#224 America Unplugged -War on Reality: The Correspondents’ Dinner Shooting — Staged or Incompetence?

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Donald Jeffries, author of Hidden History and Survival of the Richest,

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host of The Donald Jeffries Show, Billy Ray Valentine,

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host of the Infinite Fringe Podcast, researcher, truth seeker from the Bronx,

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New York, Tony Arterburn, radio host, combat veteran, precious metals analyst, and alt historian.

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Together, they take on the headlines of the week, Decode the disinformation

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and plow through the mainstream propaganda.

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Unauthorized. Unscripted.

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Unintimidated. Unintimidated. This is America Unplugged.

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All right, what's going on, everybody? War on Reality Report.

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It is America Unplugged. We got the usual suspects with here.

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With us here today, Mr. Tony Arterburn. How are you back from the Bitcoin conference

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doing his thing over there?

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What's going on? Say what's up to the people. It's good to be back. Good to see you and Don.

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I'm excited today and particularly thankful because I just hit a million air

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miles with Spirit. I got a card.

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I'm ready to fly. I'm going to come see you. I mean, I'm just, I'm elated.

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Is everything cool? Yeah. I got the million. I've got the million sky miles

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with Spirit. I'm going to come see you.

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Go over there and tell me how it goes when you get there. I'd love to.

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Okay. I'm going to book it as soon as I'm done with the show.

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Appreciate it. Nothing can ruin my enthusiasm. Can we get Don? Oh, I'd love to see Don.

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Let's get him hooked up. You have enough. We should all just fly. Yeah, we could.

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Let's fly down. We were going to go to Comet Ping Pong Pizza, remember?

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Dope. Let's do it. Let's do it. Fantastic. Yeah.

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Don Jeffries, the legendary who has had many a pizza at Comet Ping Pong. By the way, that's true.

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That was, we were going to be doing a doc. Remember? That was 2001.

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I still have my footage, and I'm not done with that. That footage will not go to waste.

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But the end of the footage, the end of the documentary was supposed to be all

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of us having lunch at Comet Ping Pong.

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And, of course, COVID hit, made that incredibly impossible to do,

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and then everything kind of fell apart.

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Plus, with new developments and everything else, all of that stuff needs to

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be updated. But I still plan on using that footage. Regardless,

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I did go to Comet Ping Pong a month ago. I think it was in April.

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A couple of weeks ago, right, Don? I sent you guys breaks. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I passed by. I wanted to see what it was all about. I had some pizza. It wasn't that good.

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The mozzarella, the fried macaroni and cheese is fantastic, by the way.

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And I actually played some ping pong in the back with my family.

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There were kids there running around. Everything was good.

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Not a problem. Just saying. If anybody wants to go take a look,

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I took pictures and everything. But that's the goal of this documentary,

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and it will still be the goal. It's for Fifth Generation Warfare.

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You know, the goal will be to have the closing credits or the last scene at

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Comet Ping Pong with Tony Arderburn and anybody else that's included in it.

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I know John Brissom was there. Neil Sanders did some work on it.

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Don lives not too far away, so we're going to pull him. Whether you like it

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or not, we're coming to get you.

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You know, we'll see how that develops. But it's not a dead issue,

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Tony. Thank you for bringing that up. You're welcome, brother. I have a long memory.

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Yes, you do. Don Jeffries, the legendary is here. What's up?

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Well, you know, I don't think I'd eat their pizza. I'd be scared with all the things.

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I'm not going to order any ground soda. They don't have grape salad in the menu,

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do they? They do. I mean, not as far as I know. I didn't ask for it. So maybe it's not.

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Not ordering that at Comet Pizza. No way, bro.

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But anyway, let's get to something real. What's going on now?

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Well, who knows, right? That's the question of the day.

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It's official. Everyone is a conspiracy theorist. Everybody.

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I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Some people are like,

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yeah, no, we might be drifting further into non-reality world here.

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I don't know. The fact that we don't know what's true and what's not should

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be very troubling to everybody out there, right?

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And since our last episode of America Unplugged, there was another attempt on

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Donald Trump's life, supposedly,

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allegedly, by this dude that is from California.

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He's a Democrat. And he was like, I'm going to kill this guy and blew past the

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Secret Service at the speed of the flash.

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And now they're going as far as to saying this guy may not have have shot. Right.

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His gun off. It's a conflicting report. Todd Blanche wouldn't confirm nor deny.

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Last time I saw, I don't know if anything's changed, but they don't know.

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They don't know what's happening. Then some new footage came out, which I should pull up.

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I'm going to try to find it. I don't know if you guys seen this,

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but freaking the guy rolls in. I don't even see him with a gun. Walks into a room.

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Secret Service is talking to him. The dog is going nuts because they have a

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Secret Service dog there or whomever is running this freaking security nonsense

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or not security. Whatever was going on there.

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Dog's going on. Secret Service is talking to him. All of a sudden,

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the guy runs out with a freaking shotgun. Nobody pays attention.

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And then he runs past everybody. And then the shooting begins.

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I don't know where he got the freaking shotgun.

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I don't know if there was an issue with the visuals. And I didn't see the shotgun

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initially when he walked in.

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But I'm not the only one missing the shotgun, right? He walked in with nothing. What's up, Mike?

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Sorry. People are saying static. You're flowing good. Come on.

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You know, do this, Tony. I'll be right back. I got you.

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Yeah, Don, you covered this on your show yesterday, correct?

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Yep. Yes, and it had Mike Huggins on, yep.

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Yeah, it's not so far off in our timeline to, because this works for them, obviously.

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I mean, if you look at this presidency and everything that's happened and the

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outcropping of the war and the deviation from what policies we're supposed to

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pursue and doing the exact opposite,

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you know, the Butler, you know, attempt in Pennsylvania in 24 has a lot of question

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marks hanging over. It's a strange occurrence.

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Anyway, you look at that thing, it's bizarre and there's been no further investigation.

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I doubt we'll see much on this one either, but do you, do you get,

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I got a feeling just as soon as the headlines popped up that something was,

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something was amiss here.

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Something was not as it was supposed to be. What's your, your thoughts?

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Yeah, well, this is one of the people who watched my show yesterday.

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And it just shows you that people, not everyone buys into this,

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because even on my show, there were a few doubters that didn't think we were very convincing.

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I think Mike Huggins did a great job. We showed a lot of pictures and everything.

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And this is the first time in my, I think, in the history of the world,

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where they've had public opinion polls out.

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I've seen at least two of them where the majority of people believe this was fake.

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This never happened before. So, I mean, again, but a lot of that,

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again, is due to the unbelievable amount of people that hate Trump.

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And I think I told you that story after Butler, where I had a guy that,

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he's never agreed with me on everything. He thinks I'm absolutely nuts and would

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probably like to have me locked up somewhere.

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But he texted me right away and said, well, I hope you're going to rant about

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this Trump fake shooting.

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And finally, they found something that was fake. So, it's nice to know.

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It's refreshing because the left wanted to lock up people. that talked about

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Sandy Hook or Boston bombing or the moon landing or anything else.

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Oh, you're pro-COVID, anything.

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But they are instantly skeptical and millions of them after the first one.

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And there's a reason to be, but I don't think any more reason than there's a mind.

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But in this case, there's good reason to doubt this is even more ridiculous than the Butler one.

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There are people that watched the show yesterday, and I put it up on Rumble

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on my Rumble channel because we mentioned the C word a little too many times

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probably, I don't want to lose my YouTube, but great work by Mike.

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I mean, just things that you can't hit. Again, some people in the chat room

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thought we were a little good.

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But look, he caught so many of these people running around with their napkins.

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I mean, J.D. Vance is outside and he still has his skin in his hand.

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A couple of the other people, I think, RFK, Juniors, like, it doesn't make any,

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I don't know what it means, but it doesn't make any sense.

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And Billy Ray mentioned about the shooter who, do they have part-time teachers?

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They have substitute teachers.

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I don't know, and he was some teacher of a month.

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So he's a hell of a part-time teacher. You should make him full-time,

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right? But he travels all the way from California to here.

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And i don't know where he got his what they call the cash in

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of weapons but he had a shotgun which he apparently put

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together their tyler robbins style on site

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because they had witnesses seeing him now again apparently none of

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the security staff saw him just as an weapon in butler you know everybody was

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pointing at the poor old uh thomas crooks walking around with his own ladder

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here with a giant ladder and a rifle somehow that didn't attract attention but

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this guy didn't attract attention either and then as billy ray mentioned he he was the fast,

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some of the fastest biracial flogs we've ever seen.

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I mean, he was moving, he was just a blur when you saw him. And he had his clothes on then.

