#222 America Unplugged: The Collapse of MAGA — Live Breakdown

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Donald Jeffries, author of Hidden History and Survival of the Richest,

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host of The Donald Jeffries Show, Billy Ray Valentine, host of the Infinite Fringe podcast,

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researcher, truth seeker from the Bronx, New York, Tony Arterburn,

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radio host, combat veteran, precious metals analyst, and alt historian.

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Together, they take on the headlines of the week, decode the disinformation,

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and plow through the mainstream propaganda, unauthorized, unscripted.

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Unintimidated. This is America Unplugged. What's going on, everybody?

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The War on Reality Report.

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Hope everybody's doing well. My name is Billy Ray Valentine.

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Greetings from the Bronx, New York City, and I'm here with the usual suspects.

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And we have a very special guest this week here with us, Tony Arterburn,

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the wisest of all the wolves. What's up, Tony? How you doing?

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Oh, it's great to be back. And I hope everybody doesn't mind.

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I created an AI-generated meme of Don healing all of us with his wisdom.

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I hope that it's not inferred that he is Jesus.

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We didn't make it. But it is like the heavens are opening up,

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but he's clearly a doctor.

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Yes. That's what I was about to say. I mean, it shouldn't be misconstrued in any way.

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Just because he's wearing it. This is what doctors wear.

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Clearly, they've been wearing it. I have pictures of when I was being delivered

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back in the day, and the doctors look just like that. I don't know what the big deal is.

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All doctors wear that stuff all the time. Now, go ahead, Tony,

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finish up. What else you got?

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Well, that's pretty much it. I'm hoping that I don't offend anybody with that.

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Oh, no, no, let's not, you know, it's healing, you know, it's a good thing,

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you know, and it's doctors, we are pro-doctors here on America Unplugged.

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The legendary Don Jeffries is here always wearing like drip severe,

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look at the dude, look at that shirt.

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Tell the people what's going on. What's up, sir?

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We're seeing a relaxed, casual mood like I am 99% of the time.

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Does my shirt usually go? So, yeah, and I certainly hope the AI version of me

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is more helpful than the Elon Musk AI support team, all support team on X,

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which has been, I'll never get the X account back, I guess, because they won't.

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I hope there's some AI that's more intelligent than his AI, but it must be like

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a bargain basement 7-Eleven Walmart stuff for something he's using because they don't do anything.

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They don't respond at all. So anyhow, hopefully I make a better AI than that. No, I'm sure. I'm sure.

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100%. And you look like a doctor all the time. When I think of Don, I think of doctor.

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And we have a very special guest with us today. Jordan is here.

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What's going on? And look at this guy. Incredibly fashionable.

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This is the fashion edition. of America Unplugged right now.

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I mean, I'm just wearing a white tee, but you know,

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Everything I wear looks good, right?

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What's up, Jordan? How you doing? Say what's up to the people,

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brother. What's going on, guys?

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So good to be here. Don, Billy, nice to see you. And Tony, it's a pleasure to

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meet you, man. It's a pleasure, brother. Tell them about your podcast real quick, man.

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Yeah. So I run the Divulgence podcast. Don and Jeffrey, sorry,

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Don and Billy were actually a couple of my first guests on the show.

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I've been doing that. I did it for a couple months. I had to take a long break,

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but I've been back at it now.

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For a better part of the year. And yeah, we talk about a lot of truth,

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news items. We get into conspiracies.

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I mean, all the stuff that I'm sure you guys talk about.

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Yeah, and you can get us on YouTube and Rubble.

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Fantastic, brother. We'll speak more about that towards the end of the show.

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Anyway, more shit has hit the fan.

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The Strait of Hormuz was open, if you believe the White House.

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And then it closed again.

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So as of right now, it is closed again. Iran is now probably a world power.

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You know, the way this has been shaking out, courtesy of the Trump regime.

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Thank you very much, Mr. Trump. And of course, again, I am continuing my celebration

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leading up to either the impeachment of Donald Trump and removal, the 25th Amendment,

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or the eventual goodbye, sayonara,

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even though God bless you, sir, you know, into the other realm. But you know what?

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I'd be lying to you if I said that, you know, that wouldn't.

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We need something to happen. And I am celebrating my entire time right now that

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the demise of MAGUS, it is falling apart every day, more and more.

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And I am loving it. I am here for it. I am being 100% transparent.

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Well, I've always been 100% transparent. This is what I wanted.

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I'm going to tap dance down Fifth Avenue in front of Trump Tower.

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All right. When one of these things come to pass, and I'm sure I won't be the

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only one and we will film it here on America Unplugged, but let me tell you something.

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What was the biggest? Oh, yeah. He's fighting with the Pope.

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Now he's fighting with the Pope. He's fighting with Alex Jones.

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And there's a lot of things. And I was going to go live last week on Gorilla

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Underground and I wasn't able to do it.

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And to be honest, I am not sure I'll be able to do it this week.

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So if you get a notification and you tune in and I'm there, then great.

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But yeah, Alex Jones going back and forth with this guy is hilarious to me,

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listening to what Alex Jones is saying.

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And we'll play some stuff here today and discuss it with Alex and Trump.

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But yeah, now he's picking a fight with the Catholics. He's just picking a fight

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with everybody at this point. Tony Arterburn, what do you think of this?

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What's his face? Pete Hegseth, our favorite Secretary of War,

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is talking about that, what was that, J.D. Vance?

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Oh, no. Pete Hegseth was doing the Pulp Fiction prayer.

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I don't know if he did it for real or not. I don't know. There's that.

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And I think J.D. Vance... He's also reporting to Samuel L. Jackson, yeah.

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And J.D. Vance was lecturing the Pope on what to say, which is amazing to me.

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So that's the two things that went on there. What's up, Tony?

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What do you think of the situation?

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Well, I don't like Pete Hexeth, but I think in his defense, he was reading something

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by the, I think it's the Cav Scouts or something.

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Like it was one, you know, a specific branch of the army or something that they were using that.

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They redid the prayer of Pulp Fiction's interpretation of Ezekiel 25,

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17, which when I was a kid, I went and looked in the Bible. I wanted to see if it said that.

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And, of course, it doesn't. I mean, it's not word for word.

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A lot of it's ad-libbed, and it's part of the mythos of Pulp Fiction.

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So, in his defense, I think he was just citing that, like it was a made-up thing

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by a part of the aviation wing of the army.

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At least that's the way I understood it. But, no, doesn't Pete Hegseth and J.D.

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Vance, I think they might be the same person, or maybe the trifecta between them and Erica Kirk.

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Maybe they're all just, like, interacting on the same level, like, spiritually.

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I'm not quite sure. When they come together, they make up Baphomet. That's right.

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You can place a child in their lap, like one of those. Yeah, you can be Moloch.

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But, you know, it's interesting And not that this is a great comparison Because

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if you know And if you read something like American Memory Hole By the great

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Don Jeffries Or Hidden History You'll realize that,

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Joe McCarthy was right about a lot of things and demonized through history,

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but one of the things that happened,

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at least in the mythos of that, was just the army representative that showed

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up in one of the hearings,

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and I think his name was Welch, and he said, you know

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at long last have you no decency sir you know

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at long last you know have you no decency and

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that moment was like this this watershed event for mccarthyism and it collapsed

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on itself right or wrong by the way because if you know what we know about you

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know the the history of mccarthy and what he was trying to expose it's not as

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convenient as the popular culture but that That moment,

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whatever that you what what you witnessed then at that time in the 50s is happening

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now to the Trump presidency.

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It's jumped the shark and it's it did that a long time ago.

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But it's it's now settling into the psychology and the diehards. And you can tell.

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Do you know how you can tell the political landscape is shifting.

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Billy, is that the money, you know, power is where power goes and the money

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is flowing out in other directions.

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The future is not with MAGA or what Trump had built.

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It's not with who is riding his coattails right now. It's not there.

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It is going somewhere else. It's disintegrating,

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you know, and it's decompartmentalizing, if that makes sense.

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So whatever that movement was is morphing into something else.

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It's going into hibernation.

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It's finding other avenues.

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But the power axis and everything that he had is falling apart.

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And you're watching the psychological deconstruction of a malignant narcissist happen,

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which is a very dangerous territory for all of us as somebody who's commander

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in chief and acting clearly on behalf of a foreign nation,

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not the American people. This isn't our foreign policy.

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So it's, you know, when even Alex Jones jumps off, and this is,

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again, if you know anything about radio or if you know anything about,

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and I was a fill-in host for Infowars for, you know, a few years.

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If you know anything about how much structure that has and what the audience

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demands, like, that's a big departure. So that also means that Alex Jones' audience.

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Is no longer interested in Trump, right? So this is a big moment,

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I think, for the future of politics in America, whatever that means anymore.

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But you're talking about the midterms.

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This war, and I'm looking at antiwar.com right now, and most of the insiders

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believe that this is going to drag on.

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The war with Iran, the peace talks, all of that is going to drag on for at least six more months.

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Meanwhile, you've got oil spiking, supply chains being destroyed,

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and the economy is going to be in the severe doldrums because of lack of certainty

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and high prices and inflation.

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So that seems like a foregone conclusion at this point that the Democrats sweep

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both the House and the Senate, in my opinion. And it's probably going to get even worse.

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So lots to unpack there, but this is perhaps the beginning of the end.

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It's definitely the house right definitely the house the senate is a little

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more more iffy but they can go ahead and take that too white wolf was talking

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about what's up white wolf how are you,

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about uh what will step into the vacuum once maga completely falls apart but

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tony just spelled it out for you that's what's gonna happen and i think we'll

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be in a better position to fight back you know and and and that's why i want

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maga out you know even though right now the way it's looking

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MAGA has fallen apart to a point that we can fight back on MAGA, which is good.

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But I mean, there's still the cult members that still exist,

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but that's always been a small percentage of this, you know, in, in 2016, in spite of.

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No, in 2016, even with Cambridge Analytica taking place in the 2016 election,

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Trump still lost the popular vote.

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You know, in 2024, he won the popular vote.

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So it's a different deal, you know, coming into it.

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But it was a coalition that put this guy up.

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It wasn't just a mega cult. The cult is a very small percentage of of America,

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you know, that are full on cult members and that follow Trump.

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Regardless, I think we'll be in a better position to fight back for our interest.

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And when I mean our interest, I mean the people, us.

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Right. And what what serves us best.

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So hopefully, you know, once the Democrats gets in, MAGA is going to hate him.

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You know, all the Republicans are going to hate him.

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And and the Democrats are already they the only reason they're voting for him

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is because they hate Trump so much. Right. They don't like a lot of these people either.

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So we're going to be in good in good standing, I think, to be able to put I

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hope this is a hope of mine to be able to push back. Don Jeffries,

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what's going on? What are you thinking?

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Well, first of all, Jackson T. Barrett, I guess he's one of the remaining faithful.

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It looks like he still has some faith in Trump.

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He's saying that basically Trump is playing 8 million degree chess again,

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where he's inadvertently exposing BBNet and exposing the greater original project.

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And he also says Elon promises universal high income instead of the UBI.

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I am not going to say anything good about Elon Musk until my ex account is restored.

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So until then, I'm saying nothing good about him.

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It's stupid AI support of him. But I would love to see a universal high-income.

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We've never seen a high-income in this country. We've always had where most

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people lose at the casino economy.

