#230 America Unplugged -MAGA's Mirror: Cults, Compromise, and the Death of the Opposition

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Author of Hidden History and Survival of the Richest.

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Host of the Donald Jeffries Show.

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Billy Ray Valentine.

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Host of the Infinite Fringe Podcast.

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Researcher.

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Truth Seeker.

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From the Bronx, New York.

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Tony Arterburn.

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Radio Host.

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Combat Veteran.

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Precious Metals Analyst.

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And Alt Historian.

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Together, they take on the headlines of the week.

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Decode the disinformation and plow through the mainstream propaganda.

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Unauthorized.

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Unscripted.

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And unintimidated.

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This is America Unplugged.

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Well, it is America Unplugged.

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Changing the volume of the intro, as I do for Billy, who's not here.

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He was hanging a picture in his bathroom.

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He slipped, hit his head on the toilet, and when he awoke,

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he was able to draw the schematics for the flux capacitors.

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He's not gone back in time to stop MAGA from ever happening.

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We wish Billy well.

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See him on the other side of our changed reality.

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I'm here with one of the usual suspects, which is the legendary

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Donald Jeffries, author of Hidden History, Crimes and Cover-Ups,

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Survival of the Richest, which, by the way, Don, Survival of the Richest,

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becoming more true every day as we accelerate towards 2030.

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So, congratulations on that, Mitt.

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That aged very well, sir.

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Welcome back to your own show.

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Yeah, oh, thanks.

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Sorry, Mitt.

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Sorry I missed it last week.

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I understand Ashley's filled in well there, too.

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So, yeah, no, it's great to be here.

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And, yeah, it's nice to, if just more people would buy and read them.

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But, yeah, I'm proud of it.

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Definitely proud of that book.

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Many people don't know.

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We've mentioned it, but Don's books are on the bookstore for Tucker Carlson.

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So, if anybody knows Tucker, we got to get Don on with Tucker.

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Anybody has any contacts, let us know.

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Don needs to be on the Tucker Carlson show.

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Also joining us today, in place of time traveling Billy Ray Valentine,

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is Ashley, the Think, Change, Repeat over on X, Nights of the Storm.

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Researcher was here last week.

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We got so many emails, Ashley, saying, bring her back.

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He made the show and one of you guys needs to get off.

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So, we're just making turns, rotating Ashley back in.

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Welcome back to America Unplugged, Ashley.

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Thank you very much.

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As usual, very much an honor to be here.

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And also before Billy ended up time traveling,

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he did want me to express to the people that he blames

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President Trump for cursing the Knicks this week.

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So, he's going to try to change that if possible,

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cause a traffic jam, anything to prevent that,

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so that technically the Knicks would win in four.

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But Billy, when you're back there, tell 2010, Tony, buy Bitcoin, more of it.

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I can't wait until 2016.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Just hand me a piece of paper that says, buy it.

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Thank you, Billy.

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All right, well, Don, we talked off air.

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And some of this stuff, we may have some regurgitation from last week

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or a little bit of revisits.

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But what are you thinking?

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What's the headlines that you want to cover from the dystopia this week?

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Well, again, I just think that, and I was telling you,

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I was watching those walk away debates between insurance and people on one side,

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the people that are still loyal to America first, Trump's original rhetoric,

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and the people that are still supporting it, which is definitely,

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they have Jim Jones, the Moonies have nothing on these people.

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It's an absolute cult.

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And you saw them listening to him, and they just were, again,

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just regurgitating all the stuff he's done, the great stuff.

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Like Alex Jones, you say, what about all the great stuff?

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He said, well, give us an example of something great he did.

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I don't know what that would be.

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But it's frightening to see what that has become,

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because we all had such hope for it.

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Owen Schwerer, he brings up Doge like I do.

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That was something, the first three months or so last year,

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or whatever it was, of the second administration, we're just full of hope.

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RFK, maybe, with making America healthy.

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Nobody even talks about Maha anymore.

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Tulsi Gabbard's gone.

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He's not really, and to be replaced, apparently, by a real Epstein crony.

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If Peter Sikash hops in here, maybe he can give us more details on that.

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He wrote me something about it, but he's done research on him.

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Like all of Trump's picks, other than those few, have been awful.

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To see the way things deteriorated, and to see that side,

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the people that call themselves MAGA, and they were saying,

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litanies, you were never MAGA.

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We were never that kind of MAGA, no.

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But supporting, and now they're getting to the point where they're not,

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they refuse to call the Iran thing a war.

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They're saying it's not a war, and they're justifying it.

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We said no to wars.

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This isn't a war.

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You have to listen to them, the genuflecting they go through,

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the gymnastics, the mental gymnastics, to try to justify it.

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That's where we are.

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I don't know who, again, I'm writing about these data centers,

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and I'm just trying to figure out, other than the people in there,

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who's trying to stop them.

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But again, we're just, we're rudderless.

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Trump was given as the opposition leader.

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Now he's proven to be a total fraud to everybody, except for his cult.

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And so people, unfortunately, need leaders.

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And I had Dr. Shiva on my show last week, and he didn't like hearing that.

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He kept saying, yeah, I like grassroots movements too.

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But people are followers.

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You have to have someone in charge.

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When they killed Huey Long, the Share of the Wealth movement died.

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I mean, it was still there, but it had no more power.

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Martin Luther King, when he was killed, the Civil Rights movement died.

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It couldn't continue with the Jesse Jackson nonsense.

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You need a real leader.

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And whatever Trump is, he's the leader of this.

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And there's nobody else.

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That's a Machiavellian tactic, is strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter.

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And you read about, if you read any sort of Machiavellian philosophy,

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and neocons and power structure, they always use that.

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I mean, it's soulless, and it does bring about results,

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but there's no substance in it.

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They just continue to do that.

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They'll strike the shepherd, any type of real movement.

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You can tell what is grassroots, and people are followers.

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It's interesting.

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We'll go back to the Owen Schroer debates, and Owen's a friend of mine,

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and I've seen his progression throughout the years.

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By the way, mine too.

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I'm not static.

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I don't have the same ideas that I did five, 10 years ago.

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And I've been in broadcasting for over 13 years.

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I started out in radio.

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And one thing that I've learned is that I've chosen over the years,

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even though I have the ability to, I could have had a much larger audience.

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I don't care that I didn't do that.

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It's not like I'm missing out on anything.

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Maybe there's an explanation in some of this with the people that are still MAGA,

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or people that still are backing this regime, or this idea, or lack of ideas.

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Do you think it's money, Don?

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I mean, at the end of the day,

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it can't be just because they're getting source money.

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It has to be from people.

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You and I both know, Don, if we had a stupider idea, if we dumbed down a bit,

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and we started talking about, if we didn't bring our best analysis,

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and maybe just stuck on a certain subject matter,

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we could 100x our audience, which again, is money.

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I mean, anytime you amplify who listens to you, that's donations, that's products,

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that's all sorts of things.

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Are these people, these remnants, are they just holding on because they're still...

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I mean, you can go on X, or you can go anywhere online.

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You can still find the people, especially a certain demographic.

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I know that Owen debated the boomers and stuff first, and some of the Israeli firsters.

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It really is disturbing listening to some of their ideas,

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because they're just regurgitations of propaganda,

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like from Fox News, or people like Sean Hannity.

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So that's kind of easy, but you're mentioning he's debating people that are still like...

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They're influencers that are closer to my age, that are leading people.

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It has to be...

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They have to know at a certain level that they're on the wrong side of history,

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but are they just sticking to it because there's an audience there?

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Well, I think that more than money, people...

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I said they're followers, but they're also bandwagon fans.

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You'll see that in New York right now with all the Knicks fans.

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Taylor Swift suddenly is a Knicks fan, I guess.

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I knew that.

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I thought she was for the Chiefs, and I'm sure she's for any Los Angeles team,

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since that's where she lives.

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But that's the way people are.

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They want to be...

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They invest, whether it's...

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And it's the same thing holds for politics, too.

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If Trump wins, that's all that counts, whether it's fraudulent or not.

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And those people, yeah, that's, what have you won?

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And that's not a losing thing.

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There's a huge part of that.

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He can't win.

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Somebody who's really talking about real issues, well, he can't win.

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He can't.

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Well, Trump can win, or this guy can win by being more pragmatic.

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So I think there's a lot of that.

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And some of them obviously are making...

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They're drifting in various ways.

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It pays to not be too controversial, and certainly to go against Israel.

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You can see.

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I look on X, and it's amazing to see how many people...

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James Woods, that actor everybody credits for being one of the right winners.

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He just shills for Israel.

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And I tweet to these guys.

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None of them are going to recognize me.

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I'm an insignificant fly to these people.

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But I just said, do you need money that bad, really?

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You really need money this badly to be shilling for...

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You're talking about some...

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I don't know how many Holocaust museums there are.

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Apparently, they're everywhere now.

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Because he was talking about the newest Holocaust museum somewhere.

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It's like, what?

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And he's just virtue signaling.

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And he's supposed to be a right winger.

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So I don't know.

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That's kind of all over the place.

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But I think people are not only followers, but they're bandwagon fans,

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whether it's sports or politics.

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People like to back a winner.

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They don't care that much about principle.

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That's what you used to see at all the conventions.

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The Republicans, all the drunk people would get together,

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and they'd be...

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All the stupid hats they'd have on, and they'd be waving the signs,

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and hugging and kissing each other.

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And that's what they like.

