#222 America Unplugged: The Collapse of MAGA — Live Breakdown

0:00 Donald Jeffries, author of Hidden History and Survival of the Richest, host of The Donald Jeffries Show, Billy Ray Valentine, host of the Infinite Fringe podcast, researcher, truth seeker from the Bronx, New York, Tony Arterburn, radio host, combat veteran, precious metals analyst, and alt historian. Together, they take on the headlines of the week, decode the disinformation, and plow through the mainstream propaganda, unauthorized, unscripted. Unintimidated. This is America Unplugged. What's going on, everybody?

0:45 The War on Reality Report. Hope everybody's doing well. My name is Billy Ray Valentine. Greetings from the Bronx, New York City, and I'm here with the usual suspects. And we have a very special guest this week here with us, Tony Arterburn, the wisest of all the wolves. What's up, Tony? How you doing? Oh, it's great to be back. And I hope everybody doesn't mind. I created an AI-generated meme of Don healing all of us with his wisdom. I hope that it's not inferred that he is Jesus. We didn't make it. But it is like the heavens are opening up, but he's clearly a doctor. Yes. That's what I was about to say. I mean, it shouldn't be misconstrued in any way.

1:25 Just because he's wearing it. This is what doctors wear. Clearly, they've been wearing it. I have pictures of when I was being delivered back in the day, and the doctors look just like that. I don't know what the big deal is. All doctors wear that stuff all the time. Now, go ahead, Tony, finish up. What else you got? Well, that's pretty much it. I'm hoping that I don't offend anybody with that. Oh, no, no, let's not, you know, it's healing, you know, it's a good thing, you know, and it's doctors, we are pro-doctors here on America Unplugged. The legendary Don Jeffries is here always wearing like drip severe, look at the dude, look at that shirt.

2:07 Tell the people what's going on. What's up, sir? We're seeing a relaxed, casual mood like I am 99% of the time. Does my shirt usually go? So, yeah, and I certainly hope the AI version of me is more helpful than the Elon Musk AI support team, all support team on X, which has been, I'll never get the X account back, I guess, because they won't. I hope there's some AI that's more intelligent than his AI, but it must be like a bargain basement 7-Eleven Walmart stuff for something he's using because they don't do anything. They don't respond at all. So anyhow, hopefully I make a better AI than that. No, I'm sure. I'm sure. 100%. And you look like a doctor all the time. When I think of Don, I think of doctor.

2:51 And we have a very special guest with us today. Jordan is here. What's going on? And look at this guy. Incredibly fashionable. This is the fashion edition. of America Unplugged right now. I mean, I'm just wearing a white tee, but you know, Everything I wear looks good, right? What's up, Jordan? How you doing? Say what's up to the people, brother. What's going on, guys? So good to be here. Don, Billy, nice to see you. And Tony, it's a pleasure to meet you, man. It's a pleasure, brother. Tell them about your podcast real quick, man. Yeah. So I run the Divulgence podcast. Don and Jeffrey, sorry, Don and Billy were actually a couple of my first guests on the show. I've been doing that. I did it for a couple months. I had to take a long break, but I've been back at it now.

3:33 For a better part of the year. And yeah, we talk about a lot of truth, news items. We get into conspiracies. I mean, all the stuff that I'm sure you guys talk about. Yeah, and you can get us on YouTube and Rubble. Fantastic, brother. We'll speak more about that towards the end of the show. Anyway, more shit has hit the fan. The Strait of Hormuz was open, if you believe the White House. And then it closed again. So as of right now, it is closed again. Iran is now probably a world power. You know, the way this has been shaking out, courtesy of the Trump regime. Thank you very much, Mr. Trump. And of course, again, I am continuing my celebration leading up to either the impeachment of Donald Trump and removal, the 25th Amendment, or the eventual goodbye, sayonara, even though God bless you, sir, you know, into the other realm. But you know what?

4:31 I'd be lying to you if I said that, you know, that wouldn't. We need something to happen. And I am celebrating my entire time right now that the demise of MAGUS, it is falling apart every day, more and more. And I am loving it. I am here for it. I am being 100% transparent. Well, I've always been 100% transparent. This is what I wanted. I'm going to tap dance down Fifth Avenue in front of Trump Tower. All right. When one of these things come to pass, and I'm sure I won't be the only one and we will film it here on America Unplugged, but let me tell you something. What was the biggest? Oh, yeah. He's fighting with the Pope. Now he's fighting with the Pope. He's fighting with Alex Jones.

5:16 And there's a lot of things. And I was going to go live last week on Gorilla Underground and I wasn't able to do it. And to be honest, I am not sure I'll be able to do it this week. So if you get a notification and you tune in and I'm there, then great. But yeah, Alex Jones going back and forth with this guy is hilarious to me, listening to what Alex Jones is saying. And we'll play some stuff here today and discuss it with Alex and Trump. But yeah, now he's picking a fight with the Catholics. He's just picking a fight with everybody at this point. Tony Arterburn, what do you think of this? What's his face? Pete Hegseth, our favorite Secretary of War, is talking about that, what was that, J.D. Vance?

5:57 Oh, no. Pete Hegseth was doing the Pulp Fiction prayer. I don't know if he did it for real or not. I don't know. There's that. And I think J.D. Vance... He's also reporting to Samuel L. Jackson, yeah. And J.D. Vance was lecturing the Pope on what to say, which is amazing to me. So that's the two things that went on there. What's up, Tony? What do you think of the situation? Well, I don't like Pete Hexeth, but I think in his defense, he was reading something by the, I think it's the Cav Scouts or something. Like it was one, you know, a specific branch of the army or something that they were using that. They redid the prayer of Pulp Fiction's interpretation of Ezekiel 25, 17, which when I was a kid, I went and looked in the Bible. I wanted to see if it said that.

6:48 And, of course, it doesn't. I mean, it's not word for word. A lot of it's ad-libbed, and it's part of the mythos of Pulp Fiction. So, in his defense, I think he was just citing that, like it was a made-up thing by a part of the aviation wing of the army. At least that's the way I understood it. But, no, doesn't Pete Hegseth and J.D. Vance, I think they might be the same person, or maybe the trifecta between them and Erica Kirk. Maybe they're all just, like, interacting on the same level, like, spiritually. I'm not quite sure. When they come together, they make up Baphomet. That's right. You can place a child in their lap, like one of those. Yeah, you can be Moloch.

7:29 But, you know, it's interesting And not that this is a great comparison Because if you know And if you read something like American Memory Hole By the great Don Jeffries Or Hidden History You'll realize that, Joe McCarthy was right about a lot of things and demonized through history, but one of the things that happened, at least in the mythos of that, was just the army representative that showed up in one of the hearings, and I think his name was Welch, and he said, you know at long last have you no decency sir you know at long last you know have you no decency and that moment was like this this watershed event for mccarthyism and it collapsed on itself right or wrong by the way because if you know what we know about you know the the history of mccarthy and what he was trying to expose it's not as convenient as the popular culture but that That moment, whatever that you what what you witnessed then at that time in the 50s is happening now to the Trump presidency.

8:30 It's jumped the shark and it's it did that a long time ago. But it's it's now settling into the psychology and the diehards. And you can tell. Do you know how you can tell the political landscape is shifting. Billy, is that the money, you know, power is where power goes and the money is flowing out in other directions. The future is not with MAGA or what Trump had built. It's not with who is riding his coattails right now. It's not there. It is going somewhere else. It's disintegrating, you know, and it's decompartmentalizing, if that makes sense. So whatever that movement was is morphing into something else. It's going into hibernation.

