July 26, 2026

America Unplugged: Is the U.S. Preparing to Topple Cuba?

America Unplugged: Is the U.S. Preparing to Topple Cuba?
America Unplugged: Is the U.S. Preparing to Topple Cuba?
America Unplugged Radio
America Unplugged: Is the U.S. Preparing to Topple Cuba?

On this episode of America Unplugged, hosts Billy Ray Valentine, Don Jeffries and Ashley discuss escalating U.S. rhetoric toward Cuba, recent State Department claims, and the humanitarian effects of grid failures on the island.

They also cover the NDAA and its implications for U.S.–Israel ties, shifting right-wing alliances (including Tucker Carlson and J.D. Vance), concerns about AI data centers, and broader political and populist currents shaping the coming years.

00:38 - Welcome & Introductions

02:47 - Cuba on the Radar: Overview & Concerns

04:22 - US Rhetoric, Marco Rubio & Trump Claims

04:40 - Cuba–Venezuela Oil, Grid Collapse & Hardship

06:31 - State Department 100‑page Report & US Aid

08:39 - Don Jeffries: Historical Context & Critique of Cuba Policy

21:00 - NDAA Discussion & US‑Israel Military Alignment

29:16 - J.D. Vance, Tucker Carlson & GOP Realignment

35:47 - AI Data Centers & Technocracy Concerns

39:00 - NYC Politics, Mayor ‘Mom Donnie’ & Netanyahu Protests

40:33 - Closing Thoughts, Shoutouts & Outro

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What is going on? Welcome to America Unplugged. My name is Billy Ray Valentine.

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No Tony Arterburn here today. Blessings to you,

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Tony, wherever you may be traveling across the globe or

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the plane, depending on what you

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subscribe to. We don't discriminate here on America Unplugged.

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We may criticize, but we certainly don't discriminate. You can, you can come and And

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we can all partake whether we live on a plane or on a globe.

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Ladies and gents, Donald Jeffries the Legendary!

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How are you? What is going on? Uh, good to be here

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and welcome aboard. It looks like some of the Ali Top Files fans from yesterday's

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show are here, so welcome aboard. We had a good discussion. We're chilling.

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As I mentioned before the chat, I'm getting ready for Bob— to see Bob Dylan

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again tonight for I don't know how many times it's been, and getting ready to

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be disappointed. So look for a future Substack where I'll be talking about my bitter

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experience seeing my favorite guy Just want to get in concert.

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Fantastic. If there was ever a reason to sign up to Don's, uh,

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Substack, now is the time. The most riveting,

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uh, story that he ever wrote will, will come out in a, in a matter

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of hours after he sees Bob Dylan, ladies and gents.

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And of course, Ashley is here. How are you, Ashley? What's going on? Think,

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Change, Repeat. We got some books in the bookshelf.

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We're stepping it up. What's going on?

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Well, I'm very happy to be here, and I'm, I'm working on getting this

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office set up. So I have— I'm not on a Buffalo

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Bills crash table anymore. I'm on an actual cheap little

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desk from Facebook Marketplace, and I got my mic stand back.

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It was in a coffee cup for a while, so we're elevating. And I've got

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my, my cat-mounted— my desk-mounted cat

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beds over here for those guys to work. There you go. We're in

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great shape. We are moving along fantastic. I am still in the kitchen.

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Uh, maybe one day I will graduate out of the kitchen, but until

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then, I am in the kitchen. Ladies and gentlemen, this is where I am.

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It's a really big kitchen. It's an old-school kitchen

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which allows me to be in it. Uh, but you know, hey, it is

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what it is. All right, man, a lot of things went on this week.

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Uh, Ashley wants to talk about Cuba. Cuba is on the radar.

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We spoke about this a few months ago, of course. I mean, it's pretty evident

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to anybody that's been following what's been going on what

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Marco Rubio's intentions are, right? And, uh,

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I, I— if I remember correctly, Donald Trump said

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a few months ago— maybe I'll find the clip and play it here— he was

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like, I'm gonna have the honor of toppling Cuba. It's gonna be me.

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I'm going to do it. You know, like it's, like it's a badge of honor

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of some sort. He's like, no other president did it. I'm going to do it.

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I wonder what they told him, you know, because Trump is

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becoming increasingly evident that Trump has no idea what the fuck is going on.

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So people are telling him things and he just believes it and regurgitates

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whatever they tell him. Whatever— you are going to be the man to bring about

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change in Cuba. Finally, it's going to be you.

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You are the Messiah, you know. Um, quite literally,

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you know, these people are calling him, uh, you know, the conduit of God.

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Pretty much. There was— I played it on Guerrilla Underground about 2 weeks ago—

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that there was this lady that opened up a portal supposedly over

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the White House so Donald Trump and God could have

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direct communication because, you know, the clouds were getting in the way. So she

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was like, yeah, I'm gonna open up a port. I did open up a portal.

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And I'm like, when the hell did you think God

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needed your help to do this? You know, you needed to be

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the one. But, but this is what people are thinking. Overall. So we're going to

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talk about that. Don Jeffries wants to talk about the NDAA,

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so we will talk about that. I got a clip of Elon Musk,

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uh, talking about his support for the far right, so I'm

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gonna play that and we'll talk a little bit about that. But Ashley,

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I'm going to turn it over to you. We're going to start with you.

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Um, tell us about Cuba. Tell us what, what, what,

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uh, prompted concern, uh, for you.

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Okay, so one of the things that— it's exactly like what you said. This has

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kind of been on our radar for the last couple months at least.

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But through Venezuela, Cuba was

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receiving assistance in free oil, supposedly, according to

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Little Marco. And once the coup from the United States

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happened and Maduro was taken out in Venezuela, then that was one way to prevent

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Cuba from receiving any more oil. Then Donald

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Trump threatened Claudia Sheinbaum in Mexico.

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Order to coerce her to stop supporting them as well. So then

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what we've been having is the rhetoric from Marco Rubio and the

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State Department is continually heating up and that Cuba is more

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and more on the radar. But we also now have

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grid collapse that has been happening on

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and off. But definitely they had what was considered like a

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full grid collapse in maybe around July 6th,

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like that first full week of July.

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And we know that it's been incredibly hot,

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that people, you know, are struggling with air conditioning, keeping their food

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from spoiling, just basic things. And the United

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States is absolutely putting the squeeze on Cuba in order to

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supposedly bring about regime change. We know that the leader is

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now Raul Castro, which is Fidel's

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brother. And he's about— well, actually, I think someone else,

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he may be the figurehead and maybe You guys can let me know on that.

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But he is in his upper, I think like 94,

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95 years old. They just issued an indictment for him for a

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30-year-old crime when

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a plane was shot down over Cuban airspace. So all these kind

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of factors are coming together. And then this last week,

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the State Department issued a 100-page

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report. And if I may just read the The first paragraph

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of that is really incredible, especially in light of what we

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know about the Israeli lobby and the Israeli influence

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in the United States. It's actually, it's unbelievable that they're saying

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this. But it starts out by saying, for nearly 7 decades, the Cuban

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regime has waged a sustained campaign of subversion against

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the United States. It is a campaign that has infiltrated the

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highest reaches of the U.S. government, recruited and cultivated generations

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of American activists, backed an unprecedented a wave of left-wing

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terrorism on American soil and carried out one of the most durable and

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damaging foreign intelligence penetrations in American history.

