May 23, 2026

#227 America Unplugged: Tulsi, Massie & the Hunter Sit‑Down

#227 America Unplugged: Tulsi, Massie & the Hunter Sit‑Down
#227 America Unplugged: Tulsi, Massie & the Hunter Sit‑Down
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#227 America Unplugged: Tulsi, Massie & the Hunter Sit‑Down
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Billy Ray Valentine hosts America Unplugged with Donald Jeffries and Tony Arterburn, breaking down this week’s explosive headlines: Tulsi Gabbard’s exit and alleged CIA seizures of documents, Thomas Massie’s unexpected primary loss and AIPAC influence, and Candace Owens’ revealing interview with Hunter Biden amid laptop controversies.

Unauthorized, unscripted, and unintimidated, the hosts decode disinformation, challenge mainstream narratives, and debate election integrity, political sellouts, and media gaslighting in a blunt, no‑holds‑barred conversation.

00:00 - Intro — Hosts & Show Overview

00:44 - Welcome & Hosts Chat

03:42 - Tulsi Gabbard Discussion — Exit & CIA Raid Claims

06:40 - Thomas Massie — Primary Loss Analysis

10:25 - Discussion on Election Integrity & Voter Mindset

21:56 - Candace Owens Interview with Hunter Biden — Reactions

26:11 - Hunter Biden Laptop & Media Narratives

27:53 - Dialogue, Partisanship & Discourse

31:59 - Critiques of Candace Owens’ Interview

52:02 - Closing Remarks & Host Sign-offs

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Donald Jeffries, author of Hidden History and Survival of the Richest,

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host of the Donald Jeffries Show, Billy Ray Valentine, host of the Infinite Fringe podcast,

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researcher, truth seeker from the Bronx, New York, Tony Arterburn, radio host,

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combat veteran, precious metals analyst, and alt historian. Together, they take on the headlines

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of the week, decode the disinformation, and plow through the mainstream propaganda.

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Unauthorized, unscripted, and unintimidated. This is America Unplugged.

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All right. Hello, everyone. Greetings. Good morning, good afternoon, wherever you are.

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My name is Billy Ray Valentine. This is the War on Reality Report, America Unplugged. Welcome back.

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We've made it through another week. Tony Arterburn, the wisest of all the wolves.

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What's up, bud? What's going on? I'm proudly still Hantavirus free.

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But I don't know about Ebola yet. We'll have to wait till next week.

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You don't want that. Cliffhanger.

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You don't want that. If you do come down with Ebola, just let me know. I will not get on this

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call next week. I want to stay as far away from you as possible. Okay. I was bleeding from my

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eyes, but then I realized I was watching Fox News, so it's not Ebola.

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Sure, it wasn't stigmata. Stigmata is from the hands, but still the hands.

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In the film Stigmata, way back in the day, there was the bleeding of the eyes too,

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I think, if I remember correctly. I saw that in the theaters, but I was very distracted.

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I was doing other things in that theater while Stigmata was on, regardless.

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Don Jeffries, the legendary. What is going on with you? How are you?

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Good with you guys. Lots of exciting stuff to talk about. We'll see. As we keep swirling down

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there, I know we're going to talk about Tulsi Gabbard among many other things, but I'm saying

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here, if you're betting, man, I think there's better than a 1% chance that Trump names Hillary

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Clinton to replace her. That's what I'm predicting. I'm all for that. I'm all for that. Let's expose

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the full hypocrisy of this shit and get Hillary Clinton up in there.

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He still wouldn't lose that many more people. No, man. These people are gone forever. A lot

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of these people that are still in the cult right now. To all of you that have broken out of the

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cult, congratulations. Even if you're a three-time Trump voter and you've broken out of the cult,

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congratulations. We probably still don't agree on 90% of things, but congratulations. Come join us.

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We need to push and we need more minds in the resistance of all of this. We need that. Then

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we can go back to arguing whatever it is we want to argue. We could do it civil. We can move forward

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and actually make some progress. This cancer that's currently occupying the United States of

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America and the world needs to be dealt with immediately. For those of you that have broken

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out, kudos to you. I appreciate you. Come join us here on America Unplugged. Tony Arterburn,

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man, what do you want to talk about? We're going to talk about Candace Owens and Mr. Hunter Biden

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today. We're going to do that. We're going to talk about Mr. Thomas Massie today. Interesting

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stuff there. What was the other thing, Don? Tulsi Gabbard.

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Tulsi Gabbard says, peace. I'm leaving. I wonder why. We'll talk about all of that here today.

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The official explanation is that her husband has a rare form of bone cancer.

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That's not something you make up. Anybody who's followed her for a while would realize that

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she had to have been looking for an exit. Then there's the raid that happened. That's exactly

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what it was. They've tried to paper this over and PR this thing where the CIA actually came

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into the office of the Director of National Intelligence, which is her, and took back 40

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boxes of documents that were related to MKUltra, UFOs, the JFK assassination, things that her

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office was sourcing. The CIA came in and just took it. You've got to remember too, John Ratcliffe,

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who was the Director of National Intelligence, is now the head of the CIA. I'm sure that he was

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looking at that office, knowing where everything is, and just came in there and took everything.

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Her position, just even having an opinion of not having more foreign wars and being skeptical of

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that being a veteran, I mean, she's not perfect. I've never been a huge fan, but I've appreciated

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when she's deviated from the official narrative. She was never a favorite. There's no winning

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here. I mean, the longer you stay with this administration, this regime, the more tainted

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you're going to be. Exit stage right, good for her, regardless of the family stuff. I'm glad

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that she was able to get out. Well, God bless. Wish her husband gets better ASAP. That really

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sucks. As far as Tulsi herself, she sold out and we should not forget that, all right? Because all

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the things she said prior to joining the Trump regime were anti-Trump regime. And then they

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offered her a position and she was down and she's gone along with this. Very little, if any, resistance

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coming from her. If there was any resistance, it was behind the scenes. She definitely wasn't vocal

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about it. So it is what it is with Tulsi for me. Not that I won't support her when she turns,

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I mean, I'm not going to support her with my money. I'm not going to support her with my vote,

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but I will support her vocally if she turns and starts saying some things, right? That's fine if

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I agree with some of the stuff that she's saying. But as a person, I'm done with Tulsi Gabbard,

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at least for the foreseeable future. She did an RFK and sold out completely and totally

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to get into power. And I can't respect that. And that's why I have respect for Thomas Massie.

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And the people get all bent out of shape. Oh my God, Thomas Massie, you got respect. Well,

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the guy just lost his job over all of this, right? So maybe we'll lead off with that.

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I wanted to talk about Candace and we will talk about Candace Owens because that's very,

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very important. Very important. So tune in. Okay, stay tuned, I should say. But Tony,

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talk to us about Thomas Massie, man. Anybody that was following this closely apparently

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saw the writing on the wall. I was not following this at all. I didn't know if he was going to

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lose or win or whatever. But a lot of people that have been following it closely were like, yeah,

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he's probably gonna lose. It was MAGA world, right, that happened, that this took place in.