9:11 It's finding other avenues. But the power axis and everything that he had is falling apart. And you're watching the psychological deconstruction of a malignant narcissist happen, which is a very dangerous territory for all of us as somebody who's commander in chief and acting clearly on behalf of a foreign nation, not the American people. This isn't our foreign policy. So it's, you know, when even Alex Jones jumps off, and this is, again, if you know anything about radio or if you know anything about, and I was a fill-in host for Infowars for, you know, a few years.

9:51 If you know anything about how much structure that has and what the audience demands, like, that's a big departure. So that also means that Alex Jones' audience. Is no longer interested in Trump, right? So this is a big moment, I think, for the future of politics in America, whatever that means anymore. But you're talking about the midterms. This war, and I'm looking at antiwar.com right now, and most of the insiders believe that this is going to drag on. The war with Iran, the peace talks, all of that is going to drag on for at least six more months. Meanwhile, you've got oil spiking, supply chains being destroyed, and the economy is going to be in the severe doldrums because of lack of certainty and high prices and inflation.

10:43 So that seems like a foregone conclusion at this point that the Democrats sweep both the House and the Senate, in my opinion. And it's probably going to get even worse. So lots to unpack there, but this is perhaps the beginning of the end. It's definitely the house right definitely the house the senate is a little more more iffy but they can go ahead and take that too white wolf was talking about what's up white wolf how are you, about uh what will step into the vacuum once maga completely falls apart but tony just spelled it out for you that's what's gonna happen and i think we'll be in a better position to fight back you know and and and that's why i want maga out you know even though right now the way it's looking MAGA has fallen apart to a point that we can fight back on MAGA, which is good.

11:33 But I mean, there's still the cult members that still exist, but that's always been a small percentage of this, you know, in, in 2016, in spite of. No, in 2016, even with Cambridge Analytica taking place in the 2016 election, Trump still lost the popular vote. You know, in 2024, he won the popular vote. So it's a different deal, you know, coming into it. But it was a coalition that put this guy up. It wasn't just a mega cult. The cult is a very small percentage of of America, you know, that are full on cult members and that follow Trump.

12:18 Regardless, I think we'll be in a better position to fight back for our interest. And when I mean our interest, I mean the people, us. Right. And what what serves us best. So hopefully, you know, once the Democrats gets in, MAGA is going to hate him. You know, all the Republicans are going to hate him. And and the Democrats are already they the only reason they're voting for him is because they hate Trump so much. Right. They don't like a lot of these people either. So we're going to be in good in good standing, I think, to be able to put I hope this is a hope of mine to be able to push back. Don Jeffries, what's going on? What are you thinking? Well, first of all, Jackson T. Barrett, I guess he's one of the remaining faithful. It looks like he still has some faith in Trump.

13:00 He's saying that basically Trump is playing 8 million degree chess again, where he's inadvertently exposing BBNet and exposing the greater original project. And he also says Elon promises universal high income instead of the UBI. I am not going to say anything good about Elon Musk until my ex account is restored. So until then, I'm saying nothing good about him. It's stupid AI support of him. But I would love to see a universal high-income. We've never seen a high-income in this country. We've always had where most people lose at the casino economy. But who knows what's going on with this. I said I think Billy Ray will probably be pleased. I mean, yeah, I don't make predictions, but I'd facetiously said a while back that it may end with Trump being taken from the White House in a street jacket, kicking and screaming.

13:48 And I think that may happen. That's the way it's looking. Because he can't you know attacking the pope i mean what's going to be his next thing i don't i think he's going to go after melania because melania made that you know statement that didn't fit with the program so we'll see if he hasn't done it yet maybe he'll do that i don't know maybe he'll attack his kids i don't know what he could possibly do next but he is nobody's saying, yeah harps doesn't like your flat earth net but not after the success of artemis he says you know it doesn't well after that wonderful successful show you read my latest sub stack i have some thoughts on that so. But here it is with Jackson. I was looking for it. Yeah, yeah. I don't even know if Jackson is trolling at this point to say something like this.

14:33 And that's 8 million degrees, yes. But, I mean, that's Q. That's Q right there. Because that's basically, because that's the entire point of the Q PSYOP is to somehow say that, yeah, Trump certainly appears to be doing everything opposite to what he said and countered, but it's all part of the plan. that he's doing it on purpose. And that's what he's doing now. Apparently, it looks like he's kowtowing to Israel and holding a baby net in his chair and listening to everything he says, but really he's exposing him. And of course, they have one thing in their favor that the entire world does seem to be trying against Israel. I mean, it's an 8 million degree chance, but I mean, you've got the president of Spain and the president of Italy both and saying, hey, look, Israel's the world's problem.

15:20 So I think that's still the big issue is that it's going to eventually – it says Trump's playing four-dimension chess. That's pretty much it. But at this point, it's just USA. I mean, does Israel have any other supporters? I don't think so. Everybody's turning against them, and I like the fact that people are saying they're a world problem. They are. And they're a world problem because we're financing them. They wouldn't be a world problem if we didn't give them the money. They'd be just a trust fund baby and homeless on the street somewhere. But because we keep giving them money and keep giving them munitions. They keep causing trouble. I mean, what Peter was saying, I guess the latest, every time we have some kind of a ceasefire or something, Israel goes and bonds somebody. Uh-huh.

16:03 And they did it again. Immediately. So it's like, yeah, immediately. They're like, it's just, but I do like the fact that, I don't think it's because Trump's been playing 8 million-degree chess, but I don't know. More of you look at it, Israel is being exposed, Zionist is being exposed, then that's a good thing. So let's hope this new coalition can form with people on the left and the right that retired designers are controlling things. You know what? I think I've realized something. It's one of my many awakenings throughout my process here in the alt media. I think Jackson T. Barrett is trolling us. This entire freaking thing. You think so? He might. I think he's just trolling people. Yo, Jackson, props to you, brother.

16:46 Yeah, I like the comment. And you know what? I think he's on to something. You talk about it. Is it merely chess? you guys are playing checkers you know you're midwits I get that and I think I think that Donald Trump has played some chess I think some serious maybe eight dimensional chess because you know James Carville came and you guys see the article James Carville came out you know he's the one it's the economy stupid the lizard guy that put Bill Clinton in office reptilian yeah yeah he said just effing do it and you know what he's talking about he's talking about the Democrats have a plan for permanent rule And I've been saying this for years, coast to coast, California. All they got to do is add Puerto Rico, add D.C., add another territory, whatever.

17:31 You get the two senators are always going to be Dems. You can stack the Supreme Court. He's that's what he's talking about. He's like, just do it. And the reason that they'll have the momentum to be able to do that is because this happened. Like the entire, all the coalitions of the Liberty Movement, whether it's Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan, the nationalism, the traditionalists, they coalesced around Donald Trump because that was the message that no one had ever received. Again, taking an organized approach to whether there was obviously things like Cambridge Analytica and other things that data mined, but that's what people wanted to hear. Somebody finally did it. Now you're talking about generations will pass before it'll ever even have the ability to even resurface again because it's been such a clown show and there's the controlled demolition of the opposition to one party rule.

