#229 America Unplugged: Knicks Fever, Presidential Sleepovers & the UFC Shake‑Up

0:00 Donald Jeffries, author of Hidden History and Survival of the Richest, host of the Donald Jeffries Show, Billy Ray Valentine, host of the Infinite Fringe Podcast, researcher, truth seeker from the Bronx, New York, Tony Arterburn, radio host, combat veteran, precious metals analyst, and alt historian. Together, they take on the headlines of the week, decode the disinformation, and plow through the mainstream propaganda, unauthorized, unscripted, and un-intimidated. This is America Unplugged. What is going on? How is everybody doing today?

0:48 It is America Unplugged. My name is Billy Ray Valentine. It is the War on Reality Report. Tony Arterburn, the wisest of all the wolves, is here with me today. We got to work on that intro. We got to rework it, right? Because I don't host the Infinite Fringe anymore, right? But you did. I did. It's an archive. People can go back and look at it. They could. I'm not taking it down. You should edit it. I might transform it at some point. What's up? Former host. Current host. Former. Gorilla underground. It's even that. I haven't done that in like a month. Human being who lives in New York. I was thinking of this today.

1:30 You should open up a bakery and pub in New York. It's called Bread and Circus. And you serve orange beer. Okay? For the orange man. For the Knicks. I'll serve orange and blue beer for the Knicks. We're going to do that for the New York Knicks. We're losing our minds here in New York. And you know what? I'm loving it. I'm here for it. The Knicks have broken my heart for years and years and years and years. And now it looks like we're up 2-0 in a thriller of a game last night, right? It looks like we have a shot to win an NBA championship. Now, that being said, we're going to need the National Guard here in the U.S., in New York when it happens. Because all hell's going to lose. But I'm glad you mentioned the orange beer because it triggered this in my brain. And I want to talk to the people real quick. So all you New York haters, right? All around the freaking world now, everybody's a New York fan. You went down to San Antonio. Half that crowd was wearing New York Knicks jerseys.

2:38 And then after the game, they took over the lobby, right? So I'm saying some of these people are traveling to the game, but a lot of these people are transplants, people that have left New York and still want to be a part of New York. And that's cool. I'm cool with that. You're still a New Yorker. It's a state of mind, right? But to all the hypocrites, and I know several of them, that are like, oh, we want to leave New York. New York sucks. New York is this. New York is that. And then this comes around and they're playing New York, New York by Frank Sinatra. Or New York by Ja Rule, you know, and I got a hundred guns, a hundred clips. Everybody's playing that all over the place. Now you're a New Yorker, right? Now it's cool to be from New York and you wear jerseys that say New York on them and hats with New York on them. Now it's cool, right?

3:25 Hypocrites, all of you. And to those people that are actually true Blue Knick fans and are New Yorkers that have left New York because they were priced out of New York, but they still want to be a part of New York, I get it. You are still New Yorkers and we're still cool with you. You guys are fine. No problem. Just keep in mind that the Knicks could blow this, okay? Just history says that the Knicks could just completely blow this. I think we have a good shot at this. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I will be going nuts on the streets of Manhattan if this happens, okay? I'm just going to tell you, I may not show up to America unplugged. You may not hear anything from me for weeks at a time until I resurface from, I don't know, from the euphoria of the Knicks winning a championship in my lifetime. I'd love to see it.

4:12 Tony Arterburn, your thoughts? I only watch sports that are on the White House lawn now. Unless we do a slap contest inside the Smithsonian, which I figure is next or- Let's do it. Yeah, I mean, we can- In front of the Constitution. Women's beach volleyball inside the National Archives. Yes. Who's with me? I'm with you. Okay. I'd go see that. It's got to be in a government building. All right. All right. In front of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. It's dope. Ashley is joining us here today. How are you from Knights of the Storm? No legendary Don Jeffries. He cleared out his garage and he's selling stuff. So you can roll up to Don right now and buy some of his stuff, support the cause, and get an autograph from the legendary Don Jeffries. Just saying if you're in the area. Okay, this is what he's doing right now. But Ashley is here with us. Thank you for joining us. To what do we owe the honor of you being here?

5:13 Well, I asked you to be here, so I guess it's because of that. But anyway, how are you? Thank you so much for inviting me on today. I'm looking forward to this. I always watch AU every single Saturday that I'm available and enjoy the different things that you end up discussing and different viewpoints. And I'm looking forward to it. So thank you so much. All right. Fantastic. Everybody in the chat, what's up? How are you? I am. There are quite a few things to get into. And Tony led into the bread and circus of it all. To add to that, because we were going to talk about the nonsense that's going on in front of the White House in this UFC event, Trump was falling asleep on camera. I mean, like heavy.

5:57 And there was a lot of criticism for Joe Biden doing things like this. I don't feel the same energy for the buffoon in chief, the child in chief that can't stay awake. Should there be some type of freaking age limits to this? Like these people are clearly not qualified to run the United States of America. I mean, Trump, for a lot of reasons, of course. But this is two very elderly men back to back that have been running this country, and they can't stay awake in the world's most important moments. What's going on here? What's up, Tom? Well, it's a presidential tradition now.