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I guess he ran so fast he ran out of his clothes because later,

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the next thing we saw him, he was naked with a giant tinfoil thing over his

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butt, which conveniently there. Was that an inside joke? Tinfoil or whatever?

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And then you notice the picture they took of him. And I said,

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what was the photographer doing?

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Laying on the ground to get that ridiculous angle of his face?

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I mean, I don't think of those things and most people maybe don't but i mean

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you know you can see what mike talked about all the,

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strange thing with the wine the cheap wine standing there

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it was some kind of a mentalist thing there was a mentalist there that he's

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just standing there and trump and uh went here whatever the woman's name was

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the head of the white house correspondence they are they're completely disinterested

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they literally never turn or anything it's like and the guy just keeps What?

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It makes no sense. Trump being escorted on stage after Vance, apparently falling.

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The Asian woman, that's the same one, suddenly getting on her hands and knees

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and crawling. What? And then, of course, the guy that's sitting there who went up,

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Somebody said, and I think in the chat that we didn't mention it,

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or no, I guess it was a comment on YouTube, but we did mention the guy that

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was sitting there, apparently friend of Wolf Blitzer, who's never friend of

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Wolf Blitzer, eating calmly in the midst of it.

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And we had a guy that came on, John Bassett alone, who I got to see him,

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and he looks very much like Twisted Pistol. So we had some real people.

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I tell you, these guys had to form their own bank game or something.

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I mean, I'm not disagreeing with them too much, but he said he was a deputy

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and he's been all this stuff.

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But to me, I don't think the average middle-aged guy or old guy,

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however, could sit there and continue to calmly eat in the midst of a live shooter.

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But you saw lots of people.

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There was a strange young girl who was seated next to RFK Jr.'s wife.

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Didn't look like her parents were around i don't know what happened to her so

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lots if you look at these things it's very

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strange and there's so many elements of this

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and then the way they acted right afterwards where you saw i mean you talk about

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the the the uh you know people in these mass shooting him and smiling inappropriately

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i mean i don't know that was beaming i mean she was trying to and pete heck

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seth i've never seen anybody so happy in my life every time they caught him he was right

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is you know he's pretty much insane so maybe he

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was just laughing and doing that but he was so excited and

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trump looked so calm and excited about you

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know and they instantly of course brought up the ballroom and then you saw the

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memes and you know we've talked about the left for years the right has made

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fun of and they rightfully so they put all those memes up of all the local television

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stations saying the exact same wording about brown dog day and other things

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obviously somebody gives these talking points out.

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Well, they did it for the right yesterday because all those social influencers

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came, I mean, not yet, but when the shooting happened, all of them came,

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and these are the usual suspects too.

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Jack Posobiec, Cernovich, Libs of TikTok, and I think there were three of the

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people that were holding up the empty folders, you remember,

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from Pam Bondi, about the Epstein files.

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So they jumped out instantly, the same warning, well, this is why we need the ball rump.

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So, I mean, to me, it's so obvious I don't know how to, but lots of people have gotten angry about it.

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Angel Blues, thank you for, I wanted to tell you that I have not been to Landini,

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she asked me, I have not been to Landini's, I don't know, maybe Vince Hags,

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I don't know it, but, so that's, I just think that you look at it, I don't see how anybody.

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To me, this is the most obviously faked one. Butler was pretty fake,

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but this, you know, apparently somebody was killed there.

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I mean, this one, though, I don't know if there were any fans fired,

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but I mean, and I think the only, like, if you look at the blurry video,

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it looked like it was from 1989 or something.

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So it's maybe why they claim the cameras don't work all the time,

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because it's that kind of grainy video.

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But you can see the blur as he moves almost faster than the human eye past everybody.

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And then this security guard just opens the door.

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Which, that seems kind of irresponsible to me.

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He could have hit anybody. And then they claim the guy was hit twice.

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And then they just dropped that story because clearly he wasn't.

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They claim he shot a security guard or something in his bulletproof vest.

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But again, we see him next to you. And I have people argue with me.

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Well, of course, they have to do a strip search on him.

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I remember seeing John Henkley or James Orley. These people weren't naked.

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Why do they have to get naked? I don't know if it's some kind of stupid psychological

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thing they do. People can watch that show.

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They can read my latest sub-sac when I talked about it there.

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And I detail it all in. But to me, it's just, it's really ridiculous.

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But the people that still support Trump, they want to believe this.

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They want to believe he turned his ear at just a second.

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God, there's a providence that made him turn. They want to believe that.

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So if you tell them it was fake, they get really upset.

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And I don't know. I'm not going to say 100% chance. So I'd be,

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okay, maybe I don't know everything, and maybe people, just like they say,

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people grieve differently.

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Maybe people react differently to live fire, and some of them continue to eat their meals.

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And someone can just kind of sit around, look calmly. Some of them can take

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selfies like the Israeli influencer that was showing off her boobs,

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taking pictures there, make sure we saw that.

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Maybe I don't know these things, but to me, I think we should question them,

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especially when it usually happens, the left instantly comes out and talks about gun control.

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In this case, they instantly came out and said we need a new ballroom.

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So to me, I just don't think that's natural.

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How do I sound? Do I sound okay?

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Fantastic. As soon as you hear some crackling, please let me know.

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I don't know what's going on. You're on a roll. It's hard to intervene.

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When you were at stream of consciousness, it was making sense.

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It was adding up five by five.

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And I said, I don't know. I don't know if I should jump in. And I saw the comments. Yes. Thank you.

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Jump in immediately. Okay. So a couple of things. The gentleman that was on with Don last night.

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That was, it was an entertaining show. I was entertained by it.

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It was conspiracy normie stuff. You know, this was, there's a napkin going around,

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therefore it's a false flag.

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It's not. And we don't know what the, what the napkin meant,

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if it meant anything at all.

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Probably not. Right. And it's something you're never going to be able to prove.

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I saw R.B. Hammond in the chat. Where's your comment?

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Yeah, I'm going to be on there tonight. Yeah. He says he's got bitter video

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too. So tune in. I got the video. I just, I just found it.

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I really don't have a problem with most of this here.

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You know what he's saying, you know, actually a security guard with a dog saw

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him, you know, he was breaking down the scenario, but he goes,

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this was all a stage PSYOP provable.

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I'd love to see you prove it, R.B. Ham. I don't think you can.

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You can point out things that are anomalies that are questionable and that we

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should ask questions about, but can you prove that it was a PSYOP false flag?

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You And this is coming from, because Don also mentioned how,

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you know, the left is, you know, actively engaging in the conspiracy theory, which they are.

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Right. They're fully on board with it. And so is MAGA.

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MAGA is fully on board with it now, unless you're in the cult,

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which is a small minority.

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And it's always been a small minority, the actual full-blown cult members of this. Right.

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They they are not engaging in the conspiracy theory aspect of it.

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But everybody thinks this is fake.

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Everybody. And for the record, I am very open to this being fake.

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Not only am I open to it being fake, I want it to be fake. You want to call that crazy? Fine.

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I want it to be fake. I want it to be fake and be fully exposed.

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So this whole thing can just come down and we can impeach and remove this piece

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of crap as quick as possible.

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I'd love that. But you know what? There's this little thing called proof.

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And we don't have it. We just don't. I know some people have different definitions

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as to what that is, like a napkin.

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Oh, there's a napkin being thrown around. Therefore, right, let's jump to that.

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But that's just not the case.

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So, R.B. Ham, I'd love to see you accept my challenge. Prove that. Prove it.

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I'd love to see it. And I will come on here and say, damn, R.B.

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Ham proved to be on the shadow of a doubt. Let's take this.

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Let's take this to whomever will listen. Let's go to Congress.

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And let's see what can happen here. But I doubt that that's what's going to

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happen. Well, I honestly don't think any of us can prove anything. That's the point.

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RB Ham said it. We're raising questions.

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And there are so many questions here that, okay, maybe there's an explanation

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behind the Lincoln thing.

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To me, it's a bizarre anomaly to have that many people. To me,

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nobody likes leftovers. They call me Dr.

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Leftover. I don't leave anything in the restaurant. I always take something.

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But rfk jr's wife a rich actress to

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you know he caught her with her leftovers and she's making sure

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and she's left behind all the men left their women behind

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rfk jr's being whisked out nobody's looking back at her but she made sure to

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get her leftovers and her napkin and karen's like what that that doesn't that

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to me and i don't know if i was in i would give up my love of leftovers i think

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if i was in the middle of a stage shooting i'd be making sure you know but that kind of all the stuff,

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the anomalies we covered yesterday.

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To me, the demeanor afterwards, I just don't think that's normal.

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Trump, if this is really his third attempt on his life, I think he should be really shaken up.

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He should, you know, almost not be able to spound out his usual nonsense.

