#224 America Unplugged -War on Reality: The Correspondents’ Dinner Shooting — Staged or Incompetence?

0:00 Donald Jeffries, author of Hidden History and Survival of the Richest, host of The Donald Jeffries Show, Billy Ray Valentine, host of the Infinite Fringe Podcast, researcher, truth seeker from the Bronx, New York, Tony Arterburn, radio host, combat veteran, precious metals analyst, and alt historian. Together, they take on the headlines of the week, Decode the disinformation and plow through the mainstream propaganda. Unauthorized. Unscripted. Unintimidated. Unintimidated. This is America Unplugged.

0:43 All right, what's going on, everybody? War on Reality Report. It is America Unplugged. We got the usual suspects with here. With us here today, Mr. Tony Arterburn. How are you back from the Bitcoin conference doing his thing over there? What's going on? Say what's up to the people. It's good to be back. Good to see you and Don. I'm excited today and particularly thankful because I just hit a million air miles with Spirit. I got a card. I'm ready to fly. I'm going to come see you. I mean, I'm just, I'm elated. Is everything cool? Yeah. I got the million. I've got the million sky miles with Spirit. I'm going to come see you. Go over there and tell me how it goes when you get there. I'd love to.

1:25 Okay. I'm going to book it as soon as I'm done with the show. Appreciate it. Nothing can ruin my enthusiasm. Can we get Don? Oh, I'd love to see Don. Let's get him hooked up. You have enough. We should all just fly. Yeah, we could. Let's fly down. We were going to go to Comet Ping Pong Pizza, remember? Dope. Let's do it. Let's do it. Fantastic. Yeah. Don Jeffries, the legendary who has had many a pizza at Comet Ping Pong. By the way, that's true. That was, we were going to be doing a doc. Remember? That was 2001. I still have my footage, and I'm not done with that. That footage will not go to waste.

2:06 But the end of the footage, the end of the documentary was supposed to be all of us having lunch at Comet Ping Pong. And, of course, COVID hit, made that incredibly impossible to do, and then everything kind of fell apart. Plus, with new developments and everything else, all of that stuff needs to be updated. But I still plan on using that footage. Regardless, I did go to Comet Ping Pong a month ago. I think it was in April. A couple of weeks ago, right, Don? I sent you guys breaks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I passed by. I wanted to see what it was all about. I had some pizza. It wasn't that good. The mozzarella, the fried macaroni and cheese is fantastic, by the way.

2:49 And I actually played some ping pong in the back with my family. There were kids there running around. Everything was good. Not a problem. Just saying. If anybody wants to go take a look, I took pictures and everything. But that's the goal of this documentary, and it will still be the goal. It's for Fifth Generation Warfare. You know, the goal will be to have the closing credits or the last scene at Comet Ping Pong with Tony Arderburn and anybody else that's included in it. I know John Brissom was there. Neil Sanders did some work on it. Don lives not too far away, so we're going to pull him. Whether you like it or not, we're coming to get you. You know, we'll see how that develops. But it's not a dead issue, Tony. Thank you for bringing that up. You're welcome, brother. I have a long memory.

3:33 Yes, you do. Don Jeffries, the legendary is here. What's up? Well, you know, I don't think I'd eat their pizza. I'd be scared with all the things. I'm not going to order any ground soda. They don't have grape salad in the menu, do they? They do. I mean, not as far as I know. I didn't ask for it. So maybe it's not. Not ordering that at Comet Pizza. No way, bro. But anyway, let's get to something real. What's going on now? Well, who knows, right? That's the question of the day. It's official. Everyone is a conspiracy theorist. Everybody. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Some people are like, yeah, no, we might be drifting further into non-reality world here.

4:14 I don't know. The fact that we don't know what's true and what's not should be very troubling to everybody out there, right? And since our last episode of America Unplugged, there was another attempt on Donald Trump's life, supposedly, allegedly, by this dude that is from California. He's a Democrat. And he was like, I'm going to kill this guy and blew past the Secret Service at the speed of the flash. And now they're going as far as to saying this guy may not have have shot. Right. His gun off. It's a conflicting report. Todd Blanche wouldn't confirm nor deny.

4:56 Last time I saw, I don't know if anything's changed, but they don't know. They don't know what's happening. Then some new footage came out, which I should pull up. I'm going to try to find it. I don't know if you guys seen this, but freaking the guy rolls in. I don't even see him with a gun. Walks into a room. Secret Service is talking to him. The dog is going nuts because they have a Secret Service dog there or whomever is running this freaking security nonsense or not security. Whatever was going on there. Dog's going on. Secret Service is talking to him. All of a sudden, the guy runs out with a freaking shotgun. Nobody pays attention. And then he runs past everybody. And then the shooting begins. I don't know where he got the freaking shotgun. I don't know if there was an issue with the visuals. And I didn't see the shotgun initially when he walked in.

5:38 But I'm not the only one missing the shotgun, right? He walked in with nothing. What's up, Mike? Sorry. People are saying static. You're flowing good. Come on. You know, do this, Tony. I'll be right back. I got you. Yeah, Don, you covered this on your show yesterday, correct? Yep. Yes, and it had Mike Huggins on, yep. Yeah, it's not so far off in our timeline to, because this works for them, obviously. I mean, if you look at this presidency and everything that's happened and the outcropping of the war and the deviation from what policies we're supposed to pursue and doing the exact opposite, you know, the Butler, you know, attempt in Pennsylvania in 24 has a lot of question marks hanging over. It's a strange occurrence.

6:29 Anyway, you look at that thing, it's bizarre and there's been no further investigation. I doubt we'll see much on this one either, but do you, do you get, I got a feeling just as soon as the headlines popped up that something was, something was amiss here. Something was not as it was supposed to be. What's your, your thoughts? Yeah, well, this is one of the people who watched my show yesterday. And it just shows you that people, not everyone buys into this, because even on my show, there were a few doubters that didn't think we were very convincing. I think Mike Huggins did a great job. We showed a lot of pictures and everything. And this is the first time in my, I think, in the history of the world, where they've had public opinion polls out.