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But who knows what's going on with this.

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I said I think Billy Ray will probably be pleased. I mean, yeah,

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I don't make predictions, but I'd facetiously said a while back that it may

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end with Trump being taken from the White House in a street jacket, kicking and screaming.

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And I think that may happen. That's the way it's looking.

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Because he can't you know attacking the

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pope i mean what's going to be his next thing i don't i think he's going to

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go after melania because melania made that you know statement that didn't fit

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with the program so we'll see if he hasn't done it yet maybe he'll do that i

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don't know maybe he'll attack his kids i don't know what he could possibly do

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next but he is nobody's saying,

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yeah harps doesn't like your flat earth net but not after the success of artemis

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he says you know it doesn't well after that wonderful successful show you read

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my latest sub stack i have some thoughts on that so.

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But here it is with Jackson. I was looking for it. Yeah, yeah.

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I don't even know if Jackson is trolling at this point to say something like this.

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And that's 8 million degrees, yes. But, I mean, that's Q.

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That's Q right there. Because that's basically, because that's the entire point

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of the Q PSYOP is to somehow say that, yeah, Trump certainly appears to be doing

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everything opposite to what he said and countered,

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but it's all part of the plan. that he's doing it on purpose.

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And that's what he's doing now. Apparently, it looks like he's kowtowing to

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Israel and holding a baby net in his chair and listening to everything he says,

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but really he's exposing him.

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And of course, they have one thing in their favor that the entire world does

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seem to be trying against Israel.

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I mean, it's an 8 million degree chance, but I mean, you've got the president

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of Spain and the president of Italy both and saying, hey, look,

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Israel's the world's problem.

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So I think that's still the big issue is that it's going to eventually – it

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says Trump's playing four-dimension chess.

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That's pretty much it. But at this point, it's just USA.

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I mean, does Israel have any other supporters? I don't think so.

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Everybody's turning against them, and I like the fact that people are saying

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they're a world problem. They are.

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And they're a world problem because we're financing them. They wouldn't be a

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world problem if we didn't give them the money.

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They'd be just a trust fund baby and homeless on the street somewhere.

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But because we keep giving them money and keep giving them munitions.

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They keep causing trouble. I mean, what Peter was saying, I guess the latest,

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every time we have some kind of a ceasefire or something, Israel goes and bonds somebody. Uh-huh.

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And they did it again. Immediately. So it's like, yeah, immediately.

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They're like, it's just, but I do like the fact that, I don't think it's because

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Trump's been playing 8 million-degree chess, but I don't know.

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More of you look at it, Israel is being exposed, Zionist is being exposed,

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then that's a good thing.

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So let's hope this new coalition can form with people on the left and the right

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that retired designers are controlling things. You know what?

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I think I've realized something. It's one of my many awakenings throughout my

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process here in the alt media.

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I think Jackson T. Barrett is trolling us.

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This entire freaking thing. You think so? He might. I think he's just trolling

00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:45.859
people. Yo, Jackson, props to you, brother.

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Yeah, I like the comment. And you know what? I think he's on to something.

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You talk about it. Is it merely chess? you guys are playing checkers you know

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you're midwits I get that and I think I think that Donald Trump has played some chess I think some

00:17:02.059 --> 00:17:07.279
serious maybe eight dimensional chess because you know James Carville came and

00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:11.299
you guys see the article James Carville came out you know he's the one it's

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the economy stupid the lizard guy that put Bill Clinton in office reptilian

00:17:15.179 --> 00:17:18.599
yeah yeah he said just effing do it and you know what

00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:22.059
he's talking about he's talking about the Democrats have a plan for permanent

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rule And I've been saying this for years, coast to coast, California.

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All they got to do is add Puerto Rico, add D.C., add another territory, whatever.

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You get the two senators are always going to be Dems. You can stack the Supreme Court.

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He's that's what he's talking about. He's like, just do it. And the reason that

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they'll have the momentum to be able to do that is because this happened.

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Like the entire, all the coalitions of the Liberty Movement,

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whether it's Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan, the nationalism, the traditionalists,

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they coalesced around Donald Trump because that was the message that no one had ever received.

00:17:55.089 --> 00:18:01.089
Again, taking an organized approach to whether there was obviously things like

00:18:01.089 --> 00:18:04.209
Cambridge Analytica and other things that data mined, but that's what people

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wanted to hear. Somebody finally did it.

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Now you're talking about generations will pass before it'll ever even have the

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ability to even resurface again because it's been such a clown show and there's

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the controlled demolition of the opposition to one party rule.

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So that's what I've been saying for years. I mean, and by the way,

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I'm one of these people that thinks that stack the House with Democrats.

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You know, stack the Senate with, I want impeachment hearings at this point.

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It's so corrupt and we've gone to war for no reason other than to help a foreign

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nation. So I'm on board for that, but it doesn't mean that I don't forget.

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Right, well, exactly, that's good.

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I'm on board for it and I'm coming to you right now, Jordan.

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I'm on board for it to get rid of

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the cancer but then we got to figure something out about

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the chemotherapy here okay we got we got it because

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it's you know like I mean that doesn't mean one party rule

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isn't good either that doesn't mean you hand over

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all of this power that Trump has amassed to

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the next person it doesn't it doesn't mean that at all you know so I'm cool

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with getting rid of this guy we need to get I think anybody that I'll say this

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when you pass to the joint you know this loss of this once in a multi-generational

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chance to reset the power structure that's clearly an op. It's clearly an operation.

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And it was never intentional. It was never for real.

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So now we've got to deal with this. But in the aftermath, there's going to be

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a push for one party rule.

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And demographically, something Don and I have always talked about,

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once it goes, once a state goes blue, whatever you want to call that, it doesn't come back.

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I'm living in one now. Let me get a question here, Dan. Let me get a question.

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Yeah, go ahead, Jordan. Come on, Jordan.

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Jordan, you're muted or something. Oh, no, no. Good.

00:19:59.621 --> 00:20:06.421
Yeah, a lot to unpack. I mean, I think Trump's, I mean, he got in with,

00:20:06.561 --> 00:20:09.521
we were talking about Cambridge, Analytica, and how he got in,

00:20:09.601 --> 00:20:13.181
but he kind of got in with this momentum that he's different,

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he's going to shake things up, he's going to tax the rich, he's going to whatever.

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And I mean over his two between his first and now terms I mean obviously he's just,

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Some people think that he's changed, but I think he's just getting more and

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more erratic and audacious with how he acts and how he makes his policy.

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And now he's losing, you know, mega.

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He's losing huge people that may not claim to be mega, but obviously they're Trump supporters.

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He's getting into a fight with the Pope, and that's going to create a huge wedge

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between him and Christians.

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Which, I mean, doesn't go so well with the Christians who don't necessarily

00:21:01.149 --> 00:21:05.909
support Israel, because obviously there's a lopsided issue with Israel.

00:21:06.569 --> 00:21:11.489
And I feel like obviously there was a point where, and it was probably months

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back now, where, okay, you know, things need to start to change or else,

00:21:15.949 --> 00:21:20.229
you know, 2028 might be gone and the midterms will be gone.

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And now we're at a point where, I mean, it seems likely that the midterms are

00:21:25.029 --> 00:21:29.429
are are not going to go well for the Republicans overall, I'd say.

00:21:30.309 --> 00:21:38.429
And I think I think once the Democrats get more power and if if they do take 2028,

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I think it's just going to be this this pendulum where, you know,

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it goes one way and then the retribution tour starts and then it swings way,

00:21:46.749 --> 00:21:48.449
way too far back in the other direction.

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And with the envelopes Trump keeps pushing, I think it's just setting up a very,

00:21:53.769 --> 00:21:59.849
very volatile future politically and socially and how we interact with other

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countries. Obviously, all these freaking wars are going on.

00:22:03.529 --> 00:22:07.609
And if it does get to the point where it is getting back to what Tony was saying

00:22:07.609 --> 00:22:11.829
about a one party rule and if and if it can't go back like that.

00:22:12.320 --> 00:22:15.740
I don't know what the future of the country will hold, but it sounds like more

00:22:15.740 --> 00:22:20.820
and more of a, it could get more into like a cult-like feeling because I feel

00:22:20.820 --> 00:22:24.740
like cult and politics have gone very close together over the past 10 years.

00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:26.960
Agreed. Agreed, brother. Hold on for a second.

00:22:27.420 --> 00:22:32.480
Yeah, totally agreed. If there is a one party rule, it's on us.

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We got to remember that. This is on us, right? So it's on us to spread awareness.

00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:42.140
It's on us to make better choices. it's on

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us to realize what the game that we're playing

00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:48.460
right if if we are actively engaged

00:22:48.460 --> 00:22:51.320
in a game of monopoly but we're playing connect

00:22:51.320 --> 00:22:55.620
four instead it's not going to freaking work right and you may not agree with

00:22:55.620 --> 00:23:00.900
whatever the game is you may be like oh i don't want to sitting out isn't going

00:23:00.900 --> 00:23:06.200
to do us any favors it's just not it hasn't we've been bitching about this here

00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:09.600
in the media for years now. What has changed?

00:23:10.320 --> 00:23:14.680
Absolutely nothing. It's only gotten worse. It's only gotten worse.

00:23:14.860 --> 00:23:19.460
And then we got co-opted at that, you know, to lead us to where we are now.

00:23:19.700 --> 00:23:21.480
So we need to figure it out.

00:23:21.940 --> 00:23:26.100
There's probably some truth to what Tony was saying. Right. And that's the same

00:23:26.100 --> 00:23:28.980
on the other side. They're actively trying to pull it off or MAGA.

00:23:29.220 --> 00:23:35.060
The Republican Party doesn't exist anymore. And I would I would and I've promoted this several times.

00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:39.460
I would say that anybody that considers themselves a Republican separate themselves

00:23:39.460 --> 00:23:41.280
from MAGA. It is different.

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Because otherwise, it's over.

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If you keep like interchanging these terms, as simple as it sounds,

00:23:49.610 --> 00:23:55.890
you keep associating Republicans and conservatism, true conservatism with MAGA, you're done.

00:23:56.370 --> 00:24:00.010
It's over. It took all of these years, but it's done.

00:24:00.550 --> 00:24:06.170
So if there's, like Tony said, I think it's a foregone conclusion in 2026,

00:24:06.410 --> 00:24:10.770
unless some extreme action is taken on behalf of the Trump regime.

00:24:11.010 --> 00:24:14.050
And by extreme, I mean extreme, right? They're going to have to take over these

00:24:14.050 --> 00:24:18.370
elections, and it's going to be evident that they're doing that. Same in 2028.

00:24:18.690 --> 00:24:21.670
And I wouldn't put it past them for trying, but I think they're too incompetent

00:24:21.670 --> 00:24:25.250
to pull it off. You're going to get a Democrat in 2028, most likely.

00:24:26.190 --> 00:24:31.050
And let's see if everybody yells fraud and all this nonsense as a result. I don't know.

00:24:32.030 --> 00:24:34.930
Does anybody have something to say? Otherwise, I want to play some Alex Jones.

00:24:36.250 --> 00:24:41.490
Tony, what time? Let's play some Alex Jones. Give me a little bit of...

00:24:42.310 --> 00:24:45.530
Say one more thing. What a freaking doof, bro.