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The fact that their candidate is winning, so they're winning.

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It doesn't matter what they're winning.

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And same thing with sports.

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I mean, Jerry Seinfeld, all these people coming out of the woodworks,

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to be at Knicks fans.

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Just like you see Jack Nicholson back in the day with the Lakers and everything.

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They want to be associated with winners.

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You're not going to see these guys show up at a last place team thing ever.

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And that's the way it is with politics as well.

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Trump's a winner.

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So now the Thomas Massey types are losers.

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Can he win?

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And that's all that counts.

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Doesn't matter what you win, is winning.

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That's true.

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And you look at the 1980s, Don,

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and you've written a lot about the Reagan administration.

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There was a similar cult around Reagan.

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Not nearly like you see with Trump.

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I mean, it's not even remotely the same thing.

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But in the days of the Cold War, towards the end of the 80s,

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when Reagan was doing peace deals with Gorbachev,

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right before the collapse of the Soviet Union,

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he'd bring Gorbachev over to the White House,

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and they'd have like a summit or something.

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And a lot of the hardliners would turn their back,

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literally like in the room, would turn their back

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as the president would come in with Gorbachev,

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like turning their back on him because he's making peace.

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Which is kind of the opposite of today,

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you know, like the president's making war,

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and then you have his supporters saying it's not a war.

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So like we've reached another level

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of disassociation with reality.

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I'm not, nothing like this has actually ever happened

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this way before in our political spectrum.

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And you're right, people do back a winner.

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Ashley, what do you think, my synopsis in all of this

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is that like the people that are hanging on

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are doing so for short-term self-interest.

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They have to be aware.

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And do you think they are aware?

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I mean, of just how wrong all of this is,

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like the letdown, the betrayal of MAGA to its base?

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I think that's a really good question.

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I would say no.

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And I think that it all centers around topics

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that you have, you and Don have already touched on,

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the irrationality of crowds.

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And we know, you quoted Machiavelli

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and his book, The Prince came out in the 1500s.

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So one thing is that crowd management or manipulation

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on some sort of like sociological

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or scientific behavioral level

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has been out for a very long time.

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It's a tale as old as time.

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And that is something that the people

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who consider themselves our betters,

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this aristocracy or like Edward Bernays

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and people that came from that type of stock,

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they did think that they were better

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than the regular people.

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And they have been studying manipulation

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for a very long time in many different iterations.

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But every generation after learns

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from everything that was presented before,

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from Machiavelli all the way till now,

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with a huge amount of data mining

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that they have access to.

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And so I do think that there is an awareness of that,

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whether even if we don't wanna get into,

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say like some of the higher level think tanks

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like the globalist crowd,

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we must know that there is PR

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and propaganda involved in the messaging

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and that that is very powerful.

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Now, the people that are still,

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that I know that still support Trump,

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I don't push them on it too much,

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but one of my really good friends,

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I consider them Zionist.

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And when I was talking about it,

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I said, I'm an anarchist.

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Neither of these parties are helpful to us at all.

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And they were like,

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well, at least they're somewhat pro-life.

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That was literally what she said to me.

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Now they're involved in the,

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I guess I would say more fundamentalist Christian movement

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and huge supporters of Israel.

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But I thought to myself,

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you're a smart person.

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How could it not occur to you

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that neither side is pro-life?

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You can be pro-life from the anti-abortion movement,

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but do you not see that children are suffering?

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They're starving.

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They're getting shot.

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They're getting abused.

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They're getting bombed.

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And this is not just in Gaza.

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Of course, that is our shining example right now,

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but we also have that taking place in Lebanon.

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And some people are discussing that,

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but a lot of times they're not discussing

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that Jews and Christians are also being killed in Lebanon.

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Lebanon was in the seventies,

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I think a 50% Christian country.

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The president's Christian now.

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Yeah, 30% now to this day.

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And I spoke with one of my friends on my show

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who was from Lebanon

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and he was raised as a Catholic

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and he said that they really didn't experience

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very much discrimination at all

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for these religious differences there.

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But the point of all that is just to say

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that they don't care.

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So I think it's a couple of things.

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It is a rationality.

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It is feeling like being married

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to a narrative associated with that figure.

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For example, a lot of people

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that are maybe like my dad's age

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that are Trumpers are,

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even though I think I can have

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a somewhat reasonable conversation with him,

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he still has this old mentality of Iran is the bad guy.

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That is a decades old narrative.

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So sometimes I don't think people are even aware

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of the amount of time that they're exposed to a narrative

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and just sitting down asking themselves,

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why do I believe that?

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So I think it's really complicated

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from a human perspective as far as who's in.

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I think that there is the element of we want a winner.

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I think there's an element of,

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I have invested so much time and energy

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into this ideology that it would be literally

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like psychically, mentally painful for me

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to break away from that.

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And just, so it's almost like what it reminds me of

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is in the five stages of grief

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or in addiction treatment that you,

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the first step is admitting you have a problem.

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It's overcoming denial.

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And the denial is so strong with so many people.

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And I don't really know that it could be shaken

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at this point because like

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what you were talking about earlier,

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we are really at a peak.

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It feels revelatory.

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It feels peak insanity in all of history.

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So, and the other thing is that

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one of the things that I say

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is they keep the tax cattle busy.

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When people are busy grinding,

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increasingly having their dollar devalued

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and paying more at the pump

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and they have kids and sports and homes

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and all of these things and trying to have

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like a little piece of Americana

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still left for themselves.

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I think that it's really difficult for them

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to actually even have time

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to address some of these greater philosophical,

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moral questions.

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And we also don't live in a society

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that encourages like high culture.

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Like let's read the great works.

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Let's study Machiavelli.

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Let's study, so there's so many factors

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that have gone into getting us

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where we're at now that it is a giant mess.

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Yeah, there's a connectivity to it.

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I mean, I was talking to my grandmother

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who's 91 and super sharp,

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like a beautiful woman still.

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I mean, just an amazing person.

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We've had many conversations over the years,

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but I just happened to see her on Thursday night.

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And she asked me about Israel

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and because she was raised in East Texas,

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Northeast Texas,

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and this was evangelical land and everything.

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It's just her whole upbringing.

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But one of the things that,

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she was asking me more and more questions

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and I was explaining to her the hidden history

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behind the Balfour Declaration

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and the genesis of the modern state of Israel,

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not the Israelites, like the two different things

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and even like the origin of the Khazars

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and all of that stuff.

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And she was taking it in.

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And I said, look, I understand,

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reflect, she's not gonna push back

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like in an emotional way.

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She's just retaining it.

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And then she agreed with me.

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She's like, well, Netanyahu is evil.

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She's watching Fox News.

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And even she was like, he's evil.

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And she got that, right?

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So it's not impossible to reach people at all.

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And actually she wanted me to come back over,

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I'm going too soon

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and just do a more thorough breakdown

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of all of this history.

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And that needs to happen.

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These conversations need to happen.

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And I'm wondering, as we discuss this

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and even talking about the influencers

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who are still so pro-MAGA,

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is that just design that's strained through all of that?

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Is that easy to explain away?

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Like there's money there,

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or I'm not talking about the followers necessarily,

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but the influencers themselves,

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the people that Shroyer was debating.

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There has to be a common thread among them

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of their support for Israel

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and what's going on in Gaza,

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what's going on with the Iran war.

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And could I just ask a question

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of what do both of you think about this?

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Because this is something that I often think about

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in regards to that as well.

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So we obviously know about the Mockingbird media, right?

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And this is something that I've been looking into

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with one of my friends.

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So we're looking at the origins of modern day propaganda.

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So we know that they had the four minute men

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and the junior four minute men

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and the colored four minute men.

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And these were, and I'm not being offensive,

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that is what they were called at that time.

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So just wanted to clear that up.

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But these are people that were trained

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and chosen for their oratory skills.

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And then they would go give impassioned four minute speeches

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in their communities.

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And they were drumming up support for World War I

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because it was not a popular idea.

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So that I think gives credence

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to the early days of the influencer.

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So what does that look like in today's day and time?

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Maybe we don't have documentation on that,

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that we know of,

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but we do know about the four minute men.

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We do know about Bernays.

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We do know about the Mockingbird Media.

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So who is being influenced from that perspective,

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from perhaps intelligentsia,

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one of the many intelligence groups out there or whatever.

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And we don't, and I'm not saying we know,

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but I'm saying this is something that I think about

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is if someone is being influenced in that way,

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and then that allows them to continue

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to speak the same rhetoric,

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like a Sean Hannity, for example,

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wearing his CIA pin.

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So I always wonder about that

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in regards to who we're seeing today.

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And I think it's really difficult

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because there is so much information out there.

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And there's so many people that are talking about this

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and their levels to the popularity of certain podcasters

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or whoever's being an influencer in this space.

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So that's one of the things I don't know,

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but I always wonder

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if that's also part of why they continue

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to be unmoving on very, very stupid ideas.

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Yeah, I knew early on when I started broadcasting

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that looking at the lay of the land,

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I said, I'm not gonna be that popular,

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but I will be on the right side of history eventually.

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This is a long-term investment.

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So it's funny, people that have accused me

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of being like controlled op or shill or something,

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I'm like, I've lost thousands and thousands

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of listeners over the years.

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People just turn me off.

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I mean, you should have seen in 2020,

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like the loss of downloads that I had

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and never recovered, by the way,

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because I was talking about the election

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not going in a way they thought was supposed to happen.