6:38 Go ahead. If you go back through history, Edith Wilson was in charge of the Wilson administration in his second term because he had a stroke. And so actually we've had a woman president. She signed all of his documents in the last, I think, 18 months of his presidency. So we had that and we've had obese presidents. We've had Reagan had signs of Alzheimer's at the end of his presidency. They kind of insulated him, kept him away from everybody. George W. Bush was clearly never fit to be anything near president of the United States, and they kept him insulated and maybe gave him a helmet and all the other trappings of watching somebody who has those kind of needs. I really don't know about age limits. Back when I ran for Congress, I've told this story that I ran against the last World War II veteran, and he surprised the hell out of me how sharp he was at 90. I mean, it was it was insane, the history that he knew. And he could quote, he and I would talk for hours about poetry and history and people that he knew. So I changed my mind after that. I thought, well, you know, maybe there's special exceptions. I don't like to to do ageism, but it does seem that especially with the boomer generation, they have just engulfed us with their demographic over Congress for decade after decade. They just have this staying power. So it's really about a generational

8:09 issue that's not a good mix anymore. Another demographic that is really in a statistic that is really shocking is the amount of service that people do. Now, you don't have to serve in the military, and I don't even advocate it for right now. But it's weird that we have such a militaristic country and our leaders don't have military, most of the time don't have military service. And they also are really into war. So that's something like Congress in the night in 1973. And we're going to talk about that. Congress in 73 voted to limit presidential powers on conducting war. And we're digging that back up. Finally, we're digging up the greatest hits. We haven't used the 1973 revolution resolution until now. But back then it was like like 75 percent of Congress was made up of military veterans. And now it's like 15 percent. And I mean, maybe it's lower.

9:02 It was like 15 percent eight years ago. It's probably lower. So I think there's just the continuity of rule by people that are so out of touch. And speaking out of touch, I covered on my show and I'll leave you with this. We're going to probably get into the Israel question. But there's been a resolution by a congressman that's been thrown out that we should we should merge our military, stop giving foreign aid to Israel and just go ahead and merge the defense relationship with Israel. So a lot of ass kissing going on. And it's funny because it's also that narrative is collapsing before our eyes. So fun times. Yeah, absolutely. Kenny Powers, man, I love you, but you're about to get banned for this comment. OK, this is opening up old wounds. Please have mercy on me. OK, you can talk to me about anything else, but that that's that's a really bad memory of my childhood. So please, please. Next time. No restraint. You're getting banned.

10:03 Love you, Ken. Ashley, you have any thoughts? I do have thoughts. Yes, I think that what we're seeing right now in the Middle East is a real shit show. I think we're going to get into that. We do have a lot of moving parts to what is happening. And I think that in part, like there's a lot of things that are moving very quickly or you have these outrageous things being introduced, like what Tony was talking about with merging the military. But then you also have this hurry up and wait type situation. And I have likened that to maybe a little bit of a gladio type situation of keeping that strategy of tension. And I think that it psychologically does something to people in general to be feeling like we're on the brink of war, particularly with the relationship or the way that Iran has been presented as a boogeyman for so many decades now. So I feel like that is one of the pieces, then obviously this relationship with Israel that Trump and his donors have and Bibi Netanyahu, as well as what is seemingly rising anti-Zionist and anti-Israel rhetoric here in the States. People are fed up with that.

11:18 And then I wanted to make a quick comment. Tony is talking about, so the fight is called UFC Freedom 250. And I feel like it makes me want to puke. It reminds me, it makes me feel like we live in idiocracy, literally. We do. We do. I'm expecting President Camacho to come out, but there's also just the hypocrisy of calling it UFC Freedom 250. And then we have two fighters who we're not going to be fighting, but we're going to be in attendance, which is Sean Strickland and Bryce Mitchell, who have actually been banned from that event because of their outspoken rhetoric towards Israel, which is really saying something, but we obviously know the pipeline.

12:04 So we have Ari Emanuel that is involved in UFC. He is a major agent in Hollywood as well. He is in the milieu with Joe Rogan, with Dana White. And then there, of course, that would at least partially explain Trump's appearances leading into his presidency and to this day at UFC fights. So it's like a very, it's a tangled web, but also the UFC was supposed to be the sport that, and I'm not saying I subscribe to this, but during COVID times, it was the sport that was still running. They said, we're not shutting down. We're, you know, we have, we allow our fighters to have free speech. And it was known as that. And I feel like it's actually quite the rug pull because now you have people that are expressing political opinions in this day and time that are, that are not favorable to people that have nothing to do supposedly with UFC and they're getting prevented from being at the fight. It's just representative of a clown world.

13:06 I'm not really a fan of Sean Strickland, but he should be allowed to say whatever the hell he wants, you know, so go ahead and do that. And very good on Ari Emanuel, right? And that's Aram Emanuel's brother, we should say, you know, and that he runs TKO, right? What's it called? I forget something else. TKO is the company that was put together for UFC and WWE. And both of those entities are very Trump friendly. The UFC, some would argue, are responsible for making Trump appear to be cool to some people, you know, and leading up, you know, to the election and getting him elected, you know, and yeah, you, I liked what you did there. You put all those connections together with the manosphere and all that other stuff.