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But no, instead, he starts talking about the bar. To me, I just think it should

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be, it will be investigated.

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And Trump will be the last one to want an investigation, just like he doesn't

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want an investigation about Butler.

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So yeah, it'll go in the record books as an assassination attempt because nobody

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will get a chance to prove otherwise.

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I think the most glaring part about this that scares me more than anything,

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if this This really was a staged event is that they took J.D.

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Vance out of there as quick as possible and left Trump there.

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And Trump was sitting there like nothing was going on. He's just like,

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hey, what's up? There's a shooting?

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Is it confirmed that he can be seen standing in the doorway? Is that confirmed?

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Well, I don't know. I saw the same report. They look like him.

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I don't know. He's watching from. And then there's the.

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By the way, if I know people or know of people, I don't know them anymore.

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But they would sit there and still eat. Well, yeah.

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I don't know people. Right, right. Dana White did it.

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Especially, and I probably would. It's effing awesome.

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Dana White is a crazy person. A crazy person. And the guy that was,

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one of the guys that was sitting there continuing to eat his dinner,

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he's like, they asked him, why did you stay there after the fact?

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He's like, well, I'm from New York. These sort of things don't faze me.

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Right. He's like, so I just sat there. I've heard gunshots before.

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He's like, so I just sat there and continue eating. I don't think the guy ever

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made it into the ballroom either, right?

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So that's why I think some people have felt, even though the obvious thing is

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to get down, I would have gotten down and gotten out of there personally.

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But, you know, whatever.

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And in spirit, I really, you know,

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and I've known you for so many years and all the research and people you've

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interviewed and everything that you've done, Billy, and I get where you're coming

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from because conspiracy culture and research can just take stuff And then,

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you know, there's symbology and then all these other things.

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I don't necessarily agree with all the symbology all the time.

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I do believe in some of it.

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But on this particular event, unlike Butler, like, Kubono, what is the point?

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It can't be the ballroom.

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I mean, the ballroom can't be the point of a false flag. I mean,

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you don't really need it.

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You don't need approval, really, for it. I mean, they're going to do it anyway.

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I mean, the same regime that launched a war and the first strike out of the

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war kills 170 schoolgirls.

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And they're not wrestling. Their conscience isn't wrestling with that.

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They're not going before God asking for forgiveness.

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I mean, they're continuing to prosecute that war. So that's just the mindset that they have already.

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So, I mean, is it possible that they...

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Stage these kind of things? Absolutely. I mean, everything that we've been through,

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if you know history, then it's absolutely possible.

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The question is why and why was it executed the way it was and what was the

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point of it? Did it change anything?

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Right? I mean, what is the point? And that's what I always get back to with,

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a lot of the conspiracy research and clickbait and all the stuff that floats

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along with that and that people get into that have a lot more followers than me.

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But I just don't think that, I don't think there's, I'm with you,

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I don't think there's any evidence to show because you're not,

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it's like when you investigate a crime, the first thing you go is,

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you know, who benefited from this?

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We did this for you. Well, R.B. Hamm makes a great point, and he talks about

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this, about security failure, and I said that too, is that if this was real,

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if Trump wasn't in on it, His person, he fires everybody.

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He fires everybody at the drop of the hat for now. He loves to say you're fired.

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That was his whole shtick on his show, right?

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And yet, there's been a monumental security. If you look at this at face value,

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at the least you can say the Secret

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Service made JFK's detail look good in Butler. They did nothing here.

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They even, they left, stopped sitting as a sitting duck for like 30 seconds

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as they whisked the vice president off first. He was looking around clueless, which may be the case.

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But how is Trump not—instead, he continues to defend these brave security people.

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They did a horrible job both times.

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And he shouldn't find every one of them. He hadn't thrown anybody.

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So why is this guy that loves to fire people, why isn't he talking about firing

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these people? I think that's the first question we should ask.

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That's a good question. Also, in the alternative world, we need to be real with ourselves.

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And people accuse me of Trump derangement syndrome all day long. Isn't it possible?

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Isn't it possible, just like it's possible that this is a false flag?

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Isn't it even more possible that somebody with Trump derangement syndrome tried to kill Donald Trump?

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Right. They like to throw that phrase around, Trump derangement syndrome.

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All these people hate Trump, isn't it possible that somebody hates him enough to try to kill him?

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That doesn't go over my head either. I think the basement of this situation

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is gross incompetence, gross incompetence.

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And that's the basement. We can't go any lower than that.

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Gross incompetence. The ceiling is who knows. Would they stage this?

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I wouldn't put it past any of these people i wouldn't and i am totally open

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to it you know so so let's let's let's look at this video real quick and it's

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it's a little bit clear it's from pbs and it shows the dude walking let's play it i'm playing it now.

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It's just this, is it going? Yeah, there it is. And so the camera is at the

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hallway. And there's this dude. He's wearing a trench coat.

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I couldn't see that before because the footage was pretty grainy, like Don mentioned.

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But over here, he's wearing a trench coat. So it is possible that this gun is here somewhere.

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I think you need to share the screen again, Billy. What's up,

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buddy? I think you need to share the screen again.

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I'm talking to myself. Hold on for a second. Man, this was dope.

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Hold on let me let me uh let me share it real quick tone talk for a little bit

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yeah well you know again i think you have to have a a mind like a parachute

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it works best when it's open.

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Especially especially living in inside a live

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psyop that we're in or the apocalypse whichever

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you want to call it so i'm open to all possibilities but right i do

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somebody called you i think it's twisted pistol said billy's a

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proofer not a truther which you know it's kind

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of the same thing love it nah it's

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kind of the same it is kind

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of the same thing i see what you mean but that right there that is

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a shirt i'm a proof i'm not a trooper love that america unplug very very nice

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twisted all right they are be 100 proof that's right yeah make it look like

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a a ball of whiskey love it love it so here's the footage right and here's the the hallway of the,

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hotel, which they should have completely locked down for, for one, but they did not.

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And here is the dude. Here's the shooter walking Cole Allen.

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Now he's really slowed down. Yeah. That's not the flash at all.

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No, well, he hasn't dashed running yet. This is a different,

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a different thing. He's wearing a trench coat.

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And I didn't see that before. We couldn't see his face. I don't know that they

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had proven that's him. This is, well, this is the footage that has been put

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out there. And this is him walking towards that.

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I mean, we can argue that, oh,

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we didn't see his face, but this is the evidence that we have right now.

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So he's wearing a trench coat, and so it's entirely possible that that gun was

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here somewhere, you know, like inside his trench coat, hidden.

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Let's keep going. So here he's walking, and now we're going to get to what everybody

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else has seen in just a moment.

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He seems to be, Tony, you're seeing him walk. Right.

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Does he seem to be walking stiff in one direction? Maybe that he's holding that

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shotgun and it's changing his walking patterns or something.

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I don't know. I can't tell.

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Hard to tell from this guy. I don't know what he looks like with his clothes on. I don't know.

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All right. So here we go. And now we're losing sight of him and the camera's still there.

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So here's the footage that everybody is more familiar with.

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I'm assuming whomever the security detail, if it's the Secret Service or what,

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they're taking down this metal detector already. They're already disassembling things.

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And if you keep your eye on the furthest part of this, you're going to see the

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shooter come into play here.

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See, they got a circle here. For everybody listening after the fact,

00:27:47.372 --> 00:27:51.692
for everybody listening on the podcast, this is PBS news of the correspondence

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dinner shooting. So you can look it up and find it.

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So there it is. Look. And there he goes walking into the room.

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Did you guys I see that. I see it. Should I bring it back? I'll bring it back for everybody else.

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There he goes walking into the room. But then I miss it. I missed it.

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Well, say what you will about audacity, you know. Sometimes people can't see.

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I had this theory when I was a kid that you did certain things people can't

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see if you were so audacious.

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Like him putting that shotgun together, people just look at it and their brain can't process it.

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They just can't be like, especially if you act like you're supposed to.

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Sometimes the brain interprets that as just social proof that they're watching something normal.

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That's true, bro. that's happened to me on occasion where I see something unbelievable.

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And it's like I freeze up.

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I don't do what I'm supposed to do because it's so unbelievable.

00:28:42.146 --> 00:28:46.286
My mind doesn't know how to adjust to it. Well, anyway, he went into the room.

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There's Secret Service agents right outside. You're going to see the Secret

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Service agent with a dog.

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And the dog is apparently barking from reports. Let's see.

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There he goes, looking into the room. They're having a conversation with somebody.

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They're taking down the metal detector right now, these other people. Oh, don't be a dude.

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And here he comes. Here he comes. Here he comes with the shotgun running.

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And that was it. And they didn't get any shots off. I mean, they didn't get any hit him?