18:22 So that's what I've been saying for years. I mean, and by the way, I'm one of these people that thinks that stack the House with Democrats. You know, stack the Senate with, I want impeachment hearings at this point. It's so corrupt and we've gone to war for no reason other than to help a foreign nation. So I'm on board for that, but it doesn't mean that I don't forget. Right, well, exactly, that's good. I'm on board for it and I'm coming to you right now, Jordan. I'm on board for it to get rid of the cancer but then we got to figure something out about the chemotherapy here okay we got we got it because it's you know like I mean that doesn't mean one party rule isn't good either that doesn't mean you hand over all of this power that Trump has amassed to the next person it doesn't it doesn't mean that at all you know so I'm cool with getting rid of this guy we need to get I think anybody that I'll say this when you pass to the joint you know this loss of this once in a multi-generational chance to reset the power structure that's clearly an op. It's clearly an operation.

19:26 And it was never intentional. It was never for real. So now we've got to deal with this. But in the aftermath, there's going to be a push for one party rule. And demographically, something Don and I have always talked about, once it goes, once a state goes blue, whatever you want to call that, it doesn't come back. I'm living in one now. Let me get a question here, Dan. Let me get a question. Yeah, go ahead, Jordan. Come on, Jordan. Jordan, you're muted or something. Oh, no, no. Good. Yeah, a lot to unpack. I mean, I think Trump's, I mean, he got in with, we were talking about Cambridge, Analytica, and how he got in, but he kind of got in with this momentum that he's different, he's going to shake things up, he's going to tax the rich, he's going to whatever.

20:17 And I mean over his two between his first and now terms I mean obviously he's just, Some people think that he's changed, but I think he's just getting more and more erratic and audacious with how he acts and how he makes his policy. And now he's losing, you know, mega. He's losing huge people that may not claim to be mega, but obviously they're Trump supporters. He's getting into a fight with the Pope, and that's going to create a huge wedge between him and Christians. Which, I mean, doesn't go so well with the Christians who don't necessarily support Israel, because obviously there's a lopsided issue with Israel.

21:06 And I feel like obviously there was a point where, and it was probably months back now, where, okay, you know, things need to start to change or else, you know, 2028 might be gone and the midterms will be gone. And now we're at a point where, I mean, it seems likely that the midterms are are are not going to go well for the Republicans overall, I'd say. And I think I think once the Democrats get more power and if if they do take 2028, I think it's just going to be this this pendulum where, you know, it goes one way and then the retribution tour starts and then it swings way, way too far back in the other direction.

21:48 And with the envelopes Trump keeps pushing, I think it's just setting up a very, very volatile future politically and socially and how we interact with other countries. Obviously, all these freaking wars are going on. And if it does get to the point where it is getting back to what Tony was saying about a one party rule and if and if it can't go back like that. I don't know what the future of the country will hold, but it sounds like more and more of a, it could get more into like a cult-like feeling because I feel like cult and politics have gone very close together over the past 10 years. Agreed. Agreed, brother. Hold on for a second. Yeah, totally agreed. If there is a one party rule, it's on us.

22:33 We got to remember that. This is on us, right? So it's on us to spread awareness. It's on us to make better choices. it's on us to realize what the game that we're playing right if if we are actively engaged in a game of monopoly but we're playing connect four instead it's not going to freaking work right and you may not agree with whatever the game is you may be like oh i don't want to sitting out isn't going to do us any favors it's just not it hasn't we've been bitching about this here in the media for years now. What has changed? Absolutely nothing. It's only gotten worse. It's only gotten worse.

23:14 And then we got co-opted at that, you know, to lead us to where we are now. So we need to figure it out. There's probably some truth to what Tony was saying. Right. And that's the same on the other side. They're actively trying to pull it off or MAGA. The Republican Party doesn't exist anymore. And I would I would and I've promoted this several times. I would say that anybody that considers themselves a Republican separate themselves from MAGA. It is different. Because otherwise, it's over. If you keep like interchanging these terms, as simple as it sounds, you keep associating Republicans and conservatism, true conservatism with MAGA, you're done.

23:56 It's over. It took all of these years, but it's done. So if there's, like Tony said, I think it's a foregone conclusion in 2026, unless some extreme action is taken on behalf of the Trump regime. And by extreme, I mean extreme, right? They're going to have to take over these elections, and it's going to be evident that they're doing that. Same in 2028. And I wouldn't put it past them for trying, but I think they're too incompetent to pull it off. You're going to get a Democrat in 2028, most likely. And let's see if everybody yells fraud and all this nonsense as a result. I don't know. Does anybody have something to say? Otherwise, I want to play some Alex Jones. Tony, what time? Let's play some Alex Jones. Give me a little bit of...

24:42 Say one more thing. What a freaking doof, bro. Yo, I'm glad you brought that up. You know he's going to say something. You know he's going to say something, so why? I don't know if anybody... Has anybody on the panel ever seen Friday? The movie? Oh, yeah. When uh the ice cube one yeah yeah yeah yeah okay yeah yeah yeah when when the guy walks into the record store and and and he pulls out a gun on ice cube and he keeps asking him questions and he's like don't say a damn thing and then the guy starts he asks him questions what's your name and he starts talking say one more thing say one more thing i'm like what are you doing dude like if you say and then yeah i'm gonna put i'm gonna play alex we'll we'll talk about alex but the hypocrisy of this, man.

25:29 And I was having a conversation with Ashley from Nights of the Storm and I was telling her how embarrassed I am and how regretful I am, you know, that I listened to that piece of shit for 10 years, brother. Without missing one freaking episode. I listened to him for 15 years. After 10 years, I started saying, all right, something's up, but I still listened, you know, and then now I don't, I rarely listen. I listen to clips. I should be listening just to freaking dissect his punk ass, but it's, it's, it's, uh, I am ashamed of that. It's, it's, I'm, I'm ashamed and embarrassed that I was so vulnerable that I subscribed to that nonsense for so long, you know?

26:17 So, and you see him now talking about freaking, Oh, say one more thing and I'll expose you. So what does that say about Alex Jones? If you knew all along, if you had that one thing, at least one thing in your back pocket, you were not showing the people for all of these years. For what exactly? For what? So you're protecting Donald Trump. And in a sense, if you're protecting Donald Trump and you know that he's involved with Epstein, then you're protecting pedophiles. So it goes further and further. But he's saying it and everybody's like, oh, he's against Donald Trump now because it's cool to be against Donald Trump all of a sudden, right?

26:57 And all of the right wing pundits that were instrumental in getting his punk ass where he is right now are now pulling back. And they're all doing it collectively at the same time. And that's suspicious as shit to me. It's so because why now? All of you, why now? What was so different? He depicted himself as Moses not too long ago. You guys didn't have a problem with that. He's all over the Epstein files. Some of you had a problem with it. But still, you were, well, you know, it's lies. It's, you know, this is a deep state, rouge, to try to take down MAGA. And even with his opposition, he still says some of this shit.

27:40 All right. All right. Let me pull up the clip, Tone. Reactions to that, and then I'm pulling up the clip. Go ahead, sir. Yeah, this is, something that goes back to 2015 for alex jones at least and that's you got to remember if you want and you watched many many years of infowars and so did i yuck and then eventually i you know i was a fill-in host there and billy knows billy knows other stories that would not everybody knows it's uh we might have to recount that uh someday but you had to fill in tony there i thought tony was an on-air personality at infowars for david knight for for several years yeah oh i i'm sorry I did not know that. So, one of the, the few good things to ever come out of that filth rag of an operation was Tony Argerburn. Anyway, go ahead.