13:56 Joe Rogan is directly connected to that as well. I think it's going to be a shit show. I don't want to see it. I, I, I, let me, let me correct myself. I do want to see it because it's going to be a skeptical spectacle, but I don't, I don't think I am going to see it because I can't bring myself to do it. Yeah. And I, I'm in the same boat. I would be curious, but I feel like I cannot give, I just don't feel good about, and I've been kind of falling away from UFC for a while because some of this stuff disgusts me, but I, um, I've just feel like, especially in this one, when people are being punished for speaking out against another country that should have nothing to do with UFC. I don't even think there are any fighters at all in UFC that I know of that are from Israel. Um, I, I just don't feel like I can give it my attention in this attention economy.

14:50 I won't be tuning in because I, um, you know, as Don Jeffrey says, because I protest Shouts to the legendary Don. No, and I'm, I'm, um, I used to be a huge fan of UFC and I stopped being a fan, not because of their politics, even though that added into it after the fact, but there's a real lack of star power there for me. You know, I like one or two guys that I want to see fight, you know, but I want to get back into it, especially after I got out of grad school. I'm like, I want to get back into being a regular human. So I want to watch these things. But there's no incentive. And this is nice. I don't like this. And he's, we already have president Camacho. He's his name is Donald Trump, uh, tone, uh, closing thoughts on this. And then I want to get into what Jackson T Barrett said, because we spoke about this backstage.

15:33 What's up, Jackson. Go ahead. Um, Yeah, it was like a fist and feet will break your face, but words will break your career. Apparently. Um, that's where we are. And it's reminds me, I just looked this up and maybe we'll play it. Maybe if we have enough time, we'll play it. But the, the monologue of Ned Beatty at the end of the movie network, where he tells the, the anchor, the news anchor, who's lost his mind, how the world actually works, the world as a corporation, you know, you, you get this big reveal, uh, as you're emerging, you know, part of culture or the financial structure like UFC has become. And then like, Oh, this is who actually runs things. Right. And you can't criticize that you can have your free speech so long as we approve of that. Right. And that's, I think that's indicative of where we are.

16:19 However, I do believe that we are, as Ashley mentioned, um, this is what's known as a bifurcation point. Okay. This is where like the culmination of all the ideas and, and, uh, ideologies that, that have pressed forward the last 50 years are meeting reality. And I would caution anybody who's, uh, you know, especially like the owners of UFC or Dana White or any of these people, like if you're silencing fighters because of their stance on Israel, you are on the wrong side of history. That narrative is collapsing. It is imminent. That is going to be a huge part in the next 10 years, uh, filtering through our politics. It will be something, it will be, it will be a reckoning. I agree. Like we've never, like a political reckoning, because this has been bubbling under the surface for decades and people have been silenced. And finally, like a, you hold a beach ball underwater, it's just going to surface and all this stuff's going to come out. And we're already starting to see the headlines of drudge with the, uh, Israeli espionage. I mean, gosh, that's been going on for forever. I mean, we've, there's convicted Israeli spies inside the United States. I mean, many, many times over where, you know, even some sold our, our classified missile technology to the Chinese, you know, via Israel, all that stuff. I mean, spying on the president, this has been happening for a long time. It's been swept under the rug by people like the likes of Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham and others.

17:47 Uh, but this is, this is going to be, I think, uh, one of the turning points for like, I don't want to do not a turning point in the USA, but definitely, uh, definitely we're at a crossroads and I would caution anybody who thinks that things will go on as they have gone. It definitely will change. And, uh, some, sometimes these events like fighters being silenced is a good thing. I mean, just because, or Thomas Massey losing an election, uh, I think is a, is a good thing at the end of the day because it sheds light on a real problem. It's already changed. It's like, it's will change. It's already happening. It's just going to, it's going to go further down the road, you know? So that's, that's something to look at. It's, it's, it's definitely going to be a thing. A Strickland and correct me if I'm wrong, Ashley, but, uh, I think he said that he didn't want to perform for pedophiles also. So there might be. Yeah, that's the, I want to, I was going to try to jump in really quick before we tie the bow on this one, but I encourage people to check out Sean Strickland's X page and I'm with Billy. He says a lot of wild stuff. Sometimes, sometimes it's very offensive. I think part of that is just because he, he enjoys, you know, getting the reaction, but this is someone who has a documented history of childhood abuse.

19:05 Somebody who has a history of overcoming that to hold the belt as he currently does for middle weight. I believe he just won, but so he's, but he's also known or presented as somebody who has his own opinions. And in spite of the damage that it could potentially do for his career, including calling out the UFC for, for poor pay, which is true, the disgusting amount of money that the UFC makes and only some fighters get paid out. Meanwhile, you're literally risking your life at, at the most or at the very least like brain damage. But anyway, I was going to say, check out his stuff because he had recently posted a very long, silly apology for what he said. And he was like, I apologize for not supporting Israel enough. And yes, he called out the fact that Trump is either a pedo or a pedo protector. And he said this, what, you know, the files disappeared and he does everything for Israel. So I think it's at least worth checking it out. Uh, if you're interested in that subject, he also turns around and apologizes every time after, after a fight. He liked that when he won, uh, the, the belt a month ago, he was crying.