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So that's really galling. And then the other thing that I find interesting

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is that the United States has said that they are sending $100 million

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in aid to Cuba, and that is starting

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in incremental shipments. So this past week, around the same time

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that this document was issued by the State Department, the first deliveries of

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those supplies were delivered to Cuba.

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And then what they're saying is that they are,

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um, the supplies and care packages and things like that are

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being delivered by a Catholic organization and also

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some of the other religious organizations within the country to try

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to make sure that people actually get it and there isn't government interference. Now,

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what's actually going on with that, I have no idea, and I wanted to

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get you know, both of your thoughts on this and, and maybe a little of

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the background from Cuba as well. Obviously, we had the,

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um, Cuban Missile Crisis, and then we had

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Barack Obama who began sort of those diplomatic relations

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with Cuba, and the people were able to actually

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go visit, and, uh, they had a tourism industry

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at that time. And now all of that has kind of dried up again as

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the, the people of Cuba are really suffering.

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Don Jeffries, what's up, sir? Yeah, certainly. Well, this is— it's

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really shocking to me that of all of Trump's incredibly stupid foreign policy,

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uh, rhetoric that he, that he's again just coming

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up with, this— the idea of even talking about Cuba flies in

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the face of everything he ran for in 2016 especially.

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This is the antithesis of bringing the troops home and no more

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senseless wars. It just— he's looking everywhere for something to do.

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Cuba, he's, he's resurrecting something that,

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you know, I'm very familiar with having researched the JFK assassination for so long.

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And so many people, uh, have been fooled by what I

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think is— my book Pipe the Bimbo in Red, I think we showed that that

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was a, uh, you know, a false lead, that Cuba had nothing to do with

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the JFK assassination. But they manipulated a whole bunch of anti-Castro Cubans around Oswald,

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and they maneuvered him into becoming the patsy. But it had

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nothing to do with Cuba. Nothing happened after the JFK assassination

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There was no second Bay of Pigs. Cuba died as a campaign issue.

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LBJ never tried to do anything. All the people in the CIA that wanted Castro

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gone never attempted to kill him again. Nixon never attempted to

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do it. Reagan never— nothing. And Castro outlived all of them. Now his brother's still

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alive. It— I don't know what they're talking about. And that the,

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the nonsense that this is, you know, 5, 6, whatever they claim, 50 years of—

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what do they give? An example. That, that's, that's dumber than saying Iran

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has killed so many Americans. What are you talking about? What is—

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I mean, I guess you could go back to the '60s and into the '70s

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when they had all these hijackings, which, you know, I wasn't old enough

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to question it then, but I probably would have questioned if they're even real or

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they're fake. I don't know. But usually they attributed them to Cuba at that

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time. Let's hijack a plane and take it to Cuba. That's what we were told

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then. But that's the only thing I can think of where they did anything.

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And there was an embargo. Again, one of the— again, I'm certainly never

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going to become a fan of Barack Obama, but, you know, he, he did a

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few good things and he was starting to, uh, He did. I think he's

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the one that eventually lifted the embargo on Cuba, which we had for a long

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time. So, um, and of course JFK,

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despite— was, was starting to, uh,

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rapprochement with Cuba. He had gone through a, a woman who

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was a reporter who later ended up dying mysteriously, like so many of these people.

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He was using her as a conduit. I forget her name. But, um,

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this is shocking to me that— that— what are you talking about?

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He's going to be the finally one that— I guess maybe he's going to try

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to get it done while there's a Castro still alive. I don't know. Caster Avenue

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Sons maybe can do something like this. This is so stupid.

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And if you look at the MAGA people, it's the Charlie Kirk

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thing or any of these other things, they are so— the

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ones that are left, I mean, I, I saw a poll that 80— Trump has

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a higher rating among Republicans now of any president, I guess,

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at this point in their term, which is just amazing to me. But again,

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it's among Republicans. So how many people have have stopped calling

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themselves Republicans, I'm guessing, because it was— it's hard to believe that— it

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certainly can't be that he has 80-some percent, uh, approval rating

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of the 70 million or whatever voted for him in the last election.

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So, but what are they approving? And now that you're throwing this into it,

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you already had the Venezuela stuff, you had the disastrous war in Iran,

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the Zionism which has taken over the administration,

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where we, we're little Israel. Israel isn't little. We're little Israel at this point

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because they're, they're running things. And now Cuba?

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You're bringing back a campaign issue. What was the other issue in

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1960? Was Camoy and Matsui, who I'm sure there's not one American

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in 100 million that knows what the hell that's about, but that was an issue

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in 1960. Maybe Trump will bring that back too. I mean,

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because I mean, I, you know, what are you talking about? He will do it

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at this point. He's doing everything to distract

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people from how badly America is collapsing.

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Everything. So just keep pointing over there, over there, over there, and, and trying to

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get these stupid people that still support him to applaud, you know,

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repainting the reflecting pool or putting up another coat of

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gold in the White House or, or, you know, building this stupid ballroom.

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That's his entire administration now, is that? Because he literally hasn't done anything

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he promised to do. So I must have missed the thing about, uh, you know,

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going back into Cuba. I don't remember him talking about that at all, but This

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is just another disaster. It makes no sense. It has— and what Ashley read coming

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from the State Department, it's so— it might as well come out

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of the Ministry of Truth in Oceania under Orwell. It has absolutely nothing.

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It's so not— it's, it's exact opposite of what

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the historical truth is. You know, we screwed with Cuba for too long,

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and, uh, you know, Cuba didn't do anything to us except some probable faked hijackings.

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That would be it. There were individual Cubans, but, uh, Just another disaster.

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I don't know how anybody can support it. Um,

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what, what Ashley read just reeks of Stephen Miller to me.

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It, it just— it's like it has Stephen Miller's DNA all over

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it. Yeah, you know, um, just, uh, especially the left-wing

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terrorist aspect of it. Cat, cat sighting, cat sighting,

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ladies and gentlemen, there is a cat. I see a cat,

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just letting you guys know, okay? Our ratings just went up.

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There's a cat on screen right now. Yeah,

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but Stephen Miller, and thank the Lord, 'cause I was talking about Stephen Miller,

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which absolutely sucks, and cats don't. So that kind of shifts the scales.

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But regardless, it sounds a lot like something that Stephen

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Miller would do. And here's my deal with the Trump administration.

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I'm sure this was— Marco Rubio has had a hard-on for

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this for forever and ever and ever and ever. So now that he's in and

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he has some type of power, he's in Trump's ear, probably with his

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tongue very deep in it, you know. Um, he's,

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uh, making his case, uh, to, to, to, to have

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probable regime change, even though I don't think they've been successful at any of this

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that they've tried to do. They, they probably told Trump that it was going to

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be a Venezuela-like, um,

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scenario where they're in and out, you know, they topple it and, and go out

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of there. Well, they're— they cut off, uh, the oil supply,

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uh, from Venezuela, and then they threaten everybody else with tariffs

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that, uh, want to give Cuba any, any oil in

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any way, right? Um, there are rolling blackouts in Cuba 20

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hours at a time. You know, it's freaking nuts what

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those people have had to endure my

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entire lifetime since I've been alive, you know.