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I didn't get behind that.

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I didn't shill that either.

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It's funny, just being authentic

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is to the best of my ability.

512
00:22:56,079 --> 00:22:58,959
It's not profitable, but that's where I wanna be

513
00:22:58,959 --> 00:23:00,479
because I think on a long enough timeline,

514
00:23:00,479 --> 00:23:01,760
you end up looking ridiculous.

515
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,160
Don, have you ever heard that?

516
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,280
That's the prayer of the philosopher Voltaire.

517
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,599
He just said, oh God, please one time

518
00:23:09,599 --> 00:23:11,439
make my enemies look ridiculous.

519
00:23:11,439 --> 00:23:14,800
And so that's how I feel about my opposition.

520
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,760
Don, any last thoughts on this?

521
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,520
Yeah, I mean, well, I assume it's a good point

522
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,199
that you go back to the World War I days

523
00:23:21,199 --> 00:23:22,880
and you could even go back

524
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,000
to the beginning of the Republic.

525
00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:27,760
I wrote about, I think, an American memory hole

526
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,439
where there are indications,

527
00:23:29,439 --> 00:23:30,640
or at least he was accused of it,

528
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,920
that Alexander Hamilton, who I'm not a fan of

529
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,280
and he's the only founding father

530
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,439
that they became a black Broadway star.

531
00:23:37,439 --> 00:23:38,400
So you know they like him.

532
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,880
He's the banker's favorite father of debt.

533
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,920
But apparently he was a troll back in the days.

534
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:44,959
They didn't have the internet

535
00:23:44,959 --> 00:23:48,800
and he apparently adopted a persona to go online

536
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,479
to put out these establishment talking points.

537
00:23:52,479 --> 00:23:54,000
At least that's what he's accused of.

538
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,119
So I think we have had this since the beginning.

539
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,880
Now with the internet, we have real influence

540
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,319
and they call themselves influencers.

541
00:24:02,319 --> 00:24:06,239
You can see that they are, for the most part,

542
00:24:06,239 --> 00:24:08,239
I mean, I don't know any, we all get,

543
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,000
some of us get called it too.

544
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,719
First of all, you need to have some influence, I think,

545
00:24:12,719 --> 00:24:15,599
to be accused of profiting from it.

546
00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:18,479
But these people that you can see, they're installed.

547
00:24:18,479 --> 00:24:20,479
You know, it's what Jason Whitlock or Kat Williams,

548
00:24:20,479 --> 00:24:22,000
the comedian, called, I think,

549
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,680
the perfect way to describe it.

550
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:24,319
They're installed.

551
00:24:24,319 --> 00:24:28,800
And I would say, Tony, that walkaway debate,

552
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,640
I mean, the guy seems nice enough,

553
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,800
but I would say that guy was installed.

554
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,239
That has the walkaway thing.

555
00:24:34,239 --> 00:24:35,439
He has no personality.

556
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,640
He's very soft-spoken and boring,

557
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,520
but he's in a position where he's hosting these big debates

558
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,119
and he's got something behind it.

559
00:24:43,839 --> 00:24:46,000
I look at that as being installed.

560
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,760
You know, when somebody comes up and, you know,

561
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:48,719
I don't want to mention names,

562
00:24:48,719 --> 00:24:50,640
but you see, they come out of nowhere

563
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,719
and they suddenly have all these followers and everything.

564
00:24:52,719 --> 00:24:54,319
And you and I know, we all know,

565
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,599
how hard it is to get followers,

566
00:24:57,599 --> 00:24:59,119
how hard it is to get subscribers,

567
00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:02,319
how hard it is to click somebody to like something.

568
00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:03,280
It's not easy.

569
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,239
So for these people to show up and have them,

570
00:25:06,239 --> 00:25:08,000
and nobody's heard of half of them,

571
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,359
and I'll look and they'll say,

572
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,880
now they have a million followers.

573
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,719
How's that possible?

574
00:25:12,719 --> 00:25:14,640
And so those are influencers.

575
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,959
And I think that there's somebody's installing them

576
00:25:16,959 --> 00:25:19,680
and maybe some of them are organic.

577
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:20,319
I don't know.

578
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,479
Tucker Carlson's been around a long time.

579
00:25:22,479 --> 00:25:23,839
Of course, he gets accused of other things,

580
00:25:23,839 --> 00:25:25,040
but I don't think he was installed

581
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,520
or if he was installed, it was a long time ago.

582
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,359
It's nothing new to be installed.

583
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,160
But in terms of, and Alex Jones, again,

584
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,719
he certainly may have been installed,

585
00:25:34,719 --> 00:25:38,560
but you can see why Alex Jones had high ratings.

586
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,119
He was really entertaining.

587
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,400
He was different.

588
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,239
But most of these people are not entertaining.

589
00:25:44,239 --> 00:25:46,400
And we're all saying kind of the same stuff,

590
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,760
but the breakdown is showed on that walkaway debate.

591
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,280
The breakdown is Zionism.

592
00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:52,880
That's the issue.

593
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,880
That's the issue that's making people defend Trump.

594
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:57,680
For the most part.

595
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,040
I mean, of course, he's not doing anything else.

596
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,520
He said either, but that's the issue that revolves around it.

597
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,199
And Jackson T. Barrett is, excuse me,

598
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,520
I don't know what I'm supposed to read your chat

599
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:06,479
while the others are talking.

600
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,599
Stanley Meyer, read my book, Hidden History.

601
00:26:09,599 --> 00:26:11,119
Stanley Meyer, the guy that invented the car

602
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,040
that ran on water, I have his whole story in there.

603
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,239
So I'll just let you know.

604
00:26:14,239 --> 00:26:15,199
I know about these things.

605
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,920
Jackson T. Barrett, he still doesn't have a profile picture.

606
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,239
I think we're going to take a vote after the show.

607
00:26:22,239 --> 00:26:24,319
We're going to decide what your profile picture is going to be.

608
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,760
So Jackson.

609
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,520
And I tell him he wants to talk.

610
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,640
We don't do it on this show.

611
00:26:29,199 --> 00:26:31,680
Every one of my shows now that people can come on

612
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,479
and be on video or audio and be part of the show.

613
00:26:35,199 --> 00:26:36,400
I'd love to hear what you had to say

614
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,640
because you say a lot of different things.

615
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,319
Come on and jump in and tell me where you think I'm wrong

616
00:26:42,319 --> 00:26:43,199
or whatever you agreed.

617
00:26:43,199 --> 00:26:44,160
But I don't know.

618
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:44,640
I don't see you.

619
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:45,599
I just see you in this chat.

620
00:26:45,599 --> 00:26:47,680
I don't see you in that, or at least I haven't in a while.

621
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,280
Jackson, you have to host.

622
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,719
You have to read the comments

623
00:26:50,719 --> 00:26:52,319
and listen to the guests at the same time.

624
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,119
It's so easy, by the way.

625
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:57,680
No, it is.

626
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,359
Ozar Busy.

627
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,199
Good to see you from across the pond, my friend.

628
00:27:01,199 --> 00:27:05,520
It is 1230 p.m. here in the United States on the East Coast.

629
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:06,880
We tell each other what time it is.

630
00:27:08,479 --> 00:27:08,880
Yeah.

631
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:09,680
Last word on that.

632
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:14,000
I think at the end of the day, the audience drives content a lot.

633
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,319
It's the opposite of what you think.

634
00:27:16,319 --> 00:27:18,959
And I've learned this and this is my assessment of broadcasting

635
00:27:18,959 --> 00:27:21,119
is that, you know, once, you know,

636
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,719
especially if you look at like Alex Jones,

637
00:27:22,719 --> 00:27:25,119
I mean, I think he's rid of the tea leaves as well.

638
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,880
And like the support dissipates

639
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,359
and your audience is ready for new content.

640
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,079
For a while, if you cross that Rubicon,

641
00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:34,959
you cross that bridge, especially 2015, 2016,

642
00:27:34,959 --> 00:27:36,079
that is the Trump era.

643
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,599
And I decided not to take that ride.

644
00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:40,800
I didn't want that ride.

645
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:41,920
And so I'm glad I didn't

646
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,079
because I didn't have to have a massive audience

647
00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:47,920
then lose it because my analysis was against

648
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,199
whatever the herd wanted.

649
00:27:49,199 --> 00:27:50,479
So I'm glad I don't have that.

650
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,760
Probably feels like being held hostage, you know,

651
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,719
at some level, because you're going to lose your business.

652
00:27:56,719 --> 00:27:59,119
If you've got this audience, it's way behind Trump

653
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,119
and then nothing you say or do, even if you're telling the truth.

654
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:03,760
I mean, what was it?

655
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,280
What's that Mark Twain quote about?

656
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,680
It's easier to fool people than to convince people

657
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,319
they've been fooled.

658
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:10,959
Yeah, yeah.

659
00:28:10,959 --> 00:28:12,959
You know, so there's something about that.

660
00:28:12,959 --> 00:28:15,359
So what else is on the agenda, Don?

661
00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:17,359
You had a couple other things.

662
00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:18,880
Well, you know, again,

663
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,880
I think that Ashley was talking a little bit about Iran

664
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,880
and that's kind of dragging out.

665
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,880
Again, that's the center of this debate, too,

666
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,160
because I think most people were pushed away from Trump,

667
00:28:30,719 --> 00:28:34,719
the combination of the Epstein files and the Iran war.