00:24:45.970 --> 00:24:48.850
Yo, I'm glad you brought that up. You know he's going to say something.

00:24:49.030 --> 00:24:50.910
You know he's going to say something, so why?

00:24:51.690 --> 00:24:53.350
I don't know if anybody...

00:24:54.370 --> 00:24:57.570
Has anybody on the panel ever seen Friday? The movie? Oh, yeah.

00:24:58.718 --> 00:25:01.518
When uh the ice cube one yeah yeah yeah

00:25:01.518 --> 00:25:04.438
yeah okay yeah yeah yeah when when the guy walks

00:25:04.438 --> 00:25:07.478
into the record store and and and he pulls out a gun on

00:25:07.478 --> 00:25:10.418
ice cube and he keeps asking him questions and he's

00:25:10.418 --> 00:25:13.998
like don't say a damn thing and then the guy starts he asks him questions what's

00:25:13.998 --> 00:25:20.218
your name and he starts talking say one more thing say one more thing i'm like

00:25:20.218 --> 00:25:24.698
what are you doing dude like if you say and then yeah i'm gonna put i'm gonna

00:25:24.698 --> 00:25:28.978
play alex we'll we'll talk about alex but the hypocrisy of this, man.

00:25:29.138 --> 00:25:33.238
And I was having a conversation with Ashley from Nights of the Storm and I was

00:25:33.238 --> 00:25:41.238
telling her how embarrassed I am and how regretful I am, you know,

00:25:41.338 --> 00:25:46.678
that I listened to that piece of shit for 10 years, brother.

00:25:47.298 --> 00:25:52.218
Without missing one freaking episode. I listened to him for 15 years.

00:25:52.358 --> 00:25:56.498
After 10 years, I started saying, all right, something's up,

00:25:56.498 --> 00:26:00.598
but I still listened, you know, and then now I don't, I rarely listen.

00:26:00.718 --> 00:26:04.338
I listen to clips. I should be listening just to freaking dissect his punk ass,

00:26:04.418 --> 00:26:08.038
but it's, it's, it's, uh, I am ashamed of that.

00:26:08.418 --> 00:26:14.438
It's, it's, I'm, I'm ashamed and embarrassed that I was so vulnerable that I

00:26:14.438 --> 00:26:17.258
subscribed to that nonsense for so long, you know?

00:26:17.338 --> 00:26:23.618
So, and you see him now talking about freaking, Oh, say one more thing and I'll expose you.

00:26:23.738 --> 00:26:28.078
So what does that say about Alex Jones? If you knew all along,

00:26:28.178 --> 00:26:31.678
if you had that one thing, at least one thing in your back pocket,

00:26:31.998 --> 00:26:38.098
you were not showing the people for all of these years. For what exactly?

00:26:38.838 --> 00:26:43.318
For what? So you're protecting Donald Trump. And in a sense,

00:26:43.418 --> 00:26:46.598
if you're protecting Donald Trump and you know that he's involved with Epstein,

00:26:46.718 --> 00:26:47.958
then you're protecting pedophiles.

00:26:48.278 --> 00:26:49.858
So it goes further and further.

00:26:50.814 --> 00:26:53.814
But he's saying it and everybody's like, oh, he's against Donald Trump now because

00:26:53.814 --> 00:26:57.254
it's cool to be against Donald Trump all of a sudden, right?

00:26:57.454 --> 00:27:02.894
And all of the right wing pundits that were instrumental in getting his punk

00:27:02.894 --> 00:27:06.354
ass where he is right now are now pulling back.

00:27:06.394 --> 00:27:12.894
And they're all doing it collectively at the same time. And that's suspicious as shit to me.

00:27:13.514 --> 00:27:17.894
It's so because why now? All of you, why now?

00:27:18.034 --> 00:27:21.794
What was so different? He depicted himself as Moses not too long ago.

00:27:21.934 --> 00:27:23.434
You guys didn't have a problem with that.

00:27:24.214 --> 00:27:27.374
He's all over the Epstein files. Some of you had a problem with it.

00:27:28.034 --> 00:27:30.854
But still, you were, well, you know, it's lies.

00:27:31.054 --> 00:27:35.394
It's, you know, this is a deep state, rouge, to try to take down MAGA.

00:27:35.594 --> 00:27:40.314
And even with his opposition, he still says some of this shit.

00:27:40.694 --> 00:27:42.834
All right. All right. Let me pull up the clip, Tone.

00:27:43.494 --> 00:27:46.454
Reactions to that, and then I'm pulling up the clip. Go ahead, sir.

00:27:47.514 --> 00:27:50.254
Yeah, this is, something that goes back to

00:27:50.254 --> 00:27:53.034
2015 for alex jones at

00:27:53.034 --> 00:27:55.734
least and that's you got to remember if you want and

00:27:55.734 --> 00:27:59.094
you watched many many years of infowars and so did i yuck

00:27:59.094 --> 00:28:03.914
and then eventually i you know i was a fill-in host there and billy knows billy

00:28:03.914 --> 00:28:08.234
knows other stories that would not everybody knows it's uh we might have to

00:28:08.234 --> 00:28:12.534
recount that uh someday but you had to fill in tony there i thought tony was

00:28:12.534 --> 00:28:16.454
an on-air personality at infowars for david knight for for several years yeah

00:28:16.454 --> 00:28:18.474
oh i i'm sorry I did not know that.

00:28:19.434 --> 00:28:25.174
So, one of the, the few good things to ever come out of that filth rag of an

00:28:25.174 --> 00:28:27.234
operation was Tony Argerburn. Anyway, go ahead.

00:28:28.174 --> 00:28:34.854
So I think really what happened is, this is my opinion, is that this is about the audience, okay?

00:28:35.134 --> 00:28:38.414
The reason that all the commentators, these people are jumping off the ship

00:28:38.414 --> 00:28:41.514
at the same time is because the audience has finally had enough.

00:28:41.654 --> 00:28:45.374
And that's where the market share comes from.

00:28:46.434 --> 00:28:50.914
InfoWars was completely different in 2015 as it was in 2017.

00:28:50.914 --> 00:28:55.314
And everybody, anybody that tuned in knows that it became an operation to promote,

00:28:55.414 --> 00:29:00.494
you know, the Republican Party and Trump and that, whatever MAGA had become

00:29:00.494 --> 00:29:03.514
and the audience share exploded.

00:29:04.334 --> 00:29:07.194
So there was this audience that you had to contend with.

00:29:07.394 --> 00:29:10.954
Once you've locked that in and you've become accustomed to that's who orders

00:29:10.954 --> 00:29:14.834
your products and that's who, you know, shows up and supports your network and

00:29:14.834 --> 00:29:20.454
everything else, there's, it's like, it's the reason our numbers aren't 100x what they are.

00:29:21.254 --> 00:29:24.554
Okay, it's not about being smart or anything or having good analysis.

00:29:24.874 --> 00:29:28.934
It's about not towing that line because that's what the audience wants to hear.

00:29:30.554 --> 00:29:33.334
So this is where the audience, this is what I've been saying.

00:29:33.534 --> 00:29:36.634
I think the audience has finally done, which is the death knell.

00:29:36.854 --> 00:29:39.934
Yes, I agree with you. Okay, well, I'm going to play this clip.

00:29:39.994 --> 00:29:40.814
Then we're going to go around the horn.

00:29:41.854 --> 00:29:47.354
Here we go. I'm giving you five seconds if you guys are repulsed by this poor excuse for a human,

00:29:48.069 --> 00:29:52.989
Tune out. I won't blame you. Come back. If you're on the podcast and you want

00:29:52.989 --> 00:29:56.429
to fast forward a few minutes, it's a 55 second clip.

00:29:56.589 --> 00:29:58.649
I'm just giving you a heads up. You don't want to listen to this shit in your

00:29:58.649 --> 00:29:59.729
ear holes. I totally get it.

00:30:00.249 --> 00:30:06.309
So just fast forward 55 seconds and I might stop it in between because I can't help myself sometimes.

00:30:06.769 --> 00:30:10.469
So there's that. But I'm giving you fair warning that I'm about to play Alex

00:30:10.469 --> 00:30:16.189
Jones, reptilian extraordinaire, disgusting piece of filth, the hypocrite,

00:30:16.349 --> 00:30:20.509
liar, grifter, you name it. I'm about to play him right now.

00:30:20.709 --> 00:30:26.209
Let's hope the audio works, the audiovisual department here at the PW Hustle. Oops, listen to me.

00:30:27.449 --> 00:30:31.429
Adam Merritt Unplugged isn't exactly the greatest sometimes, so let's go.

00:30:31.669 --> 00:30:34.749
This is a new Trump, and it's so unhinged.

00:30:34.909 --> 00:30:38.789
He's the guy that had all these countless bankruptcies for casinos and hotels,

00:30:39.029 --> 00:30:40.789
and basically these pumping dumps.

00:30:41.169 --> 00:30:45.149
But then he looks at me, that was shut down by a billion and a half dollar

00:30:45.449 --> 00:30:48.229
judgment would try to shut me down it was totally rigged and

00:30:48.229 --> 00:30:51.369
now he's siding with the people that attacked him against myself

00:30:51.369 --> 00:30:54.169
and others so this is the new trump he can't be this stupid

00:30:54.169 --> 00:30:57.189
he's made some deal with the global stuff above it no doubt

00:30:57.189 --> 00:31:00.629
the rothschilds are his biggest bankers that's on record they're the

00:31:00.629 --> 00:31:04.749
funny now he's already running cover he's already running cover all right for

00:31:04.749 --> 00:31:10.729
for one second this story about the rothschilds we we all know though if you're

00:31:10.729 --> 00:31:15.389
paying attention If you've been paying attention to America Unplugged or even

00:31:15.389 --> 00:31:18.289
any of the right-wing pundits,

00:31:18.469 --> 00:31:22.169
well, not any of them, but at least from Sam Tripoli on down,

00:31:22.509 --> 00:31:29.229
you know that Wilbur Ross was involved with the freaking Rothschilds and you

00:31:29.229 --> 00:31:34.289
know the connections of Trump and the Rothschilds. This is nothing freaking new.

00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:38.799
But they were open to letting all of that go looking the other way and lying

00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:41.519
to you about it. Remember that. They lied to you.

00:31:41.739 --> 00:31:44.579
They lied to you, Jack. All of them.

00:31:45.259 --> 00:31:48.399
Candace Owens lied to you. Joe Rogan lied to you.

00:31:48.999 --> 00:31:54.559
Alex Jones lied to you. Go down the list. They lied to you. And they are continuing

00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:56.439
to lie to you. I don't agree.

00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.919
Although I agree with what they're saying right now, I don't agree with their motives. All right.

00:32:01.699 --> 00:32:04.659
Most properties, not the Russians and Rothschilds out of the U.K.,

00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:07.739
And he's sabotaging the midterms. This is a deal.

00:32:07.939 --> 00:32:11.159
He's not this stupid. And watch what happens. He's dumb as fuck.

00:32:12.099 --> 00:32:15.919
He's dumb as fuck. He's dumb as fuck midterms. That is the facts.

00:32:16.219 --> 00:32:18.439
But, you know, he's all saying, I'm fired. Fired from what?

00:32:19.159 --> 00:32:22.219
I'm not needing access to Trump. I don't.