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Um, but, uh, somebody is as usual manipulating

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Donald Trump here, uh, because Donald Trump doesn't have a clue.

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He, he— the dude could, could barely stand

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sometimes. Like, there are some serious issues that we need to discuss about

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Donald Trump Everybody was shitting all over Joe Biden,

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and I'm not saying that wasn't justified, but use the same energy with this piece

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of crap and the way he looks right now and the way he's, he's acting

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and, and moving. But I think, uh, this is Marco Rubio.

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I think this is, uh, Stephen Miller. I think, I think it's the people

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of that ilk that are manipulating Donald Trump into thinking that this

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is a good idea. And since the guy is a blithering idiot, he thinks

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it's a good idea. This is why we're in the mess that we're in in

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Iran, because this doofus doesn't know any better,

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and neither does Pete Hegseth for that matter. Um, but Rubio and

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Miller are different, you know. Um, they, they, they know some things,

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and, and they're playing this game, and they're, they're manipulating to get what it

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is they want. I feel very sorry for the people of Cuba,

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and I think Ashley's absolutely right. They're gonna go in there.

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It's only a matter of time. It's on— they have—

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we have 2 more years plus of this left. They're gonna

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have to continue to cover up, up for his, uh, his mentions

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in the, in the Epstein files in some, some fashion,

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right? Things are gonna die down at some point and Epstein will inevitably

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resurface. So they're gonna go invade another country. They're thinking about

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invading Mali, uh, reports have, have said that

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they're doing that. Like, what the hell is that about? Um, the president of

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peace is responsible for creating war

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on different continents at this point, you know.

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So it's, it's, it's a very scary situation. Uh, I feel sorry

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for my Cuban brothers and sisters. Uh, please endure. Try— I mean,

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you guys know that you guys have no other choice, you know. Um, but it

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doesn't look good. I'm not, I'm not optimistic about the, the outcome

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here. I think the United States is going to move in there in some

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capacity, and what they're doing now is bad enough. Ashley, I'm gonna turn

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it back to you. Yeah, well, I just wanted to say too that it's

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really interesting, this kind of idea that the United States is

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being stretched too thin, because that's one of the things is

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that they, um, you know, we have been getting this rhetoric,

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this messaging throughout the Iran conflict that

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the United States is running out of missiles. You know,

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never in my entire life have I ever heard that kind

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of information or that kind of those talking points that

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we're almost out of missiles. And then we

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have this boiling pot basically that this on-again,

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off-again conflict with Iran and it seems to

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be continuing to escalate. And then we have the,

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you know, the Saudi-Yemen conflict that's kind of escalating.

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And then we have the Russia-Ukraine that's escalating. All these events slow

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boiling, but there's a a lot going on here. And I feel like it

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is in Cuba a little more off the radar. And I

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think that you're right that Marco Rubio is intimately involved in this. Obviously,

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his Cuban heritage, but he also has a lot of other

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connections. His brother-in-law was a drug trafficker that

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he worked for as a 16-year-old kid. Maybe he

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had nothing to do with that. Maybe there was truly nothing on that

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part. But I find it interesting, particularly with his other

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connections in Latin America and the work that he's been doing there. The other

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factor that I find interesting, and I'm not saying that I have any answer or

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what this would mean, but the Cuban Americans. So I believe

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there's about, there was like a million Cubans that were

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able to come here. And for the most part, my understanding

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is that they were very successful. And a

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lot of that contingency was in South Florida.

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And South Florida was very important in the Trump administration.

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And it seems like a lot of these people who are this

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very anti-communist ideology from Cuba, that they,

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that they support this rhetoric. I don't know. Um, I find it very

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weird because the people there are suffering. And,

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and I think that they— I don't know, are they saying it's worth making

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it worse because of communism? It's, it's not our business.

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You know, if the people of Cuba want change, then they can facilitate that without

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the help of the United States. Um, and certainly without the United States making it

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worse. But I'm worried that they're trying to make it worse simply so

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people will, you know, will lose it and riot and

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whatever because they're starving and they have no energy and they can't get healthcare,

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uh, because if someone needs to go to the hospital, the hospital may not

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have electricity. Like, all these things, I, I— it's an— it's a mess.

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Well, those people are strong and resourceful. They've been going through it

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for some time. I think, uh, while Trump is,

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is probably going to move in there in some capacity, and that's not good,

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he's going to run into another Iran problem. Um,

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uh, the, the people of, of Cuba are very strong, very strong people

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and very resourceful because they've had to be. Uh, they've had

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no other choice but to be that, you know. Um, sucks. It sucks

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to see this. I— we could have avoided this, but here we are.

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So now we, we have to deal with this plus whatever else comes on top

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of that. Uh, what time do we have here? All right, it is 22

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or 27. It's— we're at the midpoint already. Don Jeffries, I'm turning

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it over to you. Um, you wanted to discuss, uh,

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the NDAA, so go right ahead, sir. Get into it.

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Yeah, well, our Congress— I mean, again, this is— and again, you look at what's

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left of the MAGA movement, and again, I, I argue with them on X,

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and it's, it's just astonishing to me. They, they just have the capacity

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to just re— you know, rethink everything every day, whatever Trump says,

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and that's, that's their new reality, the ones that are staying around. But, uh,

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they're insisting that nothing has changed, that,

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uh, we, we're not officially aligned with Israel now.

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Well, all I know is that's the way it reads, that we are, you know,

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we're like one military, our military and Israel. I mean, that's— if

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that ends national sovereignty, we thought national sovereignty was ending when we left the southern

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border open for 4 decades or whatever, uh, that, you know, we didn't have a

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border, you know, that, that was a pretty strong indication we weren't

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a sovereign nation. But when you, you've been Israel's lapdog for

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as long as we have, and then you make it official, and that's what they've—

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couple them, so it just makes it official, like that's, that's a good thing.

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And what's really shameful is that we're— there's nowhere to go politically

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because, you know, I said, as, as crazy as my old party, the Democrats,

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are, almost all of them voted, you know, against doing this,

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which is shocking to me. But, you know, that, that they're the voice. But when

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you, you have to depend on those most of them are clinically insane,

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crazy woke people. They're the voice of reason because the Republicans are

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absolutely sold out. Massie, I think, was the only one that,

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uh, that voted against it. Of course, they got rid of him. So this is

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a disgrace because what has happened is that they already divided

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the country with, with Trump, the Trumpenstein Project. When they came in,

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they killed off that third-party movement. They thought they did. I don't

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know what's going to happen with Tucker Carlson. And you know You know I'm going

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to be sucked in again, Billy Ray, when they do. Tucker Carlson is going to

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smile at me and talk really sincerely, and I'm going to be right back

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in there. I may even vote again, who knows. But he's going

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to say all the right things and he's going to suck people in. And,

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uh, so that's probably going to happen. But because Democrats and Republicans are

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hopeless now, and so on one hand, that's,

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you know, this is maybe good that Trump's turning to

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this dark side, is killing off that independent part of

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MAGA. And what's left are the people that can somehow, you know,

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support Little Marco or whatever he is, who doesn't look that little to

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me. He stands next to Trump and he seems almost as tall as him.