28:28 So I think really what happened is, this is my opinion, is that this is about the audience, okay? The reason that all the commentators, these people are jumping off the ship at the same time is because the audience has finally had enough. And that's where the market share comes from. InfoWars was completely different in 2015 as it was in 2017. And everybody, anybody that tuned in knows that it became an operation to promote, you know, the Republican Party and Trump and that, whatever MAGA had become and the audience share exploded. So there was this audience that you had to contend with. Once you've locked that in and you've become accustomed to that's who orders your products and that's who, you know, shows up and supports your network and everything else, there's, it's like, it's the reason our numbers aren't 100x what they are.

29:21 Okay, it's not about being smart or anything or having good analysis. It's about not towing that line because that's what the audience wants to hear. So this is where the audience, this is what I've been saying. I think the audience has finally done, which is the death knell. Yes, I agree with you. Okay, well, I'm going to play this clip. Then we're going to go around the horn. Here we go. I'm giving you five seconds if you guys are repulsed by this poor excuse for a human, Tune out. I won't blame you. Come back. If you're on the podcast and you want to fast forward a few minutes, it's a 55 second clip. I'm just giving you a heads up. You don't want to listen to this shit in your ear holes. I totally get it. So just fast forward 55 seconds and I might stop it in between because I can't help myself sometimes.

30:06 So there's that. But I'm giving you fair warning that I'm about to play Alex Jones, reptilian extraordinaire, disgusting piece of filth, the hypocrite, liar, grifter, you name it. I'm about to play him right now. Let's hope the audio works, the audiovisual department here at the PW Hustle. Oops, listen to me. Adam Merritt Unplugged isn't exactly the greatest sometimes, so let's go. This is a new Trump, and it's so unhinged. He's the guy that had all these countless bankruptcies for casinos and hotels, and basically these pumping dumps. But then he looks at me, that was shut down by a billion and a half dollar judgment would try to shut me down it was totally rigged and now he's siding with the people that attacked him against myself and others so this is the new trump he can't be this stupid he's made some deal with the global stuff above it no doubt the rothschilds are his biggest bankers that's on record they're the funny now he's already running cover he's already running cover all right for for one second this story about the rothschilds we we all know though if you're paying attention If you've been paying attention to America Unplugged or even any of the right-wing pundits, well, not any of them, but at least from Sam Tripoli on down, you know that Wilbur Ross was involved with the freaking Rothschilds and you know the connections of Trump and the Rothschilds. This is nothing freaking new.

31:35 But they were open to letting all of that go looking the other way and lying to you about it. Remember that. They lied to you. They lied to you, Jack. All of them. Candace Owens lied to you. Joe Rogan lied to you. Alex Jones lied to you. Go down the list. They lied to you. And they are continuing to lie to you. I don't agree. Although I agree with what they're saying right now, I don't agree with their motives. All right. Most properties, not the Russians and Rothschilds out of the U.K., And he's sabotaging the midterms. This is a deal. He's not this stupid. And watch what happens. He's dumb as fuck. He's dumb as fuck. He's dumb as fuck midterms. That is the facts.

32:16 But, you know, he's all saying, I'm fired. Fired from what? I'm not needing access to Trump. I don't. You can tell he's so pissed. I wanted Trump to be good. I wanted his policy to be good and not turn against what he stood for. There's way more of this, of course. And I'll play some on Guerrilla Underground. It is WrestleMania weekend. What's up, Kenny Powers? How you doing? So I'm not sure if I'll go live or not, or if I'll be able to, because there'll be people here. But yeah, man, he's, even in his defiance, he's running cover for freaking Donald Trump. It's incredible. And there's either a severe lack of self-awareness, or they just think you're dumb as stones.

32:59 Maybe both. I don't know. But he's out here telling you, running down a history of the reasons why people that were opposed to Donald Trump were opposed to Donald Trump. I mean, the whole gamut. And he's telling you now, but he didn't tell you all that time before, but he knew all this information before. But it wasn't a problem before. All of a sudden, it's a problem now. All right, Tony, what's up? And then we're going around home. Well like i said i this is a calculated move and he's reading the tea leaves along with a lot of other commentators and people that are in the space and you know right or wrong if if the poll numbers were high if even if trump had deviated in my opinion even if he had deviated completely and the poll numbers had held i don't think we'd be having this conversation i don't think that it's not about what necessarily didn't happen or happened it's about the loss of market share This is clearly what this is. And this is my opinion.

33:58 I mean, I don't think, and, you know, there is the personal component of Trump's meltdown and his narcissism and everything else. He does lash out and do stupid things, like just attacking Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson. I mean, stupid move, you know, because you really can't put that genie back in the bottle. Like once you've taken that out, I mean, he's completely isolating himself. That's what narcissists do. But I think just at the end of the day, what drives alternative media, what David Icke, by the way, I dropped my David Icke interview last night, so it's up on my YouTube channel. It's on my podcast channel if you want to hear me talking to David Icke outside of London in his offices.

34:39 Can we drop it on the America Unplugged stream? Yeah, I need to. I'll add it here in the next day or so. But yeah, I think, you know, David Icke calls it, you know, ma'am, the mainstream alternative media. And I mean, there's a big, there's a lot of logic to that. So this is about loss of market share. And the audience is clearly walking away. He's had his McCarthy moment. So you think that's why everyone is doing it, because their audience is walking away? Yes. So they're turning against Trump in order to retain their audience, because the audience has had it. It's a good theory. Don Jeffries, the legendary. What's up, buddy?

35:20 Oh, again, I wish I had the faith of Jackson T. Beer and some others, assuming it's real. But yeah, I don't. We certainly know that Epstein worked for the Rothschilds, so he had a direct connection to them. So what Trump's connection is, I'm not sure, but they all seem to have that connection. But as I said, I think that whatever's happening, I still am holding to the Trump and Stein Project. I think this is an act. As I said, I've got enough experience with older people in my family over the course of time that have had Alzheimer's or dementia. I've seen it up close and personal. And never is there anything remotely like that that I've seen in anybody that would explain Trump, where you suddenly become like a 10-year-old calling names and stuff.

36:03 I mean, the next thing you play, he's got a super delayed Tourette's syndrome or something. It doesn't work like that. It works like it did with Biden, where you're kind of outing. You're forgetful, and they may let somebody like Biden go, because Biden was no threat to do anything. He was, the way he's acting is a threat to do really bad things, maybe. And maybe good things, who knows. But the people that control him, and he is controlled, they would not let a wild card like that exist. If they really thought he was losing his mind and he, hey, we don't know where he's going to sit next. We can't control him. We don't have the guy reading this stuff for him. Just want to make it look like that. They would never let that happen. He could hold a press conference and say, you know, I've been lying all my life, you know, I'm cheating everybody. 9-11 was an insane job, of course Oswald didn't kill JFK. I mean, Hogan was a hoax.

36:53 You could say all kinds of crazy stuff. They don't know if he's really out of their control, he could do that. And conversely, he could drop a nuclear weapon somewhere if they didn't, and they wouldn't want him to do that unless they proved it. So I think this is part of the act. He's doing a great job acting like it, but it's mostly what he's saying. When he talks, he just says, he's just fighting all the time, attacking the folk and calling them names. That's kind of what he's always done. It's just he's shooting for bigger targets now. He didn't do that before. And again, that's not part of any mental illness I know, where you suddenly develop a super immaturity at age 79 and start acting like a nine-year-old that somebody took their toys away. That's not how it works.