00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:26.559
You can tell he's so pissed. I wanted Trump to be good. I wanted his policy

00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:29.219
to be good and not turn against what he stood for.

00:32:30.239 --> 00:32:34.379
There's way more of this, of course. And I'll play some on Guerrilla Underground.

00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.939
It is WrestleMania weekend. What's up, Kenny Powers? How you doing?

00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:41.579
So I'm not sure if I'll go live or not, or if I'll be able to,

00:32:41.639 --> 00:32:42.579
because there'll be people here.

00:32:42.859 --> 00:32:48.979
But yeah, man, he's, even in his defiance, he's running cover for freaking Donald Trump.

00:32:49.479 --> 00:32:55.499
It's incredible. And there's either a severe lack of self-awareness,

00:32:55.539 --> 00:32:58.259
or they just think you're dumb as stones.

00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:05.060
Maybe both. I don't know. But he's out here telling you, running down a history

00:33:05.060 --> 00:33:10.800
of the reasons why people that were opposed to Donald Trump were opposed to

00:33:10.800 --> 00:33:13.200
Donald Trump. I mean, the whole gamut.

00:33:14.020 --> 00:33:18.460
And he's telling you now, but he didn't tell you all that time before,

00:33:18.660 --> 00:33:20.600
but he knew all this information before.

00:33:21.060 --> 00:33:24.200
But it wasn't a problem before. All of a sudden, it's a problem now.

00:33:24.660 --> 00:33:26.300
All right, Tony, what's up? And then we're going around home.

00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.520
Well like i said i this is a calculated move

00:33:30.520 --> 00:33:33.220
and he's reading the tea leaves along with a lot of

00:33:33.220 --> 00:33:36.440
other commentators and people that are in the space and you

00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:39.560
know right or wrong if if the poll numbers were high if even

00:33:39.560 --> 00:33:44.120
if trump had deviated in my opinion even if he had deviated completely and the

00:33:44.120 --> 00:33:48.660
poll numbers had held i don't think we'd be having this conversation i don't

00:33:48.660 --> 00:33:54.540
think that it's not about what necessarily didn't happen or happened it's about

00:33:54.540 --> 00:33:58.700
the loss of market share This is clearly what this is. And this is my opinion.

00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:04.180
I mean, I don't think, and, you know, there is the personal component of Trump's

00:34:04.180 --> 00:34:06.380
meltdown and his narcissism and everything else.

00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:11.380
He does lash out and do stupid things, like just attacking Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson.

00:34:11.520 --> 00:34:17.720
I mean, stupid move, you know, because you really can't put that genie back in the bottle.

00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:21.500
Like once you've taken that out, I mean, he's completely isolating himself.

00:34:21.620 --> 00:34:22.840
That's what narcissists do.

00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:27.720
But I think just at the end of the day, what drives alternative media,

00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:32.020
what David Icke, by the way, I dropped my David Icke interview last night,

00:34:32.040 --> 00:34:33.400
so it's up on my YouTube channel.

00:34:33.520 --> 00:34:38.000
It's on my podcast channel if you want to hear me talking to David Icke outside

00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:39.400
of London in his offices.

00:34:39.700 --> 00:34:42.120
Can we drop it on the America Unplugged stream?

00:34:42.580 --> 00:34:45.420
Yeah, I need to. I'll add it here in the next day or so.

00:34:47.106 --> 00:34:49.946
But yeah, I think, you know, David Icke calls it, you know, ma'am,

00:34:50.226 --> 00:34:53.086
the mainstream alternative media.

00:34:53.606 --> 00:34:57.646
And I mean, there's a big, there's a lot of logic to that.

00:34:57.906 --> 00:35:03.686
So this is about loss of market share. And the audience is clearly walking away.

00:35:04.386 --> 00:35:08.826
He's had his McCarthy moment. So you think that's why everyone is doing it,

00:35:08.906 --> 00:35:10.826
because their audience is walking away?

00:35:11.066 --> 00:35:15.446
Yes. So they're turning against Trump in order to retain their audience,

00:35:15.586 --> 00:35:18.026
because the audience has had it. It's a good theory.

00:35:18.646 --> 00:35:20.126
Don Jeffries, the legendary. What's up, buddy?

00:35:20.966 --> 00:35:26.206
Oh, again, I wish I had the faith of Jackson T. Beer and some others, assuming it's real.

00:35:27.006 --> 00:35:31.306
But yeah, I don't. We certainly know that Epstein worked for the Rothschilds,

00:35:31.346 --> 00:35:32.626
so he had a direct connection to them.

00:35:32.786 --> 00:35:36.626
So what Trump's connection is, I'm not sure, but they all seem to have that connection.

00:35:36.786 --> 00:35:41.846
But as I said, I think that whatever's happening, I still am holding to the

00:35:41.846 --> 00:35:43.606
Trump and Stein Project. I think this is an act.

00:35:43.706 --> 00:35:48.226
As I said, I've got enough experience with older people in my family over the

00:35:48.226 --> 00:35:50.826
course of time that have had Alzheimer's or dementia.

00:35:51.566 --> 00:35:56.146
I've seen it up close and personal. And never is there anything remotely like

00:35:56.146 --> 00:35:59.706
that that I've seen in anybody that would explain Trump, where you suddenly

00:35:59.706 --> 00:36:03.366
become like a 10-year-old calling names and stuff.

00:36:03.506 --> 00:36:07.446
I mean, the next thing you play, he's got a super delayed Tourette's syndrome or something.

00:36:07.926 --> 00:36:12.786
It doesn't work like that. It works like it did with Biden, where you're kind of outing.

00:36:13.186 --> 00:36:18.026
You're forgetful, and they may let somebody like Biden go, because Biden was

00:36:18.026 --> 00:36:18.866
no threat to do anything.

00:36:19.838 --> 00:36:24.138
He was, the way he's acting is a threat to do really bad things,

00:36:24.298 --> 00:36:25.578
maybe. And maybe good things, who knows.

00:36:25.918 --> 00:36:30.918
But the people that control him, and he is controlled, they would not let a

00:36:30.918 --> 00:36:32.158
wild card like that exist.

00:36:32.318 --> 00:36:33.638
If they really thought he was

00:36:33.638 --> 00:36:36.518
losing his mind and he, hey, we don't know where he's going to sit next.

00:36:36.718 --> 00:36:39.658
We can't control him. We don't have the guy reading this stuff for him.

00:36:39.858 --> 00:36:42.698
Just want to make it look like that. They would never let that happen.

00:36:43.118 --> 00:36:47.258
He could hold a press conference and say, you know, I've been lying all my life,

00:36:47.358 --> 00:36:51.178
you know, I'm cheating everybody. 9-11 was an insane job, of course Oswald didn't

00:36:51.178 --> 00:36:53.618
kill JFK. I mean, Hogan was a hoax.

00:36:53.798 --> 00:36:57.518
You could say all kinds of crazy stuff. They don't know if he's really out of

00:36:57.518 --> 00:36:58.758
their control, he could do that.

00:36:59.078 --> 00:37:02.998
And conversely, he could drop a nuclear weapon somewhere if they didn't,

00:37:03.118 --> 00:37:06.038
and they wouldn't want him to do that unless they proved it.

00:37:06.358 --> 00:37:08.398
So I think this is part of the act.

00:37:09.418 --> 00:37:13.858
He's doing a great job acting like it, but it's mostly what he's saying.

00:37:14.638 --> 00:37:18.818
When he talks, he just says, he's just fighting all the time,

00:37:18.958 --> 00:37:22.178
attacking the folk and calling them names. That's kind of what he's always done.

00:37:22.378 --> 00:37:26.298
It's just he's shooting for bigger targets now. He didn't do that before.

00:37:27.098 --> 00:37:31.598
And again, that's not part of any mental illness I know, where you suddenly

00:37:31.598 --> 00:37:37.318
develop a super immaturity at age 79 and start acting like a nine-year-old that

00:37:37.318 --> 00:37:39.218
somebody took their toys away. That's not how it works.

00:37:39.578 --> 00:37:43.798
So somebody identify what this dementia is. What kind of, maybe they'll come

00:37:43.798 --> 00:37:47.358
up with some super Trump-style dementia, but nobody's ever had it before that I know.

00:37:47.758 --> 00:37:54.058
So I think this is an act, and I think, I think Billy Ray and millions of others

00:37:54.058 --> 00:37:57.798
are going to be pleased, because I think maybe the act is leading up to him

00:37:57.798 --> 00:38:00.198
being taken out in the White House in a straitjacket.

00:38:00.698 --> 00:38:05.238
And millions will hear, you know, and millions of MAGA people will be disillusioned,

00:38:05.298 --> 00:38:08.018
and maybe, you know, retire from politics, I don't know.

00:38:08.158 --> 00:38:13.838
Maybe that's the whole point of this. But I don't think there's anything organic about this at all.

00:38:15.318 --> 00:38:18.838
It's somebody there who has Trump's rhythm done. And everybody impersonates

00:38:18.838 --> 00:38:21.098
Trump, so everybody can do it. We can all write like Trump.

00:38:21.738 --> 00:38:24.858
On crops and, you know, ridiculous juvenile insults and stuff.

00:38:25.258 --> 00:38:29.098
So people, they're just shooting for bigger fry now. They bought after the Pope. That's pretty big.

00:38:29.598 --> 00:38:33.298
So we'll see what he does next. But I think that, you know, again,

00:38:33.398 --> 00:38:39.158
if he's lost his mind, what would be probably most on his mind if he was really

00:38:39.158 --> 00:38:41.558
losing it, the control Israel has over him?

00:38:41.838 --> 00:38:44.338
So then he might all impress talk and say, this is ridiculous.

00:38:44.498 --> 00:38:47.218
I'm not letting these guys control me. For too long, they've been doing that.

00:38:47.478 --> 00:38:49.698
He's never going to do that. He's doing whatever they say. So,

00:38:49.878 --> 00:38:51.938
you know, maybe I'm wrong.

00:38:52.018 --> 00:38:54.858
I said, maybe they'll come up with some kind of super— nobody ever heard of

00:38:54.858 --> 00:38:57.558
Alzheimer's disease until about 40, 50 years ago.

00:38:57.938 --> 00:39:02.158
So maybe they'll come up with a Trumpenstein disease like they did with Lou

00:39:02.158 --> 00:39:04.578
Gehrig. Nobody had that disease before Lou Gehrig.

00:39:04.918 --> 00:39:07.618
And now everybody has—you know, some people get a long time in the L.S.

00:39:07.958 --> 00:39:12.118
Maybe it'll be some new Trump strain, and people just in old age,

00:39:12.318 --> 00:39:16.298
they'll develop this thing where they get really immature, and they pick food fights.

00:39:16.298 --> 00:39:21.078
They start attacking everybody irrationally and acting like they're the girl.

00:39:21.198 --> 00:39:24.218
They're putting pictures that think they're Jesus Christ and claim their doctor,

00:39:24.338 --> 00:39:26.158
that kind of stuff. So, who knows?

00:39:26.618 --> 00:39:29.858
It's a really super egotistical type of dementia.

00:39:30.698 --> 00:39:36.098
My experience, that doesn't exist anywhere. It'd be Diet Coke disease, Don. It does.

00:39:37.378 --> 00:39:41.798
He said Diet Coke. Did he say he cured cancer or something? It got rid of grass or something?