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I don't know. One guy shot five times, according to the report, and he didn't get hit.

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This was almost point-blank range. I mean, these are trained professionals,

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the best of the best, right?

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He didn't shoot anybody either. You know, I don't know if he got a shot off

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later on. Here we go. Look at it again.

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Here he comes. See, this guy's shooting. You can see the fire come out of his gun.

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This guy right here. There he goes. Look at boom, boom, boom.

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He's shooting and he can't shoot. That's weird, bro. I don't know.

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I don't know what to say about that.

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Either you absolutely suck or what?

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You know? Tony, thoughts?

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This is indicative of where we are, I think, as a culture, as a country.

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There's this phenomenon. It's funny, I was listening to a podcast earlier this

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week talking about some of the Epstein class and the lizard folk,

00:30:15.030 --> 00:30:17.170
the parasite class, how they use entropy,

00:30:17.450 --> 00:30:19.190
which is the second law of thermodynamics

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to siphon off our wealth and our productivity. It's very esoteric.

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But that is true in the realm of all things breakdown, right?

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So all things, if you look at like elite military units, they're not what they used to be.

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If you look at institutions are not what they used to be.

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And leadership and certainty cause a certain amount of mental clarity and reaction time.

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And I think with as clown show as we are, and this is very dangerous,

00:30:49.590 --> 00:30:56.050
a very dangerous time, as clown show and as unpredictable as we are and being a country,

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ruled at the top by buffoons and sociopaths.

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I think this has a direct correlation on things like this.

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And call me crazy, I think there's two different types of the broken window theory.

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There's the broken window theory that helps the Keynesian economics.

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Like if you break a window, you repair it, there's a repairman,

00:31:18.130 --> 00:31:19.130
all that stuff for economics.

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And then there's the broken window theory that if something's broken and you don't fix it.

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Then it just wears on the, like, everything decays past that.

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Like, you don't, like, just how they don't make arrests anymore in San Francisco

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if you steal under a certain amount.

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So, like, everybody does it. Like, there's just lawlessness and a breakdown in order.

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And I think this is probably indicative of what you're watching.

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So, like, Occam's Razor, not to kill everybody's fun, but Occam's Razor,

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like, a lot of these institutions and law enforcement and things,

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they aren't what they used to be.

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Yeah, we use like heavy handed, you know, police state tactics,

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but we don't get any of the benefit of the police state.

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You can get things like Minnesota, but then you have lawlessness almost everywhere

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else in other major cities.

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So it's tough to say what I'm watching here, but I would if I'm going to put

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it all on a bet, I'm going to say that there's gross incompetence here,

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indicative of a culture that is also incompetent. at bare minimum.

00:32:22.755 --> 00:32:28.915
At bare minimum, it's gross incompetence. This is ridiculous, what went down here.

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And can I believe that it was gross incompetence? Yeah, absolutely.

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Look at the people that are running this.

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These people don't have a clue what the hell they're doing. Not a clue.

00:32:37.395 --> 00:32:38.295
Don Jeffries, what's up, sir?

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I know, and certainly, you know, I talk all the time, but I used to have a long

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time say we're ruled by a toxic stew of corruption and incompetence.

00:32:47.395 --> 00:32:50.895
But now, in recent years, we throw in a third ingredient, and that's insanity.

00:32:50.895 --> 00:32:54.975
Because we have probably one firm of the American public probably should be

00:32:54.975 --> 00:32:56.975
in a mental institution at this point. I mean, they're crazy.

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And they've closed them all down. So you have to factor in that.

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But if that's the incompetence, then presumably somewhere, this is like all

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the Police Gone Wild videos you have.

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If that's the case, then you need to weed those people out.

00:33:13.355 --> 00:33:16.975
If it's just, I mean, maybe everybody is incompetent, then you need to start

00:33:16.975 --> 00:33:19.515
hiring people that are incompetent, lots of people that can't get jobs.

00:33:20.135 --> 00:33:24.895
So to me, I don't, it's a special kind of incompetence where that little room

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where he was supposedly, you know, putting the gun together is that,

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you know, and there's a dog barking and alerting it.

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And they're apparently looking in there. You got other witnesses.

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I saw one woman that's talking about very vividly seeing what he was doing.

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It's the same kind of thing you saw in Butler, where you had the BBC reporter

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interviewing the witness and said, you know, we kept telling all the police.

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We kept pointing at the guy climbing towards the roof with a rifle on his shoulder,

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who apparently had been carrying a ladder before that.

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Is it possible to be that incompetent that your only job is to look for things,

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look for something suspicious?

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And somehow a guy carrying a ladder

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with a rifle slung over his shoulder doesn't fit into that category?

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In this case, if you're looking at somebody obviously putting together a gun,

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in a hotel where the president is speaking, and your only job is for something like that.

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I probably think it's never going to happen, and your dog is barking to alert

00:34:21.162 --> 00:34:23.722
you. Maybe they've been clopping in dogs now too, I don't know.

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But to see that, and you don't respond.

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And I don't know how many people talking about the security.

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There was no security, it was terrible. All we had to show was this little thing.

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And that doesn't make any sense because we have so much security on us everywhere

00:34:38.922 --> 00:34:40.622
else. We live in a security state.

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And yet something like this, the most controversial president we've ever seen,

00:34:44.242 --> 00:34:46.902
and Billy Ray's right, there are millions of people that I'm sure would love

00:34:46.902 --> 00:34:48.002
to kill Trump if they could.

00:34:48.842 --> 00:34:52.162
Balance their own. There are lots of people that aren't mentally unbalanced.

00:34:52.222 --> 00:34:55.162
They hate him so much, they would maybe give their life for it.

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So that's all the more reason to have people on the lookout for that.

00:35:00.462 --> 00:35:03.902
So if you see something like this, if you see somebody wandering around with

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a rifle over his shoulder in Butler, Pennsylvania, why aren't they being approached?

00:35:09.962 --> 00:35:14.362
And they weren't. Nothing was done. And in this case, this guy is,

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you know, he had a trench coat.

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I don't know if you guys hired a shotgun. And he had, I think,

00:35:20.102 --> 00:35:22.602
two pistols or at least one pistol, at least two knives.

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And they claimed a bunch of paraphernalia. They called it a cadre.

00:35:27.002 --> 00:35:31.902
So I don't know, maybe it's easier to hide than I think. But I think this is,

00:35:31.982 --> 00:35:34.962
it's certainly incompetence. But that's where you begin the investigation.

00:35:35.502 --> 00:35:40.862
You don't begin the investigation saying it was fake, but she began it by saying, okay, what was going on?

00:35:41.022 --> 00:35:44.262
Thank you, Don. Very good. Very reasonable take.

00:35:45.282 --> 00:35:49.262
Very, very, very reasonable take, an intelligent take. That's the next step

00:35:49.262 --> 00:35:51.482
to take, what Don is saying right now.

00:35:51.722 --> 00:35:56.002
That's how we do these things. We don't just jump and say, of course it's fake,

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100%. And this is proof, but listen to this. Look at this.

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Tony, I don't know, man. I'm not a gun guy. You explain this shit to me,

00:36:03.917 --> 00:36:07.917
man, because to me, it looks like I think I could have shot this guy.

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All right, so PBS did an excellent job with this video. They're slowing it down

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35%. Here's the shooter.

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Shooter points at the cop. Cop points back at him. These other cops are doing absolutely nothing.

00:36:21.197 --> 00:36:25.557
These cops over here are doing absolutely nothing. The only ones that I give

00:36:25.557 --> 00:36:28.597
clearance to are these two because they're, well, anyway, somebody's running

00:36:28.597 --> 00:36:29.737
past them. You'd think they would look.

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I don't know. That's really weird. this guy takes out a gun, right?

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Everybody else takes out a gun afterwards, but this guy, from this footage,

00:36:37.457 --> 00:36:41.697
the way it looks, he's the only one that's taken out a gun. That may not be true, but here it is.

00:36:42.457 --> 00:36:44.637
This looks like point blank range almost.

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He's shot six times. When we play the video, they're going to show the circle

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around the gun and you see it being shot. And he missed him.

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Is this guy Neil from The Matrix? It reminds me of tombstone.

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You remember when, when Wyatt Earp was, was battling these guys and he,

00:37:03.477 --> 00:37:06.517
he walked out into the, into the river and started shooting and everybody was

00:37:06.517 --> 00:37:07.697
shooting him and they couldn't touch him.

00:37:08.077 --> 00:37:11.477
You know, and then Doc Holliday was like, yeah, he's, Wyatt Earp is busy walking

00:37:11.477 --> 00:37:16.097
on water right now because he must've been Jesus Christ for all of these shots to miss him.