668
00:28:34,719 --> 00:28:36,959
And you can see, and again, I'm watching that.

669
00:28:36,959 --> 00:28:39,439
I hate to keep bringing up that walk away debate,

670
00:28:39,439 --> 00:28:43,199
but it shows what the mindset of these people are now.

671
00:28:43,199 --> 00:28:46,800
They've gradually come around to Trump's way of thinking on Epstein.

672
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,920
They now believe Epstein killed himself.

673
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,079
I mean, when Epstein didn't kill himself, no one believed it.

674
00:28:54,079 --> 00:28:57,280
I mean, other than the authorities that claimed he did it,

675
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,560
literally, probably 99% of the population thought he did it.

676
00:29:01,119 --> 00:29:03,920
Now, the MAGA people say he killed himself.

677
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,119
It's amazing to watch it.

678
00:29:05,119 --> 00:29:06,239
They're all like Dan Giongino.

679
00:29:06,239 --> 00:29:07,839
So I was listening to him saying, well, you know what?

680
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,439
Where did this come all because their cult leader said that?

681
00:29:11,439 --> 00:29:13,439
So that's, and then as we talked about,

682
00:29:13,439 --> 00:29:15,680
and Peter C. Kosh isn't in the chat, I don't think,

683
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,719
but this guy, he's going to install his head of DNI,

684
00:29:20,719 --> 00:29:22,239
which was Tulsi Gabbard's old position.

685
00:29:22,239 --> 00:29:22,880
What a change.

686
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,160
Yeah, what's his name?

687
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,079
His name is Pulte after the Pulte Homes.

688
00:29:28,079 --> 00:29:29,040
Oh, Pulte Homes.

689
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:29,359
Okay.

690
00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:29,760
Oh, sure.

691
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,839
Crappy, crappy homes.

692
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:33,040
And now in charge of the homeland.

693
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,560
But apparently he's got these connections to Epstein all over the place.

694
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,239
And it's fitting because he doesn't want anybody talking about this.

695
00:29:42,239 --> 00:29:46,400
And so this has become, things have completely transformed.

696
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,560
So I don't even know what the opposition is,

697
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,839
because most of the opposition to that is,

698
00:29:51,839 --> 00:29:56,880
are these people on the left who are largely insane and hate white people.

699
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,760
And, but, you know, I have to agree with them on Israel.

700
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,280
I agree with them on the Epstein files.

701
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,119
I don't know why they feel the way they do,

702
00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:06,880
because they had no concern over the Epstein files for a long time.

703
00:30:07,439 --> 00:30:10,319
Virginia Jafri, you know, I think was murdered,

704
00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:11,920
but it wasn't until after she died,

705
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,439
they made a kind of a murder out of it,

706
00:30:13,439 --> 00:30:15,599
but they wanted nothing to do with her when she was alive.

707
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,280
They thought she, you know, but once she's dead, now they kind of use her.

708
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,599
But so it's just, with this guy installed as director of DNI,

709
00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:27,359
obviously whatever little chance we had to find out anything further.

710
00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:30,880
And people can read on my, on my sub stack.

711
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,400
I think I'm, and of course,

712
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,640
Peter Seekosh helped greatly with a lot of research there,

713
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,079
and he's got a lot more.

714
00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:39,280
But I have three, I think Epstein files, three parts I have so far.

715
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,400
And that's just what we've seen.

716
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,040
You know, we don't, there's so much more there,

717
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,400
millions and millions of pages.

718
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,959
But, you know, for people to say there's nothing there.

719
00:30:46,959 --> 00:30:50,000
And these, these MAGA people, these new MAGA people

720
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,199
were saying there's nothing there.

721
00:30:51,199 --> 00:30:55,359
And so they were making fun of the grape soda and beef jerky and stuff.

722
00:30:55,359 --> 00:30:56,079
Just read that.

723
00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:59,439
And again, you have any critical thinking at all.

724
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:03,199
These are, these are powerful people.

725
00:31:03,199 --> 00:31:05,359
They're not talking about grape soda a lot,

726
00:31:05,359 --> 00:31:06,719
because they like grape soda.

727
00:31:06,719 --> 00:31:07,839
That's ridiculous.

728
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,560
You know, they're not talking about jerking.

729
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,760
Who eats jerky?

730
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,400
Maybe homeless people, maybe, because it's cheap.

731
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:20,479
I mean, nobody, and they talked about a chef that was a friend of theirs

732
00:31:20,479 --> 00:31:24,880
that was, was, worked at a restaurant called The Cannibal.

733
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000
Nice name for a restaurant, huh?

734
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,880
And this cannibal, and they talked about Epstein

735
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,359
having jerky stored in his freezer.

736
00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:33,859
What?

737
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,280
You know what?

738
00:31:35,359 --> 00:31:38,479
At one point, the jerk, I'm going to walk the jerky over.

739
00:31:39,199 --> 00:31:42,959
Totally, they talked about, these, this is so obviously language

740
00:31:42,959 --> 00:31:44,239
that's not coded very well.

741
00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:47,359
And it doesn't, you know, same thing with pizza and pasta,

742
00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:49,040
going back to, you know, the Podesta emails.

743
00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:51,920
We're going to have pizza for about a half an hour.

744
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,640
You know, there's a, I found a pizza related map.

745
00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:55,920
What?

746
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,199
You know, what are these, these things, what are these things talking about?

747
00:31:59,199 --> 00:32:04,160
So it's just a shame that we don't have, if we just had a free press,

748
00:32:04,719 --> 00:32:08,319
so we had, instead of us talking about it, we had 60 minutes or, you know,

749
00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:11,199
nothing will happen with Barry Weiss there, but, you know,

750
00:32:11,199 --> 00:32:14,640
something like that where people would, they would expose these things.

751
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,599
But I don't know, it's, it's very, it's disillusioning.

752
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:20,400
I don't know, like Ashley said, being an anarchist,

753
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,439
I haven't officially claimed I'm an anarchist,

754
00:32:23,439 --> 00:32:26,239
but I don't know why I wouldn't be at this point

755
00:32:26,239 --> 00:32:28,000
because there's, there's no authorities.

756
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,119
There's no, what authority is there worth respecting?

757
00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:35,520
But that's, it's such a shame because it's hard to have a civilization if you don't,

758
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:38,319
if everyone doesn't respect at least some authority,

759
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,640
but we have no authority to respect the police, the schools,

760
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,839
government leaders from, from the school boards on up.

761
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,199
I mean, there's absolutely nothing to, so I don't know what the answer is, you know,

762
00:32:51,199 --> 00:32:56,800
but all we can do, I guess, is, is expose it as best we can.

763
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,439
Again, I'm kind of all over the place because you asked me what else there was,

764
00:32:59,439 --> 00:33:00,959
but I kind of expounded on it.

765
00:33:00,959 --> 00:33:04,719
There's a good point about Tulsi Gabbard and being replaced by Pulte.

766
00:33:04,719 --> 00:33:08,079
You know, Tulsi's a Iraq war veteran and look how a lot of people,

767
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:09,920
I'm not a huge fan of hers.

768
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,760
I'm not running, I'm not on the Tulsi for president bandwagon or something.

769
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,199
I'm not an occult of Tulsi, but I always thought she had interesting things to say

770
00:33:19,199 --> 00:33:21,599
and she was skeptical of foreign wars

771
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:27,119
and especially even some of the more cataclysmic policy decisions on Russia and Syria.

772
00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:28,880
She was out early on that kind of stuff

773
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,880
and really just smart analysis on what was happening with Syria.

774
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:38,079
So I gave her a lot of credibility and then she gets to that position of DNI

775
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:41,439
and one of the things that happens, we barely mentioned it on the show,

776
00:33:41,439 --> 00:33:44,319
but her office was raided by the CIA.

777
00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:48,560
And it's funny because John Ratcliffe was the head of the DNI,

778
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,479
the director of national intelligence,

779
00:33:50,479 --> 00:33:54,000
and I've debated John Ratcliffe before when he was running for Congress.

780
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,239
He didn't like me very much and now he's head of the CIA.

781
00:33:56,959 --> 00:34:00,719
And he went over to that office he once ran

782
00:34:00,719 --> 00:34:04,160
and took like 40 boxes of material that Tulsi had sourced

783
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:09,760
on trying to do disclosure on UFOs, MKUltra, JFK assassination.

784
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,280
This is all documented fact.

785
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:17,439
I mean, her office that was, lack of a better term, raided by the CIA.

786
00:34:17,439 --> 00:34:20,560
So that's not, I mean, Pulte's part of the power structure

787
00:34:21,439 --> 00:34:23,040
and that's what's so sad.

788
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,040
That's why, you know, confidence in our institutions

789
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,639
and part of this fourth turning, part of this cyclical part of history

790
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:32,080
is that that's all diminishing

791
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,959
and we're watching it in real time collapse in and on itself.

792
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,600
And you're right, I mean, it's two wings of the same bird.

793
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,760
You're talking about the Democrats or the Republicans,

794
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,399
you know, the same kind of, it's the same connections to Epstein.

795
00:34:42,399 --> 00:34:44,959
It's the same connections to the military industrial complex

796
00:34:44,959 --> 00:34:45,919
or the surveillance state.

797
00:34:46,479 --> 00:34:50,479
Totally anti-First Amendment, all about consolidation of power

798
00:34:50,479 --> 00:34:52,320
and information and narrative control.