7:09 I've seen at least two of them where the majority of people believe this was fake. This never happened before. So, I mean, again, but a lot of that, again, is due to the unbelievable amount of people that hate Trump. And I think I told you that story after Butler, where I had a guy that, he's never agreed with me on everything. He thinks I'm absolutely nuts and would probably like to have me locked up somewhere. But he texted me right away and said, well, I hope you're going to rant about this Trump fake shooting. And finally, they found something that was fake. So, it's nice to know. It's refreshing because the left wanted to lock up people. that talked about Sandy Hook or Boston bombing or the moon landing or anything else. Oh, you're pro-COVID, anything.

7:50 But they are instantly skeptical and millions of them after the first one. And there's a reason to be, but I don't think any more reason than there's a mind. But in this case, there's good reason to doubt this is even more ridiculous than the Butler one. There are people that watched the show yesterday, and I put it up on Rumble on my Rumble channel because we mentioned the C word a little too many times probably, I don't want to lose my YouTube, but great work by Mike. I mean, just things that you can't hit. Again, some people in the chat room thought we were a little good. But look, he caught so many of these people running around with their napkins. I mean, J.D. Vance is outside and he still has his skin in his hand. A couple of the other people, I think, RFK, Juniors, like, it doesn't make any, I don't know what it means, but it doesn't make any sense.

8:37 And Billy Ray mentioned about the shooter who, do they have part-time teachers? They have substitute teachers. I don't know, and he was some teacher of a month. So he's a hell of a part-time teacher. You should make him full-time, right? But he travels all the way from California to here. And i don't know where he got his what they call the cash in of weapons but he had a shotgun which he apparently put together their tyler robbins style on site because they had witnesses seeing him now again apparently none of the security staff saw him just as an weapon in butler you know everybody was pointing at the poor old uh thomas crooks walking around with his own ladder here with a giant ladder and a rifle somehow that didn't attract attention but this guy didn't attract attention either and then as billy ray mentioned he he was the fast, some of the fastest biracial flogs we've ever seen.

9:26 I mean, he was moving, he was just a blur when you saw him. And he had his clothes on then. I guess he ran so fast he ran out of his clothes because later, the next thing we saw him, he was naked with a giant tinfoil thing over his butt, which conveniently there. Was that an inside joke? Tinfoil or whatever? And then you notice the picture they took of him. And I said, what was the photographer doing? Laying on the ground to get that ridiculous angle of his face? I mean, I don't think of those things and most people maybe don't but i mean you know you can see what mike talked about all the, strange thing with the wine the cheap wine standing there it was some kind of a mentalist thing there was a mentalist there that he's just standing there and trump and uh went here whatever the woman's name was the head of the white house correspondence they are they're completely disinterested they literally never turn or anything it's like and the guy just keeps What?

10:20 It makes no sense. Trump being escorted on stage after Vance, apparently falling. The Asian woman, that's the same one, suddenly getting on her hands and knees and crawling. What? And then, of course, the guy that's sitting there who went up, Somebody said, and I think in the chat that we didn't mention it, or no, I guess it was a comment on YouTube, but we did mention the guy that was sitting there, apparently friend of Wolf Blitzer, who's never friend of Wolf Blitzer, eating calmly in the midst of it. And we had a guy that came on, John Bassett alone, who I got to see him, and he looks very much like Twisted Pistol. So we had some real people. I tell you, these guys had to form their own bank game or something. I mean, I'm not disagreeing with them too much, but he said he was a deputy and he's been all this stuff.

11:03 But to me, I don't think the average middle-aged guy or old guy, however, could sit there and continue to calmly eat in the midst of a live shooter. But you saw lots of people. There was a strange young girl who was seated next to RFK Jr.'s wife. Didn't look like her parents were around i don't know what happened to her so lots if you look at these things it's very strange and there's so many elements of this and then the way they acted right afterwards where you saw i mean you talk about the the the uh you know people in these mass shooting him and smiling inappropriately i mean i don't know that was beaming i mean she was trying to and pete heck seth i've never seen anybody so happy in my life every time they caught him he was right is you know he's pretty much insane so maybe he was just laughing and doing that but he was so excited and trump looked so calm and excited about you know and they instantly of course brought up the ballroom and then you saw the memes and you know we've talked about the left for years the right has made fun of and they rightfully so they put all those memes up of all the local television stations saying the exact same wording about brown dog day and other things obviously somebody gives these talking points out.

12:13 Well, they did it for the right yesterday because all those social influencers came, I mean, not yet, but when the shooting happened, all of them came, and these are the usual suspects too. Jack Posobiec, Cernovich, Libs of TikTok, and I think there were three of the people that were holding up the empty folders, you remember, from Pam Bondi, about the Epstein files. So they jumped out instantly, the same warning, well, this is why we need the ball rump. So, I mean, to me, it's so obvious I don't know how to, but lots of people have gotten angry about it. Angel Blues, thank you for, I wanted to tell you that I have not been to Landini, she asked me, I have not been to Landini's, I don't know, maybe Vince Hags, I don't know it, but, so that's, I just think that you look at it, I don't see how anybody.

12:57 To me, this is the most obviously faked one. Butler was pretty fake, but this, you know, apparently somebody was killed there. I mean, this one, though, I don't know if there were any fans fired, but I mean, and I think the only, like, if you look at the blurry video, it looked like it was from 1989 or something. So it's maybe why they claim the cameras don't work all the time, because it's that kind of grainy video. But you can see the blur as he moves almost faster than the human eye past everybody. And then this security guard just opens the door. Which, that seems kind of irresponsible to me. He could have hit anybody. And then they claim the guy was hit twice. And then they just dropped that story because clearly he wasn't. They claim he shot a security guard or something in his bulletproof vest.

13:40 But again, we see him next to you. And I have people argue with me. Well, of course, they have to do a strip search on him. I remember seeing John Henkley or James Orley. These people weren't naked. Why do they have to get naked? I don't know if it's some kind of stupid psychological thing they do. People can watch that show. They can read my latest sub-sac when I talked about it there. And I detail it all in. But to me, it's just, it's really ridiculous. But the people that still support Trump, they want to believe this. They want to believe he turned his ear at just a second. God, there's a providence that made him turn. They want to believe that. So if you tell them it was fake, they get really upset. And I don't know. I'm not going to say 100% chance. So I'd be, okay, maybe I don't know everything, and maybe people, just like they say, people grieve differently.

