#234 Live Trial Revelations: Boston Shooting, Missing Evidence & Conspiracy Claims
Hosts Billy Ray Valentine, Don Jeffries and Ashley break down the latest news: live coverage of the Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing, questions about missing evidence and conflicting timelines, and accusations of manipulation.
The episode also covers growing surveillance concerns (including AI cameras on garbage trucks), threats against public figures, and the role of influencers like Candace Owens in spreading and debating conspiracy theories — all mixed with the show’s usual banter and commentary.
00:30 - Strange Intro / Personal Anecdote
01:12 - Show Opening — America Unplugged & Host Introductions
01:39 - Podcasting Backdrops — The Bookshelf Trend
02:42 - July 4th Reflections & Twilight Zone
03:21 - News Brief — Iran Threat Against Trump
04:01 - Surveillance Topic — AI Cameras on Trash Trucks
05:27 - Tyler Robinson Case — Trial Overview (Don Jeffries)
06:44 - Account Compromise — Discord Post & Timing Discrepancies
07:26 - Evidence Concerns — Extra Bullet & Missing Items
08:42 - Car at the College — Eyewitness Reports
09:12 - Weapon Analysis — Mauser 30-06 Discussion
09:51 - Crime Scene Handling — Camera, SUV & Chain of Custody
11:31 - Media Narratives & Conspiracy Debate (Candace Owens)
0:30 My friend just went and died of a big disease in the middle of May By chance his girlfriend came across a needle in a seed and she gave the seed At home there were 17 little boys and they were right here at fun It's been a gang come up and the site blows high on crack So the money sure is good What's going on?
1:12 Welcome back to America Unplugged Ladies and gentlemen my name is Billy Ray Valentine Billy the Kid War on Reality Report Donald Jeffries the legendary How are you? Good to be here It's exciting times Look forward to having the lovely Ashley there with a different backdrop You look a little different but it's you Glad to have you here It's a new thing for podcasting It's the shelves in the back Everybody is doing that right now It's the latest craze in the podcasting world If you really pay attention now whenever anybody's doing a live show They have bookshelves in the back Empty ones White ones Don is going to empty out his bookcase next year I don't have a bookcase yet I haven't upgraded yet But I will And when I do it's going to be glorious empty and white Ashley what is going on?
2:07 How are you? Thank you for joining us What's going on? Thanks so much for having me guys I actually had these in my other office But they are like turned upside down They're empty You can even see that the paint job that I attempted to do is not that great I plan on removing them eventually But right now chaos Wherever something can go it's going So we're just going to have to go with it for now But I did add a couple of books Oh there are some books there Yeah I didn't even see them But then you moved over and there they are Fantastic What is going on everybody? I hope everybody enjoyed July 4th It's one of my favorite holidays of the year I saw a little bit of the Twilight Zone marathon Don I don't know if you caught it I didn't watch it at all I forgot all about it It was just one day so I caught a little bit of that While I was laying on my couch coughing up a lung But other than that it was fun You know it's always cool for the 4th of July And you know the theatrics continue Here in the United States of America And around the world Iran wants to kill Donald Trump Big news flash nothing new there They're saying they want to kill him I wonder what Donald Trump did to deserve that You know Don wanted to talk about the trial that's going on
3:39 I think I'll hand it over to you Don I know you did a show about this yesterday But let's rehash some of it here And then we're going to go to Ashley And we're going to break down some of the stuff going on with Iran And we'll see after that I do want to talk briefly about it And I didn't tell you guys backstage But I just remembered There is a town in Florida That is flirting with the idea of putting some AI cameras On the back of waste trucks Garbage trucks And it's going to scan the area And find you if you've violated anything So in essence it's going to be Trash trucks Hey Watch out for the trash Oh man It's going to be a big dilemma for Weezy over there Because that's what he does for a living Yeah yeah It's time to put your money where your mouth is And you know he'd be the first trash man to come after You know that he'd be number one on the list I think It's going to be a tough choice for people Very very soon It's going to be put your money where your mouth is You've been talking all this shit for a long time And now it's going to be like Alright what are you going to do It's coming around right It's starting in Florida But it's probably going to spread to the rest of the United States Hopefully we can put a stop on this shit But again no reasonable expectation of privacy We've been talking about that for years now And if there's any conspiracy First off it's not a conspiracy theory It is a fact