799
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:58,000
And, you know, and I think if demographics hold up

800
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,479
and elections are somewhat real,

801
00:35:00,479 --> 00:35:03,600
then this will be the last Republican administration probably ever.

802
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:06,800
And honestly, the Republicans don't like being in power.

803
00:35:07,439 --> 00:35:09,360
And a lot of people push back on this with me.

804
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,639
They don't like power.

805
00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:15,280
What they like is they like making sure that your outrage is inert,

806
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,479
making sure that none of your pushback goes anywhere

807
00:35:20,479 --> 00:35:24,239
and they love to raise money and run on the same damn things

808
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,919
every four years or two years.

809
00:35:25,919 --> 00:35:26,800
They run on the same.

810
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,760
They run on the same stuff they did when I was a kid.

811
00:35:30,399 --> 00:35:32,399
Like in my, before I was a teenager,

812
00:35:32,399 --> 00:35:33,919
that's the same talking points.

813
00:35:34,479 --> 00:35:36,320
They are literally an operation.

814
00:35:36,879 --> 00:35:39,520
I mean, I think the Republican party has done more damage

815
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,840
than the communist party in the United States.

816
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,080
Because at the end of the day, nothing happens.

817
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,639
And if you vote for a Republican to end a war, you get more war.

818
00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:53,360
You vote them to lower regulation, you get more regulation.

819
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,919
The Republicans are only there to conserve what the progressives

820
00:35:57,919 --> 00:36:00,320
and the communists and the Marxists create.

821
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,560
They don't do anything.

822
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,000
And it's sad because Texas, we missed the boat on a lot of stuff.

823
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,919
We had the same leadership over and over again.

824
00:36:07,919 --> 00:36:11,120
And every four years, somebody runs on border safety, right?

825
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:12,959
You're in control.

826
00:36:12,959 --> 00:36:15,360
Like, I don't know why, you know, it's like,

827
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,919
and it's the same thing with the presidency.

828
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:23,199
I mean, back in, what was it, 2007, George W. Bush,

829
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:25,679
you know, they were having so much groundswell.

830
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:27,600
This is back, this is a different demographic America.

831
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,520
There's a little history lessons, ladies and gentlemen.

832
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,879
You know, there was a push and it showed up in Texas

833
00:36:32,879 --> 00:36:36,719
at Baylor University, I believe, but Condoleezza Rice talked about it.

834
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,120
And it was the North American union.

835
00:36:40,159 --> 00:36:44,320
That was a stated goal of the power structure

836
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,719
was to unite Mexico and Canada and link it through the trans-Texas corridor.

837
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,879
And they had billboards up here in Texas, you know, pushing that,

838
00:36:52,879 --> 00:36:57,120
like there was a lot of stuff on the ballots for pushing the trans-Texas corridor.

839
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,320
And it ultimately didn't happen because we still had enough people

840
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,320
in the state here and in the country that were,

841
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,560
now sadly, a lot of them have passed away by now, but they pushed back on it.

842
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,320
So at the same time they pushed back on that,

843
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,840
then there was legislation to build a border fence.

844
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,320
If you remember that, that was 2007, never happened.

845
00:37:18,879 --> 00:37:22,320
And even Democrats, you know, even Hillary Clinton voted for it.

846
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,560
Like back in the city, we're in a totally different America.

847
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,760
They had to bow somewhat to demographics,

848
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,520
but those demographics are gone or waning, you know?

849
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,719
So it's like the demographic of my grandmother is 91.

850
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,919
Like that's the silent generation of Americans that grew up during the depression.

851
00:37:37,919 --> 00:37:44,959
They pushed back on the North American Union, the Euro, the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

852
00:37:44,959 --> 00:37:47,679
They pushed back on the trans-Texas corridor, all of that.

853
00:37:48,399 --> 00:37:50,080
But that's no longer there.

854
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,679
You still get, you know, people that want sovereignty and all that,

855
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:57,840
and they'll donate, but it's not the resistance that it once was.

856
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,239
And I think that's the service that the Republican Party does

857
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,800
for whatever the handlers of America is,

858
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,280
that they just make sure that they absorb it.

859
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,600
And then I call them hospice care conservatives,

860
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,479
because they want to make sure you're comfortable as your country dies.

861
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:14,879
Controversial?

862
00:38:14,879 --> 00:38:15,280
Yeah.

863
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,439
Is that my too hard on the Republicans?

864
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:24,000
No, I think certainly with the Republicans, you know, I call them the stupid party.

865
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,399
I think, was it Joe Soberan who made that up?

866
00:38:28,399 --> 00:38:29,919
But somebody called them the stupid party.

867
00:38:29,919 --> 00:38:32,800
And it was, was it John Stuart Mill?

868
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,560
I think that was, wasn't that who said that there's two parties?

869
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,439
It was talking about England.

870
00:38:37,439 --> 00:38:38,399
There was two parties.

871
00:38:38,399 --> 00:38:40,560
There was the dangerous party and the stupid party.

872
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:40,959
Yeah, yeah.

873
00:38:40,959 --> 00:38:42,320
It's not much of a stupid party.

874
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,879
Yeah, we pretty much say evil and stupid, but they're other, they're blends ever.

875
00:38:46,879 --> 00:38:49,679
So there's, there's a lot of evil in the stupid and a lot of stupid in the evil too.

876
00:38:49,679 --> 00:38:53,120
But yeah, that's, that's the, and you can see, you're right.

877
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,239
Nothing ever happens.

878
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,919
And the, Jack Stevier talks about the uniparty.

879
00:38:57,919 --> 00:38:59,199
Yeah, we're all talking about that.

880
00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:05,600
And, and when those people that are still supporting MAGA, they, we, again,

881
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,399
every election is the most important election of our lifetimes.

882
00:39:08,399 --> 00:39:09,919
You know, we have to get to midterms.

883
00:39:09,919 --> 00:39:15,199
And, and, and nobody says, well, what, what do you, Trump has both houses of Congress now.

884
00:39:15,919 --> 00:39:17,360
He had it for the first two years.

885
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,360
He has the Supreme court that supposedly, you know, he installed, he has a majority there.

886
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,239
He's got everything.

887
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,560
And nothing is getting it done.

888
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,360
It's that bad stuff because he didn't want any of that stuff then.

889
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,919
Because he knows the Republic cucks, the Lindsey Grahams, who just, you know,

890
00:39:31,919 --> 00:39:35,760
just to the, if they're really counting the vote in South Carolina, that's, that's,

891
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:42,399
that's really sad that if they are really voting legitimately for that guy to keep continue.

892
00:39:42,399 --> 00:39:47,280
I mean, how much walking around Disneyland with a little fairy wand or something by himself,

893
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,879
just what does he have to do?

894
00:39:48,879 --> 00:39:51,360
I mean, how ridiculous does that guy have to be?

895
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,479
But telling people, he's, I'm going to go back to South Carolina and tell him,

896
00:39:54,479 --> 00:39:56,000
we're going to send your boys to Iran.

897
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,399
It can't wait to vote him in, but he just got voted back.

898
00:40:00,399 --> 00:40:01,520
Massey didn't, but he did.

899
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:09,120
So, but yeah, so this, we look at it's, it's what's, what's going to be different

900
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,399
if the Democrats take control, maybe they'll impeach Trump again.

901
00:40:12,399 --> 00:40:17,360
I don't know, but it's, it's, it's so stupid because nothing ever,

902
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,080
the only things that get done are bad things.

903
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,040
He said, I've been following politics all my life.

904
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,040
And the only halfway decent piece of legislation I've ever seen was the

905
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,679
freedom of information act in the seventies.

906
00:40:30,399 --> 00:40:34,239
And even that it's crippled and they don't, they don't pay attention to it half the time.

907
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:40,959
One piece of legislation in my entire life that I think benefited, nothing good, nothing good.

908
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,320
Mostly nothing happens because usually no legislation or just something to further and

909
00:40:46,879 --> 00:40:49,040
increase the profits that people already have too much.

910
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,479
But nothing, you know, when Trump made all those promises,

911
00:40:52,479 --> 00:40:55,840
he got people excited and he's delivered on nothing.

912
00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:01,600
Just this year, since last year, $5,000 doge checks, the tariff rebate checks.

913
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,280
I don't know how much they were supposed to be.

914
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,719
And now he says, when did I say that?

915
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,399
And his people look at him saying, and say, oh, he didn't say that.

916
00:41:08,399 --> 00:41:09,520
He didn't say that.

917
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:10,800
The emperor's wearing no clothes.

918
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,120
Yeah.

919
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:18,479
The gas, the gas lighter and the gas lit get together to read, to read paper over the past.

920
00:41:18,479 --> 00:41:19,040
I love that.

921
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,159
That's that's, that's peak mental illness in America.

922
00:41:22,879 --> 00:41:24,239
Yeah, that is.

923
00:41:24,399 --> 00:41:25,120
Go ahead.

924
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,040
Ashley, you had the chance to talk.

925
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,879
Well, I just wanted to say that one of the things that I have wondered about this entire time is,

926
00:41:34,479 --> 00:41:42,399
was there a goal to completely disseminate and destroy what was the Republican party?

927
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:48,959
And not that even, not that I even agree with, you know, the old school stuff, like some of it,

928
00:41:48,959 --> 00:41:53,919
I, I did agree with, but basically because I do feel like it's two wings of the same bird.

929
00:41:53,919 --> 00:41:59,280
I don't subscribe to that, but if you had truly a principled Republican party at one time,

930
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,479
which I don't know that we did, but maybe it was a little bit more than we have now.