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And apparently Trump still has some sway in the building when it comes to the cult,

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right? So this is what happened, maybe. I don't know, you tell me, what's up?

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Well, as I said last week, I mean, is it possible to lose even as a sitting congressman

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in a Republican district that people have been very popular and people like Thomas Massie in

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his own district? And I thought, yes, absolutely. I've seen it happen before,

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especially if there's enough outside money. And again, there was a lot, I think it was like

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350% increase in voting. So there's a lot more people that showed up than had previously.

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So they were able to activate the vote. And look, I'm not even saying all of it's legit,

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but I believe that the Republican districts can be swayed by outside money. I've literally watched

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it happen. And the Republican primary voter, you shouldn't put a lot of stock and confidence in

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their discernment. I mean, you can look at my home state. We just do this over and over again

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and reelect these douchebags. And I mean, it's not something that I thought was far-fetched.

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So I thought with all that money pouring in and Trump at the top, and here's another thing,

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you know, where his district is near that, have you ever seen the Bill Maher documentary

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Religious, where he goes over and talks to the guy who builds like the new Noah's Ark thing and like

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the creation museum and stuff? That's where that is in Kentucky. And so a lot of the demographic

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around there is going to be evangelical Christian. And then you add in that's Christian Zionism. So

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I mean, he lost in a combination of factors and certainly that coalition, the APAC,

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the MAGA people that are still MAGA, the brainwashed, you know, mind-controlled folk.

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And then Christian Zionism, that is a deadly combination there. So I didn't think he was

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going to pull that off even being popular and even with having outside support himself. So

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I thought that was the most likely conclusion and a good for him, by the way.

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I think it's very, this is something I talked about on my show. I think this is a good thing

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at the end of the day, because it gives you a stark contrast of what we're up against. And,

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you know, the more that people are satisfied with the status quo, the more they say, well,

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we just got this person in office, so we're good. We don't have to fight for these ideals anymore.

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We don't have to do anything. We can just sit back. I think the more that this kind of stuff

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happens, the better it is for the authentic grassroots, for the ground level, you know,

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political movements, whether it's right or left. I think it's good. I think it's good when people

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don't get their way because it makes you reassess and, you know, go back to the drawing board,

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which I think is healthy. We absolutely need that. 100. What's up, Don? Yeah, certainly.

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I think that they're in, and I, you know, I always publish corrections, and I published recently,

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I heard a lot of talk about 50,000 mail-in ballots, and I thought, okay, well, Trump is

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doing these things in 2020, so that would be ironic, but it wouldn't surprise me. But apparently

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that was wrong. I still don't know for sure. So I corrected it, but there's still a lot of questions

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about the numbers there. And the most amazing question is that, the thing is that, first of

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all, Massey won 99.6% of the vote in his last election. The Democrats didn't even run anybody

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against him, but he somehow got more votes this time and lost by 10 percentage points. So that

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shows you the 357% increase that Tony talked about, but the vast majority went to his opponent.

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Now, you look at the numbers, Massey won convincingly in every age group from 18 to 65.

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Is there that many 60, older than 65 voters in Kentucky that overcame that debt and gave a 10

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point victory to Gowron? Very strange. And, you know, if you look at, I know somebody that was

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there, my son's best friend who, you know, coached them both in baseball for years, and he, so he

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wanted me and my son to go with him. And I said, I'm not going to Kentucky to, you know, he's

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very lonesome. And I'm not so good for anybody else. And very disillusioned. What he saw, he

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said, Massey ran a bet, a really bad campaign. He didn't seem to take it seriously. And if you

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looked at Massey all the time, he couldn't stop smiling. I said, you know, why are you so? He

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wasn't taking anything seriously. He was joking. He was joking about losing on Tucker Carlson,

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even though a few days before this end of the vote, he was given a 71% chance of winning.

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And somehow within eight days, he goes to losing by 10. I mean, the math doesn't add up here. And

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then, of course, the icing on the cake is afterwards, he followed in the footsteps of

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Pat Buchanan after they absolutely raped him in Arizona, he flew to New Hampshire back in 92.

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And all his supporters, it was so much shenanigans, he wouldn't do it. Same thing with

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Ron Paul in 2012, when we saw what happened to him, everyone, that he wouldn't do it. That's

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why so much you want about Trump. That's what excited so many people. He's the first one ever

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to talk about being robbed in an election. He just did it like a 10-year-old. So everyone,

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he was like stomping his feet. So nobody took him seriously. A lot of people did.

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Massey just came out with a big smile on his face and say, no, no, there was no fraud. I'm

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not going to ask for a recount or anything. Disappointing a lot of people. So that combined

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with the Candace Owens interview, you know, making me think, maybe Massey is a member of

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the junta, people claim he's a big mason and all this stuff. Somebody on here was talking about

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Massey's changing appearance. So now they've got people who think he's not even Massey.

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It's very disappointing, but it's almost impossible for an incumbent to lose.

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96% of them get reelected every year. You saw Madison Crawthorne a couple of years ago,

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probably one of the few good young Republicans he lost as an incumbent.

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Not yet, but nobody else does. I mean, Lindsey Graham is not going to lose. People, you think,

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okay, how do they keep getting elected? People get reelected. But somehow this guy is the one,

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the best person in Congress, in my view. And it's, again, as Tony mentioned, I think some

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good will come out of it because this was such an obvious battle between Zionism and anti-Zionism.

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Massey had 32 million or whatever it was at the AIPAC readings that came in. So that clearly,

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I was on XArmy with these people. It's unbelievable, the influencers that

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every day, they're putting up pictures of Massey with various women. And somebody talked about,

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apparently there was an AI video with Sareesan with him and NEOC and Ilhan and Omar that it

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was not to seem completely fake. But still, that's the level they were sinking to.

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And they even went to the point of trying to blame Massey for feeding on his ill, sick wife.

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And you guys know, I was the only one that questioned the death of his wife. I remember

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right afterwards. This guy was just on Tucker Carlson, most amazing interview ever, calling

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out AIPAC. And then less than a week later, his wife, 51 years old, was on a vacation with them

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and the grandchildren, no signs of anything but being healthy, suddenly dies. Still don't know

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why or whatever, but now the influencers are saying, oh, he was feeding on her when she was

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sick. That's not true. She wasn't sick. So that's the level that they stooped to. But I don't know.

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I don't know how many, but I think a lot of people are not going to... Trump himself with

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his ridiculous turnabout, 180 degree where he doesn't even pay any attention to his rhetoric

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anymore. He's not just breaking promises, literally doing the apes and stuff. That's

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going to cause a lot of people not to vote. And I think Massey's loss, little primary election,

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I think that was very symbolically showing that the system is rigged and relocated,

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whether it's the candidates or the people being stupid. I think people realize we're never going

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to vote ourselves out of this. I think I don't know how many people decided, hey, I'm not voting

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again. What we need, I think what would be interesting is a matrix disruptor at this

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point. And if I was Thomas Massey, what I would do is I would immediately leave the Republican

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party. I'd join the Democratic party. I'd have the Democratic party give me the Democratic

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nomination for the general election. I'd ask the same thing of the Libertarian party.