00:39:42.078 --> 00:39:44.318
I think he was kidding, though. When people take it out of context,

00:39:44.458 --> 00:39:46.778
they're like, it's real. I think he was just trying to be funny,

00:39:47.498 --> 00:39:51.358
although he does drink a bunch of Diet Coke. But yeah, no, he...

00:39:51.986 --> 00:39:55.866
He's always been a buffoon. He's always been an idiot.

00:39:56.106 --> 00:40:00.026
He's always said exactly the same things he is saying now.

00:40:00.146 --> 00:40:04.986
And there's a clip circulating from the early 90s or maybe the 80s.

00:40:05.066 --> 00:40:06.806
I'm not sure. I saw it yesterday.

00:40:07.166 --> 00:40:14.626
Brissom sent it to me. And it is verbatim exactly the same crap he's saying right now.

00:40:14.986 --> 00:40:18.926
You know, so he's always been a freaking dumbass of epic proportions.

00:40:19.266 --> 00:40:22.266
And that's why I was like, the American public has got to catch up to this,

00:40:22.346 --> 00:40:24.646
right? And know that this isn't a thing.

00:40:25.006 --> 00:40:29.826
But on top of that, what's going around is frontal temporal dementia.

00:40:30.306 --> 00:40:35.246
And he fits a lot of the symptoms of that. And that doesn't happen overnight.

00:40:35.506 --> 00:40:39.426
He's been suffering for this shit for at least 10 years. It just continues to

00:40:39.426 --> 00:40:42.186
get worse and worse and worse.

00:40:42.406 --> 00:40:46.526
It was evident during the campaign, but people didn't give a shit.

00:40:46.526 --> 00:40:48.646
Alex Jones also didn't give a shit.

00:40:49.346 --> 00:40:52.706
Candace Owens didn't give a damn. Tucker Carlson didn't give a damn.

00:40:53.126 --> 00:40:57.626
Tucker Carlson sat there, and then I'm coming to Jordan, sat there and said,

00:40:57.826 --> 00:41:00.186
look, she didn't put his hand on the Bible.

00:41:00.706 --> 00:41:05.286
Motherfucker, you were there when it happened and you didn't have a freaking problem with it then.

00:41:06.201 --> 00:41:10.141
But now all of a sudden, now you want to say, oh, look, he didn't put his hand

00:41:10.141 --> 00:41:13.281
on the Bible and using that as something wrong. No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:41:13.981 --> 00:41:18.801
All of these people. I don't believe Trump is an actor, but if anybody's trying

00:41:18.801 --> 00:41:22.901
to put on a show, it's these freaking people because they want your money.

00:41:23.041 --> 00:41:24.281
They want your eyeballs.

00:41:24.481 --> 00:41:26.841
They want your ear holes. They want your attention.

00:41:27.461 --> 00:41:30.701
So they'll say whatever the hell it is they want to say in order to get that.

00:41:31.081 --> 00:41:31.821
Jordan, what's up, buddy?

00:41:33.441 --> 00:41:36.141
Well i i agree with what you're

00:41:36.141 --> 00:41:39.281
saying i mean i agree with what everyone's saying here but yeah

00:41:39.281 --> 00:41:43.021
with with for example the hand on the bible like i

00:41:43.021 --> 00:41:45.941
had i don't know if you guys know who jackson laymeyer is

00:41:45.941 --> 00:41:49.821
he's he created pastors for trump he's

00:41:49.821 --> 00:41:52.681
i guess one of his spiritual advisors a little lower

00:41:52.681 --> 00:41:55.441
down the line but yeah he's friends with the trumps he

00:41:55.441 --> 00:41:58.141
knows the trumps and all that and i had him on the show

00:41:58.141 --> 00:42:01.101
and i tried to ask him some questions to like you know kind of

00:42:01.101 --> 00:42:04.021
pin it to him and say you know is this is this how a christian

00:42:04.021 --> 00:42:06.921
should be acting and is is this right and

00:42:06.921 --> 00:42:09.701
he was kind of just saying well he's he's a

00:42:09.701 --> 00:42:14.481
tool of god and he's the sword that god uses to kill evil and yada yada yada

00:42:14.481 --> 00:42:19.621
but yeah i want now that the the the no hand on the bible is coming up i'd love

00:42:19.621 --> 00:42:23.881
to add that to the list of questions to ask him like you're okay with this But

00:42:23.881 --> 00:42:28.161
it seems that his people will just make, you know,

00:42:28.441 --> 00:42:31.161
any number of excuses for him.

00:42:32.181 --> 00:42:38.321
For example, with the Jesus thing, he says, you know, oh, I thought I was a doctor.

00:42:38.581 --> 00:42:42.201
And then when people hit him on that, I've heard people saying,

00:42:42.501 --> 00:42:46.121
well, if you look close enough, you know, he's got a smirk on his face and you

00:42:46.121 --> 00:42:48.241
know what he's saying and you can figure it out.

00:42:48.321 --> 00:42:52.081
You know, some of these people seem to have this like Trump decipher code that,

00:42:52.301 --> 00:42:54.041
you know, they don't want to share with anyone else.

00:42:54.181 --> 00:42:58.321
But as soon as someone calls Trump on something, they're at them saying,

00:42:58.461 --> 00:43:01.181
well, you don't know what the hell he's talking about. Right. So, yeah.

00:43:02.361 --> 00:43:05.961
But, you know, now that he's losing, you know, mega, he's, you know,

00:43:06.081 --> 00:43:07.981
I think Christians are getting upset with him.

00:43:08.561 --> 00:43:13.181
He's losing all these big pundits and influencers and personalities.

00:43:13.801 --> 00:43:18.221
I think that, I think the excuses are eventually going to stop.

00:43:18.221 --> 00:43:24.401
I mean, the people that are loyal to him are obviously either 95,

00:43:24.801 --> 00:43:31.161
between 95% and 105% loyal to him, right up until the point that they aren't.

00:43:31.241 --> 00:43:36.961
So it's hard to see when these people are going to turn, and they'll make numerous

00:43:36.961 --> 00:43:41.361
excuses until that point comes, and then they'll just go full-blown hypocrite, right?

00:43:42.261 --> 00:43:45.361
But yeah, it's just, again, I go back to cult.

00:43:45.361 --> 00:43:52.301
It's just this kind of cult atmosphere And just mixing politics With celebrities

00:43:52.301 --> 00:43:57.261
And big personalities And saying whatever the hell you want That I think has

00:43:57.261 --> 00:44:01.141
just created A bit of a swamp that I don't know what the future is going to

00:44:01.141 --> 00:44:03.621
hold And I also agree with.

00:44:04.824 --> 00:44:10.264
Donald, I mean, we could all be Donald Trump. We can all sign stuff with a Sharpie,

00:44:10.324 --> 00:44:12.884
right, instead of doing it with a pen like you're supposed to.

00:44:13.244 --> 00:44:17.384
We can, you know, he thinks that, you know, we could all go to McDonald's instead

00:44:17.384 --> 00:44:19.004
of, you know, having a presidential dinner.

00:44:19.344 --> 00:44:23.604
But I don't know. I think that he's been doing these tricks for years.

00:44:23.664 --> 00:44:25.504
I agree with what Billy says.

00:44:25.704 --> 00:44:30.184
He hasn't changed at all. He's still as stupid. He's still as shady.

00:44:30.504 --> 00:44:35.684
He's still as much as of a snake. But I think that celebrity effect and then

00:44:35.684 --> 00:44:40.924
that politician celebrity effect and then that presidential celebrity effect,

00:44:40.924 --> 00:44:43.524
it's just allowed him just to get away with so much.

00:44:43.604 --> 00:44:47.924
And now we're at this point where now people are just look like hypocrites when

00:44:47.924 --> 00:44:51.424
they do try to turn on them. And it's just a topsy-turvy kind of world.

00:44:52.104 --> 00:44:57.404
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00:44:57.404 --> 00:44:59.524
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00:45:04.604 --> 00:45:09.304
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00:45:12.024 --> 00:45:15.624
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00:45:15.804 --> 00:45:20.604
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00:45:20.684 --> 00:45:21.744
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00:45:22.004 --> 00:45:26.084
I left up this comment because I want to address it.

00:45:26.324 --> 00:45:29.364
It's my guy, Kenny Powers. How you doing? And Kenny's the dude,

00:45:29.624 --> 00:45:34.984
you know, and he doesn't always agree, but he's always around and he always listens.

00:45:35.004 --> 00:45:38.404
And I think he likes the show. He likes wrestling for sure.

00:45:38.784 --> 00:45:41.444
And WrestleMania is now. So we should talk about that, Kenny.

00:45:41.944 --> 00:45:47.024
But this was an interesting comment because a lot of people feel this way.

00:45:47.524 --> 00:45:54.064
And he's saying that no matter what's going on, right, how does it actually

00:45:54.064 --> 00:45:58.804
affect your life? For a lot of people, it doesn't It seems as if it doesn't

00:45:58.804 --> 00:46:00.684
affect their lives Well, I mean,

00:46:01.772 --> 00:46:05.472
If it doesn't affect your life, good for you.

00:46:05.992 --> 00:46:08.652
But that doesn't mean it doesn't affect everybody else's life.

00:46:09.132 --> 00:46:12.232
You know, and maybe you're not seeing how it affects your life.

00:46:12.332 --> 00:46:13.412
There is that dimension of it, too.

00:46:13.612 --> 00:46:16.592
But I want to go around the horn before I give my thoughts. Tone, what's up?

00:46:17.712 --> 00:46:21.392
Well, I'll make this as brief as I can. I remember when Don had G.

00:46:21.412 --> 00:46:25.132
Edward Griffin on his show and I was producing and I got to talk to G.

00:46:25.232 --> 00:46:28.992
Edward because I was on the show for just a little bit. And I asked him what

00:46:28.992 --> 00:46:33.592
the greatest danger that he could see in his long life of real service, like G.

00:46:33.672 --> 00:46:36.072
Edward Griffin, the author of The Creature from Jekyll Island,

00:46:36.452 --> 00:46:41.112
just kind of like Don, these are people that have dedicated their lives to the

00:46:41.112 --> 00:46:42.972
truth. They're not grifters.

00:46:43.352 --> 00:46:47.872
You know, they care about the work, their scholarship. They care about...

00:46:48.989 --> 00:46:55.049
Getting things right. G. Edward Griffin, I think he had some great wisdom to impart.

00:46:55.149 --> 00:47:00.269
He said, beware of controlled opposition, because it'll appear like the thing

00:47:00.269 --> 00:47:04.709
that is supposed to help you when actually it's there to destroy you.

00:47:05.249 --> 00:47:08.389
And he was referencing the Trump movement.

00:47:08.509 --> 00:47:13.329
Now, this was, gosh, Don, this was probably five years ago, something like that,

00:47:13.529 --> 00:47:15.629
four or five years ago that we did that.

00:47:17.029 --> 00:47:19.989
And we were already on that train long before.

00:47:20.149 --> 00:47:24.629
But I think is the question to how it affects your everyday life.

00:47:24.769 --> 00:47:30.029
If you're inside of a mind work, if you're inside of a psychological operation,

00:47:30.029 --> 00:47:31.889
there's a reason for that. So it's affecting you.