14:27 Maybe people react differently to live fire, and some of them continue to eat their meals. And someone can just kind of sit around, look calmly. Some of them can take selfies like the Israeli influencer that was showing off her boobs, taking pictures there, make sure we saw that. Maybe I don't know these things, but to me, I think we should question them, especially when it usually happens, the left instantly comes out and talks about gun control. In this case, they instantly came out and said we need a new ballroom. So to me, I just don't think that's natural. How do I sound? Do I sound okay? Fantastic. As soon as you hear some crackling, please let me know. I don't know what's going on. You're on a roll. It's hard to intervene.

15:08 When you were at stream of consciousness, it was making sense. It was adding up five by five. And I said, I don't know. I don't know if I should jump in. And I saw the comments. Yes. Thank you. Jump in immediately. Okay. So a couple of things. The gentleman that was on with Don last night. That was, it was an entertaining show. I was entertained by it. It was conspiracy normie stuff. You know, this was, there's a napkin going around, therefore it's a false flag. It's not. And we don't know what the, what the napkin meant, if it meant anything at all. Probably not. Right. And it's something you're never going to be able to prove. I saw R.B. Hammond in the chat. Where's your comment? Yeah, I'm going to be on there tonight. Yeah. He says he's got bitter video too. So tune in. I got the video. I just, I just found it.

15:53 I really don't have a problem with most of this here. You know what he's saying, you know, actually a security guard with a dog saw him, you know, he was breaking down the scenario, but he goes, this was all a stage PSYOP provable. I'd love to see you prove it, R.B. Ham. I don't think you can. You can point out things that are anomalies that are questionable and that we should ask questions about, but can you prove that it was a PSYOP false flag? You And this is coming from, because Don also mentioned how, you know, the left is, you know, actively engaging in the conspiracy theory, which they are. Right. They're fully on board with it. And so is MAGA.

16:34 MAGA is fully on board with it now, unless you're in the cult, which is a small minority. And it's always been a small minority, the actual full-blown cult members of this. Right. They they are not engaging in the conspiracy theory aspect of it. But everybody thinks this is fake. Everybody. And for the record, I am very open to this being fake. Not only am I open to it being fake, I want it to be fake. You want to call that crazy? Fine. I want it to be fake. I want it to be fake and be fully exposed. So this whole thing can just come down and we can impeach and remove this piece of crap as quick as possible. I'd love that. But you know what? There's this little thing called proof.

17:18 And we don't have it. We just don't. I know some people have different definitions as to what that is, like a napkin. Oh, there's a napkin being thrown around. Therefore, right, let's jump to that. But that's just not the case. So, R.B. Ham, I'd love to see you accept my challenge. Prove that. Prove it. I'd love to see it. And I will come on here and say, damn, R.B. Ham proved to be on the shadow of a doubt. Let's take this. Let's take this to whomever will listen. Let's go to Congress. And let's see what can happen here. But I doubt that that's what's going to happen. Well, I honestly don't think any of us can prove anything. That's the point. RB Ham said it. We're raising questions.

17:59 And there are so many questions here that, okay, maybe there's an explanation behind the Lincoln thing. To me, it's a bizarre anomaly to have that many people. To me, nobody likes leftovers. They call me Dr. Leftover. I don't leave anything in the restaurant. I always take something. But rfk jr's wife a rich actress to you know he caught her with her leftovers and she's making sure and she's left behind all the men left their women behind rfk jr's being whisked out nobody's looking back at her but she made sure to get her leftovers and her napkin and karen's like what that that doesn't that to me and i don't know if i was in i would give up my love of leftovers i think if i was in the middle of a stage shooting i'd be making sure you know but that kind of all the stuff, the anomalies we covered yesterday.

18:47 To me, the demeanor afterwards, I just don't think that's normal. Trump, if this is really his third attempt on his life, I think he should be really shaken up. He should, you know, almost not be able to spound out his usual nonsense. But no, instead, he starts talking about the bar. To me, I just think it should be, it will be investigated. And Trump will be the last one to want an investigation, just like he doesn't want an investigation about Butler. So yeah, it'll go in the record books as an assassination attempt because nobody will get a chance to prove otherwise. I think the most glaring part about this that scares me more than anything, if this This really was a staged event is that they took J.D.

19:27 Vance out of there as quick as possible and left Trump there. And Trump was sitting there like nothing was going on. He's just like, hey, what's up? There's a shooting? Is it confirmed that he can be seen standing in the doorway? Is that confirmed? Well, I don't know. I saw the same report. They look like him. I don't know. He's watching from. And then there's the. By the way, if I know people or know of people, I don't know them anymore. But they would sit there and still eat. Well, yeah. I don't know people. Right, right. Dana White did it. Especially, and I probably would. It's effing awesome. Dana White is a crazy person. A crazy person. And the guy that was, one of the guys that was sitting there continuing to eat his dinner, he's like, they asked him, why did you stay there after the fact?

20:14 He's like, well, I'm from New York. These sort of things don't faze me. Right. He's like, so I just sat there. I've heard gunshots before. He's like, so I just sat there and continue eating. I don't think the guy ever made it into the ballroom either, right? So that's why I think some people have felt, even though the obvious thing is to get down, I would have gotten down and gotten out of there personally. But, you know, whatever. And in spirit, I really, you know, and I've known you for so many years and all the research and people you've interviewed and everything that you've done, Billy, and I get where you're coming from because conspiracy culture and research can just take stuff And then, you know, there's symbology and then all these other things. I don't necessarily agree with all the symbology all the time.

20:56 I do believe in some of it. But on this particular event, unlike Butler, like, Kubono, what is the point? It can't be the ballroom. I mean, the ballroom can't be the point of a false flag. I mean, you don't really need it. You don't need approval, really, for it. I mean, they're going to do it anyway. I mean, the same regime that launched a war and the first strike out of the war kills 170 schoolgirls. And they're not wrestling. Their conscience isn't wrestling with that. They're not going before God asking for forgiveness. I mean, they're continuing to prosecute that war. So that's just the mindset that they have already.