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So I don't, I don't know, you know, where they got the Little Marco from.

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But, uh, regardless, he's, he's terrible, Marco,

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because he would just be awful. I've seen the things about his past. Somebody said

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he ran a— in a chat that he ran a, a, a drug drop

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or a drug house or something as an adolescent in Miami. I don't know.

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I know he's got lots of connections, but he's He's a globalist. He's everything that

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Trump ran against. Trump ridiculed him. So of course he's his right-hand

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man now. That just sounds— and J.D. Vance, again,

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Peter Thiel and all, but he sounds like the best thing in the— you know,

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he, he looks like he's not with the program. Every time he does an interview,

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he says things he's not supposed to say. He clearly doesn't— positioning himself,

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Don. Well, yeah, he is. Well, he is. I think he is.

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But again, I, I'm not sure what happened there. And so Trump probably— I'm surprised

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Trump doesn't fire him and find some way to do that. Uh,

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it's, it's a disaster politically, and the void is being set there for a

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third party. And Zionism is going to be the new breakdown.

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The left-right paradigm, good thing it's dead,

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because you look at, again, you look at the, you know, people like Ro Khanna

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or whatever, people like that in, in Congress who I would oppose on a lot

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of things, but he's really great on the Israeli issue and the foreign policy

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issue. And a lot of the Democrats are like that. The Crazy Squad,

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who, you know, I think they hate all white people. They'd probably hate me,

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but I would certainly align with him on Israel and a lot of these other

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things. And so we may have to make strange alliances now, but it's—

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this, this is just— imagine what George Washington or John Quincy Adams, who said

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America doesn't go abroad in search of monsters to destroy,

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but what would they think of, of, you know, we're aligning— we've

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not only created this little country in another part of the world that

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they claim is theirs, they're entitled to by God.

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Imagine any other religion trying to do that. What would we portray them as?

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All these religious kooks, they're like the Branch Davidians, we have to go kill them,

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they're insane, they think their God has told them this land belongs to them.

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But no, here, oh, everybody, yeah, well, you know, they're the chosen people,

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God granted this land. And the Greater Israel Project says that they think

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there's a lot more land, because why do they keep bombing Lebanon?

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Lebanon's not Iran, but they just bomb whoever they want and just make up a

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terrorist group. Well, it's Hezbollah in Lebanon, it's Hamas over

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here, you know. Maybe it'll be the Muslim Brotherhood somewhere

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else, or, uh, you know, some new,

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uh, you know, Sharia law. It's insane.

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And so many people are fed up with it. It's not working.

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The Ben Shapires of the world, and when you read them online He literally called

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people goys the other day. He called Tucker Carlson, he said that's

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nothing but goy slop. So they're coming, they're, they're the monsters that far

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right-wing people used to talk about. They're— he's literally calling Luna—

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oh, did she? She did something

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that mattered for once. My girl did that? Oh,

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that's nice. She won me back a little bit. You know, I'm smitten with her.

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But she— but she— I thought she was in Israel's hip pocket. Oh, that's good

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to— good to hear. Okay, good for her. She's great on the JFK assassination,

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all the other stuff. But, uh, I don't know if she's great on it,

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she just regurgitates surface. Well, she's paying attention to it at

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least, and she seems to be, which, which nobody else has done that but in

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Congress for a long— I would have loved to have seen somebody like her in

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Congress in 1976 when we were lobbying with Mark Lane's group trying

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to get them to reopen it, because there weren't very many who were talking like

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her back then. So I would love to have seen that. But, um,

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so I, I don't know where it's going, but when you get to the point

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where this stuff. And I don't know why they're letting us

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talk about the Zionism and Jewish power and all that, but they are.

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They— I see Don Lambert. But, um, and you

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know, a lot of people think they're only letting us do this for a reason.

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They're trying to get us out into the light so they can round us up

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in the FEMA camps. I don't know. But I know that when a Ben Shapiro

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type is calling— and again, Tucker Carlson, most people think he's phony

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too, but he's playing the part of the other side. And he's being called Goy

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now, which is what, you know, again, this is, this is amazing to

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me that this stuff— I don't know what it means or where it's going,

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but you can't put that genie back in the bottle when you got millions of

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people that understand that, you know,

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you have this whatever it is, this group that now

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controls us to an extent that our military is officially intertwined

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with ours. And I don't know what that means for budgetary reasons. We already give

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them whatever they want. So I'd like to see the details of that, but whatever

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it is, it can't be good. When you get to that point where you have,

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uh, the far-left people that are wrong about almost everything in my view

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now, but they're the only ones that we can turn to now in

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terms of Israel and stopping Zionism. We— it has

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to— that's— it's not left-right anymore. It's not that conservative. I don't want

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to hear anything from conservatives anymore. What are you conserving?

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You want to conserve this Zionist power? Totally done. Yeah, I mean,

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it's changed. It's changed everything. So we have— it's Zionism versus anti-Zionism.

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That's what the breakdown is now. And I think you're saying somebody like Tucker,

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who never used to mention Zionism on his Fox show, maybe he couldn't.

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And but, but now that's on his mind all the time, and he's

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being called every name in the book. He's a Nazi,

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anti-Semite, he's Hitler Jr., all these kinds of things.

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So I don't know, but it's, it's It's never ceased to be interesting. And like

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I said, I'm a political junkie. I'm like a heroin addict. So I should just

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stop paying attention to it, but then I can't stop paying attention to sports either.

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So it's the same thing. I'm addicted to these things like a heroin addict,

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Joe. I think, I think we need to be very careful for,

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uh, for all— I mean, I think a lot of the people that are tuned

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in right now will be tuned in after the fact. Even if we disagree

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wildly on a lot of things, I think we'll agree on this.

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Um,

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Peter Thiel is responsible for

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J.D. Vance. J.D. Vance has

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shifted, uh, his tone and his

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rhetoric to oppose a lot of the things that are going

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on now because they realize that this is over.

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We still have 2 and a half years to endure of a dead

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presidency. MAGA is dead for all intents and purposes.

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The cult still exists, but the, the, the big wave

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that we had at one point, that's gone. It's over.

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So JD Vance astutely,

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and probably, uh, along with Peter Thiel, is like, well,

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let's shift it. Let's get those people that are disillusioned and

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let's present you, let's present you as a

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viable alternative in 2028. And I

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don't think it's any coincidence that Tucker

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Carlson has also shifted and

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he is actively promoting J.D.

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Vance. He even went as far as to say that J.D. Vance should have been

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the president in 2024,

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you know. And I'm like, oh, I see where this is going. So, um,

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here we go with the push. And I was having a conversation with Twisted months

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ago, and when, uh, when these people, all of them started turning at once,

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you know, um, from different areas of the alt-right, from moderate alt-right to

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deep alt-right, they all started turning on Trump, right,

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together. Candace Owens, uh, um,

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Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, uh,

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Nick Fuentes, all of these people. And he

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said, he goes, uh, Tucker Carlson

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is probably going to start supporting J.D. Vance at some point. They're going to talk

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all of this nonsense, and then he's going to start supporting J.D. Vance. And that's

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exactly what they're doing. That's exactly the shift.