5:09 This is what's going on You know So if there's anything we want to concentrate on And try to push back on Peacefully And intelligently It is that right The surveillance state And here we go So let's talk a little bit about that before the end of the show Don Jeffries I'm going to hand it over to you What's up sir Well we're talking about Tyler Robinson I had a special show yesterday It was good I had more viewers than I've ever had And so We're going to do another show tonight with R.B. Hamm 10 p.m. on his Beyond the Pale Rumble channel So people know I'm on there Pretty much every Saturday night So we'll be talking about the same stuff But I had Steve Cameron And Ali Who's got a big audience on there So you know The great thing about this is that usually We don't get a chance to analyze these show trials You know like when You had Jared Lee Loftner back in the day It was Gabby Giffords I don't remember that being televised at all The Batman shooter I don't think it was televised at all So we didn't know anything was going on And this one The Boston bombing You know the suspect We didn't get to see live in action But what's great about it And I don't know Maybe they're doing it on purpose Because they want to keep up the division But You see up close and personal what's happening So you saw Like for instance It was a key moment for the defense Yesterday Where they had the detective on there Who They have the booking statement Where he He's It's recorded that they booked Tyler Robinson I think it's 6.20 p.m.
6:36 Or something like that Well the problem with that Is that And of course they confiscated his phone And all the social media stuff The problem with that is Between 8 and 9 o'clock that night Someone posted a confession in his name On his Discord account So right That alone Proves that at the very least Someone got into his account And was you know Trying to frame him Or playing a ridiculous practical joke Or something But The defense Literally The defense had him on the stand The defense didn't cross examine him And bring up the The difference between the times So we were talking about how You know What is that? And well some people say Well there may be They may be waiting until the trial Because it's just a preliminary hearing Well we'll see But I don't have any confidence Typically in these In these defense teams They did raise some other issues We found Things like there was another bullet Found on another rooftop And they claimed it was from a police officer Who of course they didn't identify We don't know who And they didn't keep the bullet in evidence Just so they had an empty holster That was found near the stage That they didn't keep in evidence either So When you see them live in action You know You see the incompetence of the law enforcement Mixed with the corruption And so it was great seeing some of that And then I think The most important thing While they were bragging about The grainy footage of Some kid You know Some skinny kid in jeans And a maroon shirt I remember Candace Owens Made a big deal about how so many people Were wearing maroon shirts that day
8:06 And they made fun of her Well Whoever this was was wearing a maroon shirt But you can never see his face And all over X Oh my god This is a slam dunk Overwhelming evidence Candace Owens should be hung in the town square I mean everything's about Candace Owens It's like I told those people Can you possibly post about this Without mentioning her? Why do you have to always mention her? There are a lot of people out here Who doubt this But That was You know That was supposedly their great piece of evidence And then Again The defense team did a fair job Of at least bringing it out When another detective was up there And he talked about Tyler Robinson's car being at the college that day And okay That's fine That seems incriminating maybe But the problem is They have eyewitness testimony That a bald guy was seen driving it With three other passengers in it Now that obviously opens up an entire Open can of worms And you're talking about reasonable doubt Now at the end They didn't do much with it But at least they brought in the record So presumably At the real trial They would do something Much as if the real trial I'm not a gun expert at all But I know a lot of people that are And they all say the same thing About a Mauser 30-06 That it would do way more damage than that shows So I would hope that And that's where you'd be able to see If the fix is in A real defense team would call Many of the available gun experts To talk about how The damage would usually be done With something like that How that doesn't Compute what they see