21:40 So, I mean, is it possible that they... Stage these kind of things? Absolutely. I mean, everything that we've been through, if you know history, then it's absolutely possible. The question is why and why was it executed the way it was and what was the point of it? Did it change anything? Right? I mean, what is the point? And that's what I always get back to with, a lot of the conspiracy research and clickbait and all the stuff that floats along with that and that people get into that have a lot more followers than me. But I just don't think that, I don't think there's, I'm with you, I don't think there's any evidence to show because you're not, it's like when you investigate a crime, the first thing you go is, you know, who benefited from this?

22:26 We did this for you. Well, R.B. Hamm makes a great point, and he talks about this, about security failure, and I said that too, is that if this was real, if Trump wasn't in on it, His person, he fires everybody. He fires everybody at the drop of the hat for now. He loves to say you're fired. That was his whole shtick on his show, right? And yet, there's been a monumental security. If you look at this at face value, at the least you can say the Secret Service made JFK's detail look good in Butler. They did nothing here. They even, they left, stopped sitting as a sitting duck for like 30 seconds as they whisked the vice president off first. He was looking around clueless, which may be the case.

23:08 But how is Trump not—instead, he continues to defend these brave security people. They did a horrible job both times. And he shouldn't find every one of them. He hadn't thrown anybody. So why is this guy that loves to fire people, why isn't he talking about firing these people? I think that's the first question we should ask. That's a good question. Also, in the alternative world, we need to be real with ourselves. And people accuse me of Trump derangement syndrome all day long. Isn't it possible? Isn't it possible, just like it's possible that this is a false flag? Isn't it even more possible that somebody with Trump derangement syndrome tried to kill Donald Trump?

23:51 Right. They like to throw that phrase around, Trump derangement syndrome. All these people hate Trump, isn't it possible that somebody hates him enough to try to kill him? That doesn't go over my head either. I think the basement of this situation is gross incompetence, gross incompetence. And that's the basement. We can't go any lower than that. Gross incompetence. The ceiling is who knows. Would they stage this? I wouldn't put it past any of these people i wouldn't and i am totally open to it you know so so let's let's let's look at this video real quick and it's it's a little bit clear it's from pbs and it shows the dude walking let's play it i'm playing it now.

24:34 It's just this, is it going? Yeah, there it is. And so the camera is at the hallway. And there's this dude. He's wearing a trench coat. I couldn't see that before because the footage was pretty grainy, like Don mentioned. But over here, he's wearing a trench coat. So it is possible that this gun is here somewhere. I think you need to share the screen again, Billy. What's up, buddy? I think you need to share the screen again. I'm talking to myself. Hold on for a second. Man, this was dope. Hold on let me let me uh let me share it real quick tone talk for a little bit yeah well you know again i think you have to have a a mind like a parachute it works best when it's open.

25:17 Especially especially living in inside a live psyop that we're in or the apocalypse whichever you want to call it so i'm open to all possibilities but right i do somebody called you i think it's twisted pistol said billy's a proofer not a truther which you know it's kind of the same thing love it nah it's kind of the same it is kind of the same thing i see what you mean but that right there that is a shirt i'm a proof i'm not a trooper love that america unplug very very nice twisted all right they are be 100 proof that's right yeah make it look like a a ball of whiskey love it love it so here's the footage right and here's the the hallway of the, hotel, which they should have completely locked down for, for one, but they did not.

26:07 And here is the dude. Here's the shooter walking Cole Allen. Now he's really slowed down. Yeah. That's not the flash at all. No, well, he hasn't dashed running yet. This is a different, a different thing. He's wearing a trench coat. And I didn't see that before. We couldn't see his face. I don't know that they had proven that's him. This is, well, this is the footage that has been put out there. And this is him walking towards that. I mean, we can argue that, oh, we didn't see his face, but this is the evidence that we have right now. So he's wearing a trench coat, and so it's entirely possible that that gun was here somewhere, you know, like inside his trench coat, hidden. Let's keep going. So here he's walking, and now we're going to get to what everybody else has seen in just a moment.

26:54 He seems to be, Tony, you're seeing him walk. Right. Does he seem to be walking stiff in one direction? Maybe that he's holding that shotgun and it's changing his walking patterns or something. I don't know. I can't tell. Hard to tell from this guy. I don't know what he looks like with his clothes on. I don't know. All right. So here we go. And now we're losing sight of him and the camera's still there. So here's the footage that everybody is more familiar with. I'm assuming whomever the security detail, if it's the Secret Service or what, they're taking down this metal detector already. They're already disassembling things.

27:37 And if you keep your eye on the furthest part of this, you're going to see the shooter come into play here. See, they got a circle here. For everybody listening after the fact, for everybody listening on the podcast, this is PBS news of the correspondence dinner shooting. So you can look it up and find it. So there it is. Look. And there he goes walking into the room. Did you guys I see that. I see it. Should I bring it back? I'll bring it back for everybody else. There he goes walking into the room. But then I miss it. I missed it. Well, say what you will about audacity, you know. Sometimes people can't see. I had this theory when I was a kid that you did certain things people can't see if you were so audacious. Like him putting that shotgun together, people just look at it and their brain can't process it.

28:22 They just can't be like, especially if you act like you're supposed to. Sometimes the brain interprets that as just social proof that they're watching something normal. That's true, bro. that's happened to me on occasion where I see something unbelievable. And it's like I freeze up. I don't do what I'm supposed to do because it's so unbelievable. My mind doesn't know how to adjust to it. Well, anyway, he went into the room. There's Secret Service agents right outside. You're going to see the Secret Service agent with a dog. And the dog is apparently barking from reports. Let's see. There he goes, looking into the room. They're having a conversation with somebody. They're taking down the metal detector right now, these other people. Oh, don't be a dude.

29:08 And here he comes. Here he comes. Here he comes with the shotgun running. And that was it. And they didn't get any shots off. I mean, they didn't get any hit him? I don't know. One guy shot five times, according to the report, and he didn't get hit. This was almost point-blank range. I mean, these are trained professionals, the best of the best, right? He didn't shoot anybody either. You know, I don't know if he got a shot off later on. Here we go. Look at it again. Here he comes. See, this guy's shooting. You can see the fire come out of his gun. This guy right here. There he goes. Look at boom, boom, boom. He's shooting and he can't shoot. That's weird, bro. I don't know.