37:39 So somebody identify what this dementia is. What kind of, maybe they'll come up with some super Trump-style dementia, but nobody's ever had it before that I know. So I think this is an act, and I think, I think Billy Ray and millions of others are going to be pleased, because I think maybe the act is leading up to him being taken out in the White House in a straitjacket. And millions will hear, you know, and millions of MAGA people will be disillusioned, and maybe, you know, retire from politics, I don't know. Maybe that's the whole point of this. But I don't think there's anything organic about this at all. It's somebody there who has Trump's rhythm done. And everybody impersonates Trump, so everybody can do it. We can all write like Trump.

38:21 On crops and, you know, ridiculous juvenile insults and stuff. So people, they're just shooting for bigger fry now. They bought after the Pope. That's pretty big. So we'll see what he does next. But I think that, you know, again, if he's lost his mind, what would be probably most on his mind if he was really losing it, the control Israel has over him? So then he might all impress talk and say, this is ridiculous. I'm not letting these guys control me. For too long, they've been doing that. He's never going to do that. He's doing whatever they say. So, you know, maybe I'm wrong. I said, maybe they'll come up with some kind of super— nobody ever heard of Alzheimer's disease until about 40, 50 years ago. So maybe they'll come up with a Trumpenstein disease like they did with Lou Gehrig. Nobody had that disease before Lou Gehrig.

39:04 And now everybody has—you know, some people get a long time in the L.S. Maybe it'll be some new Trump strain, and people just in old age, they'll develop this thing where they get really immature, and they pick food fights. They start attacking everybody irrationally and acting like they're the girl. They're putting pictures that think they're Jesus Christ and claim their doctor, that kind of stuff. So, who knows? It's a really super egotistical type of dementia. My experience, that doesn't exist anywhere. It'd be Diet Coke disease, Don. It does. He said Diet Coke. Did he say he cured cancer or something? It got rid of grass or something? I think he was kidding, though. When people take it out of context, they're like, it's real. I think he was just trying to be funny, although he does drink a bunch of Diet Coke. But yeah, no, he...

39:51 He's always been a buffoon. He's always been an idiot. He's always said exactly the same things he is saying now. And there's a clip circulating from the early 90s or maybe the 80s. I'm not sure. I saw it yesterday. Brissom sent it to me. And it is verbatim exactly the same crap he's saying right now. You know, so he's always been a freaking dumbass of epic proportions. And that's why I was like, the American public has got to catch up to this, right? And know that this isn't a thing. But on top of that, what's going around is frontal temporal dementia. And he fits a lot of the symptoms of that. And that doesn't happen overnight.

40:35 He's been suffering for this shit for at least 10 years. It just continues to get worse and worse and worse. It was evident during the campaign, but people didn't give a shit. Alex Jones also didn't give a shit. Candace Owens didn't give a damn. Tucker Carlson didn't give a damn. Tucker Carlson sat there, and then I'm coming to Jordan, sat there and said, look, she didn't put his hand on the Bible. Motherfucker, you were there when it happened and you didn't have a freaking problem with it then. But now all of a sudden, now you want to say, oh, look, he didn't put his hand on the Bible and using that as something wrong. No, no, no, no, no, no. All of these people. I don't believe Trump is an actor, but if anybody's trying to put on a show, it's these freaking people because they want your money.

41:23 They want your eyeballs. They want your ear holes. They want your attention. So they'll say whatever the hell it is they want to say in order to get that. Jordan, what's up, buddy? Well i i agree with what you're saying i mean i agree with what everyone's saying here but yeah with with for example the hand on the bible like i had i don't know if you guys know who jackson laymeyer is he's he created pastors for trump he's i guess one of his spiritual advisors a little lower down the line but yeah he's friends with the trumps he knows the trumps and all that and i had him on the show and i tried to ask him some questions to like you know kind of pin it to him and say you know is this is this how a christian should be acting and is is this right and he was kind of just saying well he's he's a tool of god and he's the sword that god uses to kill evil and yada yada yada but yeah i want now that the the the no hand on the bible is coming up i'd love to add that to the list of questions to ask him like you're okay with this But it seems that his people will just make, you know, any number of excuses for him.

42:32 For example, with the Jesus thing, he says, you know, oh, I thought I was a doctor. And then when people hit him on that, I've heard people saying, well, if you look close enough, you know, he's got a smirk on his face and you know what he's saying and you can figure it out. You know, some of these people seem to have this like Trump decipher code that, you know, they don't want to share with anyone else. But as soon as someone calls Trump on something, they're at them saying, well, you don't know what the hell he's talking about. Right. So, yeah. But, you know, now that he's losing, you know, mega, he's, you know, I think Christians are getting upset with him. He's losing all these big pundits and influencers and personalities.

43:13 I think that, I think the excuses are eventually going to stop. I mean, the people that are loyal to him are obviously either 95, between 95% and 105% loyal to him, right up until the point that they aren't. So it's hard to see when these people are going to turn, and they'll make numerous excuses until that point comes, and then they'll just go full-blown hypocrite, right? But yeah, it's just, again, I go back to cult. It's just this kind of cult atmosphere And just mixing politics With celebrities And big personalities And saying whatever the hell you want That I think has just created A bit of a swamp that I don't know what the future is going to hold And I also agree with.

44:04 Donald, I mean, we could all be Donald Trump. We can all sign stuff with a Sharpie, right, instead of doing it with a pen like you're supposed to. We can, you know, he thinks that, you know, we could all go to McDonald's instead of, you know, having a presidential dinner. But I don't know. I think that he's been doing these tricks for years. I agree with what Billy says. He hasn't changed at all. He's still as stupid. He's still as shady. He's still as much as of a snake. But I think that celebrity effect and then that politician celebrity effect and then that presidential celebrity effect, it's just allowed him just to get away with so much. And now we're at this point where now people are just look like hypocrites when they do try to turn on them. And it's just a topsy-turvy kind of world.

44:52 Beautiful. I do. Before we get out of here, we don't have any new reviews on Apple podcast since last week. And that means you guys got to get on it. So, all you people listening. There's tons of people listening over on Rumble and over on the podcast. So, please give us a five-star review. If you agree, disagree, put it down. Give us five stars. We will address it here on America Unplugged Live, no matter what you say, as long as you give us the five stars. I left up this comment because I want to address it. It's my guy, Kenny Powers. How you doing? And Kenny's the dude, you know, and he doesn't always agree, but he's always around and he always listens.

45:35 And I think he likes the show. He likes wrestling for sure. And WrestleMania is now. So we should talk about that, Kenny. But this was an interesting comment because a lot of people feel this way. And he's saying that no matter what's going on, right, how does it actually affect your life? For a lot of people, it doesn't It seems as if it doesn't affect their lives Well, I mean, If it doesn't affect your life, good for you. But that doesn't mean it doesn't affect everybody else's life. You know, and maybe you're not seeing how it affects your life. There is that dimension of it, too. But I want to go around the horn before I give my thoughts. Tone, what's up?