931
00:42:02,479 --> 00:42:07,439
But if you look at the evolution of that, that party has been splintered.

932
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:13,760
And I have wondered if that was from some sort of a management perspective.

933
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,239
This is just my speculation, but the party is shattered.

934
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:23,199
You used to have some people that were in agreement about some things,

935
00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:27,679
but then with the introduction of Trump, especially you had never Trumpers.

936
00:42:27,679 --> 00:42:31,520
You had MAGA, you then had former MAGA.

937
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:37,360
You have whatever would be people that are maybe semi traditionally conservative,

938
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,479
whatever that looks like.

939
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:44,479
And then of course you had a huge opposition on the left to president Trump,

940
00:42:44,479 --> 00:42:47,520
especially in God talks about this in his first,

941
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,199
they were trying to impeach him every day, coming and going every single day.

942
00:42:51,199 --> 00:42:53,679
And now that rhetoric has really tamped down

943
00:42:53,679 --> 00:42:56,959
because a lot of them are also Zionists on the left.

944
00:42:56,959 --> 00:43:01,679
And there's some division that has happened on the left over the issue of Zionism.

945
00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:10,639
But the Republican party is really completely neutered or dispersed or shattered

946
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,159
compared to what it used to be.

947
00:43:14,159 --> 00:43:17,520
And I have wondered if that is, I don't know,

948
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:23,120
maybe it's just the nature of the beast as we are continuing in these insane times.

949
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,199
But if there was a purpose to that and another piece of rhetoric that I've been hearing,

950
00:43:27,199 --> 00:43:30,320
and this was a clip from Tucker Carlson this week,

951
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:35,040
and they're talking about the failure of America.

952
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:40,800
So Tony, you had brought up this idea, I've called it like the North American technate.

953
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,439
And I wonder if these things are playing together.

954
00:43:45,919 --> 00:43:50,879
If this is, so it's just like with Hillary's healthcare idea

955
00:43:50,879 --> 00:43:54,080
for whatever her healthcare program was called.

956
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,840
It did not pass at that time, but then it did pass under Obamacare.

957
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,840
So then we're introducing these ideas into the ether

958
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,080
because we are moving that Overton window.

959
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,080
We're doing some predictive programming, whatever that looks like.

960
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,159
And we have so many moving pieces here.

961
00:44:10,159 --> 00:44:14,479
But I think it feels very clear to many of us that what we do have

962
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:20,959
is a removal of America from the number one platform, right?

963
00:44:20,959 --> 00:44:24,879
It is being made very clear to us in a lot of ways

964
00:44:24,879 --> 00:44:27,679
that America is no longer the superpower.

965
00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:31,520
We heard that in rhetoric with the Iran conflict,

966
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,199
they don't dare call it a war.

967
00:44:33,199 --> 00:44:37,840
And people use the term, I heard this several times.

968
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,600
And that's one of the things when I'm trying to listen

969
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:44,000
throughout the week about what's going on is any new like catchphrases.

970
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:49,679
So one of them was that we created a new superpower with Iran, right?

971
00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:53,919
Which of course they are an important part of BRICS.

972
00:44:53,919 --> 00:44:56,959
And it is well established out there

973
00:44:56,959 --> 00:45:00,080
that they have a good relationship with Russia and China.

974
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,159
But all that to say, when I heard that clip from Tucker,

975
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:06,320
that basically the United States is clear

976
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,439
that the United States is not the world superpower anymore.

977
00:45:09,439 --> 00:45:13,840
So I'm just wondering how all of these things are factoring in

978
00:45:13,919 --> 00:45:15,280
to where we're headed.

979
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,919
And of course, I do look at Trump as an absolutely key piece of that.

980
00:45:19,919 --> 00:45:23,280
And I think to myself, well, he was involved in professional wrestling.

981
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,479
He is one of the best bad guys ever.

982
00:45:26,479 --> 00:45:27,760
And he doesn't care.

983
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,600
He has no incentive to care.

984
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:30,560
He has no incentive.

985
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,280
People are like, well, we have the midterms coming up.

986
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,479
Why does he care?

987
00:45:34,479 --> 00:45:37,280
He's going to be done in two or whatever,

988
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,199
two and a half years now that he has left.

989
00:45:39,199 --> 00:45:43,120
He's in his 80s, like his family is set up in positions of power.

990
00:45:43,919 --> 00:45:45,600
They have billions of dollars now.

991
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:47,679
Why do they care?

992
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:50,959
And there's no principle in the Republican Party whatsoever.

993
00:45:50,959 --> 00:45:52,639
So what are we even doing here?

994
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:54,879
No, it's a good point.

995
00:45:54,879 --> 00:45:59,439
And even Jackson T. Barrett put out a phrase in the last chat or two,

996
00:45:59,439 --> 00:46:01,439
was talking about managed decline.

997
00:46:01,439 --> 00:46:05,280
That's a phrase that came up in 2016 from the Hillary Clinton campaign.

998
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,600
And you heard that a lot through the power structure.

999
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,120
And you don't hear it much anymore.

1000
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,879
But it was managed decline.

1001
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,399
We're going to make sure that this wane of our superpower

1002
00:46:14,399 --> 00:46:16,879
influenced the hegemony of the United States,

1003
00:46:16,879 --> 00:46:19,199
the dollar dominance, the military dominance.

1004
00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:21,760
We're going to manage that decline instead of saying,

1005
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,479
well, how do we have the next American century?

1006
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,800
That was given up a long time ago.

1007
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,479
There's even in the chat, they're mentioning

1008
00:46:28,479 --> 00:46:31,439
Zygmunt Brzezinski and the technocracy.

1009
00:46:32,399 --> 00:46:36,560
You know, all of the stuff that was transferred after 1973

1010
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:42,800
to China, to the East, our technology, our trade,

1011
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,120
all the stuff that happened to us post Nixon era.

1012
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,040
And so it's interesting, we're in this decline, which is by design.

1013
00:46:52,959 --> 00:46:56,479
Nobody's talking anymore about how we can turn the engine back on of America.

1014
00:46:56,479 --> 00:46:57,840
It wouldn't be that hard.

1015
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,280
Honestly, if you wanted to compete in today's world,

1016
00:47:02,159 --> 00:47:05,919
well, we would eliminate income tax, corporate and individual.

1017
00:47:05,919 --> 00:47:07,120
We just turn the engine back on.

1018
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,159
They'd be catapulting money into this country.

1019
00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:11,760
There'd be so much stuff being built.

1020
00:47:12,399 --> 00:47:15,679
You could flip that switch, but we can't because we have treaties

1021
00:47:16,639 --> 00:47:18,320
with the UN and others.

1022
00:47:18,879 --> 00:47:23,520
We've surrendered our sovereignty to these Marxian ideas

1023
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,520
about income tax and regulation and all this other stuff,

1024
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,120
which is total treason.

1025
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,760
But if we wanted to turn America back on, we certainly could.

1026
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,280
And the jobs would come back.

1027
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,639
The money would flood back.

1028
00:47:34,639 --> 00:47:39,040
We could go after, you know, make sure we're reforming the justice system.

1029
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,000
The First Amendment, like internal workings would be,

1030
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,239
would set us up for the next two or 300 years.

1031
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,919
Like we could literally outpace everybody by leaning into freedom

1032
00:47:48,479 --> 00:47:52,479
and leaning into personal liberty, leading into humanity.

1033
00:47:52,479 --> 00:47:53,439
But we don't do that.

1034
00:47:53,439 --> 00:47:54,479
So that's the tell.

1035
00:47:54,479 --> 00:47:56,159
Like it's not a hard formula.

1036
00:47:56,159 --> 00:48:00,879
Stop the wars, deregulate, cut the income tax and let people go to work.

1037
00:48:00,879 --> 00:48:02,320
Let us build something again.

1038
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,479
Stop screwing with the market, you know, stop pricing people out of energy.

1039
00:48:06,479 --> 00:48:07,840
Let the things flow.

1040
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,760
There's nothing wrong with how everything works.

1041
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,800
It's just the power structure is trying to kill us.

1042
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:13,679
And that's it.

1043
00:48:13,679 --> 00:48:15,760
There's not a good explanation.

1044
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,719
Like if you know, like Trump said, by the way, I covered this on my show.

1045
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:20,719
Trump said he loves inflation.

1046
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:21,760
Did anybody catch that?

1047
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,199
Yes, he did.

1048
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:29,760
So people die, people die when you when you look at the metrics.

1049
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,159
If the if the cost of living goes up for people on fixed income, they die.

1050
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,320
When I mean, they have to choose between meals and medicine.

1051
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,800
It's why he's got to know that.

1052
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:41,840
I mean, is he dumb?

1053
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,520
Like, but no, I think it's at some level these people know that stuff.

1054
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,320
They say callous things that can you imagine that come out of my mouth?

1055
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:54,479
Like this is a good that people are going to be forced to not take their prescriptions

1056
00:48:54,479 --> 00:48:58,320
or whatever, because, you know, the they they have to choose between keeping their

1057
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,560
house warm or cool or whatever, because the price of energy, it's just truly disgusting.

1058
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,919
These aren't these aren't really complicated issues.

1059
00:49:05,919 --> 00:49:12,159
We're just not doing the right things to keep people in a mindset of of getting out

1060
00:49:12,159 --> 00:49:16,639
of fear and into doing something and pursuing our God given talents.