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If he can get 40% standard just votes, that's what we get here in Texas. So about 40% vote Democrat,

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just straight ticket. So then you got to close the gap. And if you got both of those things,

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and then you get all those hundreds of thousands of people in the district who don't vote in

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primaries to come out and do something because you're going to run to the right or to the

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Libertarian right of this train seal guy, the circus seal, that would be a way to do it.

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You talk about making them go spend a whole bunch more money. I'm always thinking about stuff like

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we always play the same game. And I'm wondering, throw off party affiliation, start destroying the

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matrix the way it works. And think outside the box like screw party affiliation or labels or

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anything and just use the system against itself. Just an idea if anybody wants to float that Thomas

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Massey that that would you would come within striking distance for very little money. And

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it would piss a lot of the right people off. It'd be fun to watch. I think it would definitely.

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Well, once a gallery did have one issue, Tony. He ran on reinstating the draft.

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Other than support of Israel.

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Yeah, I think it would shake things up. But we also need to consider instead of talking about

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you can we can talk about whatever we want, right? But how the election may or may not

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have been rigged. But I mean, let's let's consider how MAGA how how deeply entrenched in MAGA

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the fourth district of Kentucky is. I mean, it is it is MAGA per MAGA there. MAGA times two,

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you know, MAGA to the 10th power. So Thomas Massey. Why we've spoken about him so much and

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and and why I think. He's at least stands on his principles, you know, and he's he has a

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a working relationship with Ro Khanna, you know, and all this. And he's a Democrat. Like,

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I like to see that sort of thing. He went completely against Donald Trump and that

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goes completely against the cult. So it's not out of the realm of possibility that this could have

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he could have just lost. Right. Instead of like thinking, oh, there were, you know, X amount of

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more votes. So maybe they've rigged this. I don't know. I can I can believe that he lost.

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Right. I can believe that. And I think that's why he's just said, you know, I lost. I'm conceding

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it. Right. For the record, I believe that he lost. Yeah. Like straight up. That's the way

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the voters do in the primary. Right. Period. I heard your explanation for this before, Tony.

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And since you've you've been involved. So I I subscribe to that. I take your advice.

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The real rigged system is how dumb people are. OK, I mean, I've been yelling about this for

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years. Right. I'm like, it's in your mind. I mean, well, Don, and I talked about this

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on the show. Don in Hidden History, go check the vote scam deal and like just

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check it. Electronic voting is is fucked anyway. I get that and I'm against it. And I think we

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have there is a lot of there's a lot of subterfuge. There's a lot of deception

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with voting in itself. But I think, like, again, the real the real rigged system is the mind,

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the colonized mind of the average voter. That's true. I get much, much credit. That's what I say.

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It's always been a choice. I want to believe it's rigged because I don't want to look at

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the alternative. I don't want to accept that people vote. Ninety six percent of the most

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awful people on Earth back in office every election. I love I love this for a lot of reasons.

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And I think I'm going to take this this clip and just own it for me. I put it out. People

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won't get it right. They won't understand. Tony just cosigned me, not that he hasn't in the past,

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but he just cosigned what I'm saying. So, I mean, you don't have to listen to me.

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Listen to Tony, listen to Tony and what he said. It's in your mind. Sure, we can get into

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the electronic voting systems and all of that other stuff. But most recently,

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even more so now than ever before, it's in your mind. They've colonized your mind.

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And Don just said something that I've been screaming about forever. What do you want to

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believe? What do you want to believe and why do you want to believe those things?

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The alternative is so distasteful. Is it? I believe they believe that people reelect

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Lindsey Graham and Chuckie Schumer and somebody can't beat these people. I mean,

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I mean, I get it. That's the case. Then there's a yuck, yuck, Chuck Schumer and Lindsey Graham,

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you know, but but but we want to believe certain things and that's going to bridge us over to

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Candace Owens and this entire situation. But this is

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not very effectively to those people who want to believe the opposite of what I am telling them.

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And there's a reason and mechanism for that, too, as to why, you know, some people have

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gravitated to what it is I've been saying for a while now. But thank you, guys. I mean,

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I know you guys are these are your own opinions and and you weren't doing it to make me feel

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better by and you know, we never do that here on America Unplugged. It doesn't matter if somebody

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feels good. People are going to say what they're going to say. But but I. That was special to me

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that that little. Two minute, three minute exchange there, and I I appreciate it makes me feel good.

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Second. Over to Candace Owens. Same deal. Same deal. And I know we're going to disagree here.

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Well, I don't know that, but I think so. I think Don is definitely going to disagree with me because

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I heard his take before we went on air and it's an original take. I didn't I didn't think of that.

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And it's a valid thing to discuss. We're going to discuss it here right now. But

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I've been yelling about this stupid laptop for years now.

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All right. And I and I told everyone because this is what they do, not because I know anything

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better than anyone. They did it with Anthony Weiner. John Brissom and I sat down for, I don't

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know, several weeks trying to research where that came from. And we realized it was nonsense. It's

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the same thing with the Hunter Biden laptop. And now, first off, go watch that interview with

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Candace Owens and Hunter Biden. It's freaking fantastic. I'm not done with it. I still I still

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have about 40 minutes left or something. Not exactly sure, but I'm not done with it. I got

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to finish watching it. But I thought it was amazing. It was it looked like a genuine conversation to

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Candace Owens being. You know, not 100 percent transparent because she still has to own a few

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things, in my opinion. So she doesn't she doesn't really do all of that. But she had Hunter Biden

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on. I thought that was a big step. And they started talking about things, frankly, you know,

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and the laptop came up, you know, and Hunter Biden's like, do you know what the laptop proved?

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That I was a crackhead. That's all it proved. And Candace Owens goes, yeah, that's all it

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proved that you were a crackhead. And then he goes ahead and named Steve Bannon and he goes ahead and

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says Rudolph Giuliani and the entire narrative that was built around this laptop and what it was

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supposed to prove about the Bidens and about a Hunter Biden. And I said it here before this

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interview when they brought charges on Hunter Biden. Did they bring charges of pedophilia?

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Did they bring any charges of consequence? No, it was a gun charge and a tax charge.

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That's what they brought. This was under Donald Trump. That's what they brought under him. That's

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what that's what they charged him under. And if they had anything else, they would have used it,

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but they didn't because they didn't have anything. But nobody wanted to hear it at that point.