20:18 He's like, Oh, I'm sorry. I went too hard on the Muslim. I went too hard in the paint. Yep. He's something else, you know, but regardless, listen, uh, Jackson T Barrett mentioned this and that's why I left it up on the screen for as long as I did. Um, how long has Iran had a working atomic bomb? Never. I want to, I definitely want to address this. We want to talk about this, but before we get into that, uh, conspiracy theorists report, uh, the Hunza, the Hunza virus is gone again. I mentioned this last week, but I just want to reiterate. It's still not a thing anymore for all of you who thought it was the end of the world. Second, uh, what happened to the scientists? Where'd that go? Okay. That's gone too. Um, I'm sure it will resurface because it resurfaces every five or 10 years, but for now it's gone. Uh, and, uh, atomic bombs, they were, they were not real not too long ago. And now everybody's discussing them as if they are just saying, anyway, um, I think the scientists all died from haunted virus. That's a sad, they were all atomic bomb, uh, or, or murder Hornets murder.

21:22 Yes. One of the things and monkey Fox framed murder Hornets. I don't know. What are you thinking brother? So rumors have been circulating. I actually, I'm going to give it to Ashley first because Ashley has some knowledge as to how this got started. Maybe Jackson, I want you to put in the chat where you heard this or why you're bringing this up if you can. But, uh, but, uh, Ashley was putting us on backstage for, for, for about five minutes. So lay it out, Ashley. And then I'm going to go to Tom. Okay. Yes. I'm looking forward to hearing what y'all think about this, but I'll tell you just my, uh, how I came to this information. I've been watching judge Napolitano, um, who has, I like the way he does his show. He has like five or six guests a day, depending, and they all have different takes. Not that I agree with everybody or think that everybody's maybe on the up and up, but I liked the different takes. So he had two people. Uh, I think it was Larry Johnson and Pepe Escobar who were connected into intelligence and they broke the news to judge Napolitano this week that they had a source inside the Pakistani government who was serving as the kind of mediator, not necessarily that, that they were working on either side, like a counselor, but they were just relaying the messaging.

22:36 That's how they were being used. And then, um, that, that a source that they verified at the very least that this source was that the source believed it. And it was credible. They were not saying this is what happened, but they're saying, this is what we got from our source is that Iran now has a working nuclear weapon. And then in the followup, what they were saying was that it, what they believed is that Iran potentially was given this nuclear weapon, um, and potentially from Pakistan. So not that they had suddenly had the ability to create their own nuclear weapon.

23:18 Okay. So there's some debate on that. Then they were like, well, what about Tulsi Gabbard? Was she lying 18 months ago when she said that their nuclear weapons program had been disabled and their feedback was, no, she was not lying. That was their understanding. So they either had the ability to have something capable of creating it, or someone gave it to them. If it even exists. And of course I have a question. Why is this being presented into the conversation at this moment, as we are in this very weird place with whatever is happening with conflict with Iran, but it sure would be convenient for the powers that shouldn't be in the military industrial complex and Trump and his administration and Israel, if they could say, oh yeah, Iran does have a nuke now game on officially because the war has been super unpopular.

24:05 Obviously people are sick of war. They're sick of their gas going up every single week. They're sick of all of this shit. So, all right, go ahead, Tom options. That's why it would float that way. But if you unpack it, it seems very unlikely that that would have, they would be given a nuclear weapon. Do you, if you understand mutually assured destruction, if you understand, uh, the consequences, like if Pakistan actually did that, they would be targeted in an event that it, that weapon was used. They'd be targeted by other powers that would seal their fate. That, that is to do that on a whim without any cleared present danger to themselves.

24:49 Makes no sense. The only thing that really makes sense is that we have to build confusing narratives. We can implant that idea into the minds of people that not only were they racing to get a bomb, but they were able to get one indirectly. So something like something like that seems completely contrived to me. It's an old technology, by the way. I mean, it's an 80 year old technology. I remember reading articles from Pat Buchanan back in the mid, you know, early two thousands talking about Iran eventually. I mean, on a long enough timeline, we'll get a bomb, but they signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, unlike Israel, who has over 300 atomic bombs that they got from us. They got the enriched uranium and the materials through our deep state.

25:33 So this kind of information floating around to me is just adding to the optionality for the war machine to continue its operations, whether it's just perpetual war for the, for the sake of it or giving them options to do other things. This is, you know, again, we kick the horn in its nest and anybody with any sense that knew anything about this region or the consequences of hitting Iran the way that we did, knew what was going to happen with the Strait of Hormuz, knew what was going to happen with energy and the cascading consequences of that. So I just look at this as an operation to colonize people's minds. And you're right, Billy, people, people like, you know, people that maybe didn't even believe in nuclear weapons, which is a thing. And that always makes me chuckle because, you know, my grandfather, who served in the Cold War, he was a first lieutenant in the Marine Corps. His name was Nick Davis. He eventually became vice president of Texas Instruments, weapons division, had a secret top secret clearance, all that stuff. He was part of the hydrogen bomb experiments. He died from it. And he died from the cancers. He got multiple cancers. He was the last surviving member of his unit that was overseeing the detonations of those bombs. And if you remember, the hydrogen bomb was a fusion bomb in the early 1950s. This was a technology that even Oppenheimer didn't want to create. They revoked his security clearance, by the way. If you watch Oppenheimer, he lost his security clearance and was deemed a communist because he didn't want to build

27:04 an even bigger bomb. He's like, oh, we already created enough to destroy the planet. Why do you want to make it bigger and more destructive? But my grandfather was part of that, had no protective gear, lost his leg at the hip when I was about four years old. He had to have it amputated. And he had died of multiple cancers. But he's one of the smartest people, not the smartest man as far as mathematically I've ever met in my life. I've never met anybody close to that. He would share stuff with me when I was a kid about the weapons they were making. He told me about future technologies that would come out 10 or 15 years later that all did. Nuclear weapons exist, folks. Sorry. I know that's a narrative in the alternative community, but I really, I know it. He didn't lie to me. He wrote me letters when I was in Afghanistan detailing his experience with the hydrogen bomb. It's called the Diablo. Good Lord. I mean, some people will deny it until it blows up in their face, quite literally. And at that point, it's too late.