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This is what it looks like to me. I'm going to play this and then I'm going

00:37:19.757 --> 00:37:21.057
to Tony. Then I, then I go to Don.

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Okay, let's go. There it is. What's going on here?

00:37:26.383 --> 00:37:32.423
Sorry about that. Yeah, I see. I mean, the reaction time for that first officer

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there, him coming out through the metal detectors they're taking down,

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that's a pretty good reaction.

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I mean, he's, kudos, or is it maybe a she? Here we go.

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That's a pretty good reaction time. There was one shot fired.

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Okay. There's another one.

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And no hits. There's another one. Well, then you're, and then also you're.

00:37:53.263 --> 00:37:55.943
There's another one. You got line of fire issues.

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With the officer in plainclothes.

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Wow. That's, that proximity.

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Now, there also have been studies, and I'm taking classes on this,

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and this is a time when I was in the military, but a lot of,

00:38:13.343 --> 00:38:18.763
like, your best chances to evade a shooting is within 12 feet.

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It's like if you're within the 12 feet proximity, like the closer you get,

00:38:22.623 --> 00:38:27.603
the better chances you have of just being able to get like not being shot and

00:38:27.603 --> 00:38:32.243
it's just it's some sort of like just the way that the human eye works the hand

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and hand eye coordination the judge of distance,

00:38:35.283 --> 00:38:40.063
all of the factors that go it's like within that closed distance there is some

00:38:40.063 --> 00:38:45.983
like room for you to evade and shots don't always go where you think they're

00:38:45.983 --> 00:38:50.763
going to go although i find that video that's that's pretty fascinating i mean

00:38:50.763 --> 00:38:53.703
you got that many pistols and that many trained people,

00:38:54.383 --> 00:38:57.963
had this been ice agents, that guy's brains would have been everywhere.

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They'd have shot him before he, they might've just shot him like just for walking around.

00:39:02.563 --> 00:39:05.243
So just looking suspicious, you know?

00:39:06.641 --> 00:39:09.881
You make a really good point. And then I'm throwing it over to Don.

00:39:10.081 --> 00:39:15.021
And most of these ICE agents that they're hiring are just, they're not even trained. Right. I mean.

00:39:15.721 --> 00:39:18.801
Regular guys, you know, these are supposed to be the most elite of the elite.

00:39:18.921 --> 00:39:20.701
They're protecting the president of the United States.

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I just think I would have locked down the entire hotel. Yeah.

00:39:25.761 --> 00:39:31.401
Anybody that has a reservation for that day, sorry, go look somewhere else. Here's your money back.

00:39:31.561 --> 00:39:35.621
Or at least never book it, right? This has probably been booked months or years

00:39:35.621 --> 00:39:39.381
in advance. I don't know how long it's been booked, and then start working in

00:39:39.381 --> 00:39:41.261
that manner. Shut down the entire hotel.

00:39:42.041 --> 00:39:45.101
Jackson T. Barrett has a good question. He said, Tony, where'd the bullets go?

00:39:46.121 --> 00:39:51.101
Right? Where did the bullets go? I mean, you'd have just like the RFK assassination,

00:39:51.501 --> 00:39:54.201
you know, like digging those bullets out of the, in the pantry,

00:39:54.361 --> 00:39:57.861
you know, and out of the walls and all the stuff. Like, how many shots were actually fired?

00:39:58.041 --> 00:40:02.621
Now, because no one was killed, thank God, nobody's killed. I mean,

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especially if they were staging it.

00:40:04.781 --> 00:40:09.241
No one was killed, so there's really no, there's not going to be a heavy investigation into it.

00:40:09.581 --> 00:40:13.801
I think the issue here, as we're just unpacking it, is that obviously there's

00:40:13.801 --> 00:40:17.881
gross incompetence here, and it could be that they understood that maybe they

00:40:17.881 --> 00:40:19.741
put those type of people in place.

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But why? Like, what did it accomplish? and

00:40:24.221 --> 00:40:27.261
that's the thing is like maybe we're just watching literally just watching

00:40:27.261 --> 00:40:30.901
a series of bizarre you know

00:40:30.901 --> 00:40:34.881
outcroppings of of no leadership

00:40:34.881 --> 00:40:40.741
and what happens like over time with a culture and we have these hiring practices

00:40:40.741 --> 00:40:44.321
but maybe i don't know but i just know like any of the ice agents would smoke

00:40:44.321 --> 00:40:48.601
this guy you know not that i agree with them they kill you know we've just seen

00:40:48.601 --> 00:40:51.721
that right any of those the trigger happy and there's a there's law enforcement

00:40:51.721 --> 00:40:53.841
culture Clearly, that wasn't part of that.

00:40:54.301 --> 00:40:58.321
You know, there's a type of law. I've been military police. I know these guys, you know.

00:40:58.481 --> 00:41:02.601
There's a law enforcement culture. I don't think that was present in that moment

00:41:02.601 --> 00:41:04.341
there. There was a lot of restraint, actually.

00:41:05.291 --> 00:41:09.811
Man, Don Jeffries, what's up, sir? Yeah, one of the pictures that we showed

00:41:09.811 --> 00:41:14.391
that Mike had on the show yesterday was a picture of the supposed place where,

00:41:14.571 --> 00:41:16.891
I guess, three or four bullets entered the wall.

00:41:17.451 --> 00:41:23.631
And they had, unlike in RFK's case, where you could see the bullet hole and

00:41:23.631 --> 00:41:29.111
it was circled and photographed, in this case, they had cut a square out of

00:41:29.111 --> 00:41:31.871
all four of those. So all it was was a square hole in the wall.

00:41:32.431 --> 00:41:36.311
So, you know, will that be analyzed? You trust the FBI to analyze it honestly.

00:41:36.551 --> 00:41:41.371
And, you know, one of the most amazing things there was Tash Patel looking like

00:41:41.371 --> 00:41:44.191
he always does, befuddled in the midst of all that.

00:41:44.411 --> 00:41:49.291
He looked like he was, you know, he might have been the janitor or something.

00:41:49.491 --> 00:41:52.211
He had no clue what to do. He was supposed to be the director of the FBI,

00:41:52.291 --> 00:41:54.231
looking around befuddled with those wide eyes.

00:41:54.391 --> 00:41:58.711
And what about, again, this is the theatrical aspect of it. We had a lot of

00:41:58.711 --> 00:42:01.551
fun with Usha Vance, who was J.D.

00:42:01.611 --> 00:42:03.231
Vance's wife, who was the sudden blonde.

00:42:03.931 --> 00:42:06.931
And didn't look like the same person to me. I don't know.

00:42:07.351 --> 00:42:12.771
You can look at yourself and judge, but there are so many of those aspects of that.

00:42:12.891 --> 00:42:15.471
The wives that were left behind, J.G. Vance's wife was left behind,

00:42:15.591 --> 00:42:17.131
RFK Jr.'s wife was left behind.

00:42:18.571 --> 00:42:21.951
Melania apparently was in there. I guess they took care of her,

00:42:22.031 --> 00:42:24.291
but no one else. But just a lot of questions here.

00:42:24.991 --> 00:42:28.731
And a real investigation would start when they'd talk about who this guy is.

00:42:29.731 --> 00:42:34.771
He came from California to mission. What was your motive? trying to find out what his motive was.

00:42:34.931 --> 00:42:39.111
It certainly wasn't anything about a ballroom, but if he had TDS, okay, that's great.

00:42:39.251 --> 00:42:42.051
And you get the, just like I said, the JFK assassination, if you started an

00:42:42.051 --> 00:42:45.091
investigation of that, the first people that should have been questioned were

00:42:45.091 --> 00:42:49.171
the number one that drived it, William Greenland, and then the rest of the secret

00:42:49.171 --> 00:42:51.691
service detail. They were never questioned. They were lauded.

00:42:52.031 --> 00:42:55.591
Just like Trump is saying they did a great job, everybody said they did a great job then.

00:42:56.651 --> 00:43:01.551
They made it happen. In this case, in Butler and in here, if there had been

00:43:01.551 --> 00:43:05.291
an investigation, You would have started with the people that were supposed to protect Trump.

00:43:06.138 --> 00:43:08.858
And you'd show some of those tapes. You'd show that tape of the guy walking

00:43:08.858 --> 00:43:11.298
in there and supposedly, you know, putting the rifle together and saying,

00:43:11.418 --> 00:43:12.958
okay, you've got a dog barking here.

00:43:13.938 --> 00:43:17.098
Explain that. What are you thinking? You're seeing somebody putting together

00:43:17.098 --> 00:43:19.198
a gun. Your dog is alerting you to it.

00:43:19.358 --> 00:43:25.138
If you're somehow unable to notice it, what are you thinking?