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Now, this guy is running around threatening to to he doesn't give a shit. Melania tried to

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sue him. He's like, sue me. Go ahead. See if I give a damn. He's doing interviews. He's he's

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challenging the Trump brothers to a cage fight, you know, and now he's sitting down with Candace

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Owens. He's living his life. Chilling. And now it finally it's finally coming out to the new

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Alex Jones, the new Alex Jones of a generation, Candace Owens is sitting there. Admitting that

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that laptop, there was nothing to it. And I had a comment, I'm going to throw it to

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to Tony and to Don. But Don was like he was disappointed in Candace because Candace didn't

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didn't. In his view, push back on on Hunter, and I would say to that she had nothing to push back

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on. There was nothing. They had nothing. And I've said this before and I say it again, they had

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nothing. There's zero evidence. What do you want to believe? What do you want to believe?

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There's evidence of some stuff, but is it misconstrued? What is it turned into?

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And how bad do you want to believe that? And for what reasons do you want to believe that?

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Leticia James, what do you want to believe? That all fell apart. Comey, what do you want to believe?

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All of that fell apart. They said they're going to bring charges on Barack Obama. What do you want

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to believe? I'm going to tell you again, they got nothing. They've got nothing. We disagree

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with them on principle. We disagree with them on policies. And that's fine. And these may not

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be the greatest people either. I'm not saying that. What I am saying is that what they're

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being accused of for political purposes, for purposes of manipulating your mind.

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Is largely bullshit. And and this interview brought that forth.

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No evidence of the majority of the crap that they were talking about surrounding this laptop. I got

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a clip. I'll play it after, I guess. Go ahead, Tony, what's up? Well, I mean, going back to 2020,

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something that I said about the Hunter Biden laptop was that they weren't going to use it

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like the Republicans, you know, they didn't. And it was bizarre, you know, all this supposed stuff

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that's on there. And there has been. There has been some disturbing stuff that I've seen, at

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least images, and they could be it could be generated, maybe I'm seeing some maybe it's

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part of the PSYOP. But my prediction was that the Democrats or the people in power would use it

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against Joe Biden, which is what came to pass when the soft coup d'etat, all that stuff that was

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happening, you know, they were pushing even under the Biden administration. Hunter Biden was going

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through the justice system. I mean, they had they had pressure put on the Biden family through that

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and using the laptop as leverage. So I remember that happening. But to go back to the the Candace

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Owens Biden interview, and I've watched big chunks of it. And if you can suspend all of the

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questions hanging over the Biden family corruption in the laptop, what's the the contents of it when

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it comes to. You know, the sexual impropriety with with kids or whatever, like if if that is a thing

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which I don't know, I've never confirmed that this is just something that floats around and you

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do your best to try to discern what's what's real and what's fake. But if you just put that aside.

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I think that is the spirit of those two people talking and having a dialogue in all of this

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shit that we're in where you have to hate everybody and there's partisanship and

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all the rest. I think that is very healthy. I think it's good. In matter of fact, if you were

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to take that sort of blueprint and use it, you could revolutionize the way that we have discourse

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because we were so stuck up and jammed in, like just the whole thing around everything with

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how we see the parties and how we see people that are in power. Like if you were to take

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that and turn it on its head, it would be revolutionary at this point because we're

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trapped inside of this partisan mind war, which is used to distract us and put us at each other's

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throat so that the parasitic class can feed off of us. So I think there's something positive to that

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and there's probably, I don't know, it may be a new trend. I don't know. I'm looking at that.

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It was so bizarre to me to watch because I think about no one really could have predicted

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how crazy that actually is. If you think about that, like we have moved on, which is good,

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and a lot of the old norms and the construct of what we believe to be, well, I'm over on this

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side and you're on this side, all those things are falling away. And that's why I think sometimes,

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even when you're like a Thomas Massey loss is a good thing because it makes you look at this and

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or the Trump administration letting you down. Good. It was supposed to. It wasn't real in the

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first place. And we've been saying this for years and years. So I think this is anytime that the

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boundaries are crossed and things get mixed up. Excellent. Disrupt the matrix. Any chance you get

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like this show, this show is so not anywhere in the paradigm of alternative media norms.

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You know, like we're we're we're off the map a lot of times. And then, you know,

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and it can piss a lot of people off, which is good. I think that's a good thing. You don't

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know what you're going to hear when you tune in because we don't follow any of the scripts.

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So that, you know, Candace Owens doing that. Good for her. More of that,

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more of those type of conversations, even if they're wrong, just listen to people.

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Yeah. Because, look, we're all you know, JFK talked about this in his

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1963 American University speech about, you know, we're we're all mortals. You know, we all inhabit

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have this small planet. You know, we all breathe the same air. We all cherish our children's future.

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We're all mortal. There's there's some truth to that. You know, there's degrees of evil and

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there's degrees of corruption. And I understand that. But I think more, you know, what did

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Winston Churchill say, Don? More, more jaw, jaw, less war, war, something like that.

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That's you, Don.

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I looked at it and Billy Ray mentioned a lot. So I believe, Billy, that was the only mention

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of the left temple. Basically, he said he proved that I'm a crackhead. OK. And she said, yes,

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it could be. But she didn't mention about his niece, who apparently, again, unless it's lies,

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was unclothed or half unclothed, 14 years old, several times. There's only a rumor about a 10

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year old Chinese girl being raped. Tony mentioned the images. We saw one image where the girl was

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invasive. She just told you in a very sexy outfit with one walking naked behind.

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Maybe it was all I had, but that should have been Bruce. And then the stuff in Ukraine,

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I wrote tons of articles for the American Free Press about that.

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There's so much there, there, it's not even funny. And the big guy Joe was involved in too,

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apparently. She didn't broach that subject once. To me, it was indistinguishable from Oprah.

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She was Oprah. That was an interview Oprah would have been, feel good, these guys, these guys,

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and you know, feel like I told you, let me tell you, it was devastating, especially from her

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reputation. If you watch the guy she interviewed before that, it wasn't funny. This guy, Marx,

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who was running for governor or something, was connected to Erika Crank. He was like a pit bull.

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Because again, she was all over him and just, you know, and that's her usual interview style.

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He turned full over for this. He was kissing his ass. You might as well have been on the

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knees in front of him. It was sketchy. And yet he came off and he has cracked teeth now,

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so I didn't have the rotted teeth in the crack anymore. He came off as, oh, he's not so bad,

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you know, maybe he's not. And he compared his resume to Donald Trump's sons and stuff like

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that. And she just nodded, everything, you know, and she bad mouthed Trump a lot, which is fine.

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She said, well, of course he's got to be receptive to that. So, and people are just a couple of

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people saying my mic is choppy. I don't know what the hell I can do about this. I haven't heard that

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for a while. But so, you know, I don't understand. I think she's going to lose a lot of support,

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but I don't know. I guess, I don't know. Maybe she's, she's got a cult too. There's no question

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about it. But for me, in words, because she's Jason Whitlock now become a number one, two punch.