28:07 But yeah, man, I would say this. Judge Napolitano, I used to listen to him a lot when I was listening to Alex Jones. He used to come on on Alex all the time or whatever. And he's a smart guy. You know, some of the guests he has, and I stopped listening a long time ago, but some of the guests he has on his show are of the style of a Steve Pucinich, that they come in and talk some stuff. I like Judge Napolitano. I'll read his articles a lot on my show. I think he, from everything I've studied and everything he's wrote, I believe he's coming from a place of honesty and search for the truth. And I think he has a good heart. He's definitely a follower of Jesus. He's a Christian in the sense of peace and other things that I appreciate. But you and I both know if you're running a large enough show, even people with good intentions can get bad information and tell you something, right? Somebody that believes in their heart, like if they're a real patriot.

29:10 I think another issue that popped up in the last couple of weeks that floated around alternative media, but I think deserves even further scrutiny after what I've seen, is the admiral who jumped on Fox News with a mask on. And I don't give a shit what anybody says. That guy was wearing a mask, and that wasn't the same person. His story doesn't even make any sense. He was on with Grant Stinchfield, and Grant used to come into the studio. He had a show after mine when I was on in Dallas, when I first started radio. So I know Grant. I mean, he's a good commentator. He's trying to suss out from the admiral, like, hey, tell us it's not a mask. And the guy, he's like, we need to talk about Iran. And it looks like a different person.

29:54 So there's a lot of, like the disinformation campaign, I don't know if they, I don't even know why the mask would be involved. But there's something to all of this that you just got to watch. When somebody's pushing for war or talking about Iran's capabilities, I automatically just tune them out and start wondering who the hell they are. Because you clearly can't see that this is a lopsided thing that doesn't serve the interest of the United States. And you know what? At this point, with American policy towards Iran, it's probably going to just expedite them getting a bomb at this point. Like, it's just the way they've been smacked around by it. Well, what message have we sent the world with our invasion of Iraq or with our overthrow of Gaddafi, who even tried to give up stuff and like share intelligence with us? I'm not saying he was a great guy, but clearly he had a lot of things going on that pissed off the power structure. But, you know, Saddam, you know, getting a bomb, he didn't get one. So the message is you better get one or we'll invade. There's a reason why we have invaded North Korea. There's a reason we don't screw with Kim Jong-un. Because they got the bomb when I was in Afghanistan. They did an underground detonation. You generally know when somebody's got the bomb. The only country that's ever used nuclear weapons offensively is the United States of America. It's only us. Everybody else has them for like a sort of

31:25 Damocles. Like if you use it on us or you invade us, we're going to use the last resort. You know, kind of like the Israelis supposedly have the Samson option or whatever the hell that is. Right. It's a it's a last resort. And the whole argument from Levin and these other sycophants and weirdos, which clearly I mean, just to lend them credence of having actual intelligence is a farce because Iran doesn't need a bomb to be a suicide nation. I mean, if you look at the mathematics, how large the country that they wanted to overthrow Israel, like use conventional forces and like receive, you know, the nuclear fallout from that, they could go ahead and do it and both would be done. It's it's it's ridiculous to say that if they get a bomb, then they're the new what the new Hitler, the new the caliphate or whatever. That that argument is bunk. It's neocon garbage. It's satanic is really what it is. It's just a way to continue to keep tensions high. We should never let this get to the point where it is now. We have plenty of opportunities and inroads to keep Iran away from having a nuclear weapon. But yeah, it's an old technology with A.I. now. Like I mean, you can I mean, obviously they they've got the infrastructure, they could do it. But what is it for? Does it mean once they get it, they're going to launch it? I mean, just think about this for five minutes and turn off Fox News. Yeah, there's a reason if Ukraine had kept all those bombs that they had at the fall of the USSR, we might not be in this

32:57 situation right now. I can almost guarantee it, you know, because of the fear of it. And that's really what these things represent. Like Tony said, the United States is the only one that ever used it offensively twice. But it's laughable to think that Pakistan would actually be the suicide nation, because that would be suicide to pass through channels around a nuclear weapon. It's suicide. Yeah, no, I don't know if there's any or there's certainly no proof besides what these gentlemen said. And they said they had got inside information. But I would draw the comparison to Steve Pucinich. And like that was on David Knight. Right. I mean, well, Alex had him on several times, but it doesn't it doesn't condemn the intentions of the host. It's just that some of the people that come on will say things, you know. And I just wanted to add in they they made it clear for whatever this is worth that we are not saying that this is what that this actually happened. We are simply saying that this is what was related to us. Yes. So we they did say that Robert Barnes, who I think is another like I'm not a big fan of his, but had connections into the White House. But I felt like as far because I'm looking for hyperbole and for people that are trying to, you know, sway one opinion or the other. And I'm very cautious as far as that. But I felt like just from, you know, a non-biased perspective of listening to