00:43:25.558 --> 00:43:28.478
Same thing with Butler, Pennsylvania. You have all this, Tampa,

00:43:28.678 --> 00:43:31.658
the BBC, all these other people saying they saw this guy walk around with a

00:43:31.658 --> 00:43:35.458
rifle over his shoulder. They saw him crawling up to the rooftop.

00:43:36.378 --> 00:43:38.018
Why did he get up to the rooftop?

00:43:39.131 --> 00:43:42.991
I understand. If you can't see it yourself, you're only there.

00:43:43.111 --> 00:43:46.911
Your only job is to look. You're scanning the crowd and looking for anomalies.

00:43:47.031 --> 00:43:48.251
You're looking for weird things.

00:43:49.031 --> 00:43:53.051
And somehow you don't see that? I mean, maybe as Tony was talking about,

00:43:53.131 --> 00:43:56.751
it's so obvious it stands out, but I can't believe you're going to miss a rifle

00:43:56.751 --> 00:43:57.791
over somebody's shoulder.

00:43:58.531 --> 00:44:01.071
You know, we showed another video. I don't know if we can find it anywhere,

00:44:01.071 --> 00:44:06.151
but one of those pictures where the woman who's aiming her gun in several photos, was on.

00:44:06.391 --> 00:44:11.151
For me, it looked like she's off of a bad cock shaver, holding with both hands the way they do.

00:44:11.451 --> 00:44:14.811
And a couple of guys behind them, one of them has his gun pointed down.

00:44:15.231 --> 00:44:18.911
But behind them by the elevator, there's a guy that looks like Jared Kushner.

00:44:19.311 --> 00:44:24.351
I don't think he was any kind of an agent, just a citizen that's walking around with a gun.

00:44:26.611 --> 00:44:29.931
It's my investigation. I'm going to find that guy. Okay, who is this guy?

00:44:30.591 --> 00:44:34.071
And why are you openly brandishing a gun in the midst of this?

00:44:34.071 --> 00:44:39.411
But again, those are the questions they'll never be asked because they were never asked with JFK.

00:44:39.571 --> 00:44:43.051
They're not going to be asked for this. But the worst part is that the guy that

00:44:43.051 --> 00:44:47.571
survived all this, the one they're supposedly after, they have to get rid of Trump.

00:44:47.791 --> 00:44:51.871
He doesn't want to investigate it. I guarantee you he won't know investigation

00:44:51.871 --> 00:44:56.011
of this because he obviously knows that they're not telling the truth.

00:44:56.871 --> 00:45:00.491
Well, whomever this guy is is going to jail for a long, long time,

00:45:00.951 --> 00:45:03.651
never getting out, whether it was staged or not.

00:45:04.071 --> 00:45:06.631
You know, it's, it's, he's, he's screwed, which is another thing.

00:45:06.851 --> 00:45:08.431
No more, no more teacher of the month for him.

00:45:08.831 --> 00:45:13.311
He, he, he is done. It is a rapidy rap raps. Uh, he's, it's over.

00:45:14.186 --> 00:45:18.306
We will continue to see where this goes. I think it's going to die soon, right?

00:45:18.366 --> 00:45:21.226
If it's not already dead, meaning people aren't going to be talking about this

00:45:21.226 --> 00:45:23.666
next week, Trump is going to invade Cuba.

00:45:24.846 --> 00:45:28.786
Right. You know, and this will be over.

00:45:28.966 --> 00:45:33.626
We will talk about it, and the listeners here will talk about it,

00:45:33.646 --> 00:45:36.666
and the whole media will talk about it, give them credit for something.

00:45:37.526 --> 00:45:41.566
But ultimately, this is going to be gone. You know, with Epstein's coming back,

00:45:42.306 --> 00:45:45.066
you know, that that's not going to go away.

00:45:45.366 --> 00:45:48.526
And apparently the war in Iran is over, according to this dude.

00:45:48.686 --> 00:45:51.126
And he's going to go invade Cuba next.

00:45:51.386 --> 00:45:56.306
And and he's taking cognitive tests all the time and acing them.

00:45:56.406 --> 00:45:59.926
He knows what a dog is. He knows what a cat is and he knows what an elephant is.

00:46:00.066 --> 00:46:02.626
This is his own admission. I'm not I'm not even being hyperbolic.

00:46:03.386 --> 00:46:07.346
This is what he's saying. He can color inside the lines. He got a happy face

00:46:07.346 --> 00:46:08.366
sticker for attendance.

00:46:08.666 --> 00:46:11.546
And he loved it. And he says that Barack Obama can't do that,

00:46:11.786 --> 00:46:15.626
you know, so no one else can do that. Only he can do it. And he's a genius because of it.

00:46:15.826 --> 00:46:20.946
He freaking said this. Okay. He put it on, not in, not in these words,

00:46:21.066 --> 00:46:24.926
but he did say, I saw a cat and a dog and whatever other animal put it on true social.

00:46:25.466 --> 00:46:28.246
We don't have too much time left. We got about 10 minutes left.

00:46:28.966 --> 00:46:31.386
I do. There's a lot of stuff we were going to talk about today.

00:46:31.486 --> 00:46:33.166
And we just talked about the shooting and that's fine.

00:46:33.606 --> 00:46:38.086
Next week we can hit everything else. if no new calamities come to pass,

00:46:38.166 --> 00:46:39.686
which is very hard to believe that they won't.

00:46:40.526 --> 00:46:44.126
InfoWars is gone. If you, I think you can still log into, I mean,

00:46:44.426 --> 00:46:46.946
look up InfoWars, you know, and it'll just say.

00:46:48.044 --> 00:46:50.744
Off air. I took a picture of it and kept it.

00:46:51.664 --> 00:46:59.344
Although I can't stand what Alex Jones became, and maybe he was always that,

00:46:59.884 --> 00:47:02.744
you know, and I thought InfoWars was good for nothing.

00:47:03.084 --> 00:47:07.464
It still felt kind of weird to see it go, you know, so I took a pic.

00:47:08.144 --> 00:47:14.224
InfoWars, prisonplanet.com is gone. Band.tv, which I never gave a damn about, is gone.

00:47:14.344 --> 00:47:19.704
That was, of, you know, just full of misinformation, disinformation, nonsense on there.

00:47:20.464 --> 00:47:24.704
But it's still, I still felt some type of way about it. Unfortunately, I wish I didn't.

00:47:24.784 --> 00:47:28.624
I wish I could just say good riddance to bad rubbish. And 98% of me, yes.

00:47:28.864 --> 00:47:33.024
But another 2% of me that I'm like, oh man, you know, no more Infowars.

00:47:33.104 --> 00:47:35.524
I mean, we still have the Alex Jones show, but it was the.

00:47:36.521 --> 00:47:40.261
It was like the nostalgia of like Behold a Pale Horse, the hour of the time.

00:47:41.101 --> 00:47:47.041
InfoWars is now a part of that. Although I feel like hour of the time is a bit

00:47:47.041 --> 00:47:52.041
more honorable than what InfoWars ultimately became. I could be wrong about

00:47:52.041 --> 00:47:55.021
that, but that's just the way I feel at the moment. Tony Arterburn, what's up?

00:47:55.641 --> 00:47:59.841
Yeah, well, the hour of the time and Bill Cooper, you know, never the arc of

00:47:59.841 --> 00:48:05.861
his life, I think, was based on the genuine. and I think he shunned saying things for effect.

00:48:06.341 --> 00:48:10.181
I think he truly believed what he said. That's my analysis. Somebody's studied

00:48:10.181 --> 00:48:13.081
him for years, and you've studied him even longer than I have.

00:48:13.161 --> 00:48:19.121
And I was a correspondent and a guest host for InfoWars for at least a couple of years. Yeah, man.

00:48:19.521 --> 00:48:24.681
I don't know how many hours of shows that I hosted. I wouldn't be able to count them up.

00:48:25.241 --> 00:48:28.461
I'm proud that I did that. I met a lot of extraordinary people.

00:48:29.241 --> 00:48:32.241
And it was as far as a broadcaster was concerned

00:48:32.241 --> 00:48:36.041
it was it's like nothing else i mean you go and host a three-hour show with

00:48:36.041 --> 00:48:41.161
a full crew and multiple cameras and audio and and you can put stuff on on the

00:48:41.161 --> 00:48:45.581
screen and have things pulled up and the collars it was it's next level and

00:48:45.581 --> 00:48:52.101
i'm glad that i was able to do that i'm banned from band.video the only way would be even more No,

00:48:52.221 --> 00:49:01.461
but I think it's a consequence of the lawfare and this part of this, part of the.

00:49:03.581 --> 00:49:09.081
Dismantling of free speech. I think InfoWars is a victim of that.