46:17 Well, I'll make this as brief as I can. I remember when Don had G. Edward Griffin on his show and I was producing and I got to talk to G. Edward because I was on the show for just a little bit. And I asked him what the greatest danger that he could see in his long life of real service, like G. Edward Griffin, the author of The Creature from Jekyll Island, just kind of like Don, these are people that have dedicated their lives to the truth. They're not grifters. You know, they care about the work, their scholarship. They care about... Getting things right. G. Edward Griffin, I think he had some great wisdom to impart. He said, beware of controlled opposition, because it'll appear like the thing that is supposed to help you when actually it's there to destroy you.

47:05 And he was referencing the Trump movement. Now, this was, gosh, Don, this was probably five years ago, something like that, four or five years ago that we did that. And we were already on that train long before. But I think is the question to how it affects your everyday life. If you're inside of a mind work, if you're inside of a psychological operation, there's a reason for that. So it's affecting you. And I do believe that the West, that the United States, part of this made-up political movement that had, by the way, had good goals. Most of it was good goals that I agreed with. But that's been so distorted and bastardized now that it will take generations to recover, if it ever does.

47:50 And I think that was part of it. America was the last, and this still is the last best hope of Earth, I believe. The Bill of Rights is what really makes that possible. And the lineage of everything from Western civilization, from the Magna Carta on, to the Mayflower Compact, to the Constitution. I think these are all things that are positive for human liberty. Well, in order to take America off the stage, make it a one-party rule controlled by globalist entities who don't even care about nation states or humanity in general, I think the way that you would do that is to make sure that there's no cohesive, nationalistic, traditional, libertarian movement, and you just got to put a clown at the head and make sure that everything becomes a funhouse mirror version of itself. So that's how it affects you.

48:40 All right. Don, what's up? Give us your thoughts. Well, I would amend that a little bit, the comment that doesn't really affect our lives. And again, I've been following politics since I was a little kid when RFK was running for president. And nothing has ever happened, and that's what the promise of Trump was, that has positively affected my life in politics. Negatively, yes. Then it gets a little bit better, but nothing to where, again, we're not going back to the 50s when every job paid a living wage and all that. And, you know, obviously for the last 40 years, at least 45 years, things have been going downhill in terms of financially. So the great hope of Trump, despite his personality, everybody knew who he was, this New York shyster or whatever the hell he is, but his rhetoric was great.

49:28 And it promised to maybe make things better. Even last year, a $5,000 Doge check would have made things better for every family. Getting rid of the IRS would have made things a lot better. Getting rid of all taxes on people making $250,000 less than two, it would make them a lot better. That would have been something that, again, that's why I said, if he does any of this, that's never been done in my lifetime. No politician has said anything good. So I keep talking about Huey Long. He's the last one that did it to people in Louisiana, at least. No politician just came to do some good things, but it wasn't at that level. None of these guys do anything good. And that's what the ultimate disappointment of Trump is and why this is so disillusioning is because he, and so many people are still holding on to it.

50:13 Jack Steve Baird thinks he's eliminating the national net and ending the Fed. Brother, I don't know what to smoke, but I'd like to be smoking it. Because, I mean, that'd be wonderful if he was doing that. That'd be his biggest cheerleader. You know, so he's talking about BlackRock. He's having BlackRock. You know, again, this... There were so many things. If he had done any of the things that he promised, bring the troops home from the river sea, that would not really impact our lives that much, but you might eventually get a peace dividend if you do something like this, which we've never had. And so there's so many things that could have been done. You know, building the infrastructure, that would have done something. The infrastructure hasn't been touched in my lifetime since I was too small to remember it.

50:57 So you're talking about that at least would, you know, we'd have what they have in China. that. They might not have much in China, but they have a damn clean infrastructure and fast internet, high-speed transit that you don't have to worry about. They've got that. We don't have that. So we have nothing at this point. All we have is the promise of the founders, which none of our leaders need to do. And we're eventually going to lose free speech because you can see that's the way it's going. People don't want to. 37 states now have passed some kind of measure against anti-Semitism, which they can't even defend.

51:37 37 states. That's frightening. And eventually it's 50. And so these are the things. And, of course, Trump was never going to touch into that because he's the most Israeli-controlled president we've ever seen. But it's just such a shame. If you look at Doge, and we discussed Doge so much, if Doge had been remotely what it was promised to be, if that was really an accounting, an inventory of government, that would have been a great thing. Because no matter what, the police commission found in the 1980s that 33% of all government spending was waste, fraud, and abuse. That was then. And of course, Reagan, nothing about it, because Reagan's the closest thing we've had to Trump in terms of being an absolute phony. He never did what he said, but millions adored him. Millions still adore Reagan.

52:22 I talk about it. I have to try to say, well, if you read my books about his real record, but they still adore him. They can't wait. They named an airport after him over here, and they can't wait to name stuff after him. And eventually that will be Trump probably, unless he is taken from the White House in a strange age, which could happen. He'll have a bunch of stuff named after him too, and that'll be the ultimate winning. That's the only winning we get from Reagan is, hey, we named something after him. Cool. Oh, Reagan Airport, man, that really affected my life. And maybe did you have Donald Trump elementary schools and stuff? I don't know. That'll be his ultimate warning, but we haven't won at all. He's going to be sick of winning. Let's get Jeffrey Epstein elementary schools at that point if we're going to have freaking Donald Trump elementary schools. Oh, mother.

53:06 At that point, right? If we're going to go that far, you know, putting pedophiles on the names of elementary schools. Disgusting. Disgusting stuff. That's not going to happen. I mean, I want to see the total destruction of this. I want to see that do you erase from the freaking history books. I know a lot of people here don't like James Carville, but I will tell you, when he said, I want more Trump derangement syndrome, he's like, I want more. He's like, God, give me more hate. I'm like, yes, that's the energy we need right there. What's up, Jordan? What's going on? oh man I'm loving this this is great I'd say how my life has changed from like learning about what's going on and the lies being told I mean when I first started learning about it I wanted to learn more and then when I learned more I realized okay the people around me don't seem to realize what I'm reading and realizing so it made me want to meet other people and then luckily podcasts came along.

54:06 And that made me want to start this, my show to, to meet people like you, all three of you. And yeah, it's, it's kind of two prong. So there's the positivity where I just kind of spoke of, but there's also the, when you kind of see what's going on behind the veil and how it affects you, how it affects your, your, your income, your, your ability to live your life and do what you want to do and how you want to do it within reason you know for someone like me it gets it gets me upset because i i do i do deal with a little bit of anxiety and depression so sometimes i can get a little worked up like oh fuck this you know sorry i didn't mean to swear you're good brother have you heard me throughout the show you're fine oh maybe i just because swears just it swears me nothing to me so you know i get upset but then on the positive side it's great to meet people like, you guys, we can have better conversations, learn more.

55:05 And I think that to me, that brings a lot of comfort. Tony was talking about, you know, these people that devote their lives to truth. I mean, I think that's a huge thing. And you can't see my supporter bookshelf right now, but I have all of Dawn's books. I have, whenever I have a guest on, if they have a book, I try to buy their book. You know, I try to get them to sign it if possible because there's just a bit of a connection there. And yeah, I really do. I would say almost worship, you know, the work that you guys do and other truth seekers do because it is so important for our history, our present and our future and it's getting a little little deep on you guys but aside from like you know prices and and you know when when trump took office and his in his tariffs and stuff affecting if i want to order something from the states you know it became a big hassle and all of a sudden i'm getting hit with all these charges but on the you know on the deeper level i think that's also somewhere where people get really hit and i think that's why people say it's a you know of spiritual warfare.