00:47:32.049 --> 00:47:37.229
And I do believe that the West, that the United States, part of this made-up

00:47:37.229 --> 00:47:41.409
political movement that had, by the way, had good goals.

00:47:41.529 --> 00:47:45.789
Most of it was good goals that I agreed with. But that's been so distorted and

00:47:45.789 --> 00:47:50.289
bastardized now that it will take generations to recover, if it ever does.

00:47:50.469 --> 00:47:51.929
And I think that was part of it.

00:47:52.389 --> 00:47:57.129
America was the last, and this still is the last best hope of Earth, I believe.

00:47:57.589 --> 00:48:02.489
The Bill of Rights is what really makes that possible. And the lineage of everything

00:48:02.489 --> 00:48:09.169
from Western civilization, from the Magna Carta on, to the Mayflower Compact, to the Constitution.

00:48:09.169 --> 00:48:13.229
I think these are all things that are positive for human liberty.

00:48:13.629 --> 00:48:18.329
Well, in order to take America off the stage, make it a one-party rule controlled

00:48:18.329 --> 00:48:25.549
by globalist entities who don't even care about nation states or humanity in general,

00:48:25.729 --> 00:48:29.249
I think the way that you would do that is to make sure that there's no cohesive,

00:48:29.969 --> 00:48:33.929
nationalistic, traditional, libertarian movement, and you just got to put a

00:48:33.929 --> 00:48:37.349
clown at the head and make sure that everything becomes a funhouse mirror version

00:48:37.349 --> 00:48:39.789
of itself. So that's how it affects you.

00:48:40.545 --> 00:48:44.985
All right. Don, what's up? Give us your thoughts. Well, I would amend that a

00:48:44.985 --> 00:48:47.365
little bit, the comment that doesn't really affect our lives.

00:48:48.145 --> 00:48:52.685
And again, I've been following politics since I was a little kid when RFK was running for president.

00:48:53.245 --> 00:48:58.705
And nothing has ever happened, and that's what the promise of Trump was,

00:48:59.245 --> 00:49:01.865
that has positively affected my life in politics.

00:49:02.425 --> 00:49:06.765
Negatively, yes. Then it gets a little bit better, but nothing to where,

00:49:07.125 --> 00:49:11.105
again, we're not going back to the 50s when every job paid a living wage and all that.

00:49:11.225 --> 00:49:15.985
And, you know, obviously for the last 40 years, at least 45 years,

00:49:16.465 --> 00:49:18.705
things have been going downhill in terms of financially.

00:49:18.925 --> 00:49:23.765
So the great hope of Trump, despite his personality, everybody knew who he was,

00:49:24.305 --> 00:49:28.225
this New York shyster or whatever the hell he is, but his rhetoric was great.

00:49:28.245 --> 00:49:30.225
And it promised to maybe make things better.

00:49:30.325 --> 00:49:34.945
Even last year, a $5,000 Doge check would have made things better for every family.

00:49:35.225 --> 00:49:38.325
Getting rid of the IRS would have made things a lot better. Getting rid of all

00:49:38.325 --> 00:49:42.725
taxes on people making $250,000 less than two, it would make them a lot better.

00:49:43.225 --> 00:49:45.365
That would have been something that, again, that's why I said,

00:49:45.505 --> 00:49:48.945
if he does any of this, that's never been done in my lifetime.

00:49:49.985 --> 00:49:53.305
No politician has said anything good. So I keep talking about Huey Long.

00:49:53.805 --> 00:49:56.805
He's the last one that did it to people in Louisiana, at least.

00:49:57.485 --> 00:50:01.665
No politician just came to do some good things, but it wasn't at that level.

00:50:02.485 --> 00:50:06.285
None of these guys do anything good. And that's what the ultimate disappointment

00:50:06.285 --> 00:50:10.785
of Trump is and why this is so disillusioning is because he,

00:50:11.065 --> 00:50:13.565
and so many people are still holding on to it.

00:50:13.645 --> 00:50:16.805
Jack Steve Baird thinks he's eliminating the national net and ending the Fed.

00:50:17.645 --> 00:50:20.165
Brother, I don't know what to smoke, but I'd like to be smoking it.

00:50:20.285 --> 00:50:24.105
Because, I mean, that'd be wonderful if he was doing that. That'd be his biggest cheerleader.

00:50:24.545 --> 00:50:28.405
You know, so he's talking about BlackRock. He's having BlackRock.

00:50:30.025 --> 00:50:32.605
You know, again, this...

00:50:33.307 --> 00:50:37.067
There were so many things. If he had done any of the things that he promised,

00:50:37.807 --> 00:50:42.447
bring the troops home from the river sea, that would not really impact our lives

00:50:42.447 --> 00:50:45.107
that much, but you might eventually get a peace dividend if you do something

00:50:45.107 --> 00:50:46.187
like this, which we've never had.

00:50:46.647 --> 00:50:48.987
And so there's so many things that could have been done. You know,

00:50:49.087 --> 00:50:51.927
building the infrastructure, that would have done something.

00:50:52.087 --> 00:50:56.827
The infrastructure hasn't been touched in my lifetime since I was too small to remember it.

00:50:57.347 --> 00:51:02.307
So you're talking about that at least would, you know, we'd have what they have in China. that.

00:51:02.707 --> 00:51:06.107
They might not have much in China, but they have a damn clean infrastructure

00:51:06.107 --> 00:51:11.507
and fast internet, high-speed transit that you don't have to worry about. They've got that.

00:51:12.047 --> 00:51:15.987
We don't have that. So we have nothing at this point.

00:51:16.107 --> 00:51:20.427
All we have is the promise of the founders, which none of our leaders need to do.

00:51:22.478 --> 00:51:26.658
And we're eventually going to lose free speech because you can see that's the way it's going.

00:51:27.358 --> 00:51:34.558
People don't want to. 37 states now have passed some kind of measure against

00:51:34.558 --> 00:51:36.618
anti-Semitism, which they can't even defend.

00:51:37.618 --> 00:51:41.758
37 states. That's frightening. And eventually it's 50.

00:51:42.298 --> 00:51:45.118
And so these are the things. And, of course, Trump was never going to touch

00:51:45.118 --> 00:51:48.118
into that because he's the most Israeli-controlled president we've ever seen.

00:51:48.758 --> 00:51:52.798
But it's just such a shame. If you look at Doge, and we discussed Doge so much,

00:51:53.018 --> 00:51:57.798
if Doge had been remotely what it was promised to be, if that was really an

00:51:57.798 --> 00:52:02.998
accounting, an inventory of government, that would have been a great thing.

00:52:03.198 --> 00:52:07.598
Because no matter what, the police commission found in the 1980s that 33% of

00:52:07.598 --> 00:52:10.338
all government spending was waste, fraud, and abuse. That was then.

00:52:10.718 --> 00:52:13.398
And of course, Reagan, nothing about it, because Reagan's the closest thing

00:52:13.398 --> 00:52:15.858
we've had to Trump in terms of being an absolute phony.

00:52:16.398 --> 00:52:21.398
He never did what he said, but millions adored him. Millions still adore Reagan.

00:52:22.118 --> 00:52:24.718
I talk about it. I have to try to say, well, if you read my books about his

00:52:24.718 --> 00:52:27.878
real record, but they still adore him.

00:52:28.238 --> 00:52:29.438
They can't wait. They named an

00:52:29.438 --> 00:52:33.178
airport after him over here, and they can't wait to name stuff after him.

00:52:33.638 --> 00:52:38.018
And eventually that will be Trump probably, unless he is taken from the White

00:52:38.018 --> 00:52:39.458
House in a strange age, which could happen.

00:52:39.978 --> 00:52:43.758
He'll have a bunch of stuff named after him too, and that'll be the ultimate winning.

00:52:44.278 --> 00:52:48.258
That's the only winning we get from Reagan is, hey, we named something after him. Cool.

00:52:48.918 --> 00:52:51.778
Oh, Reagan Airport, man, that really affected my life.

00:52:52.298 --> 00:52:54.978
And maybe did you have Donald Trump elementary schools and stuff?

00:52:55.098 --> 00:52:58.678
I don't know. That'll be his ultimate warning, but we haven't won at all.

00:52:58.898 --> 00:53:00.078
He's going to be sick of winning.

00:53:01.078 --> 00:53:03.778
Let's get Jeffrey Epstein elementary schools at that point if we're going to

00:53:03.778 --> 00:53:06.598
have freaking Donald Trump elementary schools. Oh, mother.

00:53:06.818 --> 00:53:09.938
At that point, right? If we're going to go that far, you know,

00:53:10.098 --> 00:53:13.738
putting pedophiles on the names of elementary schools.

00:53:14.601 --> 00:53:18.241
Disgusting. Disgusting stuff. That's not going to happen. I mean,

00:53:18.301 --> 00:53:20.701
I want to see the total destruction of this.

00:53:20.781 --> 00:53:23.241
I want to see that do you erase from the freaking history books.

00:53:23.501 --> 00:53:27.461
I know a lot of people here don't like James Carville, but I will tell you,

00:53:27.581 --> 00:53:31.861
when he said, I want more Trump derangement syndrome, he's like, I want more.

00:53:32.361 --> 00:53:36.921
He's like, God, give me more hate. I'm like, yes, that's the energy we need right there.

00:53:38.321 --> 00:53:41.201
What's up, Jordan? What's going on? oh man

00:53:41.201 --> 00:53:44.081
I'm loving this this is great I'd say how my life

00:53:44.081 --> 00:53:47.221
has changed from like learning about what's

00:53:47.221 --> 00:53:51.161
going on and the lies being told I mean when I first started learning about

00:53:51.161 --> 00:53:56.681
it I wanted to learn more and then when I learned more I realized okay the people

00:53:56.681 --> 00:54:01.661
around me don't seem to realize what I'm reading and realizing so it made me

00:54:01.661 --> 00:54:05.461
want to meet other people and then luckily podcasts came along.

00:54:06.221 --> 00:54:13.041
And that made me want to start this, my show to, to meet people like you, all three of you.

00:54:13.441 --> 00:54:16.821
And yeah, it's, it's kind of two prong.

00:54:17.001 --> 00:54:21.521
So there's the positivity where I just kind of spoke of, but there's also the,

00:54:21.701 --> 00:54:25.261
when you kind of see what's going on behind the veil and how it affects you,

00:54:25.401 --> 00:54:28.821
how it affects your, your, your income,

00:54:29.141 --> 00:54:32.061
your, your ability to live your life and do

00:54:32.061 --> 00:54:35.621
what you want to do and how you want to do it within reason you

00:54:35.621 --> 00:54:38.661
know for someone like me it gets it gets me upset because

00:54:38.661 --> 00:54:41.681
i i do i do deal with a little bit of anxiety and

00:54:41.681 --> 00:54:45.501
depression so sometimes i can get a little worked up like oh fuck this you know

00:54:45.501 --> 00:54:48.921
sorry i didn't mean to swear you're good brother have you heard me throughout

00:54:48.921 --> 00:54:53.401
the show you're fine oh maybe i just because swears just it swears me nothing

00:54:53.401 --> 00:55:00.541
to me so you know i get upset but then on the positive side it's great to meet people like,

00:55:01.061 --> 00:55:05.081
you guys, we can have better conversations, learn more.

