals. So I am coming out more and more now saying you're not Christian. First of all, you never talk about Jesus. You never mentioned Jesus name. Never. All you do is talk about Israel and the chosen people, the people that rejected your savior. And that is a Catholic. We were told that again, too.

37:43 You heard that they were responsible for the crucifixion of Christ. They caused Christ to be crucified. Can't say that anymore. So now we have to worship them. This is absurd. And nobody wants to. But if you couple this with what also I see on X, the persecution complex on the part of world jury is unbelievable. They actually had a doctor in Canada. He's he doesn't feel safe. So he has to move from Canada because there's so much anti-Semitism there. Somebody in Ireland, there's a bar owner in Ireland. He doesn't feel safe because two women spat at him. So because two women spat at him, that means that people want to exterminate Jews.

38:26 That's the jump that they make. So I keep telling them, look, nobody wants to exterminate Jews. I've never seen an example of anti-Semitism in my entire life. Not one. How would most people don't know who who a Jew is if they're walking down the street to say something to them? It makes no sense. And so coupled with that. So you have the truly, you know, crazy people like Laura Loomer who should be in a padded room somewhere. And then other people like that that are there's there's no the only thing keeping you afloat is the craziness of the Christian evangelicals. If they turn on you and finally realize, hey, let's let's pay a little attention to Jesus Christ and stop worrying about Israel.

39:06 If they do that, it's over because nobody else cares about it. That's why I hope I hope Bibi Netanyahu and all these other proud Israelis. I hope you go it on your own. I'm all for it, man. I'm all for cutting off the trust fund. And I mean, they're they're they're claiming we never gave them anything. Billions every year is nothing. We were responsible. You know, we didn't do that. They're even saying that is we were we didn't weren't responsible for for creating Israel. This mantra is that we did it with our blood, sweat and tears and American military force and terrorism. Yeah, terrorism. Exactly. The Ergun gang, things like that. So this is nonsense. And the good thing about it is that the left, mostly the left and people like Anna Kasparian and Cenk Uygur, who, you know, I couldn't stand before, but, you know, they've been transformed into, you know, people, you know, that I love at this point what they're talking about.

39:59 So there it Zionism is not. You cannot defend it intellectually. And I keep harping on that point that there is nothing. So and people are realizing that it's under a microscope. And so you can't just keep saying Israel's right to defend itself when Tucker Carlson, whatever he is, Tucker Carlson now is saying, what do you mean Israel has the right to defend itself? No one's ever said that before. Why doesn't Iran have a right to defend itself? They're the ones being attacked. So the world is tired of they're not buying the stuff of Israel has the right to defend itself when they keep attacking countries. They attack first and then blame the victim. So I'm glad Anna Kasparian and lots of other people are not buying the nonsense that four IDF soldiers are killed in Lebanon.

40:46 They were killed because they were in Lebanon. They were occupying Lebanon or invading whatever they're doing. The nonsense has to stop. We need to unplug from Israel. I don't know that Trump and them would ever do that. I doubt it very seriously, but it would be great to see. And it's nice that at least, you know, people online and in the media are saying that this is ridiculous. Yes, go it on your own, because Israel keeps saying we don't need you. Good. Show us you don't need to see what you do. See how long you last over there with all those crazy people in the Middle East that you've pissed off for decades. See how long you last there without our help. I would love to. The world would love to see it.

41:27 No more greater Israel project. But this is nonsense. And the good thing is that it's out in the open and you can't put that genie back in the bottle. All the rabbis and all the people you saw, if you saw a priest or Christian ministers making the comments these rabbis are making, Jews, Jews have a higher level of soul, terrible stuff, supremacist stuff. They're the supremacist. They would never they would be, you know, protests all over for it. People see it now. And that's the great thing about X. The bad thing about X is a lot of bad things about it. But the great thing is it shows people for what they really are. They can't contain their personalities and they have to express themselves.

42:09 They want the world to know what they really think. So take a look at that and see what these prominent Zionists are doing. Maybe somewhere in the line, you'll you'll see one of my comments that gets a little bit of attention. But I'm I think it's great. So we'll see what happens here. But I'm rooting for Trump instead to stand strong. I know he won't. But I mean, it's you know, who knows? But we'll see if any other American leaders back him up. So far, they're all the entire Republican Party, except for Vance, has turned on them there. You know, they're there, you know, saying, oh, you know, we can't do this. We can't do that. I don't know why Trump did unless you you say. That this is somehow not a part of an act of the act and that he just his personal ego, he couldn't take it anymore, that he looks so bad doing this stupid Iran thing and that he heard the criticism, he knew how dumb it was.