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I've watched their podcasts all the time. And, you know, I like, I'm definitely, I already

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contacted Dana Duda. Hopefully I can get her on for this week because I want to see what she's

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done research on Candace and apparently found some interesting stuff on her. So I'm sure she,

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you know, I just thought, well, something to say about this interview. And I, again, I think that

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regardless of whether Billy Ray and people don't believe any of it's real, lots of people do.

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And why are you there? Why then other than to question him about this?

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What would be the point? Can you follow me? You know, you finally got in there.

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I mean, what would she do? Which time? Oh, you're a nice guy. Tell us about your family. You know,

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that's basically the same stuff, right? So I don't have it. I think it was incredibly

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disappointing. I think she'll get bad reviews from people over it, but I don't know. Maybe,

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you know, but remember Hunter Biden's going to make the rounds, but he's only been on over

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because this was an important article. Well, yeah, you know, it's a, it goes back to what

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do you want to believe? Right. And it is what it is. Piper Fogle in the chat and Jeannie Poole

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talking about, you know, that people are ignoring evidence. It's it's the narratives that were built

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around some of this stuff. Did Anthony Weiner do inappropriate shit? Absolutely. Nobody's denying

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that. But they said that they had cops that were killed or suicided themselves because of what

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they saw in the Hunter Biden laptop. I mean, in the Weiner lap, Anthony Weiner laptop,

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that it was so freaking vile, you know, and that they had so much stuff that they were going to

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show the people what happened. It's been how many years now? What happened to that? And a lot of

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these cops aren't even dead. Some of them weren't even dead. Right. We researched it. You know,

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so that's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the the muddying of the waters around

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these things. Was Hunter Biden high on crack with hookers? Yes. And he owns that on these tapes,

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you know, but all that kind of humanizing, it gets him away from the knees, this 14 years old.

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And you mentioned earlier, but not that she had done if she had it. That's my point is this.

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If they had something concrete that they could charge him for, they would have. But I don't think

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Trump would ever prosecute anybody. He attempted so supposedly call me and I don't know what

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happened there. It was so he got thrown out. He hasn't gone after anybody. He hasn't gone after

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Steele for the Steele dossier. He's done nothing. He just talks. And so this is par for the course.

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As a DNI, which would not surprise me. But the new DNI, I don't think the comment about why

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are we defending the Biden? First of all, I have in no way defending Hunter Biden. I'm just saying

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for for all intents and purposes, there's so many psyops and disinformation campaigns going on,

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folks, to literally get you to think a certain way. I don't know. And I've never heard Hunter

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Biden actually speak outside of the mainstream media. They've given him like, you know, these

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puff pieces and stuff. And it's I mean, there's a lot of I I hang question marks over everything.

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I'm just saying at the end of the day, isn't it interesting? You know, we're you're not supposed

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to. Candace Owens is not supposed to talk to Hunter Biden. So let him talk is all I'm saying.

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No, absolutely. Nobody defending the I'm not defending the Biden. I mean, the, you know,

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inappropriate showers and weird shit with the corrupt. I mean, I'm not defending any of that.

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So, I mean, just because I'm not partisan and I'm not hung up and, you know, recounting everything

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with this damn laptop, which I've never actually seen, I've just seen reports of it. I do not know.

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I do not know. And I think there's the whole thing about we're supposed to stay in these

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areas and not discuss anything. And I'm supposed to already believe something.

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Well, I suspend that and I reject that, by the way, because that's what got us here.

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And that's why it's why we're just in the same thing, just turning our wheels in the mud

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is because we have the same we're fed. You know why they call it a news feed? Like you feed cattle.

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We're going to get your feed.

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I thought the interview was I'd like the idea I was facing, but it wasn't anything that anyone

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could logically expect. They wouldn't expect, especially to be relentless like him. She was

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she was it was like where you seem back in Bill Clinton's heyday with the girl that said, put on

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your presidential knee pads. It might have been her questioning Bill Clinton. I've never seen such

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softballs. There wasn't. She didn't push back on him. To agree was a crackhead. Well, she was.

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So, I mean, that's that's the closest she came to question him. She didn't say anything. What

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about all the stuff that Rudy Giuliani, all these people say on the on the on the some of the images

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we see nothing, nothing about Ukraine at all. Well, you know, a lot of people speculated that

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she couldn't. Don Jeffries wrote some articles about this stuff. And what is this? What about

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the big guy? What about your father is president? I say bragging that he got the prosecutor firing

394
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videotape. He spoke about that. He spoke about that. Yeah, absolutely. I heard it this morning.

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So, I mean, you guys can go back and listen if you want. Tony Arterburn absolutely on fire today.

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Not that he always isn't. But damn it, man. Absolutely on fire. Check this. I want to play

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this real quick. It's about a minute or two. But but go go watch this entire thing and then we're

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moving on. All right. Let's hope this works. I talk about that often on my show. Like I

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back when I was left leaning in college, my best friend was Republican conservative.

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It wasn't so at each other's throats and hating each other and wanting to destroy one another.

401
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And, you know, you kind of see the good and the bad and go, well, you know, this is why I have

402
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this perspective and perspectives could change. And that was allowed to, you know, I think about

403
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what it was that just revisiting what made a lot of people, including myself, so angry about you.

404
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Or I guess it wasn't really about you. It was the gaslighting. It was the letter that came

405
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from people saying it was Russian propaganda. That is what is driving us crazy about the Epstein

406
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files right now. It's what's actually leading, ironically, to the collapse of the MAGA support

407
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is we don't want to be gaslit. Yeah. And to be fair, it wasn't you. That's why it was so

408
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refreshing. You were like, yes, I had a crack addiction. This is me. I did this. I was with

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hookers. But you weren't speaking for you. And they were they were literally a bunch of people

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that were coming out and saying, this is not real. And that is the most infuriating thing

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for because everyone's average. Everyone can connect with addiction. Everyone could have

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this conversation, actually, if you would come out. And I probably in that environment, obviously,

413
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maybe that would there would have a different result because we were at each other's throats.

414
00:40:13,919 --> 00:40:19,280
Exactly. But that is what made people so angry. It was like, no, he never smoked crack. It wasn't

415
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real. The laptop is Russian propaganda. Guys, what is this? Yeah. By the way, is it here's

416
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the problem is that. Steve Bannon saved and Rudy Giuliani saved the quote unquote laptop,

417
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which, by the way, is bullshit. If we can agree on that gaslighting, I will agree on the gaslighting

418
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of this is that is that it was never a quote unquote laptop. There was a hard drive of stolen

419
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and hack material wherever it came from, whether it came from a Delaware repair shop or whether

420
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it came like Leopard says from Dimitri Firtash, who was trying to sell a hard drive under Biden's

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in in Ukraine, you know, that they were looking for before the laptop repair shop guy was ever

422
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the twinkle in the eye. Just go back and look at the record. OK, so here's the thing.