00:55:05.321 --> 00:55:08.661
And I think that to me, that brings a lot of comfort.

00:55:09.893 --> 00:55:14.793
Tony was talking about, you know, these people that devote their lives to truth. I mean,

00:55:15.520 --> 00:55:21.100
I think that's a huge thing. And you can't see my supporter bookshelf right

00:55:21.100 --> 00:55:23.460
now, but I have all of Dawn's books.

00:55:23.680 --> 00:55:27.020
I have, whenever I have a guest on, if they have a book, I try to buy their book.

00:55:27.160 --> 00:55:31.840
You know, I try to get them to sign it if possible because there's just a bit of a connection there.

00:55:32.080 --> 00:55:37.000
And yeah, I really do. I would say almost worship, you know,

00:55:37.060 --> 00:55:43.480
the work that you guys do and other truth seekers do because it is so important for our history,

00:55:44.040 --> 00:55:46.900
our present and our future and it's getting

00:55:46.900 --> 00:55:49.760
a little little deep on you guys but aside from like

00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:52.820
you know prices and and you know when when

00:55:52.820 --> 00:55:57.440
trump took office and his in his tariffs and stuff affecting if i want to order

00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:00.920
something from the states you know it became a big hassle and all of a sudden

00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:04.100
i'm getting hit with all these charges but on the you know on the deeper level

00:56:04.100 --> 00:56:08.140
i think that's also somewhere where people get really hit and i think that's

00:56:08.140 --> 00:56:10.260
why people say it's a you know of spiritual warfare.

00:56:11.160 --> 00:56:13.960
There's a lot of that going on, Jordan, man. Listen, we're going to go around

00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:15.240
the horn and say goodbye to the people.

00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:20.000
I'll do shout-outs. You guys got to take off. Tony, tell the people where they can find you.

00:56:20.420 --> 00:56:24.740
Yeah, just go to tony.gold, my website, and you can find my podcast there.

00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:27.160
And I just released the David Icke interview.

00:56:27.420 --> 00:56:30.660
And you can also go to my YouTube channel, at Tony Arterburn, subscribe there.

00:56:31.560 --> 00:56:35.320
What else? What am I missing, Billy? I don't know. Tony Arterburn.

00:56:35.940 --> 00:56:40.340
Miracomplug.com. Give us a five-star review. You can say that I'm delusional,

00:56:40.380 --> 00:56:42.360
and I'll read it on air as long as it's five-star.

00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:46.020
You'll probably say I'm—not a lot of people say Tony's delusional.

00:56:47.700 --> 00:56:51.980
I'm getting more people saying that I was right, which is dope.

00:56:52.220 --> 00:56:55.160
I want more of that, just like I want more TDS.

00:56:55.600 --> 00:56:59.480
I want more people coming around saying, you know, Billy, you're not totally off.

00:56:59.720 --> 00:57:02.360
But if anybody's going to be called delusional here, let's be real.

00:57:02.460 --> 00:57:05.220
It's going to be me. I think you should be James Carville for Halloween.

00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:11.440
I want to see that. Bronx, New York, the raging Cajun. Hell freaking yeah. Let's do it. Let's go.

00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:14.020
Don Jeffries, the legendary. What's going on?

00:57:14.746 --> 00:57:17.026
Tell the people where they can find you. First of all, R.B. Hamm,

00:57:17.106 --> 00:57:19.606
my friend from Canada, he reminds me I'm going to be on this show tomorrow night,

00:57:19.726 --> 00:57:21.366
a special Sunday night edition, 8 p.m.

00:57:21.426 --> 00:57:26.106
On Beyond the Pale, the Rumble channel over there, his Rumble channel. So check that out.

00:57:26.366 --> 00:57:30.626
It's always fun being with the courageous trucker convoy guy, leader from Canada.

00:57:31.946 --> 00:57:34.526
I'm being shadow banned everywhere. They're ratcheting it up.

00:57:34.646 --> 00:57:37.806
Facebook is doing all kinds of crazy stuff where they let me post,

00:57:37.886 --> 00:57:38.906
but they won't let me reply.

00:57:39.366 --> 00:57:43.066
They keep throwing new things. I think they're messing with my numbers on my

00:57:43.066 --> 00:57:45.926
podcast. I really do. Because all this stuff is happening one time.

00:57:46.126 --> 00:57:49.926
I'm getting crazy spam stuff that I didn't get before.

00:57:50.006 --> 00:57:53.626
And, of course, my X account is lost. I don't know if I've ever been able to

00:57:53.626 --> 00:57:55.486
get it because Elon Musk, for

00:57:55.486 --> 00:57:58.986
instance, all the AI team is no help whatsoever, so I can't get it back.

00:57:59.866 --> 00:58:02.586
So Substack's the only place left until they come for me there.

00:58:03.266 --> 00:58:05.086
Please subscribe to me if you haven't already.

00:58:05.666 --> 00:58:09.086
Like and subscribe and restack my posts, donaldjeffries.substack.com.

00:58:09.186 --> 00:58:11.206
It's iProtest, just like my podcast.

00:58:11.366 --> 00:58:14.546
That's the best way you can help me. Of course, other than my 10 books are going

00:58:14.546 --> 00:58:17.366
to get there. So, again, I support that as well.

00:58:18.106 --> 00:58:20.746
If you guys got to run, Jordan, you can hang out for a couple of minutes.

00:58:20.866 --> 00:58:23.206
Well, I'm going to shout out the chat.

00:58:23.646 --> 00:58:27.286
But I know Tony and Bob have got to run. Thanks, guys. Thanks so much, everybody.

00:58:27.906 --> 00:58:31.886
Take care. We'll see you guys. Good to see you, Don. Be good. Take care. Thank you.

00:58:32.498 --> 00:58:36.638
Tony, you out? Yeah, I've got to run, brother. Go do your thing.

00:58:36.758 --> 00:58:40.358
I'll hit you up later. Thank you for everything. Go check out the David Icke interview.

00:58:40.878 --> 00:58:44.218
And there's more to come. Tony did a bunch of stuff, so he's going to drop more stuff.

00:58:44.418 --> 00:58:46.238
Thanks, guys. Appreciate you. I'm going to shout out the chat,

00:58:46.318 --> 00:58:49.618
and I'm getting out of here, too. And then I'll give Jordan a chance to tell

00:58:49.618 --> 00:58:51.678
the people where they can find him as well.

00:58:52.558 --> 00:58:56.078
Comment of the day right here by No Limits.

00:58:56.678 --> 00:58:59.678
Says, Billy, don't you remember when Elizabeth spoke out on her?

00:58:59.738 --> 00:59:02.138
I mean, yeah, that's what he said. Spoke out on her own?

00:59:02.738 --> 00:59:07.078
After Macho Man was being mean to her, this seems like what Melania did.

00:59:07.198 --> 00:59:09.538
And I think, I mean, I couldn't have put it any better myself.

00:59:10.198 --> 00:59:14.558
I remember what Macho Man Randy Savage used to do to the lovely, lovely Elizabeth.

00:59:14.918 --> 00:59:18.358
And, you know, she went out on her own for a second there. And that's what Melania

00:59:18.358 --> 00:59:19.478
did. Melania is like, you know what?

00:59:20.098 --> 00:59:23.298
This guy is clearly done.

00:59:23.758 --> 00:59:27.938
So I'm going to come out and try to exonerate myself. I think she did more harm

00:59:27.938 --> 00:59:29.038
to herself than anything else.

00:59:29.278 --> 00:59:34.138
Nobody likes her. She's the least liked first lady in the history of this country.

00:59:34.398 --> 00:59:41.218
And now Donald Trump is the guy with the lowest approval rating in the history of the presidency.

00:59:41.758 --> 00:59:45.938
You know, believe those numbers, if you will. I do. I personally believe them,

00:59:45.978 --> 00:59:48.018
of course, because, you know, I'm not a fan.

00:59:48.238 --> 00:59:51.318
And I see more and more people turning like, you know, when Alex Jones is turning

00:59:51.318 --> 00:59:52.538
against you, there's a problem.

00:59:53.018 --> 00:59:57.418
So so there there is that. But but comment of of the day there.

00:59:57.558 --> 01:00:03.138
No limits. How are you? and Kenny Powers also says that my background paint

01:00:03.138 --> 01:00:04.878
sucks I know it does this is my

01:00:05.218 --> 01:00:10.278
wife did this years ago and I you know you just gotta say okay sometimes even

01:00:10.278 --> 01:00:13.618
if it's awful you know I'm just like fine whatever the rest of the house doesn't

01:00:13.618 --> 01:00:17.038
look like this I promise you but this yeah this is bad eventually I'll.

01:00:17.852 --> 01:00:20.472
I'll do something and paint it. But that's the second comment.

01:00:20.612 --> 01:00:23.012
What's up, my guy? Kenny Powers. Who else is here?

01:00:23.552 --> 01:00:26.792
Let me shout you guys out. James in the chat. What's up, buddy?

01:00:26.852 --> 01:00:28.192
How you doing? What's going on?

01:00:28.632 --> 01:00:31.472
Jackson T. Barrett. I hope you are trolling us.

01:00:31.572 --> 01:00:34.952
I mean, me telling you that you're trolling us is giving you the benefit of

01:00:34.952 --> 01:00:38.092
the doubt because if you actually believe these things, that there's something wrong.

01:00:38.492 --> 01:00:41.552
And I don't believe there's something wrong because there's so far out.

01:00:41.672 --> 01:00:43.252
I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, Jackson.

01:00:43.732 --> 01:00:48.072
So if you're trolling us, genius. Just like Twisty.

01:00:48.592 --> 01:00:51.032
I'm starting to believe that he believes some of this stuff sometimes.

01:00:51.292 --> 01:00:56.072
But Twisted loves to troll. What's up, Twisted? How are you in the chat? RB Ham is in the chat.

01:00:56.452 --> 01:00:59.732
And he wants you guys to go check him out with Don Sunday night.

01:00:59.972 --> 01:01:02.412
Special episode. White Wolf. What's going on, White Wolf?

01:01:02.872 --> 01:01:06.272
Who else do we have here? Damn it, who is it? John Lawler. What's going on,

01:01:06.352 --> 01:01:07.772
John? How you doing? I hope you're still listening.

01:01:09.312 --> 01:01:12.352
NMQA. Is that Dustin? That's Dustin. I'm not sure.

01:01:12.812 --> 01:01:15.392
If it is Dustin, what's up, buddy? How are you? If it's not,

01:01:15.472 --> 01:01:20.712
Dustin, N-M-Q-H-M, I know I've seen you before.

01:01:21.292 --> 01:01:24.612
What's up? How are you? And I'm going over to rumble and saying what's up to the people.

01:01:24.732 --> 01:01:27.692
Peter Seacosh, what's going on? My guy always doing incredible stuff and always

01:01:27.692 --> 01:01:29.892
throwing stuff at me. Whenever he sees it, I appreciate it.

01:01:30.152 --> 01:01:35.172
And he is in the chat. B.J. Chang, Trump is still better than Kamala.

01:01:35.292 --> 01:01:37.792
You got to be kidding me, brother, if you still think that.

01:01:38.552 --> 01:01:41.572
Is Kamala Harris in the Epstein files? Yes.

01:01:42.464 --> 01:01:48.324
Is she in the Epstein files? And, and I'm going to use a little bit of Trump rationale here, right?