9:36 And also they would talk about How difficult it is to assemble And reassemble it Because they had this guy I don't know Three or four times Or whatever he was supposedly doing So I hope they do that But it was interesting It was nice seeing that stuff in real time And it's a lot to talk about They already had to deal with The crime scene paved over And we know they removed Ten inches of dirt When they did it the next day We know that the guy And they had the guy's name That removed the camera behind Charlie And took out the SD card And didn't hand the SD card Over to law enforcement Put it on a flash drive And gave the flash drive To them later And we also found out That the SUV That again, Charlie was Transported in an SUV Because they oddly Didn't have an ambulance there Usually football games High school football games A lot of times they have ambulances In case And with that guy With the way he was getting Into debates with You know College students who hated him For the most part You would think that We need an ambulance here Or something Maybe more security But they didn't have that So they transported him in an SUV And JFK assassination style You know after the JFK assassination They After they destroyed The crime scene Which was the limo They wiped it all Free of evidence Washed it out And they flew it back to Washington And replaced the windshield And so they did Almost the same thing here Where the limousine Disappeared I mean the SUV disappeared And they found that It was sold at auction Right So again So those are just Some of the highlights There's a lot more of those But And that's why It just flies in the face Of all these Former MAGA influencers
11:06 Who are trying to revive MAGA And they're Ridiculing conspiracy theories Why they used to love Conspiracy theories I mean every one of them You can People can follow me At Don Jeffries I'm back there And I'm I'm arguing with these people Constantly And of course They don't They don't lower themselves To respond to somebody like me But People can see those exchanges All right It's It's It's Apparently According to the New York Post It's fully transparent To To be able To Do away with the crazy Conspiracy theories That are Are Circulating around The event Right And In particular Right The whole Israel killed them That's That's a big That's the one They're concerned about For sure You know But That's also the one That's being pushed More prominently In the space Candace Owens Specifically Responsible for this You know Candace Owens Is The equivalent Of Alex Jones To me At this point Alex Candace Owens Will say Just about anything And And She claims She is A A Investigator A reporter Like that whole Expose She did on On Macron's wife You know The pan suit Off of her Right Because she can't Prove anything She's saying And this is The problem With Candace Owens
12:36 And I know a lot of people In the space Want to believe And I say Want to believe Because that's Where A lot of people Find themselves Want to believe These things You know But Could it be Possible that this guy Was just deranged And shot No Not possible At all And I'm saying Of course not You know And not Not Not because I'm agreeing With you I'm saying of course Not because of course That's the mentality People would take And And There's no matter How much Evidence Empirical evidence Is Is produced To Support that claim It will not Be accepted It just Will not By So But Charlie Robinson Was not involved No matter What the conspiracy was But You know They had this guy Walking around
14:06 You can never See his face Now I guess It's possible It's him I don't know What his general Build is But that probably Applies to Hundreds of people That were on The campus That day And As for the Car So What does that do? That discredits that Or it opens up the can Kind of like John Doe Number 2 Did for Oklahoma City Why they Couldn't Call anybody That saw Timothy McVeigh At the scene Because Every one Of them Saw John Doe Number 2 So they Didn't even Place McVeigh At the scene Of the crime He was there But they Couldn't So All the evidence In terms of The extra bullet On top of a rooftop And you have The guy When they Found Whatever they Found on the Rooftop And of course They didn't Find a bullet There Oddly And the guy Even said I kind of Expected to Find a cartridge There But he Didn't And of course His body Cam goes off Those things So A lot of people Question it Candace Owens She's become You're right Like Alex Jones She's the Personification Of this Because she's The one that Has the biggest
15:36 Platform But she Raised a lot Of these Questions But a lot Of us Said I was Writing about This right Away Independent Of Candace Owens I just Couldn't Figure out One final Time Why would He do that What sense Does that Make And they Have them Everywhere But nobody Approaches them Or anything Like that George Zinn The guy Who has A lot Of these Curious Backgrounds Who Claim I Did it I did It And they Are All Zionist And they Are so Ben Shapiro Admitted That Charlie Kirk's Security Team Was Updating His Security Team On the Way To the Hospital Even Shapiro Said We Weren't Really Friends Updating Him So That Means That Ben Shapiro Is Somehow Involved On Behalf Of Israel What Does
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