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We've got to start looking at the connections between Peter Thiel and Tucker

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Carlson. We, we really do

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at this point. And I— and, and this— I think ultimately all of this is

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going, is going to be unsuccessful. Uh, maybe that's

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me hoping. This is what I want to believe. I don't know. We'll find out,

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you know, in 2028 what happens.

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Um, but I feel like that's what's going

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on. It's very obvious to me. I don't trust J.D.

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Vance. I don't think I can ever come to trust the J.D. Vance. That doesn't

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mean I won't agree on some of the things that he's saying, but I don't

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trust him, right? I don't trust the motives as to why he's saying the things

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he's saying. And I don't think I'll ever trust Tucker Carlson.

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I just, I just can't, right? They've, they've changed. They're chameleons

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for, for all of this, for, for money, you know, for opportunity.

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They ride the wave that will get them the most clicks. That'll get

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them the most visibility, uh, that'll get them paid,

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you know. So I'm, I'm not, uh, I'm not subscribing

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to the whole JD Vance is saying the right thing.

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I think he's— I think it's very evident as to why he's doing it

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if you're paying attention. Ashley, what's up?

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Well, the other thought that I have is, yes, there's the JD Vance piece,

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and obviously the, the, oh, uh, RB Hamm said

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that JD Vance is the creature of the technocratic

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oligarchy. And, uh, yeah, I definitely agree with that.

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And that, that's the Peter Thiel, uh, spider web.

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But I am curious about how it may play out for these

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people from like a J.D. Vance perspective versus

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a Marco Rubio. Are we going to see them competing? Are we going

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to see them coming together? Because they're kind of— I

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mean, they're obviously in the same space, but they're bringing

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a different vibe. And as, as weird as this sounds,

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memes are important. And I don't know if you remember, at kind of

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like the beginning, there was this fire wave of

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JD Vance memes that were— well, they were very funny,

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but they were very ridiculous as well. And, um,

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then so that was kind of the JD Vance meme that was out there of

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him being like this really puffy face and like, uh, super big curly

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hair. And then there's a Marco Rubio meme

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out there and it's him sitting on a couch looking, I don't know, kind of

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annoyed. And then they just dress him as whatever. So he was dressed as like

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a FIFA ref for the World Cup and whatever

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else is going on, many different things. So I'm curious, like,

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does the meme matter here? What is this telling us about the—

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how these two are going to be positioned when we're moving into the

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next election cycle? And then the other thought that I have is

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I don't see how they would have a

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chance after this administration based on gas prices

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alone. I think that while there is a contingency

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that is still very supportive of Trump for whatever reason, I think the regular

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everyday person is getting fed up. They're definitely fed up

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with having to pay more at the pump, more on groceries, all of

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these types of things. And I think they're sick of this.

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So I do think that there's this possibility for a

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blue wave. And, you know, I'm not someone who subscribes

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to sides in politics. I would love to see corruption

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ended. At the very least, if we keep

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this system, like, end the corruption. I don't know how we do that, but I'm

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just saying, like, so I'm not a sides person. I'm just saying I don't

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see how the Republicans could come out of this, especially with

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what Don is talking about, with the fact that Israel is super

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unbelievably unpopular right now. And people

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see that. They're sick of this stuff. So I don't know how,

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of course, how this is all going to play out, but I'm very interested to

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see. And what does this even mean for the Republican Party going forward?

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Yeah, I want to say, and thanks for sharing that, Billy, from my good

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friend Arby Hamm. I'm going to try to make it to 10 o'clock tonight,

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but I don't know if I'll be back from Dylan's concert. Apparently he plays such

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a short concert, I may be back. Traffic isn't too bad. So I'll try to

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make it back for Beyond the Pale at, uh, RB Ham's

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great, uh, show tonight. Listen to it on his Rumble channel. I'll watch it.

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But, um, I'm sorry, go ahead, buddy. You'll know. Yeah, the AI data centers.

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Yeah, so he mentioned that, and that's— I, I want that again. As if Trump

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needed to do anything else to apparently attempt to

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imitate the Antichrist. Again, he goes, he comes out and said we need to— they're

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inevitable, we have— people need to accept it. I mean, this guy, it's like he's

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taking every issue and say, okay, I'm going against the people on everything.

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He's, he's one way now, and he's not stuck. You know, before he was all

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over the place, and he'd always flip-flop back and throw people red meat. No,

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no more of that. He's going straight up Satanism. He's going

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to the dark side over. It's just amazing to me. Is it—

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somebody mentioned there, why do we need data centers? I've said, in our state of

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Virginia, they built— they're supposedly building 60-some data centers. I worked in

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a data center for many data centers for many years. This makes no

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sense. These are not data centers that we've ever heard of. We don't— somebody

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should be questioning. They should have hearings on it. But again, everybody in

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Congress pretty much just, just voted to, to meld our

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military with Israel. So what are you going to count on them? But this

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is— we're, we're in a disastrous situation. I'm trying not to be blackpilled.

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I need to watch some Frank Capra films, man. He said

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data centers in space. That's what he said.

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And you know what? Trump is,

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is wrong about a lot of things. He's not too far off

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about the inevitability of these things. I've been given some hope lately because

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people have been pushing back and had— they've been stopping some of these data centers,

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and that's dope, you know, because I really didn't have much hope.

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But it's not like he's— it's not like Trump is too far off on this.

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Um, this is going to be a big struggle for humanity,

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you know, so Let's keep that in mind. Also, uh,

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Kenny Powers of the, the Babylonian Mystery School, like next level,

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uh, you know, wise man, it says, uh, what if

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Gavin Newsom is replaced by Gavin Rossdale and Gwen Stefani is

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the VP? Uh, that would be a popular one, no doubt.

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You see what he did there? Who's Gavin Rossdale? I don't know who that is.

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Bush, the band Bush. You remember that? He's the lead singer of Bush,

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Don They rocked hard, man. I've seen them perform. Like,

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I saw them at Woodstock. It's Woodstock '99. I saw Bush. Bush was— it's

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a fantastic— uh, but Gwen Stefani's MAGA. I don't know how that would work,

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you know, nowadays. So Gwen Stefani— and they're— these guys are divorced. She's married

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to Blake Shelton. Yes. Kenny, what are we doing? Oh, do I— can

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I get you an issue of People or what? But he— you know what he

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did there was, was dope though. That's— I think, I think he, he,

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he was going for, you know— yeah. For that whole thing more than anything else.

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But anyway, um,

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so we don't— we don't trust Tucker Carlson. Well, Don might if he winks at

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him, admittedly. But, uh, sweet talk me, I'm easily sucked

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in. Other than that, we don't trust Tulsi Gabbard, Tucker,

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RFK Jr. They all— they all have me if they sweet talk me. That's all

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they got to do. Anna Paulina Luna, uh, oh, she did

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not say much at all, let me tell you. She's a very beautiful woman.

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He doesn't need to do much. Um, let's talk real quick, uh,

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about— I think, I don't know if it was RB Ham or Kenny or

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someone else, I forget who it was. Um, you know who you were,

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but they were talking about, uh, Mom Donnie threatening to arrest

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Benjamin Netanyahu if he came to New York. So that's not

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gonna happen. It's against, it's against the laws here in New York to

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be able to pull something like that. It has to be the federal government.