56:11 There's a lot of that going on, Jordan, man. Listen, we're going to go around the horn and say goodbye to the people. I'll do shout-outs. You guys got to take off. Tony, tell the people where they can find you. Yeah, just go to tony.gold, my website, and you can find my podcast there. And I just released the David Icke interview. And you can also go to my YouTube channel, at Tony Arterburn, subscribe there. What else? What am I missing, Billy? I don't know. Tony Arterburn. Miracomplug.com. Give us a five-star review. You can say that I'm delusional, and I'll read it on air as long as it's five-star. You'll probably say I'm—not a lot of people say Tony's delusional. I'm getting more people saying that I was right, which is dope.

56:52 I want more of that, just like I want more TDS. I want more people coming around saying, you know, Billy, you're not totally off. But if anybody's going to be called delusional here, let's be real. It's going to be me. I think you should be James Carville for Halloween. I want to see that. Bronx, New York, the raging Cajun. Hell freaking yeah. Let's do it. Let's go. Don Jeffries, the legendary. What's going on? Tell the people where they can find you. First of all, R.B. Hamm, my friend from Canada, he reminds me I'm going to be on this show tomorrow night, a special Sunday night edition, 8 p.m. On Beyond the Pale, the Rumble channel over there, his Rumble channel. So check that out. It's always fun being with the courageous trucker convoy guy, leader from Canada. I'm being shadow banned everywhere. They're ratcheting it up.

57:34 Facebook is doing all kinds of crazy stuff where they let me post, but they won't let me reply. They keep throwing new things. I think they're messing with my numbers on my podcast. I really do. Because all this stuff is happening one time. I'm getting crazy spam stuff that I didn't get before. And, of course, my X account is lost. I don't know if I've ever been able to get it because Elon Musk, for instance, all the AI team is no help whatsoever, so I can't get it back. So Substack's the only place left until they come for me there. Please subscribe to me if you haven't already. Like and subscribe and restack my posts, donaldjeffries.substack.com. It's iProtest, just like my podcast. That's the best way you can help me. Of course, other than my 10 books are going to get there. So, again, I support that as well.

58:18 If you guys got to run, Jordan, you can hang out for a couple of minutes. Well, I'm going to shout out the chat. But I know Tony and Bob have got to run. Thanks, guys. Thanks so much, everybody. Take care. We'll see you guys. Good to see you, Don. Be good. Take care. Thank you. Tony, you out? Yeah, I've got to run, brother. Go do your thing. I'll hit you up later. Thank you for everything. Go check out the David Icke interview. And there's more to come. Tony did a bunch of stuff, so he's going to drop more stuff. Thanks, guys. Appreciate you. I'm going to shout out the chat, and I'm getting out of here, too. And then I'll give Jordan a chance to tell the people where they can find him as well. Comment of the day right here by No Limits. Says, Billy, don't you remember when Elizabeth spoke out on her?

58:59 I mean, yeah, that's what he said. Spoke out on her own? After Macho Man was being mean to her, this seems like what Melania did. And I think, I mean, I couldn't have put it any better myself. I remember what Macho Man Randy Savage used to do to the lovely, lovely Elizabeth. And, you know, she went out on her own for a second there. And that's what Melania did. Melania is like, you know what? This guy is clearly done. So I'm going to come out and try to exonerate myself. I think she did more harm to herself than anything else. Nobody likes her. She's the least liked first lady in the history of this country. And now Donald Trump is the guy with the lowest approval rating in the history of the presidency.

59:41 You know, believe those numbers, if you will. I do. I personally believe them, of course, because, you know, I'm not a fan. And I see more and more people turning like, you know, when Alex Jones is turning against you, there's a problem. So so there there is that. But but comment of of the day there. No limits. How are you? and Kenny Powers also says that my background paint sucks I know it does this is my wife did this years ago and I you know you just gotta say okay sometimes even if it's awful you know I'm just like fine whatever the rest of the house doesn't look like this I promise you but this yeah this is bad eventually I'll. I'll do something and paint it. But that's the second comment. What's up, my guy? Kenny Powers. Who else is here?

1:00:23 Let me shout you guys out. James in the chat. What's up, buddy? How you doing? What's going on? Jackson T. Barrett. I hope you are trolling us. I mean, me telling you that you're trolling us is giving you the benefit of the doubt because if you actually believe these things, that there's something wrong. And I don't believe there's something wrong because there's so far out. I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, Jackson. So if you're trolling us, genius. Just like Twisty. I'm starting to believe that he believes some of this stuff sometimes. But Twisted loves to troll. What's up, Twisted? How are you in the chat? RB Ham is in the chat. And he wants you guys to go check him out with Don Sunday night. Special episode. White Wolf. What's going on, White Wolf? Who else do we have here? Damn it, who is it? John Lawler. What's going on, John? How you doing? I hope you're still listening.

1:01:09 NMQA. Is that Dustin? That's Dustin. I'm not sure. If it is Dustin, what's up, buddy? How are you? If it's not, Dustin, N-M-Q-H-M, I know I've seen you before. What's up? How are you? And I'm going over to rumble and saying what's up to the people. Peter Seacosh, what's going on? My guy always doing incredible stuff and always throwing stuff at me. Whenever he sees it, I appreciate it. And he is in the chat. B.J. Chang, Trump is still better than Kamala. You got to be kidding me, brother, if you still think that. Is Kamala Harris in the Epstein files? Yes. Is she in the Epstein files? And, and I'm going to use a little bit of Trump rationale here, right? Because what they were saying about Joe Biden is if stuff was so bad with Donald Trump, Joe Biden would have weaponized it and used it, right? And he didn't.

1:01:58 But they were using that as cover until all of this stuff came out and you saw how bad it is. And there's still another 3 million pages that haven't been released. And they've already come out and said that they're not going to release them. Let's see. But if they had something, and if they do, please release it. I'd love to see Kamala Harris if she was in the Epstein files in any way. I'd love to see the context of it. I'd love to see what was going on. But to say that it's still better than Kamala Harris is highly delusional thinking. I know how much you guys hate the left. And there are legitimate reasons to hate the left. But let's be real here, okay? He's destroyed America on the world stage. We've been closer to World War III than we ever have been before.

1:02:41 And if you say that Kamala Harris or Joe Biden would have done this, would have put us in Iran, we had four years of what they did. OK, they continue to fund Israel like every administration does. And that's bad. That's not good. But would they have gotten us into war with Iran? They had four years. They didn't do it. Would they have gone over to Venezuela? They had four years. They didn't do it. So the evidence just doesn't back this up. Trump is the worst thing that could have ever happened to this country. He's a pedophile Allegedly Looks like You know He's convicted A sexual abuser. Right? Adjudicated sexual abuser. He is a grifter. He is a liar.

1:03:24 He hasn't paid contract. He's done the worst things possible. And people still think for some reason that Trump would have been better than Kamala Harris. I highly disagree. And if you still, I mean, more and more people have realized that at this point. They're like, you know what? There's so many maggots that have come out that are like, they're like, I was stupid to do this. And I understand how you feel because I feel the same way about my affiliation not affiliation but my my fandom of alex jones for for how long i was like how stupid was i to buy into this so i get it you know i i understand guys. Don't get me started we'll be here for another two hours bro, yeah and i'm gonna give you some time before we get out of here i just want to finish uh shouting out.