01:01:48.664 --> 01:01:53.864
Because what they were saying about Joe Biden is if stuff was so bad with Donald

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Trump, Joe Biden would have weaponized it and used it, right? And he didn't.

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But they were using that as cover until all of this stuff came out and you saw

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how bad it is. And there's still another 3 million pages that haven't been released.

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And they've already come out and said that they're not going to release them. Let's see.

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But if they had something, and if they do, please release it.

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I'd love to see Kamala Harris if she was in the Epstein files in any way.

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I'd love to see the context of it. I'd love to see what was going on.

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But to say that it's still better than Kamala Harris is highly delusional thinking.

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I know how much you guys hate the left.

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And there are legitimate reasons to hate the left. But let's be real here, okay?

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He's destroyed America on the world stage.

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We've been closer to World War III than we ever have been before.

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And if you say that Kamala Harris or Joe Biden would have done this,

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would have put us in Iran, we had four years of what they did.

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OK, they continue to fund Israel like every administration does.

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And that's bad. That's not good.

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But would they have gotten us into war with Iran? They had four years. They didn't do it.

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Would they have gone over to Venezuela? They had four years. They didn't do it.

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So the evidence just doesn't back this up.

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Trump is the worst thing that could have ever happened to this country.

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He's a pedophile Allegedly Looks like You know He's convicted A sexual abuser.

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Right? Adjudicated sexual abuser. He is a grifter. He is a liar.

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He hasn't paid contract. He's done the worst things possible.

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And people still think for some reason that Trump would have been better than

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Kamala Harris. I highly disagree.

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And if you still, I mean, more and more people have realized that at this point.

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They're like, you know what?

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There's so many maggots that have come out that are like, they're like, I was stupid to do this.

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And I understand how you feel because I feel the same way about my affiliation

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not affiliation but my my fandom of alex jones for for how long i was like how

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stupid was i to buy into this so i get it you know i i understand guys.

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Don't get me started we'll be here for another two hours bro,

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yeah and i'm gonna give you some time before we get out of here i just want

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to finish uh shouting out.

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Let me see. It's a lot of repeat offenders

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on these chats here on X and on YouTube. What's up to all of you?

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We're 104 strong across platforms, not including Rumble.

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We are at 48 on Rumble right now. Nature Boy is in the chat.

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What's up, Nature Boy? How you doing?

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Good to see you. Harps is in the chat. What's going on? Misfit is in the chat. What's going on?

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Karen Peterson. I've never seen Karen Peterson before. What is good? How are you?

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Jason Barker, what's going on, my dude? Hope you're doing well.

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Johnny, little Johnny boy. What's up, little Johnny? What are you doing?

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Bart, Bart Duper. What's going on? He's in the chat.

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What's going on? Hope you're doing well. Let me see what else is up here.

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I'm going to keep going. And more repeat offenders.

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Do not obey. How are you? What is going on? Thank you for tuning in.

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Oxy Rotten, what's going on? Thank you for tuning in. Thank you for listening.

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Everybody over on the podcast side of things, thank you for leaving your reviews.

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Thank you for tuning in week after week after week.

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Jordan, tell these people where they can find you, sir.

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Yeah man well first i just want to say i really enjoyed myself

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and thank you so much for having me hopefully we can do it

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again for those who want to check out my podcast that

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is the divulgence podcast you can get us on youtube rumble and then audio wise

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you can get a spotify apple wherever you get your podcasts you can also hit

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us up at divulgence pod on x or send us a gmail yeah if you have any recommendations,

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tips, whatever you want to share.

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So yeah, I hope we can do this again. And I would love to have you back on the show very soon, Billy.

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No, absolutely, brother. Thank you for coming on. Yeah, you're welcome whenever you want.

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Guard Goldsmith is also in the chat. What is going on? Make sure you tune into Guard.

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Guard is doing exceptional work

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over there you know i think guard is honest as

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honest as can be even to you

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know the detriment of some of the not detriment but but it doesn't some of the

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people that listen may not resonate with the message sometimes that's how freaking

01:06:16.801 --> 01:06:21.761
honest guard is about this but he's spot fucking on on a lot of things i i love

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what guard is doing so tune into guard goldsmith and guard let's talk about

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getting you back on gorilla when i get when i get cracking again you know and uh and um.

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We can do that. What was it? There was a couple of other things I want to address.

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WrestleMania is today. Hold on for a second.

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What do you think about Jake Paul being in WrestleMania?

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What are your thoughts on that? I mean, Jake Paul is a very talented,

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talented professional wrestler.

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He's a natural. He's a natural.

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He cuts incredible promos. He has incredible character work.

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And his in-ring ability is next level, bro. He's better than 95% of the roster,

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and he's only been doing it for a fraction of a while.

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He is fantastic. That being said, I hate him as a person.

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So I really don't. Okay, all right, all right, cool.

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I'm not a fan of him per se.

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At least he does something well. I can't deny his ability, you understand? That would be me hating.

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People accuse me. Good for you. Good for you. Good for you.

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That's good. I'm not hating on the guy. i just i don't like him but he's a next

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level professional wrestler so,

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That part about, he's just amazing. So that's good. I'm going to be watching some of it.

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BRV, I may not agree with all you say, but I like you. Mr.

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NMQ8, whatever the hell that is, says, I'm glad you like me, buddy.

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Eventually, you will agree with everything I have to say. Okay,

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that's the prophecy here.

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And I'll be long forgotten at that point, but everybody will agree with everything

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I have to say. I'm putting it out there. I'm putting it out in the ether.

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It's probably not going to happen. But I'm putting it out there anyway, you know.

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Anybody that I missed in the chat, my apologies. I love you guys.

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Thank you for being here. Oh, and Kenny, yeah, man, Obafemi should win.

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If it's Obafemi versus Brock Lesnar today, is it today or tomorrow?

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I don't know which one, but it's a free match.

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Anybody that's interested, Obafemi should win.

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I hope he does. Anyway, that should be the way to go. Jordan,

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we're going to get on your pod and we'll do that.

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Jordan had invited me on and, you know, me, Mr. Scatterbrains, I forgot.

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So we're going to do that, you know, but it was great having you on.

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It was great talking to you about things. Very excited to see all of this fall apart. I'm very happy.

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I mean, I don't think anybody would doubt how happy I am to see this fall apart.

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And I'm very happy that people are realizing what this is.

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I am skeptical about the reasons that all these pundits have turned at the same time.

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I don't know why they've done this. And I know they're all liars.

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I know they're hypocrites.

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Look, Tucker Carlson is a liar and a hypocrite nine times out of ten.

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You know, Alex Jones is just a piece of crap on the next level.

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And anybody that's familiar with David Knight, you know the level of piece of crap that Alex Jones is.

01:09:15.969 --> 01:09:20.809
So I'm suspicious, but I'm happy to see it all freaking fall apart.

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So I want to see more of it, more ridiculousness on the part of Donald Trump.

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Let's impeach and remove our 25th Amendment.

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I don't care how you get him out of there. Let's get him the hell out of there

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ASAP. And then let's do away with this stupid nonsense.

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And hopefully, we'll never be back to what we were. The genie's out of the bottle.

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America will never be what it used to be, ever.

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We were on our way down anyway, and now it's like, it's just,

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it's never going to be that.

01:09:48.289 --> 01:09:53.769
Donald Trump has changed this country to a level beyond repair.

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We can try, we'll repair some things, but ultimately, we're never going to be,

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it's the decline, the sun is setting on the American empire.

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It is what it is, but let's just get rid of it. I don't want to have anything

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to do with it. Victor Orban is gone, ladies and gentlemen.

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There is hope, right? There's hope because that dude was the dictator,

01:10:13.772 --> 01:10:17.072
the blueprint for what Donald Trump was doing here.

01:10:17.332 --> 01:10:20.172
And the people over there said, enough, fuck out of here.

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To the point that he acknowledged that he lost, which was surprising to me.

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Same thing will happen here. Thoughts on that, Jordan? And we're getting out of here.

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No, man, I hear you. I, I think that I try to look on the good side of things.

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So I think that, I think that the people in your country have heart and soul

01:10:38.872 --> 01:10:43.012
like you, man, I know you have heart, you have soul. I can hear it in your voice.

01:10:43.232 --> 01:10:46.132
I can hear it when we, when we talk, I know you're passionate.

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So I think that the good people will once awaken, once enough people are awakened,

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I think things will, the tide will turn in the proper direction.

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And I think we can get rid of, you know, this retribution and punishment and

01:11:00.212 --> 01:11:04.412
just, okay, what do we need to do for the people? Right.

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And let's work towards a better future. So I think that that's the penny I'll be putting in my hat.

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Fantastic, brother. Thank you for that, for those closing words.

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That was dope, man. And it's some optimism there.

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Sometimes we need that, you know, especially me.

01:11:23.278 --> 01:11:26.038
Even though I'm optimistic. I'm here for you, brother. What's up,

01:11:26.078 --> 01:11:27.938
buddy? I'm here for you, brother. Don't worry.

01:11:29.378 --> 01:11:32.938
Thank you, bro. Appreciate it. Ryan in the chat. Also, I didn't say what's up

01:11:32.938 --> 01:11:33.818
to you. At least I don't think so.

01:11:33.938 --> 01:11:37.138
If I did, I forgot. So let me say what's up to Ryan over at Rumble.

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I see. All right. We're getting out of here.

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Everybody have a good weekend. Tune in to MAGA WrestleMania, you know, if you want.

01:11:44.878 --> 01:11:50.138
I'm not, I draw the line at UFC. My son still likes the WWE. So I watch that with him.

01:11:50.758 --> 01:11:54.878
Otherwise, I probably wouldn't watch anymore either. But tune in.

01:11:55.218 --> 01:11:58.918
It might be a fun show. Plus, I'm going to have fun talking to Kenny about it

01:11:58.918 --> 01:12:00.118
at some point. So that's dope.

01:12:00.598 --> 01:12:04.318
You and me, we need to catch up. So stay in touch. We'll figure something out, Jay.

01:12:04.918 --> 01:12:08.158
And everybody here, God bless you. Thank you.

01:12:08.638 --> 01:12:11.478
Maybe we'll get Gorilla Underground this weekend. If you show up,

01:12:11.558 --> 01:12:14.578
great. If you don't, catch it later, you know, and let's see what develops.

01:12:14.718 --> 01:12:15.858
All right, let's get up out of here.

01:12:16.158 --> 01:12:18.818
Burn the place down. Well, actually, it's already burning.

01:12:19.158 --> 01:12:23.538
It's already burning. So you can, like, add coal to it or you can just walk

01:12:23.538 --> 01:12:26.638
away and see it burn, like, dramatically, like we do in Hollywood.

01:12:26.858 --> 01:12:29.898
You know, when there's the dramatic music and the person is walking away,

01:12:30.098 --> 01:12:31.338
exactly, and everything is

01:12:31.338 --> 01:12:34.298
going up in flames behind them. But you're good because you're a badass.

01:12:34.598 --> 01:12:39.578
That's what we're doing. We're walking away from this nonsense right here on

01:12:39.578 --> 01:12:41.978
America Unplugged. God bless you.

01:12:42.218 --> 01:12:44.438
Be good. Hang out, Jordan. Bye-bye.

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Boom. We're still on the air.