43:02 And he finally just said, well, I've got to get out of there no matter what. But I applaud the Iran deal. I think it's great. Well, I've I've seen true anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism is a thing. One hundred percent. There's no no arguing about it. If you're from New York, you've seen it. And just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist either. You know, so it is it is a thing. Just a heads up. We don't have a lot of time left. John Brison wanted to come on and say something real quick. I'm going to give him a little bit of time and then we're getting out of here.

43:43 Tony, do you have thoughts? Well, it's a great breakdown by Don, not much to add there. I just do. I do think and agree that the trends don't point in a powerful direction towards what has been. And I think, you know, anybody who's smart will start distancing themselves from these failed policies. What was it? Wasn't it Lord Acton that said Don was that the height of stupidity is is clinging to the carcasses of dead policies or something? Yeah, it's great, man. Lord Acton. Yeah. All right, John, what's up, man? What do you got to say? Welcome to America Unplugged. Tony and Don are here and the rest of the audience. What's up to the people, sir?

44:24 Hey, glad to be here. Thank you for having me on, Billy. So where are you? Donna, Donna, I'm doing a couple of things for you. One, I'm as I've talked about on my channel, I'm a former white nationalist. And there are plenty of people, especially on that side, that you would definitely want exterminated. I mean, there used to be I don't even know if I can say the phrase on YouTube, but it was fairly, you know, put out there and put forth out there. So I mean, like to say that those people don't exist, that's an outright lie, man. I've never read anything by any of them.

45:04 Most of them, but they question and claim that Jews weren't exterminated. I've never heard anybody say that they should be exterminated. Maybe they exist. I I've never read any of them that say that they should be. There used to be a thing called gas, the case race war. Now, that was an infamous saying in white nationalist circles and cultures, just like 1488 was. Yeah, and so that was very frequent, quite frequently. It was quite. Yeah. I wasn't invited to that party, John. I don't know. Yeah, it's very I mean, it doesn't exist. Yeah, no. And how much of that? I mean, honestly, if you're looking at through a lens of creating a reaction, I mean, how much of that stuff is funded by actual Zionists like type sympathize?

45:49 Like when you think that those those were run by the same kind of the same kind of government assets that run the most extreme elements of white and black? No, no, not all of them were. I mean, look at Don Black on Stormfront, who rents has on. I mean, Stormfront was full of white nationalists that hated Jews. You also have black nationalists that hate Jews, too. It's ridiculous. And all feds. Yeah, it's a thing. It's a real thing. And have feds infiltrated aspects of everything? Probably. But these are real things, you know, that they're real. And it is niche, Tony, which is.

46:31 Which is super important to point out, because especially nowadays, they it's also growing, though, Billy, it is growing, it is. But it's it's still a big minority. It is growing. And it's it's a it's a problem. But do they do what they hate? Jews just purveying Jews, or would they hate what they're saying in Israel? And what the comments of these? No, they hate them. They they're people. They're people. They choose just for sting, just like any race. And I'm totally against what Ben-Gavir said. It's horrible. I've known about the Habaal Lubavitch rabbis. You know what Minkam Steerson has said about the Gentiles as cattle, as goyim, as animals. I've known about that on my channel.

47:16 Well, you got to frame it as destroying the initial impact. We got to go and you're breaking up. But yeah, there are people that. What I will tell you is, you know, John is an ex-white nationalist. I didn't know that. I didn't know that before. Before the media got a hold of Pete Hanks and those tattoos, John knew exactly what they were before anybody was talking about because he was he was around that, that, you know. I don't know what to call it, that atmosphere, those people. I guess he was around that. So he saw that. So he knew what it was very, very dangerous things. And and that's why.

47:56 The people that are currently in office are incredibly dangerous because they're driven by these ideologies, some more than others, but but they are definitely driven by this. John, you can hang out and say goodbye if you want, but you're chopping up really, really heavy, Tony. I'm on my wife right now. Am I still chopping up? No, but we're getting out of here anyway. OK, I'll give you more time on Gorilla Underground if we go live. Tony, what's up? All the wolves tell the people what's going on, buddy. Well, again, a great show, and I love the the breakdown from Don. I thought that really I thought was one of the best Don Jeffrey segments in a while we've had. It's a good stream of consciousness there, sir.