29:50 I don't know what to say about that. Either you absolutely suck or what? You know? Tony, thoughts? This is indicative of where we are, I think, as a culture, as a country. There's this phenomenon. It's funny, I was listening to a podcast earlier this week talking about some of the Epstein class and the lizard folk, the parasite class, how they use entropy, which is the second law of thermodynamics to siphon off our wealth and our productivity. It's very esoteric. But that is true in the realm of all things breakdown, right? So all things, if you look at like elite military units, they're not what they used to be.

30:34 If you look at institutions are not what they used to be. And leadership and certainty cause a certain amount of mental clarity and reaction time. And I think with as clown show as we are, and this is very dangerous, a very dangerous time, as clown show and as unpredictable as we are and being a country, ruled at the top by buffoons and sociopaths. I think this has a direct correlation on things like this. And call me crazy, I think there's two different types of the broken window theory. There's the broken window theory that helps the Keynesian economics.

31:15 Like if you break a window, you repair it, there's a repairman, all that stuff for economics. And then there's the broken window theory that if something's broken and you don't fix it. Then it just wears on the, like, everything decays past that. Like, you don't, like, just how they don't make arrests anymore in San Francisco if you steal under a certain amount. So, like, everybody does it. Like, there's just lawlessness and a breakdown in order. And I think this is probably indicative of what you're watching. So, like, Occam's Razor, not to kill everybody's fun, but Occam's Razor, like, a lot of these institutions and law enforcement and things, they aren't what they used to be. Yeah, we use like heavy handed, you know, police state tactics, but we don't get any of the benefit of the police state.

32:00 You can get things like Minnesota, but then you have lawlessness almost everywhere else in other major cities. So it's tough to say what I'm watching here, but I would if I'm going to put it all on a bet, I'm going to say that there's gross incompetence here, indicative of a culture that is also incompetent. at bare minimum. At bare minimum, it's gross incompetence. This is ridiculous, what went down here. And can I believe that it was gross incompetence? Yeah, absolutely. Look at the people that are running this. These people don't have a clue what the hell they're doing. Not a clue. Don Jeffries, what's up, sir? I know, and certainly, you know, I talk all the time, but I used to have a long time say we're ruled by a toxic stew of corruption and incompetence.

32:47 But now, in recent years, we throw in a third ingredient, and that's insanity. Because we have probably one firm of the American public probably should be in a mental institution at this point. I mean, they're crazy. And they've closed them all down. So you have to factor in that. But if that's the incompetence, then presumably somewhere, this is like all the Police Gone Wild videos you have. If that's the case, then you need to weed those people out. If it's just, I mean, maybe everybody is incompetent, then you need to start hiring people that are incompetent, lots of people that can't get jobs. So to me, I don't, it's a special kind of incompetence where that little room where he was supposedly, you know, putting the gun together is that, you know, and there's a dog barking and alerting it.

33:31 And they're apparently looking in there. You got other witnesses. I saw one woman that's talking about very vividly seeing what he was doing. It's the same kind of thing you saw in Butler, where you had the BBC reporter interviewing the witness and said, you know, we kept telling all the police. We kept pointing at the guy climbing towards the roof with a rifle on his shoulder, who apparently had been carrying a ladder before that. Is it possible to be that incompetent that your only job is to look for things, look for something suspicious? And somehow a guy carrying a ladder with a rifle slung over his shoulder doesn't fit into that category? In this case, if you're looking at somebody obviously putting together a gun, in a hotel where the president is speaking, and your only job is for something like that.

34:16 I probably think it's never going to happen, and your dog is barking to alert you. Maybe they've been clopping in dogs now too, I don't know. But to see that, and you don't respond. And I don't know how many people talking about the security. There was no security, it was terrible. All we had to show was this little thing. And that doesn't make any sense because we have so much security on us everywhere else. We live in a security state. And yet something like this, the most controversial president we've ever seen, and Billy Ray's right, there are millions of people that I'm sure would love to kill Trump if they could. Balance their own. There are lots of people that aren't mentally unbalanced. They hate him so much, they would maybe give their life for it. So that's all the more reason to have people on the lookout for that.

35:00 So if you see something like this, if you see somebody wandering around with a rifle over his shoulder in Butler, Pennsylvania, why aren't they being approached? And they weren't. Nothing was done. And in this case, this guy is, you know, he had a trench coat. I don't know if you guys hired a shotgun. And he had, I think, two pistols or at least one pistol, at least two knives. And they claimed a bunch of paraphernalia. They called it a cadre. So I don't know, maybe it's easier to hide than I think. But I think this is, it's certainly incompetence. But that's where you begin the investigation. You don't begin the investigation saying it was fake, but she began it by saying, okay, what was going on?

35:41 Thank you, Don. Very good. Very reasonable take. Very, very, very reasonable take, an intelligent take. That's the next step to take, what Don is saying right now. That's how we do these things. We don't just jump and say, of course it's fake, 100%. And this is proof, but listen to this. Look at this. Tony, I don't know, man. I'm not a gun guy. You explain this shit to me, man, because to me, it looks like I think I could have shot this guy. All right, so PBS did an excellent job with this video. They're slowing it down 35%. Here's the shooter. Shooter points at the cop. Cop points back at him. These other cops are doing absolutely nothing.

36:21 These cops over here are doing absolutely nothing. The only ones that I give clearance to are these two because they're, well, anyway, somebody's running past them. You'd think they would look. I don't know. That's really weird. this guy takes out a gun, right? Everybody else takes out a gun afterwards, but this guy, from this footage, the way it looks, he's the only one that's taken out a gun. That may not be true, but here it is. This looks like point blank range almost. He's shot six times. When we play the video, they're going to show the circle around the gun and you see it being shot. And he missed him. Is this guy Neil from The Matrix? It reminds me of tombstone. You remember when, when Wyatt Earp was, was battling these guys and he, he walked out into the, into the river and started shooting and everybody was shooting him and they couldn't touch him.