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That does it. So Mom Donnie turned around and called

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on the federal government to do it, and you know they're not going to do

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that, right? Uh, they're not going to arrest Benjamin Netanyahu at all. But he did

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say Benjamin Netanyahu is not welcomed here in New York.

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Um, tons of protests when that guy comes here, tons of

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protests. That, contrary to popular belief in

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alt-right circles and conspiracy circles, Mom Donnie is very well

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liked here in New People really like him.

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Uh, they're gonna go protest when, uh, when,

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when Bibi comes to, to New York. Um, not that that's gonna change

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anything, right? But, uh, people will go out there and have their voices

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heard and, and seen. It's up to you to believe it, of course. You'd be

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like, oh, those are holograms from space, you know, you can make that up.

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But, um, yeah, Benjamin Netanyahu's not gonna— getting arrested here in New

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York, but I, I applaud Mom Dani's efforts and I applaud

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him saying that he should be arrested and that

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he is a war criminal. And Ro Khanna said the same thing.

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Like him or not, they're saying the same thing. They're like, this guy is a

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war criminal. And this is what we've been talking about here in The

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Alternative for some time. Are they not right?

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Please find the lie. Please find it.

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Okay, it is now 12:50. It's 12:47, but it's

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almost 12:50. Closing thoughts. We're gonna go around the horn,

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we're gonna shout out the chat, and we're getting out of here. I could play

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Elon Musk, but that'll, that'll spark another

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like 20-30 minute conversation that we don't have time for.

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Ashley, what is going on? How are you? Tell the people where they can find

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you. What's going on? Yeah, and I just want to say you're,

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you're exactly right. I mean, in, in this, in my opinion, the Israel issue

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is so egregious that it's just a breath of fresh air if

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you hear anybody in the political space admit this and

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make that concession. And like what Don was saying,

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as far as like, look, I mean, I consider this

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like one of the most critical issues. So if somebody's right on that,

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then you at least can appreciate the, um,

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you know, their rhetoric around that. And I did have some people that

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seemed a little mad that I was joking with Don. I was just kidding.

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I don't expect Don to know who Gavin Rosedale is. Just a

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joke. I know lots. I, I love Vertical Horizon.

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Have you guys heard Vertical Horizon? They're probably a newer group than them. I like

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Our Lady of Peace. I love, uh, Better Than Ezra. I know

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a lot of these groups. Blink-182. I don't know if they're new anymore, but I

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like them. Just for the record, New Found Glory bands

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are old. They're, they're all old bands, all of them,

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you know. So we are all, you know, we're talking about Diamond Rosedale Well,

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are there— I don't think there are any bands beyond that. They probably won't know

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is what— there's no rock and roll anymore. I can't like any newer ones than

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that, I don't think. Don, I think you're super cool, you understand, right?

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This is my music that I grew up with, this stuff. So I, I love

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this stuff, right? So I, I, I love that you like, uh,

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uh, Our Lady Peace. I love Our Lady Peace. I saw them live once when

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they came here to New York, Irving Plaza. And I loved— I love Chantal Kremers-Juka,

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who's married to the Ryan Maida, the lead singer of that. Love her.

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Maybe you. Good Lord. And Ashley— Ashley's a music head. She knows everything about

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everything there is to know, you know. So, but yeah, so rock and roll is,

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is, is pretty much dead. There's a couple of things here and there,

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but it's pretty— there's, there's some stuff in the metal space for those metalheads,

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metalheads out there. But anyway, all that to say, I was just joking. I meant

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no offense, Don. I don't care if you don't know who the

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lead singer of Bush is. Now otherwise,

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you can find me on Nights of the Storm Saturday, 2 PM.

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And I have my own show, Think Change

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Repeat, that is on Thursday at 8:30 PM. And then

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I've been working on a deep dive show with my friend Sean called Fool Me

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Twice. We just did 2 live episodes this past Friday and

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the one before on TWA 800. Yeah, uh,

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30 years later. And I learned a lot. That's a really interesting,

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um, story. It's very tragic. But I'm glad that we're not

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letting it be memory hold. So just kind of been busy lately,

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and I appreciate the opportunity to be here with y'all. I always love

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America Unplugged. Wow, we appreciate you, Ashley. Um, thank you for

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coming on, and thank you for helping us out in Tony's absence, man. Uh,

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Little John says Billy is like a doctor. He sees you for 10 minutes and

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charges you for an hour. Thing is, I, I don't, I don't charge you.

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This is socialized medicine. You get it for free, okay? When have I

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ever charged any of you for anything? It's a socialized podcast. Billy, that— you're

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too right about that, Billy. Billy would just say,

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don't worry about it, I got you, you're good, make me a

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pie. This is a social— this is a socialist podcast, no question

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about it. Very, very socialist. For the people, by the people,

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ladies and gents. Uh, Don Jeffries, the legendary.

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You will be at Bob Dylan tonight. You might

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be over at RB Hamm later tonight. You are a busy man.

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You look the part. Look at that shirt. Your,

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your, your hair is combed, you are ready to go and tell the people what's

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right. I'm sure. Well, Kenny Powers says that, uh, I— if I like old

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country, don't Brandon Flowers from The Killers. And I like The Killers, I know The

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Killers, but they're— somebody from them is associated with country? The Killers?

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Really? Okay, I didn't know. They don't seem to go together, but okay. I don't

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know. I know all this stuff, man. Up until when I would know it today,

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but there's— there are— there's no rock and roll. I used to— I used to

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be a downloading bandit. You know, I, I illegally downloaded

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certain— no, say illegally, I'm not confessing any crimes because it's not illegal.

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We all share music. That was bullshit. So, uh, but lots and

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lots of music files, let's say. But anyhow, so, um,

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but I wanna— I do want to mention about Matt Mondami that, uh, again,

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this is an example of as long as he keeps up— is he— as long

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as he says Benjamin Netanyahu is a war criminal, people like me

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that may not like a lot of stuff about him, we're going to say right

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on. And, and he's going to keep up his power. And as I said,

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if you stupid Republicans, whatever's left, the Republicucks, if you have

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an answer to these people, then come up with something other than,

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you know, attacking Cuba for 60 years. That's your answer?

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You think that's the response to the communists and socialists that are running us?

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You know what, get them done. You know, it's ridiculous.

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So I mean, so Ramdani, I agree that he's probably popular. I don't

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know, have you been to it? Has he really instituted the free grocery stores?

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Is that it? Because that was one of his things. We got— we, we're getting

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one in a year here in the Bronx, and then after that I think

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there's another one in— there's a site in Manhattan where La Marqueta used to be,

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uh, he's gonna set up there. That's gonna be pretty cool because I used to

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love going to La Marqueta when I was a kid, uh, but definitely one in

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the Bronx. He's already working on it. He's getting to work. He, he enjoys being

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the mayor of New York. It's not— he doesn't want— he's not Eric Adams.