00:49:09.441 --> 00:49:16.241
I don't think that InfoWars in 2020 was the same as it was in 2015 because I'd

00:49:16.241 --> 00:49:19.661
watched it for years, you know, and by the time I, you know, 2019,

00:49:20.241 --> 00:49:24.841
2018, 2019, by the time I got to where I was on air on InfoWars,

00:49:25.021 --> 00:49:26.781
it was a different place.

00:49:27.241 --> 00:49:30.421
But they certainly have a lot of legacy and things that, you know,

00:49:30.421 --> 00:49:35.161
paved the way for so much in alternative media and research and some of the

00:49:35.161 --> 00:49:37.641
guests they've had along the way in the years.

00:49:38.121 --> 00:49:43.341
I mean, you've got to give credit to Alex and all that and even bringing people up like David Knight.

00:49:43.721 --> 00:49:47.261
You know, had he not hired David Knight, we wouldn't have David.

00:49:47.261 --> 00:49:50.601
He was a national treasure, in my opinion, for us to have him now.

00:49:50.781 --> 00:49:56.281
I mean, just somebody that is solid as David is and somebody who has the discernment

00:49:56.281 --> 00:50:01.561
and the courage to stand against, you know, things that were happening in 2020 while on air.

00:50:02.381 --> 00:50:06.181
One of the reasons I didn't get to come back, because I just happened to agree with him,

00:50:06.341 --> 00:50:10.101
you know, but yeah, I think, but more important, not just the personal stuff,

00:50:10.201 --> 00:50:13.661
but I think it's really is a blow to free speech that we've,

00:50:13.761 --> 00:50:16.661
you know, seen this happen and it's for nothing, you know,

00:50:16.721 --> 00:50:20.261
it's even if you believe the

00:50:20.261 --> 00:50:24.241
premise that the Sandy Hook families or whatever are going to have their

00:50:24.241 --> 00:50:27.401
you know they're going to get their due for the onion owning

00:50:27.401 --> 00:50:30.801
these domains and stuff like it's not going to happen like nobody's

00:50:30.801 --> 00:50:33.521
going to care about anything the onion does off these nobody's going

00:50:33.521 --> 00:50:38.601
to go to those domains or search you know info wars for anymore you know it's

00:50:38.601 --> 00:50:43.521
just going to become the alex jones show yeah i agree i don't think anybody's

00:50:43.521 --> 00:50:48.161
gonna i mean maybe initially you know but they're gonna have to work to keep

00:50:48.161 --> 00:50:51.161
that up you know so i i think you're right.

00:50:52.421 --> 00:50:56.361
The Sandy Hook families will get some money. They're not going to get billions of dollars, but,

00:50:57.389 --> 00:51:01.369
I don't know. It's a, it's a hell of a time. I just think most of the stuff

00:51:01.369 --> 00:51:04.929
that came out of InfoWars, what InfoWars became is just nonsense.

00:51:05.609 --> 00:51:08.769
But you know, Tony was on InfoWars for a bit. I, for the record,

00:51:08.969 --> 00:51:10.969
I met Tony outside of InfoWars.

00:51:11.109 --> 00:51:13.189
So I don't credit InfoWars for

00:51:13.189 --> 00:51:16.969
my relationship with Tony, but I saw Don on InfoWars for the first time.

00:51:17.249 --> 00:51:23.089
So that was good. I got to meet Don out of it or whatever, but yeah, David Knight. But,

00:51:24.153 --> 00:51:26.513
I'm glad to see it go. I just feel some type of way about it.

00:51:26.993 --> 00:51:31.753
You know, I just, I don't feel 100 about it, but whatever. So I took a picture, kept it for me.

00:51:32.413 --> 00:51:35.713
And so I could, you know, show my kids when they ask questions about this,

00:51:35.833 --> 00:51:38.573
when it's in, you know, in history or my grandkids, I should say.

00:51:38.933 --> 00:51:43.633
I did the same thing, but back in 2020, it was Friday the 13th.

00:51:43.713 --> 00:51:50.293
I had Dawn on and I was hosting for David. I was in Austin and I got to the studio about 5 a.m.

00:51:50.693 --> 00:51:55.293
Because the show starts at 8 a.m. Central Time. And so I was there very early.

00:51:55.413 --> 00:51:56.753
It was just me and the security guard.

00:51:57.473 --> 00:52:01.973
And I snapped a picture of the studio in the dark. And I'm going to frame it.

00:52:02.633 --> 00:52:06.053
And somehow I knew when I was there, this would be the last time I'm here.

00:52:06.993 --> 00:52:10.373
Even though I'd hosted so many shows, I just felt like something,

00:52:11.233 --> 00:52:14.973
because of the election and everything that happened, and I was like,

00:52:15.033 --> 00:52:16.153
I'm going to give my best analysis.

00:52:16.293 --> 00:52:19.893
And you should have seen the comments the day I had done.

00:52:20.293 --> 00:52:25.533
The comments were so hilarious. Like people were like, thanks for giving up, Tony, you pussy.

00:52:25.793 --> 00:52:28.333
You know, like people like just coming after me with knives,

00:52:28.513 --> 00:52:31.393
you know, like you look like a corrupt mullah with my beard and stuff.

00:52:31.993 --> 00:52:35.933
It was like they just hated what I had to say. And it was just me giving analysis

00:52:35.933 --> 00:52:38.273
on what I thought the outcome was going to be.

00:52:38.513 --> 00:52:43.133
This is post-election. So like we were talking about the constitutionality and

00:52:43.133 --> 00:52:47.133
Don and I talked for an hour on stolen elections.

00:52:47.273 --> 00:52:51.813
And we talked about LBJ. We talked about so many different, you know, aspects.

00:52:51.973 --> 00:52:54.393
We talked about vote scam and other things.

00:52:54.553 --> 00:52:59.073
We were just trying to give, you know, I think the best analysis on what would happen next.

00:52:59.113 --> 00:53:01.973
And I didn't think that what was going to happen next was going to be,

00:53:02.253 --> 00:53:03.753
you know, a second Trump term.

00:53:04.313 --> 00:53:07.553
Yeah. Me neither, brother. Trust me. Never thought that. All right.

00:53:07.653 --> 00:53:09.053
Don Jeffrey starts and we're getting out of here.

00:53:09.866 --> 00:53:15.446
Yeah, no, I mean, Alex Jones, he did some really, really good work a long time,

00:53:15.566 --> 00:53:16.946
20 years ago, maybe, whatever.

00:53:17.226 --> 00:53:21.426
And a lot of people, certainly not me, because I was wide awake,

00:53:21.426 --> 00:53:23.866
you know, from the time I was a kid, but certainly as a teenager.

00:53:24.226 --> 00:53:27.466
So when I first heard my son actually was watching Alex Jones and he said,

00:53:27.486 --> 00:53:29.066
you got to watch this guy. And I said, OK.

00:53:29.626 --> 00:53:33.326
So and we started watching him together. And, you know, he had great guests.

00:53:33.446 --> 00:53:34.806
He had Jim Mars, who was wonderful.

00:53:35.046 --> 00:53:39.586
And, you know, he had a big Jim Tucker, who I knew from the spotlight. days.

00:53:40.106 --> 00:53:43.246
He was the first one. He put Biedenberg on the map.

00:53:43.506 --> 00:53:47.906
He started infiltrating, and of course Alex Jones famously infiltrated Bohemian

00:53:47.906 --> 00:53:49.206
Grove. Not a lot of people think that.

00:53:49.962 --> 00:53:53.742
Was in on it, how else could he get. But regardless, that's a stunning video,

00:53:53.782 --> 00:53:55.442
which you can see of the John Al.

00:53:55.542 --> 00:53:59.382
John Al exists, and you see these creepy occult ceremonies.

00:53:59.562 --> 00:54:02.262
That's huge insight. It's like an Epstein list.

00:54:02.682 --> 00:54:05.522
And he was always over the top. Alex was always over the top.

00:54:05.542 --> 00:54:08.022
And he always had things where he did.

00:54:08.322 --> 00:54:15.422
I remember Kathleen Blah, I think her name was. She was briefly getting to have a name in the world.

00:54:15.522 --> 00:54:17.982
She was on Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Show once.