37:08 You know, and then Doc Holliday was like, yeah, he's, Wyatt Earp is busy walking on water right now because he must've been Jesus Christ for all of these shots to miss him. This is what it looks like to me. I'm going to play this and then I'm going to Tony. Then I, then I go to Don. Okay, let's go. There it is. What's going on here? Sorry about that. Yeah, I see. I mean, the reaction time for that first officer there, him coming out through the metal detectors they're taking down, that's a pretty good reaction. I mean, he's, kudos, or is it maybe a she? Here we go. That's a pretty good reaction time. There was one shot fired. Okay. There's another one.

37:48 And no hits. There's another one. Well, then you're, and then also you're. There's another one. You got line of fire issues. With the officer in plainclothes. Wow. That's, that proximity. Now, there also have been studies, and I'm taking classes on this, and this is a time when I was in the military, but a lot of, like, your best chances to evade a shooting is within 12 feet. It's like if you're within the 12 feet proximity, like the closer you get, the better chances you have of just being able to get like not being shot and it's just it's some sort of like just the way that the human eye works the hand and hand eye coordination the judge of distance, all of the factors that go it's like within that closed distance there is some like room for you to evade and shots don't always go where you think they're going to go although i find that video that's that's pretty fascinating i mean you got that many pistols and that many trained people, had this been ice agents, that guy's brains would have been everywhere.

38:58 They'd have shot him before he, they might've just shot him like just for walking around. So just looking suspicious, you know? You make a really good point. And then I'm throwing it over to Don. And most of these ICE agents that they're hiring are just, they're not even trained. Right. I mean. Regular guys, you know, these are supposed to be the most elite of the elite. They're protecting the president of the United States. I just think I would have locked down the entire hotel. Yeah. Anybody that has a reservation for that day, sorry, go look somewhere else. Here's your money back. Or at least never book it, right? This has probably been booked months or years in advance. I don't know how long it's been booked, and then start working in that manner. Shut down the entire hotel.

39:42 Jackson T. Barrett has a good question. He said, Tony, where'd the bullets go? Right? Where did the bullets go? I mean, you'd have just like the RFK assassination, you know, like digging those bullets out of the, in the pantry, you know, and out of the walls and all the stuff. Like, how many shots were actually fired? Now, because no one was killed, thank God, nobody's killed. I mean, especially if they were staging it. No one was killed, so there's really no, there's not going to be a heavy investigation into it. I think the issue here, as we're just unpacking it, is that obviously there's gross incompetence here, and it could be that they understood that maybe they put those type of people in place. But why? Like, what did it accomplish? and that's the thing is like maybe we're just watching literally just watching a series of bizarre you know outcroppings of of no leadership and what happens like over time with a culture and we have these hiring practices but maybe i don't know but i just know like any of the ice agents would smoke this guy you know not that i agree with them they kill you know we've just seen that right any of those the trigger happy and there's a there's law enforcement culture Clearly, that wasn't part of that.

40:54 You know, there's a type of law. I've been military police. I know these guys, you know. There's a law enforcement culture. I don't think that was present in that moment there. There was a lot of restraint, actually. Man, Don Jeffries, what's up, sir? Yeah, one of the pictures that we showed that Mike had on the show yesterday was a picture of the supposed place where, I guess, three or four bullets entered the wall. And they had, unlike in RFK's case, where you could see the bullet hole and it was circled and photographed, in this case, they had cut a square out of all four of those. So all it was was a square hole in the wall. So, you know, will that be analyzed? You trust the FBI to analyze it honestly.

41:36 And, you know, one of the most amazing things there was Tash Patel looking like he always does, befuddled in the midst of all that. He looked like he was, you know, he might have been the janitor or something. He had no clue what to do. He was supposed to be the director of the FBI, looking around befuddled with those wide eyes. And what about, again, this is the theatrical aspect of it. We had a lot of fun with Usha Vance, who was J.D. Vance's wife, who was the sudden blonde. And didn't look like the same person to me. I don't know. You can look at yourself and judge, but there are so many of those aspects of that. The wives that were left behind, J.G. Vance's wife was left behind, RFK Jr.'s wife was left behind.

42:18 Melania apparently was in there. I guess they took care of her, but no one else. But just a lot of questions here. And a real investigation would start when they'd talk about who this guy is. He came from California to mission. What was your motive? trying to find out what his motive was. It certainly wasn't anything about a ballroom, but if he had TDS, okay, that's great. And you get the, just like I said, the JFK assassination, if you started an investigation of that, the first people that should have been questioned were the number one that drived it, William Greenland, and then the rest of the secret service detail. They were never questioned. They were lauded. Just like Trump is saying they did a great job, everybody said they did a great job then. They made it happen. In this case, in Butler and in here, if there had been an investigation, You would have started with the people that were supposed to protect Trump.

43:06 And you'd show some of those tapes. You'd show that tape of the guy walking in there and supposedly, you know, putting the rifle together and saying, okay, you've got a dog barking here. Explain that. What are you thinking? You're seeing somebody putting together a gun. Your dog is alerting you to it. If you're somehow unable to notice it, what are you thinking? Same thing with Butler, Pennsylvania. You have all this, Tampa, the BBC, all these other people saying they saw this guy walk around with a rifle over his shoulder. They saw him crawling up to the rooftop. Why did he get up to the rooftop? I understand. If you can't see it yourself, you're only there. Your only job is to look. You're scanning the crowd and looking for anomalies.

43:47 You're looking for weird things. And somehow you don't see that? I mean, maybe as Tony was talking about, it's so obvious it stands out, but I can't believe you're going to miss a rifle over somebody's shoulder. You know, we showed another video. I don't know if we can find it anywhere, but one of those pictures where the woman who's aiming her gun in several photos, was on. For me, it looked like she's off of a bad cock shaver, holding with both hands the way they do. And a couple of guys behind them, one of them has his gun pointed down. But behind them by the elevator, there's a guy that looks like Jared Kushner. I don't think he was any kind of an agent, just a citizen that's walking around with a gun. It's my investigation. I'm going to find that guy. Okay, who is this guy?