34:28 them, I thought they were trying to present it as, look, we don't know. We're just relaying that this is what has been communicated to us. So, you know, whatever that's worth. But I agree of taking that with the idea of taking that with a grain of salt. And of course, like all the things that Tony was saying, like there's a lot of mitigating factors here that don't necessarily add up or track with that. But I did think it was interesting that this piece of the narrative is now trickling out for whatever reason. Yeah, no, it's out there. Jackson brought it up. I asked Jackson to tell me where where he got the information, but he hasn't yet. If you want to do that, Jackson, I'd be very interested in knowing. But it's definitely circulating. It'll be probably a story that dies out soon, you know, because that's just what these things are. But I mean, there's bigger problems over there. Right. The straight is still shut down. And I think that's that's the bigger reason. Trump has kind of pivoted on so many things. He's trying to figure out a way to put out this fire. It's not being put. It's just not happening right now. Well, none of the stuff he said that that was going to happen is happening. But I don't see any resolution over there anytime soon, man. I don't know how long this is going to go on. They're talking about the Labor Day, bro.

35:48 And that's optimistic. I don't know. What do you think? I think it's bad. I think that you're burning gasoline that's been refined about a year or so ago right now. And you talk about paying at the pump. The more uncertainty, the more the market bleeds, the more that the supply chain is strained, the more that. The more that investment capital is withheld, it's it is a fragile system, and it is really points to the creative destruction argument or the controlled demolition argument. And I don't want it to be true, by the way. But, you know, this is the great reset decade. The plans are in place of what the the lizard folk would like to see. I mean, the Klaus Schwab in Davos World Economic Forum crowd would like to see the 15 minute cities.

36:34 You'll own nothing. You'll be happy. You have to create crises to to get there. You have to if you want to destroy a country, said Vladimir Lenin, you first debauch their currency. Well, we're debauching the currency through the energy crisis. It's indirectly. And so all of these factors, you know, again, the whole thing about war post World War Two is proxy wars. You know, they had to keep that alive. You know, you have Korea, you have Vietnam, you have Somalia, you've got the Balkans, you know, you've got all that stuff. And then post 9-11 wars are fought proxy. They're not fought by nations that actually hold nuclear weapons. And in an age of nuclear weapons, it's actually made war unthinkable or should be to a rational person. But we have psychopaths like they're they're not rational at all. And they have another agenda in mind. And it's not about national security. Like we need to completely abandon that. It's not about safety. We didn't have to do any of this stuff. As a matter of fact, like we did everything the opposite of what we should have done to grow the American economy and prosperity and turn the engine back on. We've done everything to throw a wrench in that.

37:45 It's absolutely treasonous. And we're watching in a real I hope I'm wrong, by the way, but I don't see a good resolution to this. If anything comes, it'll it'll be because the other people are rational players more than we are. It won't be because of our leadership America, that the apogee of American empire, it has waned, it's in decline, and it's it's going to be a flailing empire on the way down. I mean, that's the most dangerous part. What an absolute disaster. Ashley, closing thoughts on this. Yeah, so I just wanted to add in that in in on top of everything that Tony was saying is that we also have the United States that is is meddling in the affairs of Latin America. We know that they are currently playing a part in the embargo, worsening embargoes in Cuba, that the Cuban people are suffering, that they don't have electricity, that they're worried about food spoilage, they may not even have enough food right now. They don't have gas like things are are not well, we're headed into the very hot season, so that they potentially would not have electricity for running air conditioning and stuff like that. And I agree, like what what Tony is saying is that this is that this is the end of empire stuff. And it is very dangerous, I think. The other thing that I wanted to point out is that I don't actually believe that there's real animosity between Trump and Netanyahu. But supposedly, they had a little bit of a hard conversation this week, because Trump was asking Netanyahu to essentially stop

39:20 bombing Lebanon, for the southern Lebanon all the way up to Beirut. And that that there is a potential fallout, but it is based on the perception of Israel, and Netanyahu here. Now, normally, I wouldn't think that there's anything to that. However, I do believe that people are really growing with their disdain. Like most people are not a fan of Israel, they are not a fan of PB Netanyahu right now. So I think that that potentially could be a play, it's possible that this is, you know, that this is theater. But I just found that a curious event, like maybe there is some concern for public perception as we head into the midterms, maybe not.

40:08 That's an interesting point. I never looked at it that way, as it having to do something, getting closer to the midterms. I really dismissed it, to be honest with you. I looked at the that story, and I was like, who cares? I don't care. Although, I mean, it does spark interest after you mentioned it in the way in the way that you did. I think it happened. I don't think it means anything. You know, I really don't. I don't think it messes with their dynamic at all. Bargain with the devil. Go ahead. I mean, what these are like Twilight Zone consequences. I mean, you make a bargain with the devil. You're like, Oh, well, what's the harm? You know, I'll be an Israeli first or, you know, I can get all this Adelson casino money and, you know, big, big donor, you know, and media placement. I can do all this stuff. But then you then the bill comes due. And it's like, oh, no, that that meant your life. That meant you get the golden pager. Right. You know, that meant your career, that meant your reputation, that meant your structure of power. And then for a narcissist, the supply is the nation. The supply is the and the nation's turning and the people are like, I'm done with this. And, you know, what about my golden statue? You know, all that stuff. It's it's it's imploding. So, yeah, there's going to be some there's going to be some fallout when you take away a narcissist supply. I'm trying to. Oh, there it is. Now it works. OK. Yeah. I think you're absolutely right.