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Eric Adams, who just, you know, took— or, or de Blasio or any of these

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freaking fools that we've had here. This guy is getting to work,

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you know, and I mean, I really don't understand what's there not to

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like, you know, like what's wrong with, with, uh, with,

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uh, with— well, because we, we, first of

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all, if he's talking, if he's talking about doing something for the people that need

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help, then he's going to be called a communist or socialist automatically

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because the people in power don't want it. That's why we have so many people

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that need help. Exactly. We would instead, we'll help people all

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over the world. We'll do that. Well, allegedly we'll send money over

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there and it won't help them either, but we'll claim we're doing it, right?

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But so this is— and this is why, again, populism is the answer.

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America, real America first. Exactly, good point.

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Somebody mentioned that in the chat earlier today. They were like,

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populism— I don't know who it was— populism would, would, uh,

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would not— will never exist, will never happen here in the

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United States. Fake populism will not work. No,

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it will not. What Mamdani is doing in large part is

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New York City first. That's what Mamdani is doing here.

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Yeah, you know, it really is. So populism presented

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in the right way and including everyone,

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including all Americans, not just the Americans that you think

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should be included. No, I mean all Americans, real pure populism

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can work, you know, and, and it doesn't have to be total— the

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philosophy doesn't have to be totally implemented. We can

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pull from socialism, we can pull from capitalism,

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whatever works best for us as a people.

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I don't understand why there's trigger words, you know, and they're like, oh my God,

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socialist, no, no, we don't want— and it doesn't— it's

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a question of priority. We, we are a socialist country. I tell these people all

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the time, we have this country that's socialism without services. We just don't

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have services. We tax you at a socialist rate. We just don't do anything about

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the roads and bridges, the power grids, or anything. We don't do anything like that.

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We— you don't have the services. In France, a real socialist country, if you get

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pregnant, uh, both you and your partner get

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a year paid off work leave from work. They'll send people for

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months to your house to deliver diapers to you and

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help you with childcare. I'm not saying I want to do that. But that's what

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their taxes get paid for. Pay for here— what do

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our taxes pay for? Aid to Ukraine, you know,

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incestuous relationship to Israel, you know, that kind of stuff. So we—

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so that's— it's America first. If you put America first, then you

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can't help but do some of these socialist things.

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You look at the roads and bridges, how can you not fix them? But as

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long as you keep distracting the public, which is what Trump is— and he criticized

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this before His whole point was, you know, your infrastructure's collapsing,

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we got all these people here. And of course he's doing exactly the opposite.

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As long as you keep pointing— you said, was it Mali? Another, another Mali,

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another place nobody could find on a map. Somehow that's an issue now

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too. Cuba. So anything except let's look at all the

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stuff out here. The roof is caving in, the kids are starving,

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they're cutting off the utilities. But you know what, we got to go across the

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street, man. Look at what's going on over there. Gotta stop

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it. A real America First party. Unfortunately, Trump has probably ruined that phrase.

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But anyhow, people can find me, Substack, subscribe over there, donaldjeffries.substack.com.

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I protest just like my podcast. Uh, appreciate that.

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And, uh, you can get— you can follow me on X now. I'm there at

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least for the time being, @donjeffries. And all my books are out there, uh,

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everywhere, soon to appear on Ashley's shelves at some point. So fantastic, 100%.

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Um, Yeah, um, Mom Donnie filled up thousands of potholes here

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in New York already, you know, so they're getting to work on the infrastructure too.

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Um, so I, I, uh, and they're not free grocery stores,

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uh, they're just cheaper, more affordable grocery stores.

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Uh, I think it was Robin that said in the chat the problem with free

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grocery stores is if you're at the end of the line, and that makes sense,

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you know. Um, but, uh, but they're not free, you know, it's, it's just,

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uh, lower prices. From, from local growers,

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you know, local farmers. You know, it's, it's a— I don't see any problem

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with any of this, you know. And a lot of these European countries that

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people look at and they're like, that's what we should be, they have a lot

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of, of, uh, socialist policies that they,

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uh, live by, and they're very happy over there, you know.

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So I think it's, it's a reframing of, of socialism.

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I think the, the younger generation has a different view on

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these words than what people of our generation and

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back grew up with. They, they have a, a different way of looking at it.

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So I put that up for Jackson E. Bear because he's complaining. So yeah,

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you got one posted there. And I also want to thank

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Sweet. Sweet's put my, uh, what's up, link to my X there. Thank you,

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appreciate it. Thank you, Angel Blue. How you doing, Sweet? And,

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and, uh, let me find a controversial post by,

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uh, by our friend here. I don't know if we can find one. It wasn't

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all that controversial today. He just said, why aren't you posting my— I don't know

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what you want to post. You post— I think I'm on your side a lot

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of times, Jackson. I don't know what you're, uh, what you want.

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USAID— here we go— was just

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the UBI for the NGOs. Well, sounds like more conspiracy

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theory to me. You know, you know what I can tell you is that

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millions of people are dead as a result of pulling this thing recklessly because

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Trump had no idea what he was doing and Elon Musk had no idea what

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he was doing. No idea. They just did. And you know what else they

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did in the process? Took your information. That's what they

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did more effectively than anything else with USAID and every,

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and every other, uh, government agency that they went on to raid for waste,

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fraud, and abuse. They didn't do any of Where's your check? Where's your

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$5,000 check? Where is it? From all that money that they were supposed to

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recover. But you know what they did get? All your information.

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All of it. What are they going to do with it? We are going to

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see, because they definitely have it, these crazy, yucky,

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smelly technocrats. Let's get up out of here. It is America Unplugged,

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everybody. My name is Billy Ray Valentine. I might go

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live tomorrow, but I don't know. But I will

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do it this week at some point. Uh, new episodes

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over at theinfinitefringe.podbeam.com. We're gonna rename it

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Guerrilla Underground very soon, and I got a couple of more interviews lined up.

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It's gonna be dope. I just spoke to your friend Neil Sanders, Don. He says

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hello. Um, but, uh, it was a, it was a, a nice

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interview about our journey in the alt media. We'd been in similar

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places together, uh, and, and we took similar

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roads, and now we're, uh And we have looked

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back on that, on that time. So we sat and discussed, and it

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was good. It was therapeutic for me to be able to sit

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with somebody that aligned with me so closely. You know,

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I don't think there's anybody else in the world that I can speak

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to on that level. Like, the dude was literally with me at Iconic. You know,

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like, the dude has been all over the place, you know,

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and So, and we, we ended up in

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roughly the same spot, so it's good to talk to him. Maybe this is all

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a psyop. Maybe we were all guided, uh, he and I were guided to go

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in that direction. We took a different carrot than other people. I don't know.

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But this is what we're talking about, uh, on, on The Infinite Fringe. We're going

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to talk cults, we're going to talk, uh, surveillance, mass surveillance, the technocracy,

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of course, you know, and, uh, mind control. Because odds

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are Your thoughts are not your own, at least 99.9%

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of that. I know that's a hard pill to swallow, but it's the truth.

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At least I think so. Let's get out of here. Ashley is in the house.

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Don Jeffries, what is up? Tony Arterburn.

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John Brisson, what's going on? How are you? Uh, Wayne McCroy.

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Charlie Robinson, what's up everybody in the chat? Let me say what's up. You guys

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can take off if you want. What time is it? It is 1:01. Don,

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if you need to leave, go ahead. I'm gonna, I'm gonna shout out the chat.

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Ashley, you want to hang for a couple of minutes? I appreciate it, guys.