44:30 And why are you openly brandishing a gun in the midst of this? But again, those are the questions they'll never be asked because they were never asked with JFK. They're not going to be asked for this. But the worst part is that the guy that survived all this, the one they're supposedly after, they have to get rid of Trump. He doesn't want to investigate it. I guarantee you he won't know investigation of this because he obviously knows that they're not telling the truth. Well, whomever this guy is is going to jail for a long, long time, never getting out, whether it was staged or not. You know, it's, it's, he's, he's screwed, which is another thing. No more, no more teacher of the month for him. He, he, he is done. It is a rapidy rap raps. Uh, he's, it's over.

45:14 We will continue to see where this goes. I think it's going to die soon, right? If it's not already dead, meaning people aren't going to be talking about this next week, Trump is going to invade Cuba. Right. You know, and this will be over. We will talk about it, and the listeners here will talk about it, and the whole media will talk about it, give them credit for something. But ultimately, this is going to be gone. You know, with Epstein's coming back, you know, that that's not going to go away. And apparently the war in Iran is over, according to this dude. And he's going to go invade Cuba next. And and he's taking cognitive tests all the time and acing them.

45:56 He knows what a dog is. He knows what a cat is and he knows what an elephant is. This is his own admission. I'm not I'm not even being hyperbolic. This is what he's saying. He can color inside the lines. He got a happy face sticker for attendance. And he loved it. And he says that Barack Obama can't do that, you know, so no one else can do that. Only he can do it. And he's a genius because of it. He freaking said this. Okay. He put it on, not in, not in these words, but he did say, I saw a cat and a dog and whatever other animal put it on true social. We don't have too much time left. We got about 10 minutes left. I do. There's a lot of stuff we were going to talk about today. And we just talked about the shooting and that's fine. Next week we can hit everything else. if no new calamities come to pass, which is very hard to believe that they won't.

46:40 InfoWars is gone. If you, I think you can still log into, I mean, look up InfoWars, you know, and it'll just say. Off air. I took a picture of it and kept it. Although I can't stand what Alex Jones became, and maybe he was always that, you know, and I thought InfoWars was good for nothing. It still felt kind of weird to see it go, you know, so I took a pic. InfoWars, prisonplanet.com is gone. Band.tv, which I never gave a damn about, is gone. That was, of, you know, just full of misinformation, disinformation, nonsense on there. But it's still, I still felt some type of way about it. Unfortunately, I wish I didn't.

47:24 I wish I could just say good riddance to bad rubbish. And 98% of me, yes. But another 2% of me that I'm like, oh man, you know, no more Infowars. I mean, we still have the Alex Jones show, but it was the. It was like the nostalgia of like Behold a Pale Horse, the hour of the time. InfoWars is now a part of that. Although I feel like hour of the time is a bit more honorable than what InfoWars ultimately became. I could be wrong about that, but that's just the way I feel at the moment. Tony Arterburn, what's up? Yeah, well, the hour of the time and Bill Cooper, you know, never the arc of his life, I think, was based on the genuine. and I think he shunned saying things for effect.

48:06 I think he truly believed what he said. That's my analysis. Somebody's studied him for years, and you've studied him even longer than I have. And I was a correspondent and a guest host for InfoWars for at least a couple of years. Yeah, man. I don't know how many hours of shows that I hosted. I wouldn't be able to count them up. I'm proud that I did that. I met a lot of extraordinary people. And it was as far as a broadcaster was concerned it was it's like nothing else i mean you go and host a three-hour show with a full crew and multiple cameras and audio and and you can put stuff on on the screen and have things pulled up and the collars it was it's next level and i'm glad that i was able to do that i'm banned from band.video the only way would be even more No, but I think it's a consequence of the lawfare and this part of this, part of the.

49:03 Dismantling of free speech. I think InfoWars is a victim of that. I don't think that InfoWars in 2020 was the same as it was in 2015 because I'd watched it for years, you know, and by the time I, you know, 2019, 2018, 2019, by the time I got to where I was on air on InfoWars, it was a different place. But they certainly have a lot of legacy and things that, you know, paved the way for so much in alternative media and research and some of the guests they've had along the way in the years. I mean, you've got to give credit to Alex and all that and even bringing people up like David Knight.

49:43 You know, had he not hired David Knight, we wouldn't have David. He was a national treasure, in my opinion, for us to have him now. I mean, just somebody that is solid as David is and somebody who has the discernment and the courage to stand against, you know, things that were happening in 2020 while on air. One of the reasons I didn't get to come back, because I just happened to agree with him, you know, but yeah, I think, but more important, not just the personal stuff, but I think it's really is a blow to free speech that we've, you know, seen this happen and it's for nothing, you know, it's even if you believe the premise that the Sandy Hook families or whatever are going to have their you know they're going to get their due for the onion owning these domains and stuff like it's not going to happen like nobody's going to care about anything the onion does off these nobody's going to go to those domains or search you know info wars for anymore you know it's just going to become the alex jones show yeah i agree i don't think anybody's gonna i mean maybe initially you know but they're gonna have to work to keep that up you know so i i think you're right.

50:52 The Sandy Hook families will get some money. They're not going to get billions of dollars, but, I don't know. It's a, it's a hell of a time. I just think most of the stuff that came out of InfoWars, what InfoWars became is just nonsense. But you know, Tony was on InfoWars for a bit. I, for the record, I met Tony outside of InfoWars. So I don't credit InfoWars for my relationship with Tony, but I saw Don on InfoWars for the first time. So that was good. I got to meet Don out of it or whatever, but yeah, David Knight. But, I'm glad to see it go. I just feel some type of way about it. You know, I just, I don't feel 100 about it, but whatever. So I took a picture, kept it for me. And so I could, you know, show my kids when they ask questions about this, when it's in, you know, in history or my grandkids, I should say.

51:38 I did the same thing, but back in 2020, it was Friday the 13th. I had Dawn on and I was hosting for David. I was in Austin and I got to the studio about 5 a.m. Because the show starts at 8 a.m. Central Time. And so I was there very early. It was just me and the security guard. And I snapped a picture of the studio in the dark. And I'm going to frame it. And somehow I knew when I was there, this would be the last time I'm here. Even though I'd hosted so many shows, I just felt like something, because of the election and everything that happened, and I was like, I'm going to give my best analysis. And you should have seen the comments the day I had done.