1061
00:49:16,639 --> 00:49:17,600
It's just really sad.

1062
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:18,959
It is.

1063
00:49:18,959 --> 00:49:22,399
And if I could just jump in really quick, and that's one of the things that I consider

1064
00:49:22,399 --> 00:49:29,520
to be a super powerful tool of even if we want to look at the tech companies alone,

1065
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:36,560
if you look at algorithmic manipulation that keeps people divided, like what if we pulled

1066
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,959
up the exact same post, are we all going to see the same comments or not?

1067
00:49:40,959 --> 00:49:46,560
And we may get comments that are skewing more towards our particular echo chamber.

1068
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,120
So that is very powerful in today's day and time.

1069
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,479
And I think that that is one of the major tools to keep people divided.

1070
00:49:52,479 --> 00:49:56,399
We saw how it was weaponized, especially during COVID times.

1071
00:49:56,399 --> 00:50:01,600
But to your point, Tony, regulation is somebody who owns a business yourself.

1072
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:08,800
If you look at the regulation and the BS that a small business owner has to deal with,

1073
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,280
it is absolutely insane.

1074
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,600
Even in small town America, and like you said, it's not hard.

1075
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,600
Just remove some of the regulations on regular people.

1076
00:50:20,159 --> 00:50:25,919
If we could stop divisive algorithm or whatever, or even come together and be like,

1077
00:50:25,919 --> 00:50:30,320
we're spending less time complaining on Facebook or whatever that looks like, I agree with you.

1078
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,520
There's still a lot of hope.

1079
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,199
It doesn't have to be like this.

1080
00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:40,080
And I think that's why it's so frustrating is to see what just feels so intentional of

1081
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:45,840
the cranking on the regular person to make life more difficult for them.

1082
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,639
And it's especially disgusting because it is off the backs of them

1083
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:53,040
that all of this stuff is funded.

1084
00:50:53,040 --> 00:51:01,919
And of course, the equally and even more disgusting thing is when somebody like Lindsey Graham

1085
00:51:01,919 --> 00:51:05,120
has the rhetoric of, we're going to war with Iran,

1086
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:10,719
they gladly will send you and your sons and your daughters to die.

1087
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,800
It is for nothing.

1088
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,000
It's just disgusting.

1089
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,040
It's just so frustrating.

1090
00:51:17,919 --> 00:51:18,879
Yeah, absolutely.

1091
00:51:20,479 --> 00:51:25,280
Trump said what Tony said and what you said, he said a lot of these things.

1092
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:30,239
And basically, that's why some of us, I was a Trump agnostic.

1093
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,520
He said crazy stuff, but in between, he said a lot of the right things.

1094
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:38,399
And one of those, abolish income taxes, get rid of them, and replace them with tariffs,

1095
00:51:38,399 --> 00:51:41,040
which is that's what we did until 1913.

1096
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,159
Great idea.

1097
00:51:42,159 --> 00:51:43,520
And he instituted the tariffs.

1098
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,840
But as we talked about, he did it ass backwards because he didn't bring the industry back first.

1099
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,760
You have to have competition first.

1100
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:50,639
He did it backwards.

1101
00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:52,239
And so he got criticized for it, whatever.

1102
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,199
But the idea was right.

1103
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,760
Doge was a great idea.

1104
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,679
That's the kind of thing Ron Paul would have done.

1105
00:51:57,679 --> 00:51:58,879
We all love Ron Paul.

1106
00:51:58,879 --> 00:52:00,000
That's why when he criticized.

1107
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,679
And Ron Paul wasn't an advisor to Elon Musk.

1108
00:52:03,679 --> 00:52:08,560
So I was really, you know, I'm still a Trump agnostic then, but I'm saying that this is

1109
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:09,679
looking good.

1110
00:52:09,679 --> 00:52:14,560
So for it to all come crashing down like that and nothing happened, they started out as

1111
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:15,439
if they were going to do it.

1112
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,919
And I said, well, OK, this is great.

1113
00:52:17,919 --> 00:52:18,560
He's trying to get it.

1114
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,320
And of course, he completely flipped.

1115
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,239
And then we're 180 degrees away from that.

1116
00:52:22,879 --> 00:52:30,159
And, you know, at this point, again, I have no argument against the anarchists.

1117
00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:33,280
I don't know what point, you know, it's a game.

1118
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,280
The Democrats and Republicans, they just, you know, campaign to fix each other's messes.

1119
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,320
Nothing ever gets done.

1120
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,760
And, you know, every election is the most crucial.

1121
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,360
And you can't stop them from voting.

1122
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,000
And I think a lot less people will vote now.

1123
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,800
But I don't know, seeing those MAGA people, it's, you know, it's disgusting.

1124
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,000
You're going to be the reason why we lose, because you're not voting for Trump.

1125
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,840
It's for the Republicans.

1126
00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:00,800
It's like, so he can have the House and Senate again and do nothing.

1127
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,919
And, you know, his first term, he had the House and Senate the first two years, too,

1128
00:53:03,919 --> 00:53:04,560
and did nothing.

1129
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,399
So I don't, you can't have any more than Trump has right now.

1130
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,560
He has all the key members.

1131
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:15,199
And it's, but again, what we, what I said all along, when I write the story of Trump

1132
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:18,879
and Stein eventually, when it peters out, I have a lot of information on it.

1133
00:53:18,879 --> 00:53:21,520
It'll be that, you know, this is a one man revolution.

1134
00:53:22,159 --> 00:53:24,959
It never, he never brought along anybody else.

1135
00:53:24,959 --> 00:53:29,600
You had people like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Massey and people, you could say that

1136
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,479
Matt Gaetz were brought along kind of with him, Freedom Caucus.

1137
00:53:34,479 --> 00:53:38,000
But most of them are gone now and Trump attacked them.

1138
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,959
But you didn't see Republicans transform.

1139
00:53:40,959 --> 00:53:43,760
You still have the Lindsey Grahams and little Marco Rubio.

1140
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,199
And now, interestingly enough, J.D. Vance, we're going to talk about that a little bit.

1141
00:53:47,199 --> 00:53:49,280
They seem to be turning against him.

1142
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,520
Apparently, he's not as enough of a committed Zionist.

1143
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,919
I'm hearing lots of people on that saying, you know, he's, and I don't know what he has to do.

1144
00:53:55,919 --> 00:54:00,959
He's friends with Peter Thiel, but apparently he's not committed enough to Zionism.

1145
00:54:00,959 --> 00:54:03,360
But that's the Republican Party.

1146
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,719
So this, when Trump goes, I said, it's always going to be the answer when he leaves.

1147
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,399
What are you going to get after it?

1148
00:54:08,399 --> 00:54:12,639
Especially, not that Vance is good, but I think Vance will be in the category of Trump,

1149
00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:15,760
where he'll probably say a lot of good things and get people's hopes up.

1150
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,840
Marco Rubio is not going to, everybody knows what he is, like Nikki Haley.

1151
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,000
He's going to be back to the Bush type Republican.

1152
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:28,320
So if we go back to that and you still get 50, 70 million people that will vote for those

1153
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:34,399
Republicans, then the whole thing was, if Trump served a purpose, it was to show how

1154
00:54:34,399 --> 00:54:35,280
bad everything was.

1155
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,560
And ultimately, of course, he was a phony too, the biggest fraud of all.

1156
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,719
But at least it served a purpose.

1157
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:45,280
But if you go back after that and you can't stop yourself from voting for the Marco Rubios,

1158
00:54:46,159 --> 00:54:48,719
or the Lindsey Grahams, it served no purpose.

1159
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,959
And it will just go quietly into the night.

1160
00:54:50,959 --> 00:54:56,399
And it lowered politics, the discourse down to the gutter level.

1161
00:54:56,399 --> 00:54:56,959
But that's it.

1162
00:54:56,959 --> 00:54:57,840
It changed nothing.

1163
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,719
Ultimately, if Trump left tomorrow, what was changed?

1164
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:03,120
Nothing.

1165
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,199
You had some kind of, yeah, gas prices went up.

1166
00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:10,399
And you had the same kind of, yeah, exactly.

1167
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:14,320
Go ahead, Don.

1168
00:55:14,399 --> 00:55:17,840
Well, Piper Fogel says, how do I know what I'm seeing on social media that MAGA is true,

1169
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:18,159
Don?

1170
00:55:18,159 --> 00:55:22,159
Well, I'm just judging, as a prop, again, I'm just judging that the people there, and

1171
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:23,360
some of them are influencers.

1172
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,439
Some of them, I've never heard of them.

1173
00:55:25,439 --> 00:55:28,159
But there's a lot of people that are still buying.

1174
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:31,840
And those walkaway debates were interesting because I think that's the mindset.

1175
00:55:32,399 --> 00:55:36,159
And I still have friends that I agree with pretty much on everything except Israel.

1176
00:55:36,879 --> 00:55:39,520
And they can't get past that.

1177
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,199
And so they can't get past me opposing it.

1178
00:55:43,199 --> 00:55:45,280
But again, I think that's a snag.

1179
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:50,959
And people, when you start saying Epstein killed himself, which these people are doing

1180
00:55:50,959 --> 00:55:55,760
now, and you're not talking about Doge, you're not talking about any of the stuff that Trump

1181
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,639
said he was going to do, the $5,000 checks, the tariff test, nothing.

1182
00:56:00,639 --> 00:56:03,360
You're just left with Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon.