41:32 And they're taking away his supply. He's going to get more dangerous as time goes on. I want to hit this before we get out of here. Apparently, there's been drills in Southern California, military drills in in real life, abandoned or empty facilities like it was a mall. Some of the areas where they were holding the Olympic Games, a hospital, you know, in in several parts of Southern California, Pasadena, a couple other places, according to this article by AOL. And there is a footage of it that they are. Actively doing this, they're not giving explanations as to why, and they're saying that this is stuff that happens all the time, the only explanation that it didn't give city leaders any explanations about anything, you know, they just said we're doing this. And that was it. When they asked why they didn't get an explanation. It's concerning to me that the federal government is able to do this without giving any explanations for one. But on top of that, I mean, yeah, this could it be something standard that that is going on? Yeah, it could be. But given the situations and given what we're currently going through, it does spark some type of alarm to see something like this in residential areas, you know, and it's it's it's been bothering some of the people. There

43:04 is footage. We will play the footage. I just wanted to show you the headline here. But they're they're saying it's it's par for the course that this thing that these things are normal, that they happen. I don't remember things like this. I mean, maybe it wasn't reported and now it is. I don't know. But I don't remember choppers out of nowhere, you know, and troops acting like they're, you know, taking over a building next door, you know, like it's so why why is this going on? It's incredibly concerning to me, given that the midterms are coming up. I don't know, man. Tony Arterburn, what's up? Well, I mean, it could be an organic event that has nothing to do with tyranny. I mean, you look at something like Operation Robin Sage out of North Carolina. I've I've seen that operation because the special operations when I was stationed there at Fort Bragg for for almost five years and that would go on and they would they would conduct in civilian areas there. Basically, it's a war game. Or you can look at Jade Helm that happened in Texas about about 12 years ago or more. Jim Mars wrote about this extensively in a book called Trillion Dollar Conspiracy around 2010 about the increased military operations and drills of the the mount complex or the simulations that they run in urban warfare or something that happens. And I don't again using civilian areas or being so close to civilian populace is not necessarily the the norm. Delta Force runs something out of Fort Bragg along

44:35 with spec ops called the Mount City. And I we trained there when before we went to part of my airborne unit, we we trained there before we went to Iraq. So like a lot of this stuff is training, but, you know, it's funny, they have all this power, all this might, where were they during the summer of love, you know, and burning down Kentucky Fried Chickens and smashing in police stations and pallets of bricks being delivered and, you know, by clearly being set up to to antagonize and get kinetic operations going in the United States are flying people all over the country to to stage protests and unrest, the United States would certainly didn't have the military involvement. So, you know, I don't welcome these kind of things, I think, but it is it is something to watch. You got to watch when when they're running internal operations. The reason that I don't like this, and I actually disdain the term, but refer to us as the homeland. Well, that infers that there's other land like what it's our country. It's hearth and home. I just sound so Orwellian or Third Reich ish. I don't like homeland. Ashley, what are your thoughts before I play the footage? Yeah, I was just going to say that this is not something not an area that I'm necessarily super familiar with. But I did also remember that in North Carolina, because it's not too far from Fort Bragg, that they would tell people that they're running certain exercises or like what Tony was talking about, that the Robin Sage exercise involves students at the U.S. Army JFK Special Warfare Center in school, and they're putting the Green Berets in a fictional

46:09 guerrilla warfare in a war game nation called Pineland. So that they will, I believe, and Tony could correct me if I'm wrong, that they will communicate with the general public that this is what is happening. And so that's kind of my the limit of my familiarity with this type of thing. But I have heard other people now, perhaps it's just conspiracy, but they had other people that had looked into other major events that happened. They had suspected that it could be something like this gone wrong. And I'm not saying that that is what happened, but I just thought that it was an interesting perspective on a potential if something like this does happen to go wrong. How is that then presented to the public? I don't know. I'm going to show the footage right now. Jackson T.

46:57 Barrett in the chat said that California is going to be declared a failed state, and that's why they're going to do things like this. Now, you might be right if they do declare California a failed state. That's totally wrong, right? It's like not even close to being correct. California is currently the fourth largest economy in the world, regardless of what you might think of California's politics. It is the fourth. It leads other countries. Only Germany and China and the United States are ahead of it. Keep that in mind when they come out and say California is a failed state, okay? If they ever come out and say that. But that's something to look forward to, right? If they could absolutely say that. It just won't be the case, but they can absolutely say that and try to invade or do whatever it is they're going to do. I want to play this footage.

47:54 Tony, you sounded like you had something to say. Go ahead. No, I just, I mean, maybe the experiment of democracy hasn't worked and California should probably be turned into some sort of monarchy. We can make the late singer of the Red Hot Chili Peppers king. That's dope. Anthony, we'll make him king of the Californians. The dream of Californication. Let me play this for you guys. Sounds good. Oh my God. That's an infrared.