52:20 The comments were so hilarious. Like people were like, thanks for giving up, Tony, you pussy. You know, like people like just coming after me with knives, you know, like you look like a corrupt mullah with my beard and stuff. It was like they just hated what I had to say. And it was just me giving analysis on what I thought the outcome was going to be. This is post-election. So like we were talking about the constitutionality and Don and I talked for an hour on stolen elections. And we talked about LBJ. We talked about so many different, you know, aspects. We talked about vote scam and other things. We were just trying to give, you know, I think the best analysis on what would happen next. And I didn't think that what was going to happen next was going to be, you know, a second Trump term.

53:04 Yeah. Me neither, brother. Trust me. Never thought that. All right. Don Jeffrey starts and we're getting out of here. Yeah, no, I mean, Alex Jones, he did some really, really good work a long time, 20 years ago, maybe, whatever. And a lot of people, certainly not me, because I was wide awake, you know, from the time I was a kid, but certainly as a teenager. So when I first heard my son actually was watching Alex Jones and he said, you got to watch this guy. And I said, OK. So and we started watching him together. And, you know, he had great guests. He had Jim Mars, who was wonderful. And, you know, he had a big Jim Tucker, who I knew from the spotlight. days. He was the first one. He put Biedenberg on the map. He started infiltrating, and of course Alex Jones famously infiltrated Bohemian Grove. Not a lot of people think that.

53:49 Was in on it, how else could he get. But regardless, that's a stunning video, which you can see of the John Al. John Al exists, and you see these creepy occult ceremonies. That's huge insight. It's like an Epstein list. And he was always over the top. Alex was always over the top. And he always had things where he did. I remember Kathleen Blah, I think her name was. She was briefly getting to have a name in the world. She was on Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Show once. But Alex disrupted her second amendment rally once and he and that was my first insight wow what's wrong with this guy he was acting really weird i know you've run on for me honey and all this stuff and just and she was a huge fan of his and she kind of you know she left the movement last i heard she's out you know having kids out west for their husband or something and living on a farm or something but he did a lot he did a lot of good he gave platforms and you know to me he didn't interview me, but Rob Doe did, you know, and he devoted like a whole 30 minutes or something to talk about hidden history, you know, and get to know David Knight, you know, someone through David Knight introduced me on that, and so, you know, he's, and Alex sold like 300 copies of my book in his bookstore, so, you know, I kind of felt like I was, I remember supporting him in a something way, but, you know, this, it's, I think, really, it wasn't until Trump that I was turned.

55:11 If you If you look up until that point, I think he was really different. Back when they had David Knight and Joe Biggs and Jakari Jackson and Leanne McAdoo and that group where he was sending them out into the field. Hello, Leanne McAdoo. How are you? It was really good stuff. I can never be—yes, he ended up being what he was. He never talked about Israel and everything. He lost a lot of his base because of Trump. Maybe he got some few people. But I think his importance can't be meant. I think it's sad, even though it had become a shell of itself. But certainly Alex Jones was responsible for waking a lot of young people up. If you ask them what got them into this world, they'll tell you that.

55:53 So you've got to give the cry. I don't know if he was always a disinfo agent or he just became one, but he had a good body of work out there for a number of years. You know what I would say. He woke no one up. He just put us in a different part of the operation. That's what he did. He definitely played a role in putting me in a different part of the operation, and he definitely played a role in me having a show. I can't say Bill Cooper did that, even though I was turned on to this by Bill Cooper. would behold a pair of horse, but Alex is what made me, I was like, damn, I got to do something. Let me start a show. Something, you know? So that was because of Alex Jones.

56:34 I don't want to say that nothing good came out of there, but very little good came out of Alex Jones. And if I had to trade it in for what good came out to get rid of all the, like Twisted said, it's a, the damage Infowars created will last for a generation. And he's absolutely right. We are so screwed for a long, long time. I don't know how we get out of this. I hope we can, but it's, like I said in the beginning of all of this, everybody's a conspiracy theorist now. And what that does is cast doubt on it, everything. Need to agree on something, right? Because if we're casting doubt on everything, then nothing is true. Nothing is real. And we have a problem if that's the case.

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57:59 And Don's YouTube is active on this show. So is mine. And as well as our ex-accounts at Tony Arterburn. And, Billy, you got what, Obi-Wan, you know me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not important. But, yes, that's it. Alex isn't dead. He's not. He's the Alex Jones show. He's going to continue to talk shit over there. Yeah, I don't think much, by the way. I just don't, you know, it's sad to watch a brand. Right. But I think the best thing that, you know, I mean, it's counterintuitive, but it'll be, they'll rise out of the ashes like a phoenix, okay? Oh, yeah. I think it's going to get more listeners after this. Yeah. I think it's going to be more. Anyway. Okay. Don, what's up? Yeah. So you guys mentioned X, and of course, my X account is still in limbo, and I want to thank him.

58:46 Uh monica perez who put out there i my only recourse is have somebody else post that i need a human help that you know i can't get into my account it's been hacked so she did and i think she got sam triply and maybe some other people but i still haven't heard anything so that damn elon musk is amazing with his walmart style ai he has there they can't answer a simple question but, hopefully i'll get my account back but until then uh substack is the only place where you can find I mean, DonaldJeffries.substack.com. Please subscribe there. And you know where my books are. And, you know, my podcast is here Fridays at 5 p.m. Eastern, right, on these same fine platforms. I think they'll give you your ex-a-comp back. It's just going to take some time. But I think you'll get it back. But go follow Don on Substack.

59:30 He will be on with R.B. Ham tonight. So go do that. Yes, I think 8 p.m. Thank you, Ashley, for sharing it. Check it out. Beyond the Pale on his Rumble channel. Got a great show What's up Ashley How you doing Hope you're doing well What else, That's it That's all we got right That's all Nights of the storm 2pm That's it We're getting up Out of here Tony burn the place down Man play us out You got it Take it easy now, There we go Barely hear it But yeah Something's going on You got it We got some Closing tunes Yeah That's fine We got They'll be fine They'll excuse us, I'm ending the broadcast.