1183
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:04,239
That's what it's become.

1184
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:05,840
So it's unfortunate.

1185
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,919
And I think the whole purpose of the Trump-insigned project was to kill off any potential third

1186
00:56:09,919 --> 00:56:10,560
party movement.

1187
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,520
Because I don't think that'll ever happen now.

1188
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,120
And you can see everybody splintered.

1189
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,719
I don't think all it would do is, I guess, ensure Democrats winning all the time.

1190
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:19,919
Because I don't think you can.

1191
00:56:20,879 --> 00:56:25,679
Certainly, I can't believe you're going to get many Trump voters to vote for the Marco

1192
00:56:25,679 --> 00:56:26,320
Rubio.

1193
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:27,120
But I could be wrong.

1194
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,679
You know, they never surprised me with their gullibility.

1195
00:56:32,639 --> 00:56:38,560
Yeah, I mean, I'm one of the people in the I think it's even more disappointing or even

1196
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,919
a darker view that I think the Massey election was legit.

1197
00:56:41,919 --> 00:56:43,120
I think voters did that.

1198
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,080
I mean, I have that because of my own experience.

1199
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,439
I know voters pretty well.

1200
00:56:47,439 --> 00:56:48,560
Well, it's the saddest thing.

1201
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:49,679
We should hope for fraud.

1202
00:56:49,679 --> 00:56:55,280
Because if they really voted Lindsey Graham back in and voted Thomas Massey out, you couldn't

1203
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,120
have a better moratorium on something.

1204
00:57:00,479 --> 00:57:02,959
And what they did is they voted down.

1205
00:57:02,959 --> 00:57:07,199
They gave a big thumbs down to all of Trump's best rhetoric.

1206
00:57:07,919 --> 00:57:13,520
And they gave a big thumbs up to rhinoism while calling Massey a rhino, which is ridiculous.

1207
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:15,600
I have a I'll close with this.

1208
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:16,399
I have an idea.

1209
00:57:16,399 --> 00:57:19,120
You mentioned Lindsey Graham earlier in the show, too.

1210
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,919
And maybe we what about a coffee table book?

1211
00:57:21,919 --> 00:57:26,560
We should get a journalist go back and find every like little old lady over the years

1212
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:32,399
that tried to set Lindsey Graham up with their daughter or granddaughter and profile of each

1213
00:57:32,399 --> 00:57:33,280
one he turned down.

1214
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,199
We're just kind of surprised.

1215
00:57:37,199 --> 00:57:39,360
We could just have a coffee table book.

1216
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,959
Yeah, something like that.

1217
00:57:40,959 --> 00:57:42,239
That would be entertaining.

1218
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:44,159
Well, I can't go to the chat.

1219
00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:45,760
We went past time.

1220
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,199
I don't have Billy here to guide me through that.

1221
00:57:49,199 --> 00:57:53,040
So next week, we'll talk to the chat.

1222
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,000
We'll shout out the chat.

1223
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:59,360
And then if you leave us a five star review, you can say anything you want.

1224
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,439
As long as it's five star, we will read it on air.

1225
00:58:01,439 --> 00:58:02,959
No new reviews this week.

1226
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,320
So go and do that.

1227
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,479
It helps the algorithm and people can find us for good or for ill.

1228
00:58:08,479 --> 00:58:10,959
And actually, what do you think about every once in a while?

1229
00:58:10,959 --> 00:58:13,840
Somebody asked me if I'm going to run for office, then I'll go on a podcast.

1230
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,800
I make sure that I do scorched earth where I can never go back.

1231
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,600
Do you appreciate that sort of honesty?

1232
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,800
I very much appreciate that sort of honesty.

1233
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,280
And that's how I try to live my life.

1234
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:31,040
You know, it's not easy being trying to be authentic and honest and not put on airs and

1235
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,439
not be a grifter.

1236
00:58:33,439 --> 00:58:39,199
It's somewhat, you know, because like you said, as far as like trying to gain audience or

1237
00:58:39,199 --> 00:58:41,760
whatever, but I appreciate it very much.

1238
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:48,159
And I think it's it is difficult in this world to try to keep considering what we're seeing,

1239
00:58:48,159 --> 00:58:53,199
processing it and trying to live in reality and live in honesty and speak the honesty

1240
00:58:53,199 --> 00:58:54,159
as best as you can.

1241
00:58:54,159 --> 00:58:55,520
So where can people find you?

1242
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:56,879
They want to find your work.

1243
00:58:56,879 --> 00:58:58,639
They can find me nights of the storm.

1244
00:58:58,639 --> 00:59:02,080
My own show, Think, Change, Repeat over on Rumble and YouTube.

1245
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:09,120
And I'm on X, but I have even less interaction on X than Don was getting when his when he

1246
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,399
didn't have access to his account.

1247
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:13,840
Oh, then you're like me.

1248
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,320
I think I have almost six thousand followers.

1249
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:22,320
And last time I checked, I don't think my show got a like or a retweet last week live.

1250
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,479
So that's the algorithm ghetto.

1251
00:59:24,479 --> 00:59:28,320
Yeah, I'm I am I am dispatched to the phantom zone.

1252
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,439
Donald Jeffries, people can find you where, sir.

1253
00:59:32,159 --> 00:59:34,320
Well, first, Angel Blue, thanks for all your kind words.

1254
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,199
She's saying all this stuff in the chat about me.

1255
00:59:37,199 --> 00:59:37,840
I appreciate that.

1256
00:59:38,959 --> 00:59:42,560
Substack is the only place I'm not being shadowed by Donald Jeffries at Substack dot com.

1257
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,479
I protest just like my podcast.

1258
00:59:44,479 --> 00:59:46,320
I'm finishing up a piece on the data centers.

1259
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,719
I'll be publishing that later today.

1260
00:59:49,439 --> 00:59:50,479
I'm back on X.

1261
00:59:50,479 --> 00:59:52,320
Mother's Day miracle brought me back somehow.

1262
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,800
It's at Don Jeffries for what it's worth.

1263
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,320
You know, I get limited to what kind of impact.

1264
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,719
But Primetime 99, Alex, I did like something I posted the other day.

1265
01:00:02,719 --> 01:00:03,360
So that was cool.

1266
01:00:03,919 --> 01:00:06,159
So he's he made he's off of Blaze TV.

1267
01:00:06,159 --> 01:00:07,919
So, you know, he was on my show once.

1268
01:00:07,919 --> 01:00:12,719
So maybe maybe he'll be back to appearing with the likes of me again.

1269
01:00:12,719 --> 01:00:13,679
So that would be cool.

1270
01:00:13,679 --> 01:00:16,800
But and of course, all my books are out there, all ten books.

1271
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,719
And people can find out more than they want to know about me if they do a simple search.

1272
01:00:20,719 --> 01:00:23,360
Yeah, we got to get Don on with Tucker Carlson.

1273
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:24,080
It's a must.

1274
01:00:24,639 --> 01:00:24,959
All right.

1275
01:00:24,959 --> 01:00:26,239
We're going to maybe a team effort.

1276
01:00:26,239 --> 01:00:28,000
Maybe we'll get a petition online.

1277
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:32,000
Something if his book will start with start with with Jimmy Doerr.

1278
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,760
Because I mean, Jimmy Doerr has two of my books.

1279
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:34,879
He's not selling my books.

1280
01:00:34,879 --> 01:00:37,040
But, you know, I don't know why I haven't been on that.

1281
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,320
I have connections to him, too.

1282
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:39,439
But it just doesn't happen.

1283
01:00:39,439 --> 01:00:40,239
I don't know.

1284
01:00:40,239 --> 01:00:44,399
Don, you know, you should have had a larger ego as much as I don't like ego.

1285
01:00:44,399 --> 01:00:46,399
You just need you're still Don Jeffries.

1286
01:00:46,399 --> 01:00:47,840
Don't ever forget that, Don.

1287
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,360
And I don't think our audience does.

1288
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:50,800
Don's got some amazing work.

1289
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,159
It's changed my life.

1290
01:00:52,159 --> 01:00:52,800
All right, folks.

1291
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:54,560
America Unplugged.

1292
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:55,840
We're here every Saturday.

1293
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:56,639
Give us a review.

1294
01:00:56,639 --> 01:00:57,280
Five stars.

1295
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:58,159
We appreciate it.

1296
01:00:58,159 --> 01:00:59,760
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1297
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,520
You can find the show online.

1298
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,040
I mean, anywhere podcasts are found.

1299
01:01:03,919 --> 01:01:05,040
Tell your friends about us.

1300
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,159
We'd appreciate it.

1301
01:01:06,159 --> 01:01:07,840
We'll be back next week.

1302
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:12,159
Billy Ray Valentine, hopefully successful time travel experiment.

1303
01:01:12,159 --> 01:01:14,800
And again, Billy, go see me at 2010.

1304
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:15,840
I'm in Rowlett, Texas.

1305
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,399
Bring me information on Bitcoin.

1306
01:01:18,399 --> 01:01:19,679
OK, I need that.

1307
01:01:20,399 --> 01:01:21,760
We'll see you guys next week.

1308
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,239
Same time, same channel.

1309
01:01:24,239 --> 01:01:25,840
Be here and burn the place down.

1310
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:26,639
It's OK.

1311
01:01:26,639 --> 01:01:30,399
I insured I insured it last week, so we'll be able to collect on that.

1312
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:40,000
See you soon.