423
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Is you're absolutely right. And the in this is like the freedom of being able to say this is

424
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like, yeah, they should have let me go out and talk. Yeah, but it was two weeks before the

425
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campaign. And then and then the election was over. Steve Bannon goes on and with his buddy

426
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gal, you know, the Chinese billionaire that's now in prison and, you know, that is like a Chinese

427
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:45,360
spy or whatever, you know, where he got arrested on his boat and all that crap. Is it I mean,

428
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there is a go listen to it. Go listen to the recorded conversation in which they say,

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like the laptop, like we got him. We like, you know, so we put all we collected all the salacious

430
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pictures and we put them out there. And then Rudy went out and stood on the steps of the Newcastle

431
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County courthouse with Bernie Kerik and said this contains child child exploitation, like pure,

432
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you know, I mean, pure bullshit, just bullshit. So on both sides, you have this reaction,

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you know, which I don't think was necessarily a coordinated reaction in the sense that what do

434
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you do in two weeks? And so they come up with this and they say and I don't get to go out and say,

435
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uh, you know, no, I was, but you know what I did? Is it come April? I read a book and I tell

436
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:44,560
everybody I was addicted to crack. And here's my story. And here's what happened. And here is the

437
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:52,080
all of the rooms that no one would ever want to admit to being in that I was in. And, uh, and,

438
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,600
and it was like a blip on the radar because everybody was now fighting about whether

439
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,320
there was kind of a suppressed story on Twitter and whether there was a, um, this gaslighting

440
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from, you know, and by the way, I am not here to defend any. It goes on and on and on. Um,

441
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but, but I think there was a lot we could get from that right there. Um, and, and the fact of

442
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the matter is they never produced any real evidence about some of the things, the, the larger things

443
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that they accused of, uh, that they alleged were in this, uh, laptop or in this hard drive.

444
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They just, she just, she just let him talk. I mean, she, she, she was, uh, uh-huh.

445
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What was she supposed to tell him? It was a tongue bath. It was ridiculous. When he said

446
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about the, the child, she didn't say, well, wait a minute. Now you're talking about the

447
00:43:39,919 --> 00:43:44,000
allegations that a four year, 14 year old niece was naked or half naked on there. Right. And you

448
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:50,080
weren't forced dating your dead brother's, uh, ex-wife. So you obviously were close to this.

449
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Nothing like that. Well, that's what she would normally do to anybody. She was giving him a

450
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tongue bath. It's stunning to watch. I think she destroyed whatever reputation, she destroyed it

451
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with me. And that, that's, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen to not even,

452
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you can say, maybe there's nothing to it and give him a chance to respond. All he did was just say,

453
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I was, and she said, yeah, okay. You, you pranked him as a crack addict. I can't,

454
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it's a wonderful job. Fantastic. What an investigator reporter. You've, you've,

455
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it's probably a psyop baby for, and I believe you, but this guy is something that looks confused.

456
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:31,760
I think it'd be pretty easy for you to grill and you sit back like Oprah and just kept going. Yeah.

457
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Uh-huh. Yeah. Okay. And so, and most of the interview is saying like, and they're just,

458
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you know, faith and you're talking about your faith and how it's, it's, it's, and it's probably

459
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out of character for me. It really is. See how Biden doesn't look half as bad as Candace does.

460
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Candace destroyed herself for this. Well, there's no evidence of that,

461
00:44:52,479 --> 00:44:56,320
Don. So that's the thing. Like what, why, what is she going to throw at him?

462
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What, what, these are just, this is, this is the conspiracy slop.

463
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,239
Julia mentioned in there, what about, what about your, what do you think about your sister,

464
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,959
Ashley? Uh, what about her diary? You know, that, that alleges that the big guy,

465
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,320
you know, was inappropriate with her and messed her up. I mean, she was,

466
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,560
she became promiscuous. She became a drug addict, ruined her life. That's what she claimed.

467
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:22,879
Now, apparently if she had Ashley there, I imagine she probably wouldn't ask him about that.

468
00:45:23,439 --> 00:45:27,360
She probably said, okay, yeah. So what's it like? And how's your dad? Is he a nice guy? You know,

469
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I mean, so yeah, there's so many things, and again, not even touching, he said Ukraine,

470
00:45:34,879 --> 00:45:38,000
he mentioned something, but nothing about, well, yeah, what about the money you supposedly got

471
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:43,439
here and there and, and all the allegations against you, nothing. She does great research

472
00:45:43,439 --> 00:45:48,560
usually, but she did nothing here. I said there's, you could not have done a worse job than she did.

473
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:54,399
Hey, Billy, um, you might want to reset your mic really quick. You got, you have just a little

474
00:45:54,399 --> 00:46:01,280
bit of static coming through, but I, I, Don makes some great points and I, I want to,

475
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:07,600
I want to go back to that because I think what's most important here is, is not exonerating

476
00:46:07,919 --> 00:46:12,239
Biden for any of the things that still hang over all of this stuff. And there's a lot of

477
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:18,879
unanswered questions and the reputation of the, the Biden family and the corruption of Joe Biden,

478
00:46:18,879 --> 00:46:25,199
like that's not questioned to me. Um, like there's not an exoneration here at any level.

479
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:34,320
I just find it interesting that things have gotten so bad from our perceived, you know,

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the perception that we had of right left and power structure and what, you know,

481
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,479
MAGA was and Trump and all these political movements, things have gotten so corrupt and

482
00:46:44,479 --> 00:46:51,120
so disillusioned that people are willing to sit down and watch Hunter Biden talk to Candace Owens.

483
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That's what I'm saying. It's bizarre. And it could be really good because we're a lot of the,

484
00:46:58,399 --> 00:47:04,080
the fever is breaking on all these issues and what we perceived as the good guys,

485
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:09,280
which I've always find the whole thing about MAGA and Trump has always been bizarre to me because

486
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:14,959
you know, it's Rudy Giuliani has the laptop. Well, he's the guy that sold off all the steel to China

487
00:47:14,959 --> 00:47:18,399
for the world trade centers, you know, and made sure lickety split that stuff was out of there.

488
00:47:18,399 --> 00:47:22,320
And he wasn't in building seven at the command center where he was supposed to be on all that

489
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:27,199
stuff. There's all these questions that hang over it. And he's somehow the good guy. You know,

490
00:47:27,199 --> 00:47:34,159
there's all these things that the narratives are collapsing. So I'm just asking people not to

491
00:47:34,159 --> 00:47:40,800
give Hunter Biden a pass. It's just to simply observe this because this is, this is something

492
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,120
that's new on the horizon. I think there's something to, to pay attention to that.

493
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:49,360
The narratives are collapsing. There may be more dialogue. You might learn something.

494
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:57,760
I mean, there, there is such a thing as, you know falsehoods, right? We could be living inside of a

495
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:03,760
perceived, you know, the, you know, Plato's cave type situation where maybe, maybe we got it wrong

496
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:10,959
on a whole bunch of stuff. It's always good to suspend your, you know, previous beliefs and just

497
00:48:10,959 --> 00:48:16,719
let, you know, let reality unfold and then make a new decision with new evidence.