48:37 Definitely a little operation going on. I'm assuming there's no, to any of this Billy, there's no injuries, right? There's nothing happened. I don't think so. I hope not. I don't know. I'm just, think about going to sleep and having to go to work the next day. And all of a sudden there's a fricking chopper. What the hell's going on here? And guns exploding. And I mean, it looked like Iran or fricking- I'd probably sleep through it. What's up, buddy? I'd probably sleep through it, but I'm weird. You're a special person, Tony. I would not. I would wake up and say, what the hell is going on here? And then go back to sleep. That's what I would try to do. I got to go to work the next day, but it doesn't look good. None of this looks good. I'm just saying it could be run of the mill, just something to keep your eye on. It's being reported in the mainstream. All right, Tony Arterburn, the wisest of all the wolves, tell the people where they can find you.

49:37 Easiest way to find me is my website. You can go to tony.gold, links to my show, Paratrooper, Arterburn Radio Transmission, got some things I'm going to be dropping soon. I keep saying it, but it's coming. I got some new show stuff coming out. And it's interesting, just covering the last many months and being on with David Knight and the whipsaw of the markets and how crazy all this stuff is. Definitely want to give people a heads up that there's something inherently wrong with the currency. Doesn't mean you go buy gold and silver from me, but I'm seeing rumblings of things that have never happened before. There's an accelerating force running through the world monetary system right now. And you can look, if you actually kind of look outside of the major headlines and see what's being built, there's a new infrastructure for currency being built. It's going to be insane. Gold will be and is the world's reserve currency right now. The dollar has been supplanted. And one of the stories that just ran was that treasuries have been surpassed by gold as the most held reserve asset by central banks. And even with all the selling off of gold in the last few months because of the war, central banks bought a net 17 tons of gold in April, net, even after the sell-offs and things to buy oil. I saw that. And I looked it up to try to gain further understanding about what that meant, because clearly it doesn't look good. And what I found was that it's not, I don't even know

51:14 what the perspective of the people that wrote this was, but they were just saying that it's more like just other countries being secure, adding security rather than turning away from the dollar. I see it differently, man. I see it as this is not good at all. I don't know if this is the infrastructure that's being built too, is what I've been covering for a while that's accelerating. And it's these physical storage houses that are being built to trade in physical. It's the paper system and trust is diminishing. So on the back of that, like in the interim, before a new system is created, they're building physical storage facilities around the world to trade in and out either for cross-border payments or whatever have you, like the Hong Kong gold storage facilities being built offside the airport. That is huge. Countries will be trading in physical, in and out of physical contracts for gold. That will be the new currency. That'll be the new system in five years. Let's see. Let's see what develops. All right. Ashley, thank you for joining us here today. We appreciate you. Tell the people what you've got going on. Yes. Thank you so much for having me again. I always love chatting with y'all and listening to the show.

52:29 They can find me over on Nights of the Storm, 2 p.m. today on our Rumble channel and also on my own show that I have just recently started in the last couple of months, which is Think, Change, Repeat, also over on Rumble. So feel free to follow along and get in touch. All right. All right. All right. Fantastic. Let me read this real quick and I'm going to shout out the chat and then we're getting out of here. This is an Apple review. We got a new one. Thank you for leaving this. This is from a Jordan original. It says the three musketeers. It is so good when all three of you are together. Don, the historian, Tony, the comedian. I mean, I told you you should have done that's the end of comedy in your past life or maybe that's what you did or whatever. But you missed your calling this life. You should have done that. And Billy is the glue that holds the show together. Well, thank you very much for leaving for leaving a five star Elmer. We appreciate you. I'm a gorilla. Gorilla. That's so great. We need more reviews. So so please do it. You know, but we appreciate the ones that we get. Thank you so much. Who's in the chat? Jackson is always active in the chat. What's up, buddy? How are you? Tim Foil Hatter. What's going on? Rainbow is in the chat. Linda, what's going on? How are you? Cat Goya. Interesting show. We appreciate you, Cat. How are you? Troll is in the chat. What's going on, Troll? I can't read your comment for some reason, but I see you there. Who else? There was a bunch of Kenny Powers, my guy.

54:02 And eight and MQ eight H.M. is here. How are you, Ron Helton? What's going on? How's everything unfiltered is in the chat. What's going on with you, Dustin Helm? What's up, my guy? How are you? Let me see what else. Who else we got here? There were other people, but they were further up in the chat. If you know who you are, what's up? We're getting out of here. My name is Billy Ray Valentine. We should be going live this Sunday. I actually have some guests lined up that I don't want to cancel, so it might force me to go on, you know. So 7 p.m. Sunday.

54:42 Don't know for how long I'll go. I also reached out to other people, so maybe we'll have some shows. I don't know. Let's see how inspired I am to do this. So keep keep your eyes out for the notification. And if you don't get a notification, just go see it after the fact on Gorilla Underground on YouTube. And eventually I'll transform the Infinite Fringe into that if I continue doing shows. All right, everybody, we appreciate you. Have fun. Let's go next. Nixon for. And like I said, I'm going to freaking run amok and you guys may not see me for an extended period of time. Tony will know and I'll let Ashley know where I'm at, but it might be a dangerous thing.

55:28 I'll just let you guys know and you guys can relate to everybody else. All right, let's get out of here. Burn the place down. Bye bye. So I've done. And.