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All right, guys, take care. Have fun tonight. Take a video

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and send it to me. Okay. All right. See you later. Oh no, I can't.

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That's one of the other things. He's absolutely— they're, they're strictly enforcing

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no phones usage at all. Oh, I'm done. I wouldn't have gone. I mean,

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I get arrested at a Dylan concert. Maybe I'll do that. Do that.

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Yo, that'd be, that'd be so punk rock. We played here on America Unplugged.

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It'll be the opening to America Unplugged, them taking you out in handcuffs.

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Have fun tonight. Okay, man. Be good, Ashley.

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It's just you and me. And then there we are, you know.

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Um, but, uh, let me say what's up to the people. I don't— you know,

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I typically— Tony reminds me, but I remember today,

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so I don't— I don't want to go— I don't want to leave without saying

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what's up. I know you got Nights of the Storm coming up. Um, I'm good.

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I got all my hard work in, Billy. Got this

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office re— I'm just feeling good. I'm happy to be here. I'm ready

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to go. Excellent. I'm gonna go see The Odyssey tonight.

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I can't wait. You'll have to let me know what you think because I know

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it's getting a lot of heat out there, but I think it looks kind of

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good. It looks fantastic, first of all. But people are getting heat because, uh,

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Lupita Nyong'o or whatever her last name is, she is Helen of

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Troy. And they're like, oh, she shouldn't be Helen of Troy because she's Black.

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She happens to be a very, very beautiful woman, you know.

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So let that rock, okay? It's, it's, it's not an issue. All right,

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here we go. Little John, what is going on? Jackson T. Barrett is in the

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house. Little John, we will have, uh,

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uh, let me see. Well, let's post this. I don't know what he's saying there,

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but I'll post it. Shadow banning? We're not shadow banning you, dude.

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Not everything is about you, you know. It's literally— it's—

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we're— I miss everybody's comments all the

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time. Uh, we love you, Jackson. Knights of the Storm.

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Candace Owens and hot is hot. You think she's hot?

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I don't think so. I think she looks like Michael Jackson. Hold on. To each

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his own though, to each his own. I think that's Jason. To each his own,

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Jay, I'm not judging. Okay, Candace Owens is hot but a little nutty.

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Very, very nutty. Maybe, you know, very— I mean,

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upper echelons of nutty. Knights of the Storm, make sure you tune in.

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Harps is in the house. What's up, Harps? How are you? You— why

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Y1984, what is going on?

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Hope you're doing well. We got Twisted Pistol in the house. What's going on?

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We did an episode on Candace Owens. Most people actually liked it. I thought we

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were going to get a lot of crap for it. Over on Rumble, we got

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some crap for it because, you know, yeah, you know,

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um, you're not, you're not on a technocratic platform over on Rumble.

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Just giving you a heads up, you're absolutely totally not. All right,

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uh, what else do we have? Bronx Stomper, say what's up to Bronx Stomper.

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Ashley, he was on your show not too long ago. Say what's up. Hello to

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my friend Bronc Stomper. Yes, he was, and he brought a lot of really good

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information. Derek, Bronc Stomper is not what I expected for some reason,

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you know. I, I, when I, when I, I wasn't expecting the person

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that he is. I was expecting something else. I don't know what I was expecting,

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but I wasn't expecting that. Very educated, full of knowledge

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on a lot of different subjects, like really, uh,

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a wealth of information. So definitely shout out Bronc, and thank you

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for coming on my show. What up, Bronc? How you doing?

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Nostra321, what's going on? Angel Blue,

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greetings and blessings to you. How are you? Sweets is

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in the house. What's going on, Sweets? Thanks for being here. John Bastiglione,

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how are you? Good to see you yet again. Truth Refugee,

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burn it down. We're about to do that in a second if you hang around.

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We're about to burn it down. Good to see you, Truth Ref. Uh, the Fugees

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is one of my favorite hip-hop groups of all time. Uh,

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Fuji's The Score is top

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5 hip-hop albums for me. Easy, easy. It— I think it's

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very underrated, doesn't get the recognition it deserves. Uh, Fuji's reminded me of that.

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Refugee. Anyway, Kenny Powers, I don't know if I mentioned you before, but you're worth

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mentioning again. How are you, my friend? Good to see you. Uh,

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You're a Daisy, what's going on? I'm your Huckleberry, what's going on?

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Good to see you, Daisy. Uh, Little Johnny Boy,

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you owe me a pizza, all right? I'm not gonna charge you for the doctor's

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visit, but I'd like a slice, a plain slice of pizza.

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Pizza Suprema, right across the street from Madison Square Garden.

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Hook me up with that, we'll call it even. All right, let me see what

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else. Uh, Harps, repeat offenders going on.

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Uh, we're merged with, with, um,

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Rumble, so I'm shouting you guys out at the same time. And I think that's

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it. Karen, what's going on? Karen B, good to see you.

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Um, I don't know if Piper Fogel is in the chat, but I'll shout

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her out anyway just in case. Guard Goldsmith, I don't

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see him in the chat, but I want to say what's up to him.

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I haven't spoken to Guard in a second. I got to say what's up.

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Um, damn. Colin Wise Song, how you

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doing? Misfit, what's going on, my guy? I know who that is.

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Good to see you. Um, oh, the Nature Boy is in the house.

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Whoa, the Nature Boy! What's going on? Uh,

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we, we gotta catch up, Nate. Uh, what else, what else we got?

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That's it, that's it. I don't know, do you have any? Oh, Lou, Lou G

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for Liberty, what's going on? Uh,

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whomever I missed, I am so sorry. I tried, I tried my hardest.

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Um, Harps, Australia still doesn't exist.

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Tell them something, Ashley. I don't know if there's anybody that you want to shout

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out that we didn't get. Greg Dub 27, what's going on?

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But, uh, do it before we burn this place down. Yeah, so we had

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over— I don't know if some of these were not

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popping up, but over on Don's specific chat, so we had Angel

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Blue, Cecilia, and we had— so I know you said some

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of them, but I don't know if you call Angel Blue Robin Lee.

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And there was maybe several others. Yep,

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sorry if I missed y'all, but the chat over in Don's channel is kind of

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hopping. Dustin Helm is in the chat. What's up, my guy Dustin?

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How you doing, Mr. Helm? Um, more people as I scroll,

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uh, I'm catching here, but a lot of repeat offenders and we like that.

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So, um, there's a lot of, a lot of stuff going on. Greg Dub— I

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said Greg Dub. All right, man, that's it. Ashley, are you ready?

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I'm ready. We are ready. That didn't sound very enthusiastic. Ashley, are you

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ready? I'm ready. Very nice. We are

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going to burn this place down. I will play some

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outro music because it feels, it feels necessary, especially after I

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gave it the whole are you ready thing. It feels like we need to play

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some outro music. You really hyped it up, so we got to do it,

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right? We got to do it. We're burning it down, ladies and gentlemen. We will

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see you guys next week. Ashley's on Nights of the Storm at

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2 PM, RBM at 10 PM, Weezy What's Up

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at 5 PM Eastern. We're out of here. Burn it down.

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To you boys, and they're like, you're fun.

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It's being a gang called the Disciples, high on crack,

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totally swinging.