1:04:12 Let me see. It's a lot of repeat offenders on these chats here on X and on YouTube. What's up to all of you? We're 104 strong across platforms, not including Rumble. We are at 48 on Rumble right now. Nature Boy is in the chat. What's up, Nature Boy? How you doing? Good to see you. Harps is in the chat. What's going on? Misfit is in the chat. What's going on? Karen Peterson. I've never seen Karen Peterson before. What is good? How are you? Jason Barker, what's going on, my dude? Hope you're doing well. Johnny, little Johnny boy. What's up, little Johnny? What are you doing? Bart, Bart Duper. What's going on? He's in the chat. What's going on? Hope you're doing well. Let me see what else is up here.

1:04:54 I'm going to keep going. And more repeat offenders. Do not obey. How are you? What is going on? Thank you for tuning in. Oxy Rotten, what's going on? Thank you for tuning in. Thank you for listening. Everybody over on the podcast side of things, thank you for leaving your reviews. Thank you for tuning in week after week after week. Jordan, tell these people where they can find you, sir. Yeah man well first i just want to say i really enjoyed myself and thank you so much for having me hopefully we can do it again for those who want to check out my podcast that is the divulgence podcast you can get us on youtube rumble and then audio wise you can get a spotify apple wherever you get your podcasts you can also hit us up at divulgence pod on x or send us a gmail yeah if you have any recommendations, tips, whatever you want to share.

1:05:44 So yeah, I hope we can do this again. And I would love to have you back on the show very soon, Billy. No, absolutely, brother. Thank you for coming on. Yeah, you're welcome whenever you want. Guard Goldsmith is also in the chat. What is going on? Make sure you tune into Guard. Guard is doing exceptional work over there you know i think guard is honest as honest as can be even to you know the detriment of some of the not detriment but but it doesn't some of the people that listen may not resonate with the message sometimes that's how freaking honest guard is about this but he's spot fucking on on a lot of things i i love what guard is doing so tune into guard goldsmith and guard let's talk about getting you back on gorilla when i get when i get cracking again you know and uh and um.

1:06:30 We can do that. What was it? There was a couple of other things I want to address. WrestleMania is today. Hold on for a second. What do you think about Jake Paul being in WrestleMania? What are your thoughts on that? I mean, Jake Paul is a very talented, talented professional wrestler. He's a natural. He's a natural. He cuts incredible promos. He has incredible character work. And his in-ring ability is next level, bro. He's better than 95% of the roster, and he's only been doing it for a fraction of a while. He is fantastic. That being said, I hate him as a person. So I really don't. Okay, all right, all right, cool.

1:07:10 I'm not a fan of him per se. At least he does something well. I can't deny his ability, you understand? That would be me hating. People accuse me. Good for you. Good for you. Good for you. That's good. I'm not hating on the guy. i just i don't like him but he's a next level professional wrestler so, That part about, he's just amazing. So that's good. I'm going to be watching some of it. BRV, I may not agree with all you say, but I like you. Mr. NMQ8, whatever the hell that is, says, I'm glad you like me, buddy. Eventually, you will agree with everything I have to say. Okay, that's the prophecy here.

1:07:51 And I'll be long forgotten at that point, but everybody will agree with everything I have to say. I'm putting it out there. I'm putting it out in the ether. It's probably not going to happen. But I'm putting it out there anyway, you know. Anybody that I missed in the chat, my apologies. I love you guys. Thank you for being here. Oh, and Kenny, yeah, man, Obafemi should win. If it's Obafemi versus Brock Lesnar today, is it today or tomorrow? I don't know which one, but it's a free match. Anybody that's interested, Obafemi should win. I hope he does. Anyway, that should be the way to go. Jordan, we're going to get on your pod and we'll do that. Jordan had invited me on and, you know, me, Mr. Scatterbrains, I forgot. So we're going to do that, you know, but it was great having you on.

1:08:34 It was great talking to you about things. Very excited to see all of this fall apart. I'm very happy. I mean, I don't think anybody would doubt how happy I am to see this fall apart. And I'm very happy that people are realizing what this is. I am skeptical about the reasons that all these pundits have turned at the same time. I don't know why they've done this. And I know they're all liars. I know they're hypocrites. Look, Tucker Carlson is a liar and a hypocrite nine times out of ten. You know, Alex Jones is just a piece of crap on the next level. And anybody that's familiar with David Knight, you know the level of piece of crap that Alex Jones is.

1:09:15 So I'm suspicious, but I'm happy to see it all freaking fall apart. So I want to see more of it, more ridiculousness on the part of Donald Trump. Let's impeach and remove our 25th Amendment. I don't care how you get him out of there. Let's get him the hell out of there ASAP. And then let's do away with this stupid nonsense. And hopefully, we'll never be back to what we were. The genie's out of the bottle. America will never be what it used to be, ever. We were on our way down anyway, and now it's like, it's just, it's never going to be that. Donald Trump has changed this country to a level beyond repair. We can try, we'll repair some things, but ultimately, we're never going to be, it's the decline, the sun is setting on the American empire.

1:10:02 It is what it is, but let's just get rid of it. I don't want to have anything to do with it. Victor Orban is gone, ladies and gentlemen. There is hope, right? There's hope because that dude was the dictator, the blueprint for what Donald Trump was doing here. And the people over there said, enough, fuck out of here. To the point that he acknowledged that he lost, which was surprising to me. Same thing will happen here. Thoughts on that, Jordan? And we're getting out of here. No, man, I hear you. I, I think that I try to look on the good side of things. So I think that, I think that the people in your country have heart and soul like you, man, I know you have heart, you have soul. I can hear it in your voice.

1:10:43 I can hear it when we, when we talk, I know you're passionate. So I think that the good people will once awaken, once enough people are awakened, I think things will, the tide will turn in the proper direction. And I think we can get rid of, you know, this retribution and punishment and just, okay, what do we need to do for the people? Right. And let's work towards a better future. So I think that that's the penny I'll be putting in my hat. Fantastic, brother. Thank you for that, for those closing words. That was dope, man. And it's some optimism there. Sometimes we need that, you know, especially me.

1:11:23 Even though I'm optimistic. I'm here for you, brother. What's up, buddy? I'm here for you, brother. Don't worry. Thank you, bro. Appreciate it. Ryan in the chat. Also, I didn't say what's up to you. At least I don't think so. If I did, I forgot. So let me say what's up to Ryan over at Rumble. I see. All right. We're getting out of here. Everybody have a good weekend. Tune in to MAGA WrestleMania, you know, if you want. I'm not, I draw the line at UFC. My son still likes the WWE. So I watch that with him. Otherwise, I probably wouldn't watch anymore either. But tune in. It might be a fun show. Plus, I'm going to have fun talking to Kenny about it at some point. So that's dope. You and me, we need to catch up. So stay in touch. We'll figure something out, Jay.

1:12:04 And everybody here, God bless you. Thank you. Maybe we'll get Gorilla Underground this weekend. If you show up, great. If you don't, catch it later, you know, and let's see what develops. All right, let's get up out of here. Burn the place down. Well, actually, it's already burning. It's already burning. So you can, like, add coal to it or you can just walk away and see it burn, like, dramatically, like we do in Hollywood. You know, when there's the dramatic music and the person is walking away, exactly, and everything is going up in flames behind them. But you're good because you're a badass. That's what we're doing. We're walking away from this nonsense right here on America Unplugged. God bless you. Be good. Hang out, Jordan. Bye-bye.

1:12:45 Boom. We're still on the air.