00:54:18.162 --> 00:54:21.322
But Alex disrupted her second amendment rally once

00:54:21.322 --> 00:54:24.042
and he and that was my first insight wow what's wrong with

00:54:24.042 --> 00:54:26.922
this guy he was acting really weird i know you've run

00:54:26.922 --> 00:54:31.102
on for me honey and all this stuff and just and she was a huge fan of his and

00:54:31.102 --> 00:54:34.782
she kind of you know she left the movement last i heard she's out you know having

00:54:34.782 --> 00:54:38.422
kids out west for their husband or something and living on a farm or something

00:54:38.422 --> 00:54:43.062
but he did a lot he did a lot of good he gave platforms and you know to me he

00:54:43.062 --> 00:54:45.522
didn't interview me, but Rob Doe did,

00:54:45.842 --> 00:54:49.882
you know, and he devoted like a whole 30 minutes or something to talk about

00:54:49.882 --> 00:54:52.942
hidden history, you know, and get to know David Knight, you know,

00:54:53.022 --> 00:54:56.502
someone through David Knight introduced me on that, and so, you know,

00:54:56.602 --> 00:55:00.442
he's, and Alex sold like 300 copies of my book in his bookstore,

00:55:00.802 --> 00:55:05.822
so, you know, I kind of felt like I was, I remember supporting him in a something

00:55:05.822 --> 00:55:11.622
way, but, you know, this, it's, I think, really, it wasn't until Trump that I was turned.

00:55:11.802 --> 00:55:13.902
If you If you look up until that point, I think he was really different.

00:55:14.082 --> 00:55:18.282
Back when they had David Knight and Joe Biggs and Jakari Jackson and Leanne

00:55:18.282 --> 00:55:22.742
McAdoo and that group where he was sending them out into the field.

00:55:23.362 --> 00:55:25.742
Hello, Leanne McAdoo. How are you?

00:55:26.628 --> 00:55:32.488
It was really good stuff. I can never be—yes, he ended up being what he was.

00:55:32.548 --> 00:55:34.088
He never talked about Israel and everything.

00:55:35.588 --> 00:55:39.088
He lost a lot of his base because of Trump. Maybe he got some few people.

00:55:39.188 --> 00:55:42.648
But I think his importance can't be meant. I think it's sad,

00:55:42.788 --> 00:55:44.868
even though it had become a shell of itself.

00:55:46.148 --> 00:55:49.968
But certainly Alex Jones was responsible for waking a lot of young people up.

00:55:50.028 --> 00:55:53.028
If you ask them what got them into this world, they'll tell you that.

00:55:53.348 --> 00:55:56.708
So you've got to give the cry. I don't know if he was always a disinfo agent

00:55:56.708 --> 00:56:02.088
or he just became one, but he had a good body of work out there for a number of years.

00:56:03.388 --> 00:56:08.208
You know what I would say. He woke no one up. He just put us in a different

00:56:08.208 --> 00:56:10.308
part of the operation. That's what he did.

00:56:13.308 --> 00:56:17.528
He definitely played a role in putting me in a different part of the operation,

00:56:17.528 --> 00:56:19.748
and he definitely played a role in me having a show.

00:56:20.708 --> 00:56:24.168
I can't say Bill Cooper did that, even though I was turned on to this by Bill

00:56:24.168 --> 00:56:27.348
Cooper. would behold a pair of horse, but Alex is what made me,

00:56:27.428 --> 00:56:29.628
I was like, damn, I got to do something. Let me start a show.

00:56:30.388 --> 00:56:33.628
Something, you know? So that was because of Alex Jones.

00:56:34.508 --> 00:56:38.148
I don't want to say that nothing good came out of there, but very little good came out of Alex Jones.

00:56:38.688 --> 00:56:43.048
And if I had to trade it in for what good came out to get rid of all the,

00:56:43.208 --> 00:56:47.408
like Twisted said, it's a, the damage Infowars created will last for a generation.

00:56:47.588 --> 00:56:52.088
And he's absolutely right. We are so screwed for a long, long time.

00:56:52.128 --> 00:56:55.928
I don't know how we get out of this. I hope we can, but it's,

00:56:56.108 --> 00:56:59.508
like I said in the beginning of all of this, everybody's a conspiracy theorist now.

00:57:00.088 --> 00:57:03.768
And what that does is cast doubt on it, everything.

00:57:04.933 --> 00:57:10.173
Need to agree on something, right? Because if we're casting doubt on everything, then nothing is true.

00:57:10.953 --> 00:57:14.053
Nothing is real. And we have a problem if that's the case.

00:57:14.573 --> 00:57:19.733
Tony Arterburn, the wisest of all the wolves. We didn't get any new comments

00:57:19.733 --> 00:57:24.553
on iTunes, on Apple Music, Apple Podcasts this week. We did get three or four

00:57:24.553 --> 00:57:25.553
last week. So that's good.

00:57:25.913 --> 00:57:30.433
For all of you listening, please go ahead, give a five-star review and we will

00:57:30.433 --> 00:57:33.213
read it live, no matter what you say, as long as it's five stars.

00:57:33.353 --> 00:57:36.773
Tony Arterburn, what's up, buddy? That's exactly right. Five-star review anywhere

00:57:36.773 --> 00:57:39.613
podcasts are found, especially Apple, if we'll find them.

00:57:39.793 --> 00:57:42.253
And you can say anything you want. We'll read it on air.

00:57:43.133 --> 00:57:46.973
We are buried deep under the algorithmic blanket.

00:57:47.213 --> 00:57:52.093
They don't want us getting out any further. They capped the ceiling at our downloads.

00:57:52.273 --> 00:57:59.613
So help defeat that by giving us a five-star review. And follow our Rumble channel at America Unplugged.

00:57:59.913 --> 00:58:03.833
And Don's YouTube is active on this show. So is mine.

00:58:04.113 --> 00:58:08.993
And as well as our ex-accounts at Tony Arterburn. And, Billy,

00:58:09.133 --> 00:58:11.633
you got what, Obi-Wan, you know me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:58:12.153 --> 00:58:14.613
That's not important. But, yes, that's it.

00:58:15.333 --> 00:58:19.813
Alex isn't dead. He's not. He's the Alex Jones show. He's going to continue to talk shit over there.

00:58:20.273 --> 00:58:22.673
Yeah, I don't think much, by the way. I just don't, you know,

00:58:22.673 --> 00:58:23.933
it's sad to watch a brand.

00:58:24.133 --> 00:58:29.453
Right. But I think the best thing that, you know, I mean, it's counterintuitive,

00:58:29.633 --> 00:58:33.353
but it'll be, they'll rise out of the ashes like a phoenix, okay? Oh, yeah.

00:58:33.593 --> 00:58:36.073
I think it's going to get more listeners after this. Yeah.

00:58:36.533 --> 00:58:38.813
I think it's going to be more. Anyway. Okay. Don, what's up?

00:58:39.433 --> 00:58:44.953
Yeah. So you guys mentioned X, and of course, my X account is still in limbo, and I want to thank him.

00:58:46.362 --> 00:58:51.362
Uh monica perez who put out there i my only recourse is have somebody else post

00:58:51.362 --> 00:58:54.122
that i need a human help that you know i can't get into my account it's been

00:58:54.122 --> 00:58:57.482
hacked so she did and i think she got sam triply and maybe some other people

00:58:57.482 --> 00:59:02.422
but i still haven't heard anything so that damn elon musk is amazing with his

00:59:02.422 --> 00:59:06.082
walmart style ai he has there they can't answer a simple question but,

00:59:06.662 --> 00:59:10.382
hopefully i'll get my account back but until then uh substack is the only place

00:59:10.382 --> 00:59:13.142
where you can find I mean, DonaldJeffries.substack.com.

00:59:13.142 --> 00:59:14.962
Please subscribe there.

00:59:15.202 --> 00:59:19.502
And you know where my books are. And, you know, my podcast is here Fridays at

00:59:19.502 --> 00:59:21.982
5 p.m. Eastern, right, on these same fine platforms.

00:59:22.562 --> 00:59:25.602
I think they'll give you your ex-a-comp back. It's just going to take some time.

00:59:26.242 --> 00:59:30.422
But I think you'll get it back. But go follow Don on Substack.

00:59:30.422 --> 00:59:33.262
He will be on with R.B. Ham tonight. So go do that.

00:59:33.482 --> 00:59:38.602
Yes, I think 8 p.m. Thank you, Ashley, for sharing it. Check it out.

00:59:38.902 --> 00:59:42.542
Beyond the Pale on his Rumble channel. Got a great show What's up Ashley How

00:59:42.542 --> 00:59:45.002
you doing Hope you're doing well What else,

00:59:45.842 --> 00:59:50.282
That's it That's all we got right That's all Nights of the storm 2pm That's

00:59:50.282 --> 00:59:55.902
it We're getting up Out of here Tony burn the place down Man play us out You got it Take it easy now,

00:59:57.202 --> 01:00:04.182
There we go Barely hear it But yeah Something's going on You got it We got some

01:00:04.182 --> 01:00:09.122
Closing tunes Yeah That's fine We got They'll be fine They'll excuse us,

01:00:11.482 --> 01:00:12.602
I'm ending the broadcast.