498
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,080
Billy, you're muted, buddy.

499
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,280
Can you hear me now?

500
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:26,560
Yeah, yeah.

501
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,000
Do I sound better or am I still cracking?

502
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,199
It's still cracking a little bit. You're cracking like Hunter Biden, buddy.

503
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:31,919
Well, damn it.

504
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,360
It's just, it's just a little bit though.

505
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:43,199
You know, I'll go back to, what was it, something that Jackson T. Barrett was saying that, that

506
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,479
me and Don allow you to hijack. What is he saying?

507
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,360
Yeah, yeah. He's been saying a lot. He also wants us to read the chat out loud. There's

508
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,399
so many comments in the chat. Why don't we, we can't read the entire chat.

509
00:48:54,399 --> 00:48:55,840
Well, and he said something earlier.

510
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,159
Talk, talk to him.

511
00:48:58,159 --> 00:49:03,840
He's like, Tony and Don always let BRV poison, contaminate, hijack every conversation. It is

512
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,000
sick. I mean, I don't, well, I'm not Billy's handler.

513
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,399
I think I'm pushing back pretty much. I don't know.

514
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,879
I think we're all having, this is great. I think we're all kind of having a different

515
00:49:15,439 --> 00:49:19,120
revelation, watching the same thing. What do you want an echo chamber? I'm not going to control.

516
00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:23,040
Well, he's a grown man. This is, you know, I think, I think we're all good.

517
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,840
We're not going to do echo chamber stuff. And it's funny earlier, he said,

518
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,040
and I'm giving you way too much attention, Jackson Barrett. I told you, if you didn't get

519
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,879
your profile picture, I was going to, we're going to, we're going to have a vote and you have to

520
00:49:34,879 --> 00:49:40,800
put something that we choose up. But he said, I needed to do like my research on, I guess,

521
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:48,719
elections. Man, I bankrupted myself doing that. Like I was with a guy, I ran for office. I ran

522
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,800
for Congress. I did that. I bankrupted myself. I was a true believer. I did, I did everything,

523
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,879
you know, and I've been inside the political process and the, you know, the Congressman

524
00:49:56,879 --> 00:50:03,520
that I helped, the last World War II veteran. And I was his surrogate, you know, and the guy

525
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,919
that I was running against was John Radcliffe. He's now head of the CIA. I mean, I got to see how

526
00:50:08,479 --> 00:50:14,239
the political process works from the inside. And so I know, I know a thing or two about that. And

527
00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:17,360
you know, it took me years to dig out of that hole.

528
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:25,760
Jackson Tee also said that he basically has thrown out some Trump 4D chess theory.

529
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,800
He's basically kind of, if I understand him, he's basically saying,

530
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,959
Candace, let Hunter Biden talk and hang himself.

531
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,679
She let him hang herself. So that's, that's Trump 4D chess stuff.

532
00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:47,840
Well, you know, I'm glad Jackson brought that up about me hijacking conversations,

533
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,879
because everybody that's like, against what I have to say, as soon as I start talking,

534
00:50:52,879 --> 00:50:58,320
I'm hijacking a conversation, or I'm taking over, or I don't let people talk. I mean,

535
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:05,600
this is utter nonsense. If you think that, it's not hijacking a conversation. I'm giving my

536
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:12,000
opinion. That's the point of the show. So you may not agree with my opinion, but I'm not hijacking

537
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:17,520
the conversation. One thing you, if you agree with or not, I don't care, is that there is no

538
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:23,919
evidence. There is no evidence. Produce it. That is a fact. You want to disagree with the facts,

539
00:51:23,919 --> 00:51:30,800
that's fine. Okay. You know, so you want to call this hijacking the show. I mean, I don't know

540
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,800
what to tell you. And that goes out to everyone, because there's many people that say that,

541
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:39,120
mainly on Don's channel, goes out to you. I'm not hijacking the show. I'm giving my opinion.

542
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:44,800
If you are that triggered by my opinion, you have Hunter Biden derangement syndrome,

543
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:50,479
you have Democrat derangement syndrome, and you definitely have BRV derangement syndrome.

544
00:51:51,439 --> 00:51:55,760
I want BRV derangement syndrome. You can never have BRV derangement syndrome.

545
00:51:58,159 --> 00:52:02,239
All right, all right, all right. Closing thoughts. Don, what's up, brother? I mean,

546
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,800
we were going to talk about Tulsi, but we hit the hour mark. So.

547
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,239
Yeah, we didn't get to talk about Mark Furman. I talked to him on the show, you know, he died,

548
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:14,159
and just to say a little bit to know that, I guess, Mark Furman was a JFK conspiracy guy.

549
00:52:14,159 --> 00:52:18,479
I had communicated with him a long time ago, and then he ended up, the guy was living in a trailer.

550
00:52:18,479 --> 00:52:23,120
A couple of years later, he wrote a ridiculous book that said Oswald did it for money. So,

551
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he got sucked into something there, but people have mentioned that. But yeah,

552
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I think that we didn't get to talk about Tulsi, and as our friend Peter Seacost on top of

553
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everything talked about Amaryllis, who is RFK Jr.'s demon, that really broke the person's

554
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CIA connections, but she's a real conspiracy person, and she resigned right before Tulsi did.

555
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So, I suspect that she was the last one, but I don't know what RFK Jr.'s doing. He just,

556
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he looks like he's walking around literally with a, you know, like he's got a muzzle on.

557
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,879
I think he's scared to say anything. I can't believe he needs a job that bad, but I wish

558
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both of them had resigned much earlier and realized, I think they took the job so they

559
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thought they believed Trump's nonsense. But I think he's next, probably. And then I said,

560
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look, Hillary Clinton is going to be taking one of their places.

561
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Let's do it. You've got to get that on Polly Market, Don.

562
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Yeah, that's, that's a hard getting it than a real amount of first person.

563
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I agree with, I mean, Hillary Clinton joining the Trump administration would be,

564
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I think that would actually fit in this matrix of things.

565
00:53:34,639 --> 00:53:35,919
Oh, it'd be perfect.

566
00:53:35,919 --> 00:53:38,639
And MAGA would defend it, like the last 20 guys, you know.

567
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Their cholesterol is higher than their IQ by a long shot.

568
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,560
All right. Let's get up out of here. No new reviews this week. What's going on guys?

569
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What's going on?

570
00:53:51,439 --> 00:53:53,600
More reviews. What's up, Tony? Tell them.

571
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:58,320
Yeah. Five-star review. You can say whatever you want and it can be negative, positive. You can

572
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,520
even, you know, put your resume in there. We'll read it live on air.

573
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:08,080
We got a job. It pays nothing, but you can be the visual director for America Unplugged.

574
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,360
Put up your resume and give us five stars. We'll take a look at it for sure.

575
00:54:12,879 --> 00:54:17,439
Yeah, man. So give us, give us a five-star review if you so choose, man.