48:38 It's a lot to talk about. You know, it's interesting. The divisions that are presented to us as a culture, especially here in the United States, I think a lot of them are manufactured. I think a lot of them are blown out of proportion. It is a danger. You know, you actually you get cultus acts of of people that just hate for hate's sake that those people exist. It's a very small minority. But what happens is when you get them, if you shine lights on any of those people, what happens is that you take legitimate criticism like we had today and you lump it in with that. You know, like I don't please any fringe group or where all the energy is.

49:18 You know, it's like I don't have any of any backing there, because like whether you're a neocon and you want, you know, these democracy experiments for to bring to usher in the perpetual revolution or whether you're anti Semite or something, I have I'm neither one of those things. I just want to talk about what's what works, what doesn't, what's good for humanity, what isn't and what I believe in a best analysis. It's leaves me out of the political spectrum a lot. But that's I think the point of this show is to try to break down and suss out what actually is the truth to the best of our ability. Right. And all three of us, we have different viewpoints, but we're definitely not grifting.

49:59 Oh, we if we were, we could have a much larger show. You're absolutely right, sir. Donald Jeffries, the Tony, did you tell people where they can find Tony Gold? Just go to Tony Gold. You can find all about my shows and me and turning your fiat currency into actual money through there is any link. Hit wise wolf or wolf pack or any of that stuff and support the show. Yes, support the show. Please do the whole thing. It's Tony Arterburn, the wisest of all the wolves, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, Don Jeffries, what's going on? Yeah, no. And again, I want to first before because we talk so much about anti-Semitism as I as I keep telling people on on X, define it, define it for me first.

50:43 And that's all Candace Owens was trying to get Ben Shapiro to do. And he wouldn't debate her. Give us a give us a definition that an objective definition of they can't do it. It's what it basically is, whatever, whatever offends a Jew and a particular Jew, and I don't think we can go by that. Substack is the only place that I'm not being shadowed, man. Donald Jeffries at Substack dot com. I protest also on X. I'm back on X to whatever degree I'm back there at Don Jeffries. So you can follow me there. And again, I want to say I don't hate anybody. I hate what Israel is doing. I hate what these high profile Jews are saying. It offends me. So it's got nothing to do with hate. Some we should hate something because they're allowed to hate things.

51:27 So, you know, hate is a human emotion. So we're and we're allowed to be offended by it. So I'm just saying I'm offended by war. I'm offended by supremacy. And they have both of that in spades. They think they're superior. I don't think I'm superior. And they want war instead of peace. I want peace. No, I think you're superior. You think more highly of yourself. I will say this. When they desecrate synagogues with swastikas, I think that qualifies as anti-Semitism. I don't think there's a lot of explanation that needs to be done for that. And it happens here. Sure. It happens here often. So, yeah, people tend to exploit the term.

52:07 Some people in some areas, people do that across the board. Right. But there's a clear definition of what anti-Semitism is. And it is real. It is a thing. And and there's a lot of it that goes on here in the all media because the Jews are everything right. The Jews are responsible for every single thing that goes on. And they own everything. And that's the narrative that's been fed here for a long time, not here on America Unplugged, just in general. My name is Billy Ray Valentine. This has been America Unplugged. What's up to everybody? I hope everybody's having a good time. Thank you, Liz, the Iron Maiden, all the way from Europe.

52:47 What's up to you and all my European brothers and sisters? Can't wait to get over there one day and party with all the it's happening. Thank you for the Father's Day wishes. We are all fathers. So that's dope. Being a father is fantastic. So happy Father's Day to everyone. That's a father's day, you know, and any new reviews, Billy? Before we saw no new reviews, I was getting to that. Nothing yet, man. I don't know what's up. What's up with people? Wish us a happy Father's Day. Five stars. Put that on on the Apple podcast. I was I was getting to that's when I saw it here. But that's it. Everybody that's in rumble. What's going on to all of you? How are you and everybody here across the platforms on X and on YouTube?

53:28 What's up? How are you guys doing? That's it. That's all I got. Burner plays down. OK, unless you got something else to play in the South. All right.