576
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There are thousands and thousands of people that listen. We have 127 reviews or something,

577
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,560
I think. And those reviews are a little skewed because, you know,

578
00:54:29,439 --> 00:54:33,520
and those reviews are a little skewed because people have sent me reviews that they've sent,

579
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,520
that Dave's put up and I don't see them. So I don't, I don't know. Tony doesn't see them either.

580
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:42,080
It's not just me. So I don't know what's going on in that. And if you have sent a review in and we

581
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,239
haven't read it, our apologies. We just haven't seen it. It's not because we don't want to read

582
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:54,159
it. So try it again. Yeah. America Unplugged on Apple podcast and anywhere you can find the finest

583
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podcast on Rumble. Our subscribers are going up. Thank you for subscribing. We finally made over

584
00:54:59,199 --> 00:55:06,159
the 800 subscriber mark. Let's keep going. We appreciate that. Thank you so much. Tony Arterburn,

585
00:55:06,159 --> 00:55:10,959
the wisest of all the wolves. Tell the people where they can find you. Website is tony.gold.

586
00:55:10,959 --> 00:55:15,760
You can find my podcast there. You can find links to a wise wolf, gold and silver, a wolf pack,

587
00:55:16,479 --> 00:55:19,840
precious metal subscriptions. You can find all of that. You can contact me.

588
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:24,800
You can, uh, you can send me any, whatever you want. You can go to tony.gold. It's all right

589
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:30,080
there. All right. Fantastic. Don Jeffries, the legendary. What do you got going on tonight?

590
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:34,719
What do you got going on this weekend? I got, I don't see RV ham in the chat, but, uh, the fighting

591
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,639
trucker from Canada beyond, beyond the pale. Again, I'm on there pretty much all the time. 8

592
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PM tonight on his beyond the pale Rumble channel. Uh, and once I'm working on, I, I, she got back

593
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to me. Hopefully I'm going to have my, my girl, uh, Leonardo Johnny on the show. We'll see the

594
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:57,120
comedian. I'm just seeing if she's, I don't love her. She's great. So hopefully she's going to be

595
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:02,080
like, she's been on some big shows. And, um, so I'll be letting you, uh, you guys know that I'm

596
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:06,560
back on next to it. Don mother's day miracle brought me back somehow. I don't know why.

597
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:11,919
And of course, a sub stack, Donald Jeffries, sub stack.com. That's the best way to support me.

598
00:56:11,919 --> 00:56:15,840
I got to tell you, you're my boy and I love you to death. We've been doing this for a long,

599
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:21,199
long time. I'm kind of upset at you, that you haven't given me the proper credit for bringing

600
00:56:21,199 --> 00:56:28,159
back your ex account. I went on air and told Elon Musk what was going to happen if it didn't happen.

601
00:56:28,159 --> 00:56:33,199
And then what happens? Boom. What's true. Like it happened on mother's day. So I'm,

602
00:56:33,199 --> 00:56:37,280
I'm crediting my dear departed mother. I'm just saying somehow she manipulated things.

603
00:56:38,159 --> 00:56:42,080
It sounds good. You know, so that's, I'm calling it the mother's day miracle. So I'm sure all of

604
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:46,239
X is just overjoyed. So I can't argue with that. I was, I was going to take credit for it, but

605
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,199
you shut me down. Unfortunately done. All right. Uh, my name is Billy Ray Valentine,

606
00:56:51,199 --> 00:56:54,399
the gorilla underground goal subscribe. I'm going to start doing episodes again. I'm not

607
00:56:54,399 --> 00:56:58,399
going on this Sunday. I won't be home for all of you wrestling fans. I'm going to be over at

608
00:56:58,399 --> 00:57:02,479
AEW double and nothing. If you're around, come say what's up. I'm going to have a good time.

609
00:57:03,199 --> 00:57:09,439
Um, but, uh, I might go on later tonight. Maybe let's see how to do the fields. Um,

610
00:57:09,439 --> 00:57:14,639
cause there's plenty of stuff to talk about. Freaking Jesse waters was talking about aliens

611
00:57:14,639 --> 00:57:22,080
on Fox news, bro. The fricking Nordics and the insectoids. I'm not lying. That happened.

612
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:28,239
I mean, I, I'm, I'm all about the tall whites. Yeah.

613
00:57:28,719 --> 00:57:33,040
I, I, you know, that's the best way to do this is just say they're tall whites. Cause we've got a

614
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:37,520
tall, a bunch of tall whites walking around here. You know, we just, are they alien? Are they not?

615
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,679
They might be weak. How do we argue that point? So, you know, that's, that's the best, the best

616
00:57:41,679 --> 00:57:46,959
thing to do. Um, so gorilla underground on YouTube, uh, the infinite fringe.podbeam.com

617
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go over there. We'll change at some point. So just stay tuned. Uh, America unplugged at 12

618
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PM Eastern every Saturday. Thank you guys for doing what you do. Uh, whenever somebody's out,

619
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somebody steps up, uh, to fill in. And that's why we continue to do shows week after week.

620
00:58:02,959 --> 00:58:08,479
It's very rare that we're not here. And that's a awesome. And I thank my two brothers in arms,

621
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Mr. Tony Arterburn and Don Jeffries, uh, for helping and, and, and, and, uh, making, making

622
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the show what it is and the community that's here week after week after week, we appreciate you.

623
00:58:19,199 --> 00:58:23,520
Uh, uh, everybody in the chat. What's up? I see cat what's going on. Cat long time. No,

624
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:28,479
see. And Brian's in the chat and angel blue is in the chat. Thank you. Angel blue for the

625
00:58:28,479 --> 00:58:32,320
kind words. And at Rue is in the chat. What did angel blue say about you, sir?

626
00:58:33,199 --> 00:58:38,239
Just that loves my show. She, she's very nice. I, I, I, I always can count on him to say something

627
00:58:38,239 --> 00:58:44,239
nice. Raybo is in the chat. What's up Raybo. How are you? Did you see the comment from, uh,

628
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,479
our busy 1644. Good evening. Greetings from Heathrow airport.

629
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He will, uh, message me every once in a while and say what time it is at Heathrow airport.

630
00:58:57,199 --> 00:59:02,479
And I have to tell him what time it is. He, you know, Heathrow airport went over to the

631
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interview, David Ike, which is my interviews up on my YouTube channel at Tony Arterburn.

632
00:59:06,479 --> 00:59:10,080
Go check that out. If you want to see me and David Ike in his, uh, his studio.

633
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,959
Fantastic interview. Awesome. I believe that James in the chat, what's going on. Harps is

634
00:59:14,959 --> 00:59:20,879
in the chat. I saw Ashley in the chat before what's going on with you. Hey, uh, we are live

635
00:59:20,879 --> 00:59:27,840
from the Bronx, New York city at 1 0 4 PM. Eastern standard time. Let's get a body here,

636
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Tony. Burn the place down. All right, brother. Let's do it. Have a good extended weekend guys.